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Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw - Multiple links in this rentry are dead or out of date, save us Anon!
New child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF
Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX
Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Elin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wiki
Elin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_Guides
Elin Modding resources/code: https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin.Docs
https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin-Decompiled
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>>50802242
Oh so it's that, well, I guess there could be some enemies with light sabers deep into the void and other scaled nefia, but it's probably extremely rare. You can also always just carry many guns.
Also, does the laser gun in Elin work like in Elona?
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Asking again in a new bread. Can I get rid of the dog from the Puppy Cave?
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Is this true?
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How the hell do I enter mountain maps to mine sulfur and stone!?
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oh wait nevermind
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>>50802259
That doesn't feel right. Any option to make him suffer other than the gallows? A torture device of sort maybe?
>>50802263
I killed him, only for the damn mutt to revive some time later.
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Why is my +11 honeycomb wine so cheap? Blueberries are more profitable for me
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>>50802170
>my stupid question made it in
I WAS NEW OKAY!?
I know better now..I did learn about save-scumming the other day and my god is it SATISFYING
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When placing decorations I can adjust the height with the mouse wheel but how do you shift things left or right? If the dev was a UO player I have to assume this is possible.
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>they added a book that tells you how fucking worthless Luck is
tyotal Noa dyestructinyon
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>>50803349
Thanks chief
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>>50803513
>Have 15 fertility spare
>expand land
>now have -18 fert
>clear plants
>have +15 fertility exactly the same as before the expansion
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>>50803527
>is your land expanded a lot?
I don't know.
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I like to image my banker is so jewish he chooses to the sleep in the vault.
hehe
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>>50804357
>can they be sheared
yes
>>50804357
>white fibers
mass monsters give dragon scale fibers which are green
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>>50805023
I savescum on Chaos Shape and Slime
I think their mechanics are kind of crappy without it, or an equivalent mod
Fertilized eggs is a good one, should make it so blessed whips always drop them
I don't think much else really warrants it
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>>50805019
Fairy has it pretty rough for a long time. Honestly unless you're going solo to take advantage of the speed I don't think it's really worth it. You can always throw or use magic without any downside and you have a shit ton of mana starting out, but unless you're an executioner it doesn't take much at all to take you out.
I don't think the gear restriction is actually that much of a problem for armor in the end, but for weapons it's pretty rough
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How do I stop livestock from starving? There's a shared container full of pasture right next to the ranch sign. This game gives me the shits sometimes.
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>>50806387
>ratkin
OH SHIT
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>>50806387
>rats
FUCK OFF
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>>50806387
>I don't have to play Rimworld anymore to satiate my ratkin needs
That's crazy news.
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>>50806387
RATS RATS WE'RE THE RATS
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>>50806387
>MORE races
???
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>>50806483
You can already play as a Snail.
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>>50806573
They're stupidly slow and get in the way of other allies, status effect funnels can do a bit of work like mind funnels putting hordes of enemies to sleep in war quests but they're still so slow.
I do like miasmas, their chance to inflict status effects seems super boosted for how little damage they do.
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>>50806387
>ratkin
RATFUCKERS UNITE!!!!!!!!
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please add things that affect the whole game and not just one potential playthrough a given player might not even have (races)
gods, worship mechanics, world mechanics like faction conflict, dungeon stuff, quests and locations and things to do in them, request types, basebuilding improvements, new spells, more feats and special actions, improvements to social systems, meaningful roleplay options, avenues to moolah besides wine farming. anything please
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>>50806755
>please add things that affect the whole game
I got you
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>alien abduction events
>main character gets spirited away to be a seedbed for aliens
>have to play as one of your allies and save yourself by going to a squishy footsteps alien nefia
>the longer you play as your ally the more time you have to make them stronger, learn spells and feats, etc
>but also the longer your main character is losing stats and making more and more aliens spawn in more places
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>>50806997
That used to be standard in western fantasy too, see Greyhawk actually being colonized by people when their scifi spaceship crashed, and magic and the various races and monsters being the product of the busted FTL drive leaking radiation everywhere.
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>>50806953
Oh sure the cyberdome and laser rifles are okay, but a xenomorph isn't?
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>>50807122
Aliens feels weirder because in fantasy games with gods I always assume that the "earth" is a flat plane and the gods live on different planes, its weird that theres an universe with planets and stuff AND gods too
Elin's universe sounds similar to dragon ball's now
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How do status immunities work exactly?
I thought a single piece of gear was enough for full immunity, but now I'm seeing the immunity has a point system. Is it not an actual true immunity?
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>>50806387
where do I sign up for a giant girlfriend who's 4x my size?
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>>50807245
You don't need to assume, all the retards up there just assumed they are playable.
It's npc only to for the traveling merchant world map encounter.
>>50807183
It's a binary. It's just that way because element data is standardized. There's no need to read too much into it.
>>50807126
My brother in Kumiromi, one of the gods IS an ayylmao.
>>50806755
Ok, idea guy.
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tell me there's a better way to get bamboo seeds than axing bamboo
you can't sickle it because it's a tree but the seeds are so rare and I need so much
my mind is melting into wopboppaloobopawopbamboo cruising through every tile and looking for shoots to not get seeds from
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>>50807215
I think Noa should add Bard-like combat. Some enemies can already use songs to debuff you. Just give them to the player. And with the Mermaid, you make her a very good Bard-fighter with feats enhancing songs
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>>50806387
I think I'm in love...
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>not being down bad for b*ssy in 2026
>fully willing to fuck rats and get a ton of Weakness stacks instead
More for me, I guess.
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is vorpal chan not enough for you?
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>>50807302
>modder "upgrades" the original sprite by adding clothes and taking out distinct features like the sharp fangs
Is this the cut content they're always talking about when comparing the RE2 Remake to the original RE2?
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Aaaaaa I want to be a bladesinging nefu, I tried adding the song of valor with console commands since scaling was added to it, but it scales way too fast currently giving you tons of stats. Might be more balanced in the endgame when you have stupid high stats from godfood though.
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>have vampire ally
>also have catsister ally (no fucking life)
>specifically tell vampire to succ ME and not the kot because I am a big strong juere warrior and also it's why I keep her around
>never sucks my blood and regularly just eats my poor kot the second I'm not looking
it's funny BUT
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>>50807410
churyu blood is the worst, not filling at all and murphy's law means a cat's always going to be nearby
do not keep any cattle with it, better to get a little thief guild reputation by selling them into slavery instead
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>>50806387
>ratkins
I’m having Rimworld deja vu…
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>read a book
>accidentally summons a fucking monster
What, do I read every single books loudly?
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>>50808464
Did you know that in the Lovecraft mythos, Y'golonac can be summoned just by reading his name in the revelations of glaaki?
>>50808528
You'd still need charisma higher than its highest stat, at which point you could have just bought one off an animal tamer.
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>eyth's asmr is just static and radio silence
I don't know what I expected
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How do I procure more cans of protein? Just delve more nefia?
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>>50808417
yeah I do mod my elin
I think the promotions mod is cool as hell
I use elonaplus additions because I liked elonaplus's increased horny
I use bettersuccubus even though I don't play one because I think it's hot to run into demonesses from e+ with supercharged mischief
I use autoact because ain't no way in fuck I'm sitting there manually mining these nefia floors
I use the doom mod because I'd rather blast demons for half an hour and forget about basketball entirely
elin is already just a mod of elona
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>>50809536
Gimme a break, I just found out I can hang myself on the gallows and my little girl companion almost beat me to death. What the fuck is that even for? Didn't even know there's a casino, gonna look it up.
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Cool.
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>>50809576
>I just found out I can hang myself on the gallows and my little girl companion almost beat me to death. What the fuck is that even for?
You can train defensive skills like Evasion or Armor and train the offensive ones for your companions. You can do the same with your little girl, hang her and use her as a training dummy (and she increases her defensive skills).
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elona+ oddities, my mistake
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she's from this mod
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>>50809597
>anon must be trolling me, that sounds like a bullshit exploit
>hangs myself again
Well fuck me, I owe you an apology.
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>>50809876
I'm not sure if it works for your companions tho, they might just die if you beat them up on the gallows.
Also doing that yourself consumes stamina, if you get to 0 they stop and you can jump down safely without dying. Unless they put DoTs on you maybe?
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>>50809882
It's working fine, my little girl's evasion increased and she's still alive. I swear that fucking nun goes apeshit on us.
>picrel
I think she discovered her masochistic side? Is this an actual mechanic or just a flavor?
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the game sucks! it stinks it smells it's bad!
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We'll be able to travel the world right?
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is the CWL tutorial just out of date, or what? do I have to move my package folder somewhere else? even just using the example .xlsx with the alraune it doesn't show up if it's in my mod folder, and nothing else is showing up either
I just don't understand what could possibly be fucked up unless it has to go somewhere besides /elin/package/mod_modname/langmod/EN
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I always get Magic Manners 2 as one of my first feats for this reason alone
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>>50812416
everything is capitalized just as it is in the tutorial. filenames, folder paths, the works. I've thrown the unedited example sheet in and it still doesn't pick it up. the Local mod is enabled, the only thing I never did was click publish under the assumption it isn't necessary unless you're publishing it to the steam workshop
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What mod is causing the universe to collapse around me like this? it can happen on any tile on any map seemingly at random. but the ground will come back if I step onto a different tile but i often cant go into the missing space before it disappears again
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>the only thing I never did was click publish under the assumption it isn't necessary unless you're publishing it to the steam workshop
Personal local mods work fine, I've made a few myself.
Do you have the correct version of CWL? There's one for Nightly and one for Stable.
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>>50814232
I actually had an extra period in the package.xml filename (package..xml) instead of literally anything important and it was causing the entire thing to not be read. I was scouring everything else for hours before noticing it
everything else works as intended but now I'm having problems getting charatalk to work
some examples and working mods have a charatalk string id/idText entry that's unique to the field (example TinyMita), others just reuse the character's id (example Azalea)
in chara, some examples have it under idText (TinyMita), and some have it as the last entry of the bio string (basegame Kiria), which still links into CharaTalk and definitely works as well
but no combination has gotten this character to do any chatter
>nyoro~n captcha
>incorrect answer
unbelievable
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>>50814632
there's definitely cloud saves but valve's stuff can get finicky if you're on a completely different piece of hardware. I've had saves get overwritten by fresh ones after a supposed "sync"
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I am suddenly reminded that most old Elona fanfic (before Elin day) on Syosetu have the same tax joke, but they concluded that if Palmia tried anything funny like raising the tax, everyone would nuke the city to oblivion at the same time
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>I actually had an extra period in the package.xml filename (package..xml) instead of literally anything important and it was causing the entire thing to not be read. I was scouring everything else for hours before noticing it
I think you just gave every programmer here flashbacks.
Anyway, I'd try to give advice, but if you're already reverse-engineering the example mod in the "Dialog & Drama" section of CWL's manual you're probably well on your way to solving the problem yourself. That, and I barely know anything about CWL. (Although I'd definitely use it if I wanted to write a custom NPC with dialogue. Elin's "drama" system is nightmarish to try to figure out from studying the decompilation.)
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>>50814832my sheet was CharaTalk instead of CharaText
about had a fuckin meltdown when I saw it
anyway does anybody happen to know what bartenders do as an idle routine? I've never been around them long enough to notice anything but they have an actIdle string unique to them
do they get NPCs around them drunk or something?
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There's no special behavior declared in AI_Idle, so it uses the default behavior, which is to check the "Game" sheet of the "Lang" spreadsheet for "idle_$NAME" and print that text. (idle_bartender is the onomatopoeia "*shake*".)
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>>50815451
I was kind of surprised by ketchup sucking so much ass. I always just assumed you could process tomatoes to it somehow and it was just the drop version that sucked, but I just never had any reason to look closer.
Not that it really matters since who the fuck plays a vampire to never feed on people like one
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I have a diamond stone. if I want to duplicate it at kettle, what's the order of operations? I've never messed with this mechanic but having diamond tools sounds great
am I correct in that I want to throw it in the stonecutter and have him duplicate the cut stone, and then hammer the cut stones 2 at a time to make full stones I can use for tool crafting?
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also not pictured one more traveling merchant type and that you can rob them now
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Equipment at inflated prices. The equipment vendor is not bad since his shop level scales to fame like in Elona.
There's also a much rarer gold bar vendor that sells a bunch of decorations, material hammers, Garok's hammer, jure water, that kind of rare and funky stuff. Really expensive, guy wanted 1k gold bars for jure water.
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Finally found my first hormone drug
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I'm retarded I bought the younger cat sister and gave her all my speed items hoping she'd zoom around killing multiple monsters before I can take 2 steps but she's kinda underwhelming. Does she get good with the right weapons and training?
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>want to make an incubator
>need 3 IC chips
>craft them
>they all have different levels of Tarnished because I have completely neglected blacksmithing because you can't do anything cool with it anyway
>so they can't be used as a stack of 3 for the recipe
holy FUCK
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>>50817129
If I make a new character it's going to be using that proposed childbirth NG+ system with a save right before the kid pops out so that I can name each new attempt at something after one of the 500+ kids Gold Ship has sired.
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>>50817129
Noa mentioned in patch notes that ng+ might just be like dwarf fortress where you just make a new character in the existing world with all your stuff still built didn't he?
I've done too much sword sage/talisman management on the characters I've made so far, my heir needs to be a dumb unga bunga golem priest that will autobattle the gods, big shield for ranged/melee attacks and dim immunity means I can never be stopped from telling mages to shut the fuck up
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what's your problem animal
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>>50817268
I'm farming a bunch of corns and there's no improvement between the seeds.
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>>50817276
Oh that. I was just talking about there being anything visible as a +1 seed. No idea on the actual calculations for those, but there's definitely also some numbers that can go up within still being +2 or whatever
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>hammer alchemy
What the fuck?
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>>50817564
Because getting to those things and managing them along with whatever other dream genes you have in mind as well as all the save scumming that would be involved would not actually be fun to play. I can definitely see the appeal of infinite spell arrows though
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>>50817209
yeah, saw a lot of different merchants in a forest, and a shrine of strife spawned a hostile one
ambushes have a lot more encounters than usual too
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I play juere to eat a lot and hit things with a sword
I would NEVER take a second wife
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>>50817754
I should be able to have infinite fox wives desu, the foxes disappeared in elona due to cataclysmic mofu overpopulation
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>>50817302
It's a feature!
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>>50817936
i see, that's pretty reassuring. i uninstalled one too but it was just a mod that added offhand claws. i'd try to keep it, but i vaguely remember reading that it had issues.and it's nice to know that my dogshit throwing weapon mod will probably be alright and not cause problems if i leave it alone.
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>>50818268
Nyoo... I don't want to use mods if possible.
>>50818278
What do I do with one of those? Grabbed one from Little Garden and can't eat it like what I read.
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It was the option on my own character sheet that i was remembering. The cat younger sister needs stronger behavior modification so she runs away from enemies, is that possible? I've been training her long enough to have 25 weightlifting but she hasn't gained a single point of health. I don't get what you're supposed to do with her she drops dead if anything looks angrily in her direction.
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>>50818803
Adjust her preferred range with brain cells.
Younger cat sister has 25 life, which means she has 1/4 "average" health. Whether her 280 base speed and 60 perfect evasion is worth it is up to you to decide.
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>>50819664
Awfully Merchophobic of you anon....you better not be one of those types of "people" who also pretends to pay taxes with 1 oren bills....
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>>50819720
I'd do it less but my tax orens only go towards flooding the streets of yowyn with eulderna, orcs, and gnomes that want to subjugate or kill me, and then they tell me I'm supposed to be happy about it
I would gladly use the tax bills they sent me if the orens were going towards improving anything about my quality of life but the system has betrayed me
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>towns
yes
>races, classes
hmm nyo we have enough. race/class is "modders can do it" content
>precious weapons
PLEASE
and where the FUCK is the precious armor
add heavier armor bases at low levels too. getting up to heavy is fucking impossible
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>>50806953
Its literally Ultima's setting but instead of Star Wars stuff its Alien the eighth passenger. Not even a joke, Elona and Elin are basically Ultima Online, but with a few mechanics borrowed from roguelikes
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The aftermath of 2 poltergeists and a boss ygolonac, miasmas bypassing wall of flesh was clutch.
I wish more nefia were like this instead of just getting resistance checked by a spiral king
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>>50821529
It really is too simplistic to say it's just Ultima when it's not like he's hiding his inspirations.
As you pointed out, entire mechanics are dredged out of ADOM, from the potential and corruption systems, pv and dv, damage, religion, blessings, etc. the entire plot of Elona is loosely based on that of ADOM with Slan being that sage dude who dies and lesimas being the caverns of chaos.
Then you have the Ultima influences: moongates being an obvious one, the eye of eternal darkness being obviously the codex of ultimate wisdom, etc etc
The setting is obviously heavily influenced by Michael moorcock, it's a fantasy post apocalyptic of a previous high tech civilization, isygarad is a dead ringer for illustrations of elric, saimore is his own take on elric, the garden keeper calls the place tanelorn, orphe's sword ravenmourne, and the entire setting is as nihilist as fuck.
Recently he's also been doing dragonlance like the staff of Magius.
Saying it's just Ultima is simplifying it a bit too much, like most authors he just put together stuff he liked and shoved it into a blender
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Why am I always furious after watching birds? Was it bad?
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I hope property development becomes more doable, rewarding, and interesting
I wanna be able to make a holy site or cathedral town, or otherwise dedicate a property to a god mechanically, and have a well on it be a holy well and generate tithes, and possibly have some other big ticket god interaction/reward from fully developing it. also just stuff like that in general from other property types. casinos that periodically generate debt slaves, granting you temporary adventurer residents, or something
I wanna be able to set up automatic seasonal variants. december decoration "loadouts" that automatically get switched in when the month rolls around and switched out when it's over would be cinema
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>>50822680
>be directly told to not read the scroll
>read it
>be shocked when you suffer the consequences of your own actions
Tyrisian literacy rates are at an all time low
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>monsters living peacefully
>yeek decides to start a journal
>fills it with his deeps dreams, darkest secrets, most coveted desires, and their heartfelt hopes
>some random adventurer wanders in
>passes the gold
>passes the books
>passes the rare weapons
>passes the rare furniture
>passes all the lore books
>sees parchment
>"Oh is this a scroll?"
>pick it up and see that it says "Don't read this"
>opens it and reads it
>just some Yeek's life
>"THIS IS WORTH MILLIONS!"
>leaves with it
Honestly that's a very believable story for Ylva.
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>find more chests I cannot open despite my base Lockpicking being high
>put them next to each other in my base
>...wait
>realize they're all exquisite treasure chests
...Why is that a factor for lockpicking... They even contained garbage loot... Shouldn't it scale based on the Nefia level... Why...
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>kill an entire horde of monsters that would turn Palmia into a breeding ground for goblins
>+76 fame
>miss a note while playing your ocarina
>-750 fame
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>>50823665
>kill an entire horde of monsters that would turn Palmia into a breeding ground for goblins
how do they even deal with it when you fail the mission, I can't imagine a single palmia npc that could deal with a level 200 wyvern
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>>50825774
No man my guy is a dude, bro. I was playing normally and my sprite look a bit weird. Then I noticed he'd changed into a girl in a bikini somehow and all the townspeople were saying to put clothes on.
He's changed back to normal now but that was confusing
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>>50825807
There's a furniture where if you "enter" it, like for the hotsprings of Olvina, you undress to a bikini or naked depending on chargen choices. You can also be a dude and the sprite still have boobs, Just go to a mirror table furniture and fix it if it bothers you.
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I think something else happened. I was minding my own business playing the game when my dude got ranma'd into a bikini girl and he changed back into a guy a few days later while I was just walking around.
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>>50826094
that does make me wonder where the TF-centric mods are, elin is ripe for them considering there's already putitification/catification/broomification
>genderbends and actual gender mechanics
>species changes with equipment slot changes
>wholesale "you have the stats, abilities, and sprite of a hotspring mermaid/derphy whore/little sister/tyrannosaurus now" style transformations
>all packaged into mutations, ether diseases, or cursed equipment and traps
>need blessed restore body/restore mind potions to undo things, or something harder
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>>50826227
Shadows aren't kamikaze ghosts, they're kamikaze bats that look like ghosts.
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Bestiary/Bat/Shadow
Probably some vampire wizard designed the spell.
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>>50826311
I've no clue what the hell you're talking about.
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>it's real
What the fuck.
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>>50826314
That's explicitly a reference to the experimental weapon America was testing to set Japanese cities on fire by dropping bombs filled with bats with incendiary devices on them that would then explode and set the city on fire as an alternative to use the nuclear bomb or the more expensive fire bombing that was proposed before they finally decided to use the nuclear bomb.
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>I've no clue what the hell you're talking about.
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Super Cub, my beloved
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Sex with bikes
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>>50826921
It's for the new werewolf mob, it can disguise itself as any mob with the humanspeech tag.
Usually painfully obvious in dungeons but since citizens and the like can now spawn on road tiles might be a problem.
Also a problem if that wandering merchant turns out to be a werewolf ambush.
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>>50827897
You could also theoretically cram most of the unique NPCs from Mysilia into one space and play for them, almost all of them are over the level 20 limit needed for the piano. I'm not sure *how* you'd do it, maybe with a whole lot of Telekinesis spam or wands of Teleport, but it is an option.
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>werewolf
Are they going to do the E+ thing where half the town gets murdered and the survivors lynch the other half?
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>>50827088
>we got vampires and slimes
>npcs get rats and werewolves
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How do I unfreeze water in winter? I just wanna fish just so I can offer it to my beautiful Goddess. Also, what else should I put inside my Tent? I have my bed and cooler and that's it. I haven't found a good hammer to make my tent weight less still tho. I'm playing on Nightly
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>How do I unfreeze water in winter?
make it into a hotspring
>Also, what else should I put inside my Tent?
a hotspring so you can fish and boil/hatch eggs anywhere, and maybe some mushroom patches
(also, electricity is pretty cheap, so you might eventually want to upgrade to a fridge, but that'd be a long term goal rather than something to focus on right away)
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>>50831460
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>>50831460
so can we titty-suck ANYONE as an infant...?
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>>50817927
Please consider the fact you asked an AI about a niche game with little no online documentation and with constant daily updates
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Is elixir of blood supposed to be shit or am I missing something? The blood I use to craft it doesn't even match to what the blood changes to
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>>50831771
The ones you apply from resident board
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>you'll forever be a virgin
>but unlimited magic power
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>age 34
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>look at the wiki and find out you can spareduponne
dang i wanted the drop on this character but i guess i should be nice..
>look into it more
>find out about pic that i completely missed
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>>50832791
You can save "Duponne" and kill her later after the quest is over for the ribbon.
>>50831754
No, it changes the food type to the potion, but since the recipe is seeded by the npc's uid it will not be the same.
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>>50833455
>getting optimized gains like other races can with food on a Vampire is stupid hard and random for that reason
Yeah seems like another savescum required mechanic, it certainly doesn't help that the resulting blood changes based on what order you drink the potions
I really feel like this and garok's hammer should just show you a preview what will happen after using the item
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>>50833476
Like succubus, it's a trade off: an easy early game for a slower late game. It's great for your average casual who runs the main story and leaves it at that.
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>>50833768
I wouldn't really call vampire early game easy, sun fucks you and getting npc with good blood is still rng shitfest, though I guess you can just get monster balls for medals and get someone through music quests
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>Big Daddy
>fair
>fucked over in less than 20 turns
How does this stupid game calculate what's fair to fight?
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>>50833820
Sun is trivially dealt with by bat form and watering can. Can't burn if wet.
As for good blood, blood uses the same algorithm to generate dishes as inn food, and just about any inn food outclasses shitty one ingredient meals at that stage, plus quality is easy to get.
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The blood meal multiplier caps out at 8 or 8.5x at 3000+ learning + blood suck level. Thing is that it's only one half of the problem, inn food is going to generate with shit ingredients 99% of the time.
High powered stuff like legendary fish will never be used in a blood meal, you can't bless, can't use cannibal, etc. You don't have control over your meals if you want to focus a different stat and need a good blood roll on an npc for each meal.
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>>50833935
>Sun is trivially dealt with by bat form and watering can.
Yeah but bat form basically makes you useless with the dmg debuffs, hauling 20 watering cans is ass
>As for good blood, blood uses the same algorithm to generate dishes as inn food, and just about any inn food outclasses shitty one ingredient meals at that stage, plus quality is easy to get.
Nah, half the shit generates with negative exp or negative potential. Idk how high quality blood is easy to get if you are in early game but maybe I'm missing something.
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>eat a cat snack
>lose karma
>announce that you are going to rob someone
>gain karma
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I just got the cute fairy and decided to try out this symbiote thing.
Why do all corpses drop as "remnants of what once was X" now? She's not even getting any killing blows.
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Holy cow, is that ring good? I only have 9k total on me.
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Why was it recommended so much in Elona then?
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>>50833935
>You don't have control over your meals if you want to focus a different stat
You do, you just need ketchup. It wastes a slot, yes, but if your only goal is to focus a stat then losing out on one ingredient won't stop you.
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>Begone!
>Etch this into your very soul! Swarm!
>This is the end!
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>>50835944
Your mandrake shield is only as weak as the enchants you roll on it
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So... y'think Flowers in Both Arms will add every extra spouse to the pool of genes your child can inherit? I guess the better question is, will the inheritance be better than Elona? Noa said there was a focus on carrying over the world itself and NPCs, but not much about the PCC.
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>>50835992
A number of them are straight downgrades, some are weird but funny gimmicks and others are basically cool stat buffs with slight downsides like taking up an entire equipment slot.
Mana Battery and Wings are nice, Hooves too but those prevent you from wearing boots and if you've got a good pair like the Seven League boots or what have you, the hooves get in the way of that bonus
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>>50833768
I prefer that sort of tradeoff as a rule. Seems like it's pretty common in games for earlygame to be painful, then once you get established things snowball and become easier. As such, less pain early on for more pain later on is a sweet deal in my book.
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>You don't have control over your meals if you want to focus a different stat
You totally can. I've got half a dozen different snow putits covering different stats and stat potentials. (I wanted a supply of jelly meat for non-perishable blood bags, so I started breeding them early on.) Just remember to heal your cattle after you feed so they don't bleed to death.
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>>50835503
Tried it almost immediately. It's... rough. Turns are super fast, UI doesn't scale. If you're not used to playing like a speed demon in tenhou and/or your screen resolution is too high, you'll have a super rough time.
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>>50837583
The cat younger sister doesn't seem to have gun skill wtf are you supposed to do with her? She costs so many medals but she seems kind of useless to be honest. She doesn't come with gun skill and she can't melee because she dies from 1 hit.
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>>50837506
kek, also
>horome followers can now ask anyone to suck tiddy
huge buff for my horome succ
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I was rolling the Fortune Drum then went home after depleting my Old Tickets. Only then did I notice a Younger Sister following me home. What the fuck is this? Are they going to blackmail me or something?
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Yeah right, I'm not trusting anyone after those two forced me to buy a land in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. Fuck off, you goddamn blackmail scammers!
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>go to get that silver cat ball recipe from the keeper lady
>decide to see what potential her tiddy gives me
>pic
i'm guessing this is unintended?
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>This is the result of my very first year.
Slime is such a balanced race. My longsword skill level (30) is even higher than my melee attacker's, and I'm a mage. I'm going to switch to lightning sword though.
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First of all you need to understand that this is a very savescum focused class just like Chaos Shape. If you’re not a big fan of spamming F9 and F10, you probably won’t enjoy it.
Second, you need to devour someone who has Fast Learner. With Fast Learner 3, you will level up extremely fast, which also opens up even more gene slots. In the early game, you should camp around and devour gangsters because they only have one feat - Fast Learner - which makes the savescumming much less painful. Your goal is to find a gene that combines Fast Learner with your favorite body part. The more time you spend savescumming early on, the smoother and less miserable combat will become later.
Later you should aim for the following genes:
From North from the Norland race (Eat More + Protected from item destruction by cold damage)
Moonlit Kin from the Mother (easy recruitment)
Farming Legs from farmers (less stamina consumed)
Efficient Feeder from the Juere (increases food effects)
It’s ideal if you can get a gene that has either two useful feats or one feat combined with a good body part. Not all of these are mandatory like Fast Learner, but they are very nice to have.
After that, you should look for feats that improve your playstyle (for example, Rapid Cast for casters or Rapid Arrow for archers). From my experience, if you’re playing as a caster, try devouring NPCs who have powerful attack spells such as (Element) Sword or (Element) Arrow. This lets you spam the spell 24/7 (even into the air) which greatly boosts your spell level and casting skill. Spamming (Element) Sword also helps improve your sword skill at the same time. Also make sure to level up Memorization so you can learn Maconomy, which is an absurdly strong skill for Slime.
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You gain potential based on the difference between the highest base stat of the target and your base stat. Since keeper is much higher than you, this happens.
Usually though sex with a god race should instakill you from overwork, but this doesn't seem to happen.
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Thank you I will try it out
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>>50838077
oh yeah i get the stat difference thing i just assume you're probably not supposed to have access to an npc who gives you that much potential for free from the start, but idk maybe you could just always get her drunk as a succubus anyways i don't think i ever tried
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>>50839351
It's mostly cosmetic. As >>50839357 pointed out, there's an interaction with telekinesis, but the damage increase and % to affect are rather muted.
Become a neutron star if you want.
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I thought a crossbow would be better than throwing since it has the multiplier thing going on, but so far it just means a shit ton of crafting and it feels like I'm doing about the same damage as I was with the throwing character at the same point in time. Seems like the only real perk is I have a good excuse to keep leveling up crafting
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I'm way past that. I'm fighting that minotaur boss and just reminiscing on my last character where I slowly chipped away at his health with throwing and running, but this time I can't even damage him. I'm just thinking about all the copper quarrels I'm going to have to make to raise my marksman before I can actually fight him again
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>>50839999
Post a melee weapon static artifact that's better than this then
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>>50839762
I know you're nta, but...
Do you carry mannequins with you?
Do you switch armor sets and weapons between every single action and only use the absolutely most effective spell or skill for literally everything?
My point is you don't actually need to have every variation of every spell. You don't have to have a hundred different sets of armor for every occasion. If you're getting hung up on not being able to keep spell stock at this point in the game, that's a you problem.
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>Do you carry mannequins with you?
yes for the skills I talked about, I use an igloo as a walk-in closet
>Do you switch armor sets and weapons between every single action and only use the absolutely most effective spell or skill for literally everything?
I mean pretty much? Grinding skills takes way too long compared to just putting on equipment I find in the nefia.
>My point is you don't actually need to have every variation of every spell. You don't have to have a hundred different sets of armor for every occasion.
Having at least 5 different intonations is useful to combat the high enemy resists. I use sword skills as talismans and sadly I don't think they scale from literacy.
>If you're getting hung up on not being able to keep spell stock at this point in the game, that's a you problem.
You are probably right with this point though, I didn't make an OP moneyprinter farm so my magic vendors aren't lv100
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Technically 0? You do need to be able to craft runes and have to get lucky with finding 2 cat paw staffs that don't have shit rolls. No idea if equipment being miracle/godly changes max dmg rolls, I think it does, so you would want 2x Garokk hammers. After that it's just changing material with shrines or hammers and using flying scrolls you have laying around to boost dmg even more.
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>Craft item with rune
>Blessed reconstruction scroll to update item level
>Add rune change material if necessary
>Add 2x Garok's hammer
>Enhance to +5 with scrolls
>Bless
The first step can also be replaced with buying a base item at a smith's or finding it or whatever, but only one rune is added then
Honestly this system is a lot more engaging in what to do at some steps like using a good base item or runing but retards scream bloody murder because it's not made from 10 copper bars and 3 magic deer bones or whatever
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truly the perfect mix of autism and comfort, what a game.
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>baby play succubus potential fixes
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We keep jumping from a gimmick to another, while the sheer number of different events if funny, I wish we could go a bit more in depth with each gimmick
The mad millionare thing is just there doing nothing
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Bless the scroll and apply it to the item. It updates it's generation level to that if your deepest nefia cleared. Needed as the Garok's hammer step uses item generation level for the added enchants when upgrading to miracle and godly.
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Is there a point when you can replant your whole crops without reaping the whole field with the sickle? Or maybe some sort of ratio of 2/3 seed reaping and 1/3 harvesting where I can replant with some return in crops?
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Sounds like you have negative fertility. If it's positive you should only have to use the sickle on about half of your crops.
Exterminate all other plant life on the property, check your home board for the current max fertility and calculate how many seeds you can plant without going negative.
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>>50841397
That could be a nice little mod.
Harvest goddess race with the ability of adding some extra traits to rice if it's actively farmed. Pests and policy-resistant weeds occasionally appearing in the fields. A couple crafting stations to process it.
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>Or maybe some sort of ratio of 2/3 seed reaping and 1/3 harvesting where I can replant with some return in crops?
I thought that was the standard, if not after a certain farming level you will be able to get enough seeds per crop so that you can harvest 1/3 of the rest
Also if you plant crops with a structure and use delegated farming, you're able to harvest everything for yourself, and as long you leave the bush intact the delegated farming will turn those leftover bushes into seeds. This is why the blueberry meta is the most efficient and easiest source of income
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>>50841349
It's kinda slow and I don't get to increase my farming skill, so I'm doing it manually.
>>50841390
Motherfucker, I expanded my land recently and didn't notice my fertility dropped to negative after. I thought the new wild plants won't affect it for some reason.
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>if you plant crops with a structure and use delegated farming, you're able to harvest everything for yourself, and as long you leave the bush intact the delegated farming will turn those leftover bushes into seeds
That's nice to know.
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This worked pretty well thanks anon. Now she's actually hitting things. It would be nice if she could be trained up to the point where she could put 4-5 bullets in enemies before they can even move akemi homura style.
She still drops dead if anyone casts spell at her. Apparently DV doesn't help there.
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My ratio has always been 1:1 Harvest/Reap
Each reap should give back 2 seeds at minimum, if you're not over fertility. So 20 crops, 10 reaps gives 20 seeds, 10 harvests for product.
Or just delegate farming.
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>>50840973
noa is just punishing us for not celebrating Friday the 13th last month and aims to end all permadeath runs. It's so over. We should've appreciated his references more, so it wouldn't end up like this...
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fine then, don't tell me where i can get it, let me go pixel by pixel like a slave
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>>50842493
Oh sorry i didn't see your post, it's on ci-en.
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/32473/article/1558227
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You can lead a little sister to water but you can't make her drink.
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Does anything beat farming music quests in Palmia? I get 2000 oren and 7-8 platinum coins per high level music quest and Palmia spawns that quest type more often. I have 200 influence and 100 music skill just from farming plat coins to train my real skills, its so boring I hate it.
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>>50807315
You don't get it. Ratkins (and bunnies) need to be added first, so that cats (and Catgirl) characters are automatically always 'hostile' to them and will run up to them and crowd around them like as if you have some Churyu on you, except they'll occasionally take a free 'non-hostile' swipe at them or throw rocks at them
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Does the "+1 search range" from Spotter 3 mean you see further in the dark/dungeons or is that purely a matter or your light source? If it increases how far you see that actually sounds worthwhile, but I'm a long way from being able to check that
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>throwing minigame enhances your throwing skill
Nice, this is just enough amount of motivation for me to bother with the casino.
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I have not played Elin in like three seasons,
>* While worshipping Horome, anyone can now become your mama. Also, Horome followers no longer become a Sad Creature even if they repeat baby play.
What in the actual fuck was meant by this?
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>>50846067
If only Vampires can learn 'Blood Drinking Manners' that, while lowering gains from drinking blood directly from the source, doesn't cause a huge mess of blood and such anymore making it less likely (or negating) NPCs going aggro on you for catching you in the act.
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>>50846073
>lowering gains
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>>50846367
They could've just left Horome as a 'big onee-san fox goddess', but the backer really wanted to push her as 'big mommy fox goddess' instead, huh. I bet her 'official art' is now the sort of huge boobs huge ass fox girl that you'd commonly see more in furry/western porn games instead of the graceful Sword Dancing Goddess Horome under the gentle light of a full moon.
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wtf
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>>50846674
My brother in Kumiromi, have you read her lines? Especially in Japanese, where half of her lines start with "ara"?
Or one of the ingame books that says getting pregnant and having large families is a divine tenet of hers?
Or that her favoured race is explicitly said to have huge titties?
You are aware that her official in-game character concept sheet highlights the fact that her tits were expanded twice in character design, right?
She was always a mommy.
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>>50846067
You know technically speaking since breastmilk is filtered blood vampires should be able to derive sustenance from it.
>>50846126
It's semi-common in vampire media for bloodsucking to feel orgasmically good. See VTM.
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>follower of Horome
>people assume you're a giga gooner
>you just want the mana draining power
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>>50847501
The ketchup thing is mostly old western kids cartoons where 'that vampire kid who is a nice guy has ketchup instead of blood' thing. It was probably part of some old side ad promotion for ketchup in general as well. Both blood and ketchup is red, so it visually works when it comes to kids.
Obviously this sort of thing also crossed over to anime and such, aka the 'vegan vampires' who refuse to drink blood and get by with tomatoes and ketchup instead.
None of this has anything to do with logic in relation to bodily fluids, of course. Or else you'd have vampires chugging down bottles of milk instead of eating food with copious amounts of ketchup on it.
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>>50847534
Yeah, vampirism is traditionally a curse, so it makes sense for it to operate on its own logic.
It'd be neat if there was an "advanced vampirism" feat/mod that grants you more power in exchange for taking on more of the traditional vampire weaknesses; being unable to enter private property uninvited, cross rivers, enter churches, etc.
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