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Fools Edition.
▶What is this?
/egg/ — Era Games General; also known as the “Era Games Thread”.
Era games are a group of (usually) Japanese-developed text porn games.
They’re not exclusively related to the Touhou franchise, but it’s one of the series with the most Era games.
▶Games usually discussed here
eraTohoTW — Comfy Touhou dating simulator with time stop shenanigans.
eraTohoK — Tactical game about conquering Gensokyo through any (absolutely any) means.
eraMegaten — Dungeon crawler based on the Shin Megami Tensei series, with tons of characters from other series (Fate, Touhou, Madoka, etc) included.
▶Useful Links
Guides and downloads for all Era games. For TW you should get the eng-development version, eng-release is several years old.
>https://wiki.eragames.rip/index.php/Main_Page
Japanese wiki.
>https://seesaawiki.jp/eraseries/.
Report any bugs you find over here.
>https://wiki.eragames.rip/bugreport.php
Compilation of development suggestions for TW.
>https://rentry.org/TW-Idea-List
A link to the Flan dialogue folder + beginners’ template.
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19LjeaQsVIDn5iPAFBXG1mrH82qqMy tMNZKWD6FEQbpw/edit?usp=sharing
A folder link that contains the images used for the Touhou characters.
>https://mega.nz/folder/ud1XiQAa#s1bcCcLc2Lv-tq3I80My0w
P noncombatant un-nerf
>https://mega.nz/file/JRZzAYYK#-a6OabLzrMOah-EvgNZCGW5BHrnxK4Lqe4RObCV bVVI
EraTW-Requiem
>https://gitgud.io/JPAnon/era-tw-requiem
▶Games
Git repository that has latest official builds to any of the games, you can sometimes find more recent versions than the ones on the wiki.
>https://gitgud.io/era-games
Git repository for a fork of eraTohoTW maintained by the /egg/ community.
>https://gitgud.io/Legis1998/anon-tw/-/releases/
▶Tools
Automatic translator which copies text straight from the game. Comes with an optional customized built-in offline model. The password for it is "era".
>https://wiki.eragames.rip/index.php/Sugoi
Direct link for the latest version of Sugoi. Version 10 of Sugoi Translator with the DeepL Fix.
https://mega.nz/file/GlAj3bIa#E4XoJ2yXBjNtKWPUrXjHy3TBWuIVnmHCKGtkjG5D G_Q Fetches the latest version of TW, K or Megaten from the official git, no login needed.
>http://madhammer.club/files/era-updater.7z
▶How to play?
Run anchor.exe (or Emuera, depending on the game), Japanese locale is advised so you don’t run into untranslated text.
If you wish to manually update, delete old files aside the sav and dat folders to avoid any bugs.
▶Tips
If you’d like to either edit or add your own portraits, the files are located within the ‘resources’ folder in webp format. You can use paint.net to edit them.
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You see, HANGED MAN has a preset MP limit. Knowing its weakness, I sent wave after wave of [f] GUARD AUTO at them until they reached their limit and stopped sending Devious Maya to [ 1]Last Resort and [ 2]Self-Destruct me.
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>>50821320
Ah, right. I often forgot about the spamming.I'm still thorougly confused about what commenting out mean.
Randam_chara_role is pretty clear, just replace the thing with the things you want.
Strangely, the other two files once opened are red and barred?
>By default it's set up so that high school slaves will always be male(trap) tuners with item 3, item mastery, and adept 1
>trap
Do you have something to confess?
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>>50821343
Commenting out here just means any line with a ; at the start of it. The machine won't read that line.
>>50821343
>Strangely, the other two files once opened are red and barred?
What do you mean? Can you screenshot it so I can see what is fucked up?
>>50821343
>Do you have something to confess?
Mammon only shows up on men so it has to be either male or male(trap). I'm gonna feed him a candy before training regardless, however male(trap) gets a female rando portrait while male(male) gets a male one. This doesn't change after candies either. It doesn't really matter overly much for me personally since I replace portraits of my generics but I think most people would prefer female looking portraits. If you don't then it's simple to change, simple comment out the trap result for the male one.
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>>50821384That's Mammon from If! As in, the portrait is totally it! It's glorious!
That's a lot of ';', yes?
>What do you mean? Can you screenshot it so I can see what is fucked up?
Nevermind, I thought it was an Visual Studio Code issue, but it was just me reading the file from the rar.
>Mammon only shows up on men so it has to be either male or male(trap).
This isvile
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>>50821403
>That's a lot of ';', yes?
Yep, one for each line. There are ways to do it in a block but for things meant to comment in and out doing it line by line is the simplest way.
>That's Mammon from If
That's what I was going for. Fun fact, the actual demon mammon has a TS set of portraits already, although tuners don't get access to them. I used that as inspiration for my own sloppa.
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>>50821427
The TS portrait set is already in, it's not mine. Only the tuner portrait above. If you want it I posted it last thread along with some other generic portrait sloppa I slopped and lightly edited. It's mostly personal use stuff so there is no real need to have it added.
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managed to beat the fuckers by just facetanking for a few thousand turns (last fight i had to be pretty careful to mediarahan every so often). knew i forgot something...
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>>50821480
i'm just glad to finally be rid of that smug fucking event mocking me with its incompletion
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>>50821574
What's wrong big boy, scared of a little bit of HYPE MOMENTS and AURA?
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>>50821579
I'm scared of garbage.
You want to do something dumb, do Jojo, Digimon, Symphogear, or if we are to talk about porn stuff, Venus Blood, or Rance.We have Fumika, who's good but the character suck, and Demon's Root, which is overated but the route is kino.
But if you do slops like JJK, I will hate you so fucking much holy shit.
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>>50821574
ok but consider how funny it'd be if there was a whole CSW man where you recruit all the characters, upgrade them and everything through events, follow the plot in a faithful reproduction, **and then everything gets reset once you actually finish the questline. you lose all the characters, characters lose any upgrades they got through events, etc. pochita finishes off the questline with, "you were happier before you got all these cool things" and your only option is to say thank you. and then you're forced to NG. without an ending.**
japans love no fun allowed, right?
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>>50821601
Not him, but I will find you.
>>50821602
I really don't know why anyone expected anything else after fire punch. I didn't even bother reading it because I knew what sort of author the mangaka was from that.
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>>50821601
Also garbage. I can't understand how people ever liked it, even as anime-only. Which is probably why is started to lose viewers, they started to realize they were eating korean junk food.
>>50821602
One nuke is currently prepared.It's not, it's just for the joke. But don't ever do that.
Oh and Chainsaw Man IS slop. It's not the worse slop though but still slop.
>>50821607
I found him funny, the shitty ending was obvious, I think everyone saw it coming, the manga was going down fast.
The author and his twitter trolling added some flavors.
I'm way to passionate about this.
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>>50821619
I'll never understand why korean power fantasies need an obligatory NTR arc, even going back to japanese published-korean written stuff like Freezing or Sun-Ken Rock before actual korean comics made it big.
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>>50821623
you really don't want to even try to understand the korean male psyche, anon. it would be like goku absorbing a spirit bomb and going ultra instinct, except the spirit bomb is an incomprehensible amount of confucian misogynic-induced homosexuality.
on that note, dragon ball super be added to era.
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>>50821627
Oh I agree. But asians have many problems that I stopped to think too hard about.
I also have a perfect meme for it.Hmm, Live a Live COULD be good I guess.
>>50821629
Korea is a ticking bomb.
>North or South?
Both! Duh!
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>>50821635
To be honest, Dragon Ball isn't actually that impressive on powerscaling. 99% of it just raw brute force stuff(even considering Super and the like) and the remaining 1% is wishes that do what the plot demands at the time. Anything that works on conceptual basis's or involves even minor reality warping is at least a few tiers above it.
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>>50821641
so you're saying goku in era needs a few buffs
that can be arranged
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>>50821641
>To be honest, Dragon Ball isn't actually that impressive on powerscaling
Bro, SSJ2 Goku would solo era. I can't believe I'm saying this, and I'm being nice because I'm not talking about their auto teleportation bullshit.
>Anything that works on conceptual basis's or involves even minor reality warping is at least a few tiers above it.
Let's not talk about that sort of things though. Thinking about Ultra Instinct or GER in era gives me nightmare.
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>>50821649
Counter argument, Goku punches a demon with repel strike and explodes himself.
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pretty often with this solo challenge i'll end up softlocked in a position where i can neither win nor lose. usually because the enemyis a cheating bastard who can use MAG-dependent skills for freehas regeneration and i simply can't out-damage it.
in this case, with +8 atk, i'm dealing ~35 damage per hit to an ouroboros. and i need to deal... more than 180 damage per turn.
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>>50821651
Good point actually!
But there are things like Kamehamehas, which could potentially bypass that sort of stuff, it's Chi, Chi is body, so it should be Physical, but you never know with DB.
So counter, counter argument: This is actually another reason to NOT add Goku in there: the headache!
Perhaps Dragon Ball? I mean, Kid Goku is strong, but wouldn't anal destroy everything.
This remind me of the debates about if Goku for Smash would be good, some would play strawman about moves that would destroy everything, but some others just say "Just make a nerfed Goku, or a Kid Goku nerfed, it's not that hard bro"Not that it matter, because Goku is a manga character, and Smash isn't about manga, they just pick what is most popular at the time, while putting some of their own things.
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>>50821660
no, lower tartarus. grinding a bit for nyx avatar. helped nyx with a fight that ended up with an ouroboros, which you unfortunately can't run from. the SoTN girl in the sewer fight request had a similar dynamic much earlier-game where i just had to come back later when I was stronger.
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>>50821669
I'll proooooooooooooooobably be able to get Rabi-Ribi's ending. I'm able to actually get exp in lower tartarus by winning some fights, so I assume I can reach at least level ~90. I haven't used any of my revue fights so that's hopefully another several levels there.
if i can't, then executive ending it is.
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>>50821675
I think it fits pretty well thematically actually, unless you'd prefer it to be a physical element like the generic spread/focus danmaku skills(piercing). Now there is a pretty good argument that higher types of ki could be almighty but generic basic bitch ki? Nuke fits fine(especially when you consider that nuclear in megaten has been used as a stand in for almighty in the past).
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>>50821684
I mean, like I said, Chi is like I said, >>50821658
>But there are things like Kamehamehas, which could potentially bypass that sort of stuff, it's Chi, Chi is body, so it should be Physical, but you never know with DB.
>Nuke fits fine(especially when you consider that nuclear in megaten has been used as a stand in for almighty in the past).
But we aren't in megaten, we are in era.
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>>50821629
It's really not that hard to understand why korean men are the way they are once you learn that their old president who was the first and so far only female president publicly acknowledged that she was a part of a legitimately psycho feminist cult that held the belief that all male korean babies should be aborted.
They're fucked up but when you look at their recent history you just gotta say yeah okay I get it. Maybe they'll be alright one day.
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The most important question about Dragon Ball is whether you can hit them or not. And AGI and END are the most important stats so everyone in eratensei can tank and hit them.
This anon >>50821651 has the right idea and it works. Just watch Garlic Junior's movie and filler or Zamasu to see how Dragon Ball characters deal with things they can't punch or blast with their nuclear skills. They can't do anything to Garlic and Zamasu while those two just keep hitting them with pathetic attacks to wait for the brutes to run out of energy. And the Androids are built to do that against the brutes (They can even toy with the brutes at an equal strength just watch how 17&18 killed all those brutes in Trunks's timeline). 17&18 lost against Trunks because his AGI, END, STR were raised too high for them to fight him. You can fight them with enough AGI and END and if your team are immune or reflect Nuclear and Strike then they will fall after 20 turns.
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>>50821686
Kamehamehas aren't inherently any different from other types of blasts. It all comes down to what sort of ki/chi is being used to power it. I would suggest that normal ki is nuclear, evil ki is gravity, and god ki is almighty were more DB characters to be added.
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after all this time, i haven't hypnotized anyone in TW once, but that's just because i don't see the option to do it. i've been alone with girls many times, but still never see it
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>>50821698
Hm, I disagree. Not with the element, I think it's pretty genius, it's just two things, it complicate things, and big ass ray of nuclear, that would be anal destroying. Because lt's not kid ourselves, Kamehemeha is big.
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not good enough...
i'm the same level as her right now (77) and i'm pretty sure another 3 or 4 would do it, but i would feel slightly shamed by overleveling. i could grind for yen in tartarus to get to the next payment threshold. what level is crimson armor at? 45?
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RRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
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day 1 solo upper tartarus COMPLETEain't no way in hell i can beat elizabeth i'm pretty sure. she scales to your level and has a whole party with like 50 different types of damage.
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>>50821874
Wow, you did it! Congratulation!
>spoiler
She would most likely Megiolaon you away.
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>>50821875
megiolaon isn't the problem whatsoever. it's any 3+ of nerve, mind, earth, water, wind, and gravity, since i can only turn 2 of them into absorptions for any 1 battle. not to mention any status effects like brand, stone, or anything else if I can't do mind or nerve. and since i can never outlevel her, i don't know how i'll ever be able to tank her party long enough to deplete their MP.
although, if i do a training first, i'll have access to functionally infinite macca/cash. so maybe there's some combination of bullshit in one of the stores that could do the trick? i doubt it though.
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>Anon, you've heard of 'marble' before, right ?
>It's a very nice and pretty looking, usually white-colored type of metamorphic rock...
>Meaning that marble is actually made out of other type of rocks when placed under certain conditions.
>For marble, they're apparently made when the minerals that are in limestone or dolomite is 'crystallized' under a very hot and pressurized environment...
>Marble can vary in appearance according to the original rocks and minerals that formed it...
>Pure white marble are formed from very pure limestone or dolomite...
>And those with the beautiful patterns and veins are formed when impurities such as sand, clay, or other minerals are present during its formation.
>Humans apparently find marble to be very useful and beautiful...
>Marble can be used in construction, but their most well-known use is in the creation of statues and sculptures...
>Since ancient times, humans have used marble to produce stunning pieces of artworks, thanks to its appearance and qualities (I wonder if I'll get a marble statue of myself one day...)
>Even in marble buildings, people often sculpted beautiful imageries and shapes into the walls and corners to decorate them, essentially turning an entire building into one massive art piece.
>Well, what do you think of marble, Anon ?
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>>50821907
Solo anon, you can combat train some characters for MC's Mag enhancement.
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>>50822195
At your level, you can raise them to level 30 and give them 300.000 MAG each time (less if your alignment isn't closer to the character). That's 30 stats for a character in MAG enhancement. If you do that with 5 characters a day, that's 150 stats you give them for Mag Enhancement and that also raises your MC.
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>>50822209
Why do things in such a roundabout way? Unless you're playing with a self-imposed old rules of 'I can only enter and exit a dungeon once per attempt', you don't even need to MAG Transfer via Training. Just grabMegidoloana good attack/spell that can one-shot even high level stuff, bring some characters over, and there you go. Not only are you getting levels to them, you're also giving them MAG from killing stuff and you can do it an unlimited number of times - the only thing stopping you is your willingness to spend the time doing it.
Unless you're going all-in on the 'strictly solo' thing and you're using Training Sessions to level them up before MAG Transferring over, then fine. That said, I often forget Incense exists and I tend to NG+ while having hundreds of the stuff. I don't think they carry over anymore either as individual items or if you used them on someone, unless you stuff them onto a demon and save them into a compendium.
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>>50822818
I think that anon is doing a solo run so he can't put anyone on the party. He wants to Enhance himself so combat training helps with that because he can raise them to level 30 and gives them 300.000 Mag with just 1 training at his level (He beats Nyx Avatar alone himself).
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I like my Vampire Lady wife. She isn't the best, but she is fun.
And she is from Romancing SaGa 2.
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>>50822914
Speaking of EX characters, I still find it strange that there's a LoL character there, but it's just Garen. You'd think it'd be Gwen or one of the other female characters, but no. Is Garen just there because of some BL players or something?
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>>50823127
Personally I'm just miffed there's no Kindred
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This might be a stupid question, but maybe it's just how the games are or I'm retarded.
Is there any way to make the girls in any of the era games more rapey?
In TW, they barely push me down (even on rape city mode) and do it then and there, but somehow if my only two options are "surrender" and "resist", I don't satisfy them enough and they get pissed off with me. Like, it's not my fault you weren't raping me hard enough, so I have to take the lead in a "rape" scenario in order to satisfy them? Not to mention the dialogue doesn't really match the fact they're doing the raping.
In eraTensei, enabling pushdown means giving filthy males the opportunity to do it, too, and I don't like that. Besides that, it all ends up being more 'submissive' mechanics anyway, like I'm back in the training mode, rather than them training my character or whatever. That's not rape at that point, I'm just training them temporarily, I've become a practice dummy for them to be trained into submission through a "rape" scene.
I need harder rapes.
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>>50823216
Use your imagination, anon. You can wear a chastity cage and lick their pussy until they orgasm. Roll a dice to see if they will reward you by letting you orgasm with your cock if it's even number. If it's odd number then they step on your chastity cock. Repeat and you get a fun scenario.
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I love Sera, my Zoma. She deals so much damage and can one-shot anything after Concentrate+ Donum Magici boost with "Dynamic Agilao". And she can use it 4 times each dungeon.
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Weekly update:
TW
- Some minor text issues here and there got fixed.
ERARANCEK
- A few typo fixes and bug fixes here and there.
- A bunch more stuff got translated, and some other translations got updated to match how the official MangaGamer Rance translations translate them.
- A few new types of mercenaries got added.
- Rance can now nightcrawl anyone.
- A portrait for female Aizel got added.
- Support for training abilities alongside a partner was added.
- A new feature where you can do hero hunts as a player was added.
- A new feature where you can tame female monsters was added.
MEGATEN
- A typo got fixed.
- A crash when using Kama Sammohana got fixed.
- Fixed Tu'er Shen's compendium entry getting cut off because of using the wrong kind of comma.
BLUE_RESORT
- Version 0.104 was released. Major changes include an Auto-Command Filter option, a "Work Out Together" option at Community Gymnasiums, plus the usual "more images (especially Promethia and Patchouli), more EX characters, and some bug fixes".
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>>50823216
I have the opposite problem. I disabled weakling mode and even have pushdown guard up but I still get pushed down. I spam Kiss, Embrace and Headpat to reach Love but they keep jumping me. suffering from success
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>>50823216
You can use the cheat menu to increase lust mode even higher than normal. When it comes to getting pushed down, you basically just have to let it happen until the girls increase their proclivities and stats high enough to rape you properly.
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>>50823653
Maybe I'll give the Whale Scenario a go again later; not playing the latest RanceK version, but I had errors if you tried to look at 'Char List' in 'War Phase' or you tried to look at 'Ability List' during 'Base Phase'. It'd also sometimes error out during sex - once during consensual sex when someone tried to touch my FeMC booba when she still had clothes on, while the second time when I ran into Rance in a dungeon and lost and he decided to Golden Shower the girls. Both felt like perhaps edge-case error things because doing it again didn't cause an error again.
For the Whale Scenario, what is the intended difficulty? In Normal difficulty Rance gets floored real fast, while in Nightmare Rance will eat the Copandon Free Cities real fast, before turning towards Lia up north if he doesn't hit Ghandi instead via Crook/Am way (the 15000 vs 150000 soldiers he starts with makes that huge a difference). Meanwhile Japan is just Japan and the dirty gajins (Copandon) will often go interfere with them.
Meanwhile Lia is too weak in the sense of character level cap, and often she'll throw her army into Ghandi's Adam's Fort meatgrinder, while pushing into Stessel while ignoring Patton - whether Patton as a faction lives or not depending on RNG as to whether Stessel meets Lia's army, deletes Megaforce Terra and/or the Kalar first, or takes their home Volgo Z while they're busy elsewhere. Lia herself and some of her characters start out with <Rance's Woman>, so they're pretty much gone the moment Rance starts marching at her unless you can manage to make them forget Rance, preferably by making a custom character with Imperial Juice to level them up that way.
Megaforce Terra and the Kalar are just made out of paper with their tiny armies - probably supposed to be super strong/feared individually and/or has technology/barrier stuff to make them untouchable in lore (didn't play the Rance games involving them), but K mechanics doesn't care about such things. Is it even possible to survive as them? At least Crook and Am are just trying to one-up each other unbothered by the world; same with Urza and Nelson.
Meanwhile for the Hornet vs Kayblis/Kesselring/Camila front, are they supposed to play defensively? Hornet tends to charge into Kayblis' Beauty Tree, where it's fortified with like 800k troops who promptly delete the army stacks Hornet sends their way. Kayblis tends to execute any captured monster gal as well, if they didn't die in combat (death chance is set to medium by default).
Otherwise it kind of feels like a Miki babysitting simulator, if you want to keep her from awakening. Especially if you want to dungeon with her, you'd need to turn Ero Traps off because they cause a lot of Ambition points on her. Losing to Rance is bad as well, because even if you're playing as Miki herself, Rance will happily rape you for losing to him in a dungeon. You can't make her join (You)r Mercenary Squad either (though she can probably start one up herself?), so while you can bring Kentarou in, Miki will eventually join a faction and Kentarou will run after her (leaving your Mercenary Squad in the process). Chances are characters with Invincibility Field can be just as easily captured by Special Factions via events, so once that happens Miki is on the fast-track to Archfiend (unless you can get her out ASAP via Slave Market or similar).
tldr; as an Officer, is the intent that (You) should actually spend a fair bit of time doing Duties (and getting a Specialised Duty) instead of spending it all in Dungeons to level up? I used to Dungeon dive every turn to max out character levels, until I saw just how big an impact doing Duties actually does to your country's Treasury and Solder growth, especially when you actually Invest in the cities via Treasury donation. Assuming you left on 'Officers cannot give direct orders' on, anyway.
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>>50821877
>or anything else if I can't do mind or nerve
I don't suppose you have a means of getting Mind or Nerve Nullification? Not the resistances, but the actual skills. They'll stop the bad status effects regardless of how much damage you take.
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>>50823976
there's the 2 accessories in the macca store, but IDK how they work for half-demons. half-demons don't get resistances from equipment, but the items themselves sound like they give the skill anyway?
but they're 50k macca apiece, so it should usually work out better to just buy the normal anti-status effect accessories from the junk shop. they don't have everything though; there's no anti-BRAND equipment afaik. which does that even fall under though? mind or nerve?
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>>50823996
oh, but they have really high requirements too, rip. stoic ring it is.
why no nullBRAND reeee
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>>50823845
Lia and the other girls only start with <Rance's Woman> if you spawn Rance's children, you can comment that out in slg > scenario >SCENARIO_RANCE10 ctrl+f VIRGINIZE_LOST and put ; at the start of everything from SIF TALENT:LOCAL:処女 to EXP:LOCAL:出産経験値 += 1, if you want a bit more of a freeform world.
The Horus are generally supposed to be pretty strong but they're also not really a faction, sorta like how Am isn't really a faction. I think that's just liberties taken for k since they couldn't really function as wanderers. The kalar do have a barrier and a large scale curse though that makes it nigh impossible to actually defeat them. So they shouldn't die as easily as they do, but they shouldn't really leave pencilcow much eiher so they're complicated. A good idea might be to scripted ceasefire them for a handful of turns so they stick around a bit.
Hornets kinda retarded in the games and in K so it's roughly accurate, but she's also retardedly strong so she should last a bit longer than she does. Her defeat being inevitable without intervention is accurate.
Babysitting Miki is kinda accurate too, it should actually be way harder than it is as fiends should attack the faction Miki is in trying to capture her, but generally if you manage to recruit her and "treat" her well, you won't ever have to worry about her turning. She's good to have in your pocket anyway for reasons so definitely go out of your way to recruit her if she ever shows up.
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You want to cheat some stat in. Basically take your preferred girls and give them a bunch of levels in Vaginal skill(or whatever it is you want). This not only makes them actually likely to want to use their pussies but also makes it actually feasible for them to cum during rape, unlike on 0 experience.
Higher lust levels will also help.
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>>50823127
Plenty of people ignore the porn and see this game as a dungeon crawler sandbox with crossover characters, so there is a chance it was someone who did not care about the sex and only wanted to fight in a party with him.
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>>50823996
>half-demons don't get resistances from equipment, but the items themselves sound like they give the skill anyway?
You're on the money. Fixed-resistance characters still get to benefit from any skills they have equipped, even if they're a Tuner or Shifter in their demon form. Your Half-Demon will get full benefit from Mind Nullification.
>>50824084
Yumeko, the Lilim you get from one of the early requests, gets to evolve into a Succubus at... level 42? ish, if you need a guaranteed source of them.
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On the <Rance's Woman> part, I guess that does make sense. I've been playing it while having that turned on - I should turn it off, I guess. Dark Rance takes a bit of time to get going, but El can be quite scary even early on.
As for the Kalar, I guess it'd be a bit much if you gave them all Invulnerability Barriers and/or Magic Immunity, when the 'barrier' itself is on Pencilcow itself. Hard to try to reflect with the K engine, as you could try to make up for it with R rank natural defences or something, but that'd still leave the Kalar vulnerable to direct attack skills or sheer numbers dropping in on them.
As for Miki, it's too bad that she's hardcoded to run after Kentarou. Could become her mutual lover and have babby making sex every single night, but she'll always run after Kentarou. Can't become a new mental pillar of support for her, nor can you easily trigger the lemon hunt for her (gotta dive the random dungeon with floors and/or try to do it via the Daily Event). I suppose you could try cheesing it by disabling all events except the Lemon Hunt daily event, just like how you'd do it for drug addicts in TohoK, but I was hoping there'd be another way of assisting her in this way.
Regarding fiends trying to capture her, I guess that'd be difficult because both Miki and Kentarou always starts as Wanderers. Unless it's turned into a Miki-specific daily event that triggers based on chance and number of turns since last trigger, where Miki, Kentarou and others close to her fight the Fiends off as a dungeon party? However, that'd require RanceK to incorporate the experimental elements of (New)FGOK, where NPCs can have relations with other NPCs, as everything is otherwise based on their relation with (You) (even the other characters' willingness to rape others in dungeons is based on their relation with (You)).
Yeah, I know of the military uses of Miki in that you could use her as a literal roadblock with her Invincibility Barrier, especially if the enemy doesn't have the means to break it and they don't have any direct damage skill users to force her numbers to 0. But I just wanna treat her like my imouto or waifu, you know?
On a side note, how is solo/duo exp training gains determined in RanceK? It almost feels real random at times as to whether they get +1 exp or like +10-20 exp (mostly combat skills), or like up to +400 exp (mostly Singing/Cooking, especially when initially low). Doesn't seem to be consistent, especially the 'willingness to teach/learn' thing, and what's actually reflected in the text (whether it 'goes smoothly' or 'no enthusiasm to teach/learn'). All I know is that you can learn Skill Levels from someone though this, stuff like Sword Combat and such.
And speaking of skills, does 'Your Exclusive Skill' ever get good enough for army fights as a damaging move? It feels like it'd take a long time, maybe NG+-ish, for it to be worth while. Especially since enhancing your Exclusive Skill takes Action Points as well, while enhancing your Exclusive Weapon doesn't (though weapon enhancement can fail or even lose levels on failure, like your good old Korean MMO enhancement grinds).
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Pretty sure you can't stack mana surges/bonuses/gains. Mana aid would be nice if you want to use it more than once a dungeon without relying on items or just swapping the demon. Invigorate to recover the MP used on concentrate too. Maybe sabbath drain for more MP recovery?
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>>50824501
I mean, if you take a turn to use Concentrate, you rne the risk to have the nuke demon get demolished.
Coming fresh into this World of Nuke, I'd say you need as much MP as possible, and then AGI to be sure to actually hit the thing your are targetting.
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Actually they do stack iirc. Maybe it has been patched?
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There's supposedly a way to ask characters to follow you if you have 3k+ submission, though I've never seen it. But it doesn't really matter if you're a ruler anyway, Kentarou will automatically join you if you recruit Miki. Not really sure what happens if you ever let him get captured, but I would assume him following Miki takes priority over Miki following him. Never got him captured to find out.
Anyway the real reason you want her in your pocket isto execute her and become the new archfiend.Not that I would ever do that, of course.
For training I noticed that their opinion of you helps. Hornet was consistently giving me 10+ gains while someone like Meglass would only be 1.
Never bothered with the exclusive skill or weapon, can't really say if they're worth it or not.
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>Femme Mermaid's Awakening Skill.
>Auto: Raises the maximum amount of hits for attacks with a variable attack count.
So, does it work only for skills that are 3-6 hits attack? Or does it work also for 3-3 attack?
You have to answer after that pic.
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>Not that I would ever do that, of course.
I would. If I can't add her to my harem, I would.
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>>50824724
Vishnu GAINED that 34, it does percent MP damage to enemies and triggers EVERY coop attack. So 6 characters with Sabbath drain triggering coop every attack is 36 procs a turn. Even if we assume 1% MP drain that's still a mere 3 turns to fully drain any boss who can't regen MP. And it's worse(better?) than that, looking at the code it looks like a 5% MP drain/MP heal when procced? You don't even need a single turn to cripple a boss.
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>>50824743
Right, right gained, that number 1922 was like a slap in the fact. I'm stiil reeling. I had given up on this skill because the description made it seem it was 'sometime'.
>than that, looking at the code it looks like a 5% MP drain/MP heal when procced?
So that Vishu had, literally, 34 MP missing, otherwise, otherwise he would have gotten 90 or so MP instead?
Invigorate (L) is SWEATING.
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He got 34 MP because that's 5% of his max MP(heals half the amount absorbed up to 5% of max). The enemies lost 1922 or whatever because that's (presumably) 5% of their's. It seems to work on max MP. And again, per proc. Even a single character can proc it multiple times if there are multiple coops they take part in. Really saved my ass in that fight since I forgot a way to snipe lakshimi. No need to when everyone is reduced to a basic attack slap fight. Can't mediaharan if you have no MP. The hero couldn't use his special boolets either since apparently those cost MP too.
> I had given up on this skill because the description made it seem it was 'sometime'.
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So it's 5% of HIS MP? Understandable. But man talk about draining the MP of the boss.
In a way, it's understandable that it's not nerfed, because it would mean that you would get basically unlimited M-
>The enemies lost 1922 or whatever because that's (presumably) 5% of their's
>It seems to work on max MP
Fuck?
>I see nothing in the code that makes it a chance based affair
Because of picrel.
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>>50824806
I am very tempted to build a squad of third eye gorillas with and just put all the sabbath skills on them. Let me look at some of the others....
>sabbath striker
So there actually is a chance to proc in the code. It's just set to 100% for drain. That return 25 is a 25% chance for striker. It's 100 on drain. The description technically isn't lying!
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How do I efficiently farm hermit peaches in TW?
Sundays 10PM ish?
Is there a good guide to optimizing? Info on how to really get shit done mid and late game seems thin on the ground. I have completed Abe's Will though, looking to like, get a 1L+ creampie or something.
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to add to this; i'm pretty certain that if you don't have enough luck, it's not a matter of just needing to foraging more to beat the odds for the rare stuff, it's straight up impossible. so if you forage a dozen times and get nothing, you aren't getting anything that day.
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>>50824673
Exclusive weapons I feel like can be worth it. They might not feel as good as normal weapons, but if you have high skill in that type of weapon (e.g. Sword Combat), it can make up for the fewer stat spread with sheer firepower. Especially with guns - though there's pretty much only two or three guns as normal weapons and maybe one or two as character exclusive, the 'Exclusive Weapon' gun causes -10 Def and Speed as demerits, but those are fixed debuffs.But with Gun Combat skill, they can give stupidly huge bonuses - with a Gun Combat 3 character, an enhancement level 10 Exclusive Gun gave like +105 Attack or something. Also every 10 enhancement levels allows you to add a bonus affect to your Exclusive Weapon - I don't know if the three presented to you are fixed or RNG, but one of them listed was '+9% HP recovery every turn in dungeons'.
Your exclusive weapon doesn't cost time to upgrade and only costs money, so they can be worth it. Though note that though there are three levels of enhancement, they all do the same thing - chance to +1 the weapon, no added bonuses. The only difference between them is whether the +1 succeeds or not, so if you savescum, you could get easily get a powerful Exclusive Weapon within the first few turns or so.
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>>50824964
You guys are really making me want to play EraRance, despite knowing it's as good.
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Of the top of my head, focusing on tuners with decent resists and without repeats.
>Mammon Red
>Hastur Yellow, alternatively Tao Tie Yellow if we go by the devil kids one
>Nyarlathotep Black
>Beelzebub Blue
>Shadow Green?(the mask looks greenish I guess), could also do Cthulhu or Old One Green.
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>female reaper
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nevermind she would be an absolute bottom-tier garbage whore. not even worth raping.
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>Apathetic
>Lacks Emotions
>Sadist
>Insane
I'm pretty sure you need emotions to be considered a sadist or insane
Someone who lacks emotions would rather do things quickly and as efficiently as possible instead of prolonging whatever they're doing, since they won't be receiving any pleasure or even begin to think about the act being pleasant anyway
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J( 'ー`)し・・・i'm too disappointed to even want trash like >her for something like that now. this is just like when i finally got cow himemiya. you'd think a girl whose whole questline & ending revolves around her getting raped multiversally or whatever wouldn't be such a dogshit whore.
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>>50825163
i can rapemaster 9000 a whole lot worse than a human turned cow and still almost always end up with a better whore than himemiya. like veil. there's really no reason for a multiversal whore conquering galaxies to be so bad at it. it's just bad story-gameplay integration.
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>>50825172
She is literally a human transformed into an animal, made to be killed and eaten though.
Jesus, it make every time you are going into the Factory for events very fucking creepy
>like veil
Do not the pink chicken.
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>>50825194
i am going to turn the hollow knight into a splendid whore with big fucking knockers and you can't stop me
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>Do not the pink chicken.
Look man, it's not my fault cute petit gryphon girls are so desirable.
Same with edgy purple cerberus waifus with big fat milkers and silly shortstack catwives in swashbuckler outfits who for some reason speak like fucking Jack Frost
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>>50825209
The brainrot has brained me.
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>>50825203
are you really a rapemaster if you wouldn't? why are you even in the phantom society?
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>>50825216
The most important things.Man, I'm such a pussy. I'm only doing the Whore and Toy stuff for the Tai set and ending.
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>>50825197
Because whoever made the route never made her into a character. You do get a unique half demon female version of a Terminator along the way though.I really like the route, it's cool how it integrates other various route's flags into it. For instance if you have Cielo you can ride him into battle.
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Fumika isn't even bad. Perhaps a bit one dimensional, but she does what she is designed to do well. Attack mastery 3, successor, pierce, a variety of good physical attacks(including a few elemental options) and some good passives. The worse that can be said is she doesn't have unique skills. She does need some help from gear to get life surge and the like but that's not a big deal.I may or may not be responsible for convincing the guy who made her to have made her the way she is.
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Ribbon SP defeated, solo, day 1.
>Grinded Tartarus until I could get level 50 gear since my survivability just wasn't good enough otherwise
>Buy best fist weapon (Str+End mastery) for more accuracy/damage
>Full set of Crimson Armor for innate Life Surge
>Fire & Wind absorptions
>Always defend when nuclear/flame resistances are negated to avoid getting BRAND or FLAME
>Mediarahan only when below 200 hp to conserve MP
>EVENTUALLY whittle down her MP to 0 after 10 minutes of balancing HP & MP on a tightrope
>she doesn't regenerate MP
>easily punch her into oblivion once she's stuck with basic attacks
What will the bunny's punishment be for such a troublesome boss fight?
[0] Give her a light punishment(Joins with a small of amount of sexual experience)
[1] Help her recover(Joins with the Trust state)
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>>50825203
The Hollow Knight characters exist in eraMegaten so that people know that they're trash
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>>50825220
>Fumika isn't even bad
Have you seen her skillset? Her stats? Especially compared to the original game? She's even an Expert!
>spoiler
Devil! How could you take us from 1 Trillion of numbers Fumika?
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>Coward of Hallownest
That's in character to be fair.
Wait what the fuck am i reading.
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>Pushed down by pipe fox
>She starts mocking me that my 2hu wife can't satisfy me
>Coom inside pipe fox
>She laughs and says that I'm officially cheating now
>Start feeling bad
I don't want to pipe the pipe fox anymore
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>>50825229
>Have you seen her skillset?
It's pretty fine to be honest. Multiple severe tier attacks of different elements, power charge, double trace to go with her successor trait, and some MP efficient mobbing tools. Not top tier or super unique but perfectly functional at being a gorilla stabbing things.
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>>50825242
For your sins of rejecting the fox.
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>>50825251
Fufu, greedy one aren't you.
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>>50825251
You can only cheat with actual humans because you can't have real sex with non-humans.
It's just sticking your dick in an onahole.
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>>50825252
>Yukari looking at Anon breeding everyone
>including her best friend
>including her past best friend
>including her past best friend's grandma
>including herself from the past
>including her Shikigami
>including her Shikigami's Shikigami
>Yukari: *oh yeah, it's all cuming together*
>Ran: *What*
>>50825255
Chefei has such a cool sprite. It was such a good call to put her in Era too.
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>>50825260
Well. No Ran for you.
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「鉛のメダル times 10, so 50 points.」
「鋼のメダル times 10, so 100 points.」
「シルバーメダル times 5, so 75 points.」
「ゴールドメダル times 7, so 140 points.」
「プラチナメダル times 5, so 125 points.」
「血塗れたボタン times 1, so 100 points.」
「白雪の石 times 1, so 120 points.」
the first several are medals, the 2nd to last one is a button i got when I beat reaper, last one is the white snow button, so I guess they're just tokens you can exchange for the research material collection request.
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You're masturbating. Gensokyo is about to turn into a progressive multicultural purgatory full of nothing but part-human part-youkai crossbreeds and you're sitting here flicking your bean.
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>baby luci doesn't learn unique shit
>but if you rank up a ronove you get this
Huh. Let's see how much of this it actually learns.
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>>50825343
And as extra fun, baby luci actually has different resistances too. I shall now proceed to fuse both of them together into a gnome so I can start at the bottom of the fallen tree and rank all the way up through it.
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>>50825384
bro is out here playing eraMorrowind
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>>50825384
That's what you get for neglecting Agility. Now go do some laps around the track and throw some darts and maybe you'll be able to keep up in dodgeball, never mind deadly combat with superhuman supernatural creatures.
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>>50825384
Do you have enough Ag?
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>eraMorrowind
Would
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>>50825406
You basically never miss in morrowind though, assuming you use a weapon you actually have skill in and aren't running around at zero stamina. Pretty much the sole exception is that one wood elf in mournhold.Dagoth Ur in megaten when?
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I swear P changed something with the accuracy checks. Shit never used to be as extreme as it is now.
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i guess i could try switching to rapier+mastery. but rapier also gives you intelligence & luck which are stinky. doubt it'll become winnable though.
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>>50825418
maybe after i've done my training for the better rabi-ribi ending/executive ending. atm not a single character aside from MC has gotten 1 point of mag. but i should be able to get a decentish amount on whoever i train.
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>>50825422
>You can't mag enhance the MC without allies
...Did everyone decided to accept the modern shit???
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>and anon is doing a solo run.
Oh different Anon, make sense.
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i hate the change less than i thought i would. if anything, i can enhance my MC MORE than i could in the original, and with less grinding. before, you had to pay like 10x as much mag for every point, so you ended up having to 100% fill your mag for a single enhancement point while the rest of your team was waaaay more enhanced. now afaik your limit = the highest number of points you've put on a single character
on that note, look at it. it's beautiful.
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>>50825438
If I enhance my pixie 10 points worth, I get 10 points worth of free enhancements on MC. If I then enhance ratatoskr-chan 11 points worth, I get 1 more free enhancement on MC. At least I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
>Bro, at one point, you just have to stop Mag Enhancing.
yeah, but the issue is your softcap for mag enhancing on MC was like half that on your other characters. now you get to match your roster's highest level of magic enhancement on MC for free.
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>>50825445
basically you will be rewarded if you stick with a demon on your team (because their magic enhancements will accumulate) rather than being a whore who constantly swaps them out. but as far as i can tell it's a straight up buff for the MC.actually i don't know what happens to mag enhancement points if you use the demon for fusing. does it just get wasted?
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>>50825459
That assumes that A, you are playing a class that can have skill cards used, and B there is actually something you want to card over. RIP to summoners and experts I guess. Huge buff to tuner though since you can put all your mag towards mantras.
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>>50825463
Summoners used to have 8 skill slots(was changed when they added emulators), they can still learn passives after all. In fact that's part of summoner MC's gimmick where you learned free passives for getting enough demons of various races to fall.
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>>50825516
>Kuda-gitsune are one of the lowliest, most vulgar foxes.
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>>50825562
So they come as an extra combo!
This is of course on top of the mandatory Yukari and Chen package.
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>>50825586
>no more stats for ending points, instead you get incenses
>no more able to make non-combatant into what you want
>Haru's songs has been nerfed
>Shoggoth being too nerfed
>F K Lancelot doesn't have a portrait set
>Reimu's portraits are too brown
>Tatsuya's TS portrait are weirdly cute
>Rin doesn't have portrait for Ereshkigal or Ishtar
>did you get that only first four were serious?
Did I forget anything?
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>>50825735
There's a bug when you want to decide which kind of Devil Hunter you want, the balanced or not balanced.
Having checked the Mag Enhancement, I do not understand for the MC, I do not understand how it is supposed to work.
Isn't Jashin supposed to have a powerful unique skills?
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>Isn't Jashin supposed to have a powerful unique skills?
That's a mod. Same with Hoshigami.
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Also. I'm just now realizing that my Jashin mod is broken. Looks like some of the specifications for how cstr skills work changed? In any case this should fix it. It won't fix an already existing jashin but this should fix any future copies.
mediafire com file w9qph8shf6eccel Eramegaten_jashin_mod.rar file
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>>50825423
>atm not a single character aside from MC has gotten 1 point of mag. but i should be able to get a decentish amount on whoever i train.
Have you considered investing in tentacles?
By setting up Tentacle Energy and Biofuels (TM) you too can fill up the pink bars of anyone in your roster without needing to have them fuck or fight anyone. All you require to get your new venture going is Forbidden Knowledge and Tentacle Summoning from the special section of the training item menu, then learn the Technique from your local Junk Shop!
Then go out and Violate or Frenzy some poor unlucky bastard and the friendly specialists at Tentacle Energy and Biofuels (TM) will install your very own Tentacle Lab!
Now all you need to do is raise up your Tentacle Level and charge it up with environmentally-conscious energy and you too can give delicious MAG to people! Enjoy your newfound freedom.
Tentacle Energy and Biofuels (TM) is not responsible for any fatalities, bleeding orifices, druggings, impregnations, sex cults, or sudden desires that may result from improper use of tentacles. For best results, stick with using renewable demons when gathering energy. Involving magical girls in the process may void the warranty.
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I think this is one of the best equipment set for female humans. You just need to give her "Mind Nullification" to protect from Mind's status effect. "Nerve Nullification" isn't needed on her because she nullifies Nerve's attack.
Now I will show you how to get those equipment:
Headgear: "Otter Hat" is from "Yang Yang Palace" for 1000 macca.
Armor: "Crimson Armor" prevents instant skill and it's a level 50 armor from "Junk Shop".
Armwear: "Lauren Ring" is a level 40 arm armor from "Junk shop".
Footwear: "Jibanium Legs" is a level 65 foot armor from "Junk Shop".
Accessory: "Supple Ring" is a level 1 accessory from "Junk Shop".
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>Anora
>An assistant to the commander of the Jet Black Troops, a unit under the direct command of the Emperor of the Valganian Empire.
>It seems that he was a member of the defunct royal family.
>After the destruction of their homeland, they roamed the battlefield as spiritual weapons (Wraith Units).
>He is good at infiltration, disruption, and covert operations due to his possession of the brainwashing tactician ``Formal Attire of the Jet Black Banquet.''
>Currently, for some reason, they have left their original world and come to this world.
Is this due to some kind of mistake, or is this also part of the strategy?
>She'll never reveal it.
>One thing I can tell you is that she doesn't like you and doesn't seem to have forgotten her ex.
Holy ntr kek!
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LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i sorta fucked up because i didn't realize yukari wasn't a virgin, but she was constantly teetering on the edge of hate mark 3 through anal sex anyway so maybe it didn't matter insofar as vaginal training goes. either way she was probably my best choice. high level, good innate abilities, good talents, and got good abilities from her fusion materials (succubus & divine throne, both native to tartarus). very happy to have broken 100k macca though.
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>>50827078
>very happy to have broken 100k macca though.
Great! Enjoy it while it lasts, the Demand mechanic will cut the sale price of any Yukaris you sell in the future. Hence, you'll need to sell other species of demons if you want more lump sums of Macca.
Consider raising up some Whores to fill your Brothel with, so the flow of Macca will only increase over time. Certain demons are, naturally, better for this than others.
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So tldr check luck at the Hakurei shrine via the box before trying to forage dragon blood / peaches?
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>>50824953
Imagine relying on something as unreliable as luck for your good fortune.
Couldn't be me.
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>>50827386
Reimu is for taming and playing with. Not playing as.
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>>50827372
>I'm playing as Reimu which is also maybe why I'm missing the pray for child option at shrines.
That's entirely unrelated. Pregnancy prayers are available for any character with [Love] who isn't already pregnant.
>Funny enough I also can't do logging at Hakurei Shrine bc I need more Reimu rep.
Guess I should take a look at that one, though honestly, playing as existing characters is a waste of time since it blocks like, 95+% of dialogues.
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>>50827409
I feel like the only character that would really fuck up your game is playing as Eiren
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>Guess I should take a look at that one, though honestly, playing as existing characters is a waste of time since it blocks like, 95+% of dialogues.
Oh shit I didn't know that, but then I know almost nothing outside of having already gotten all 13 races and high / max skills.
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fun fact: there are 5 adept classes which give your MC talents that AFAIK they can't get elsewhere, and these can accumulate through NG+
Miko: [Devoted]
Witch: [Treatment]
Idol: [Charming]
Detective: [Captivating]
Boxer: [Self-Control]
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>>50828061
you have to pick the NG+ option that's something like "Inherit Master's talents".
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>>50828067
idk the exact mechanics of it myself but whenever you train a girl and expend their stamina, you always end up recovering some afterwards. could in theory be useful if you're going for one of those hundreds-of-falls titles.
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>>50828074
It's medical knowledge of a doctor to know how to make training less taxing on the mental and physical health.
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You can get "Mana Aid" from "Kurama Tengu", a level 48 yoma. He learns it at level 55.
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I don't like Dante and Vergil's portraits. They look like the netflix adaptation.
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And you can get "Light Mana Aid" from "Hua Po", a level 7 Brute. She learns it at level 25 and also learns Dodge at level 28.
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>Playing RanceK
>My faction had decided to ally with Rance's faction
>Jump into a dungeon, run into Rance
>Fight Rance who has a party that included an exact clone of me, even though I was in my own dungeon party
Funny glitch, but that's a dangerous future prospectas a FeMC
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Gear is a placeholder and I'm gotta replace invigorate with charge booster but it's coming along.
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>>50828315
King of Kings!It's wild how Lucifer has a skill named after Jesus.It's also wild that we don't have a Neutral Gun.
A bit sad how useless gear is when you are Devil Shifter/Outsider/Avatar Tuner, except for accs.
Superbosses be sweating!Can't wait for Sabbath Drain to be on an accessory.
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eraRanceK maintainer anon, it looks like there's some missing stuff in the Sexual Demands part of asking for a Ceasefire. There's no such problem when you 'Discuss [Pleasure]' though, they all fire properly. Though Rance's Imperial Juice doesn't 'carry over' when you send someone to give him a blowjob or get fucked by him through the Diplomacy screen, so you can't use it as a way to keep Rance in your good books while pushing the characters' level cap.
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>>50828347
Oh yeah, I should also add that if the ruler demands for their feet to be licked in return for a Ceasefire, perhaps because of that bug in the last game window, but it doesn't take away First Kiss for doing so.
First Kiss/Vaginal/Anal still works as normal when you 'Discuss [Pleasure]', and while it's probably normal (Toho)K behaviour, they're just as happy to have 'Grouo Sex' with their solders with who you send even if they're virgin. You'd think they'd have to run a check or be sufficiently slutty themselves to let it happen to them, too. Just Lia things, I suppose.
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I find it funny that Sinful Shell has a mp cost of 100 MP; when the maximum power is apparently 740, for a base power of 500.
I know the point of it is being a Pierce/Dark/Almighty+Dekunda that does more damage the more buff the foe has, but man, you really need to make sure the thing is used at the perfect time for only 740?
Demi-Fiend's Freikugel mog that shit out. Or one single hit from Metatron's Fire of Sinai for that matter.
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I'm not sure what to think of Haru's nerfed skills. On one hand, it's a bit of a no fun allowed kind of move, on the other hand, we go from +9 for 120mp to +2 for 30mp. It kind of sound like a good trade off? I dunno.
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>>50828550
Sugoi has better offline translation than slumming it with atlas. But if you are just using it as a front end for google or deepl or something then you are really just dealing with UI differences. Personally my favorite frontend for translators these days is luna.
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been there done that
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>if you sleep with Urumi she gives you a nursing handjob when you wake up
Big cow milkers.....
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The first youkai I ever saw looked like a blend between a girl and an aligator, no tits, extremely evil looking grin, and it telepathically made it clear to me it was going to make me suffer in the most extreme way I could imagine (which it could know by probing my mind). So it wasn't as romantic as I expected.
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>>50825139
>SMTImagine picture
Guess it's time to load up the private server for some nostalgia time. Thanks anon.
>>50825298
I've also never really like this.
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Ah yes, bringing a 13 years old girl to a human farm where deminandi fuck people women to make more deminandi because she wanted Yakiniku.
Completely normal. Even more normal to look at a video of it in front of her.
Sometime, this is too funny!
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the NG+ option which lets you retain your society contribution level is a fucking SCAM
>you don't get +comp from contributing in NG+ unless you go up a tier
>events are based off contribution, not tier, so you need to contribute a bunch to unlock events and requests anyway
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I let the time progress so the fairy and the girl you rescue could be transformed more
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>>50829416
The only universally good thing about that is the ending point you can get from it.
>>50829697
The only real thing you get from it is being able to buy the high-level equipment from the shops.
Which, uh, isn't that much of a boon when you're paying ending points to keep all your gear anyway.
A better investment would be contracting your trained idols before starting a new cycle so they can start making money for you right away and contribution levels are not an issue.
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This new dungeon is pretty neat and useful to put the sheer number of YGO characters in. Maybe they should mention it's a YGO dungeon with no endings related to it?
Hot take, but I never found Dark Magician Girl to be that hot, or even hot.
>mister human
>isn't a human
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>>50830072
I find it funny that they ended up adding so many yugioh cards to rags that they had to separate them out and put them in a dungeon instead. Not that I'm complaining since Traptrix and Sky Strikers are two of my favorite decks.
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PSA: Deity Okina is one of the better idols AND one of the better whores you can recruit in large amounts, due to all the talents and singing experience she starts with. For all you bean counters who like to squeeze as much Yen and Macca out of your characters as you can every workday, she's great.
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Don't worry then, to be truly accurate to the card it'll just instantly kill anything that isn't immune.
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>>50830281
There is also Ty-phon too.
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>>50830308
Specifically designed to say NO to Zeus!
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>>50830320
Yeah. And a few others.
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>>50830519
I'm being real fucking hopeful for something
its nice people like it but megaten does absolutely nothing for me, blueresort has the depth of a puddle, rance is half in gookrunes,and TW hasn't seen anything meaningful in months
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>>50829728
If you're a true min-maxer and looking to knock out as many Endings as you can in your first run, you really want to start the Kikue rescue quest ASAP and let more than 35 days pass by so that she turns into a Queen Nandi. 35+ days is more than enough to get Unmatched and Ladykiller as well, which is required for the Kikue Moo Moo Moo Ending.
I'm pretty sure Kikue in all her forms (normal Shifter, mad half-robot form, Queen Nandi form) all share the same CharID, so you can only pick one of them to go with. So if you have no intention of carrying Queen Nandi into future runs and rather wanted to bring humanoid-looking Kikue instead, you'd want to do it this way so that you don't have to delete Kikue along the way to be able to get the Queen Nandi version.
... Actually, does it let you complete the Kikue Moo Moo Moo Ending even if you already have a Contracted Kikue and for that cycle, left her to get turned into a Nandi? Or would the choice to fuck her Queen Nandi form and bringer her home be locked out, thus stopping you from the Kikue Moo Moo Moo Ending?
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>>50830594
Sugoi with the Google Translation is funny when Korean shows up in RanceK. Sugoi is clearly made to show Japanese only and the Copy to Clipboard function doesn't work with Korean, so whenever Korean text shows up it's being translated on Sugoi as 'I want to know, I want to know, let me see, I want to know' like as if it's self-aware and wishes to learn Korean to understand it
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>>50830609
As a Devil Shifter? There are many better options than her from a practical point of view. She is cute though, and is often used more as a gateway to meeting the Chaos Hero prior to the Basilica and getting the Factory Raid quest for various characters (including a certain EX 'demon').
Half-mad Kikue? She pretty much turns into a Terminator (the Messiah kind) in her mad revenge against the Messiah for doing what they've done to her. I think she's pretty much just a standard Terminator in that sense.
Queen Nandi Kikue? I assume she's better than your standard Demi-Nandi, but that's about it, maybe. If you love fucking cows, she's the best.
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That's what I though. She only seems to be useful to get to the Basilica, and meet the Chaos Hero, and Lilith. Koshiro is better than her, that's saying something.By the way, Koshiro got great portraits now.
It's funny how it goes nowhere otherwise.
>Half-mad Kikue? She pretty much turns into a Terminator (the Messiah kind) in her mad revenge against the Messiah for doing what they've done to her. I think she's pretty much just a standard Terminator in that sense.
I didn't knew that. Oldschool Law SMT is peak after all.
>Queen Nandi Kikue? I assume she's better than your standard Demi-Nandi, but that's about it, maybe. If you love fucking cows, she's the best.
Ah yes. My favorite past time. Fucking a woman that was transformed into a cow so she could be used as food. I love fucking food. Especially alive. Dumbledore said with no sarcasm whatsoever.
>including a certain EX 'demon'
Still weirded out by that. Or that there isn't otherHelltakergirls.
Lucifer would probably look at you and go WTF harder than yellow michael jackson.
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Should be real easy with Tensei-P. If you turn on Untrained Fall, characters can get both Trust and Affection Fall at the same time. The Affection Fall part is real as well, because if you chose to Train them when they have both, their 'love for you overcomes their friendzone and they embrace it' or something, losing the Trust Fall but keeping the Affection Fall.
With Untrained Fall, you can even hit 2nd Tier Trust Fall while maintaining 1st Tier Affection Fall, and all the multiplier bonuses from Trust Fall stacks with those from Affection Fall. This mostly have impact on Restaurant and Concert work, because:
- Restaurant Work: Hitting an Untrained Fall automatically gives Obedience 3 for free, which makes them eligible for Restaurant work. Normally requires (Obedience + Service + Cooking) = 6 points to work in a Restaurant, but achieving Affection Fall reduces the points requirement to 3 points and Love (2nd Tier) makes it 0 points. But because Untrained Fall gives Obedience 3 for free, that's automatically 3 points gained, and because of Affection Fall reducing the requirement to 3 points, that makes them automatically eligible for Restaurant work
-Concert: To make up for that you can't Train Trust Fall characters, Trust (1st) provides +1 points while Sworn Friend (2nd) provides +2 points in terms for 'eligibility to be an Idol' (you need 5 points total). So just having Sworn Friend can be enough to make someone eligible for being an Idol. Not only that, Trust/Affection gives +100% income multiplier, while Sworn Friend/Love gives +200%. Both of these stack, I'm pretty sure, so you actually get more from a Sworn Friend who have hidden Affections for (You) than one or the other.
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Considering that Kikue can actually undergo that whole process, I'm assuming that she is a rather special Devil Shifter in the TRPG she is from. After all, eraMegaten kind of describes her transformation process more of a double effect of her being a Devil Shifter and her brainwashing - she is made to think that she is a cow (Nandi) for breeding so hard that it triggers her Devil Shifter powers to start permanently transforming her into a Nandi herself. Given the premise of her story as we could see in eraMegaten, maybe she's supposed to have a Koshiro-styled transformation/upgrade with her Devil Shifter powers as the native Japanese gods/goddesses are freed and channeled through Kikue as a Shrine Maiden. But it's been forever since the author was last seen and probably much fewer who even knows the TRPG that Kikue is from to even get started on reviving her quest chain for eraMegaten.
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>>50830667
>maybe she's supposed to have a Koshiro-styled transformation/upgrade with her Devil Shifter powers as the native Japanese gods/goddesses are freed and channeled through Kikue as a Shrine Maiden. But it's been forever since the author was last seen and probably much fewer who even knows the TRPG that Kikue is from to even get started on reviving her quest chain for eraMegaten
The pain of not having the writers since how many decades but not having it finished. Fuck.
At least Night Tale was finished. The TRPG is some forbidden hidden knowledge goodies.
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>>50830667
yeah, figures that untrained fall takes it from an at best ~40 day endeavor to a 1 day if you grind enough. still possible by just grinding out 25 [Whore]s (iirc 2nd fall state counts for double) or probably 25 [Love]s.
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>>50830667
You know what's funny? Me wanting a debug command to automatize the training stuff, because FUCK that. And me for being such a completist little shit.
I hate myself sometime. EVERY CHARACTERS I LIKE MUST HAVE EVERY FALL STATE EVENTUALLY.
>maybe she's supposed to have a Koshiro-styled transformation/upgrade with her Devil Shifter powers as the native Japanese gods/goddesses are freed and channeled through Kikue as a Shrine Maiden
...Does Japan have cow themed deity? Buddha-Mythra is a thing but...
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>>50830629
>Regarding half-mad Kikue
You can get half-mad Kikue if you rescued her after she's been taken to the Demi-Nandi Breeding Farm but before she's gone through the full transformation. While the brainwashing had done a number on her, she still clung to sanity(?) with thoughts of revenge against the Messians for burning the forest her Sect lived in and such. However, she had already partially turned into a Nandi with her Devil Shifter powers ruined as a consequence, so she asks (You) to let her Sect (the quest giver guy) know that she's dead while asking (You) to remove her Nandi'd parts of her body and a means of achieving her revenge. I think she even picks out the Terminator fit so that she can be the ironic Messian Terminator that kills Messians without mercy. She pretty much becomes D/C and also gets [Insane], amongst other things, so she becomes extra useless for anything else but combat.
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So no sprites unfortunately. Understandable though.
>I now want FOE in the game.
EVEN IN ERA
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>>50830698
We need more FOE. There's some Etrian classes as extra characters, right? Some madman should just bring over EO1's maps. Like this one.
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>>50830703
I'm surprised we don't have an Etrian Odyssey map that is basically the reverse of the first game actually.Going from Tokyo to the forest or somth.
But the classes suuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
>pic
This remind me how much things escalated between the first game and the second one. Or the first one and everything else.
You were a shitty team,the final boss was a transformed tree, the bonus boss was just a dryad, oh and you left the town dead since the main point of the town was the dungeon. You discovered the secrets of the words, and some genocide.
Next game, theSKY, WISHES, DRAGONS.Third game?ABYSS. ELDRITCH. ROBOTS. DRAGONS. LITERAL FUCKING CTHULHU AS THE BONUS BOSS. THE DUNGEON IS LITERALLY HIS TENTACLES YOU THINK IT'S A JUNGLE.
JESUUUUUUS.
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>>50830720
Going in reverse would be a pretty cool idea, though the map arrangement would take a lot of work to figure out.
Maybe using 2 as a base would be a better idea, since you can start at a city and climb up, finding a floating castle, instead of somehow getting into the ruins of Shinjuku when you go deep enough.
>Or the first one and everything else.
Yeah, and then in 4 you fightthe tree meant to cleanse the world of impurity, and the superboss is the failsafe meant to destroy the tree. You win since Fortress/Dancer exists and can carry a team through anything.
And 5 ison Mars. The post-game superboss is a planetary destroyer. You beat it because 5's classes are absurdly fucking broken.
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Correct. The problem would be that you go from insantely complicated maps, to insanely simple maps. The whiplash would be too much if not done well. Taking 2 is also a good idea, but you'll have to explain to me why no one, in the whole Eraworld decided to just, look up and get in there. 3 would perhaps be better, since at least there's a justification.It's a hole in the ground around the Indian ocean, literally no one would, no matter how supernatural would find it.
I would change those classes though. I swear I would.
...Man imagine someone determined enough to do the stratums in one, single, go.
>spoiler
The big jokeother than 4's superboss NOT doing it's job kay thanks bro, and that it's a giant bug,is that you are also given a mean to nerf them. Oh and it's apparently inAustralia.The bigger joke that is also nice, is that 5 is implied to be prequel to 1. The biggerest jokes is that the normal final dungeon is a futuristic nature reserve, the final boss is a literal polution eating dragon, and the bonus dungeon is SPACE BRIDGE.
In this game you go fromForest > Desert > Giant Graveyard > Ice Cave > Futuristic Nature Reserve > GIANT SPACE BRIDGEI can't even.
I miss Etrian Odyssey. I'm happy that we got a last game. That I haven't finished yet.
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>but you'll have to explain to me why no one, in the whole Eraworld decided to just, look up and get in there.
The freaky deer scared everyone off. For whatever reason everyone is morbidly afraid of those fucking deer. There's also the option of having the appearance of the dungeon be a sudden, recent incident and you're the vanguard.
>I would change those classes though. I swear I would.
How flexible is the equipment menu? If someone could be given multiple weapons, 4kat Masurao could be implemented, complete with Hell Slash.
>I'm happy that we got a last game.
Next Stage eventually. Ignore the fact that we're approaching 8 years since the announcement with zero news.
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>>50830743
no it feels like that even while playing it a majority of the time.
trying to keep track of one of literal dozens of plotlines is an exercise in schizophrenia. it's kind of like octopath traveler but with 60 different characters, where you typically do the first chapter of every character before moving onto the 2nd chapter for every character. and a third of those characters are in JP, and another third of those characters are from ultrahyperniche discontinued boardgames that were only on shelves in a few japanese prefectures for 7 non-consecutive months in 1989.
if you play enough times, you eventually go, "fuck it, fine, i'll read lone marebito so I can kinda know what the fuck's going on for this specific event chain", get back to eramegaten, and then say "why the FUCK is nagi rape route not translated"
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>>50830743
There's a game called Black Souls.
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>"why the FUCK is nagi rape route not translated"
Replace it with WHY THE FUCK AREN'T THINGS NOT TRANSLATED.
BUT ESPECIALLY THIS ROUTE.
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>>50830749
>The freaky deer scared everyone off
An archangel would look at it and go 'in the name of the lord: lol lmao even'
Meanwhile, the dumb characters from Untold just want to eat it.
>How flexible is the equipment menu?
Not much? There's a reason why DMC characters can't change weapons after all. ...Right?
What is really bothering me is stuff like Wildling having nothing BUT Havoc skills. Or Arbalist skills not having pierce somehow. Farmer being also extremely useless.
>4kat Masurao
It's just that good. Once you go Samurai/Ronin, you will never go back.
>Next Stage eventually. Ignore the fact that we're approaching 8 years since the announcement with zero news.
Fuck I came. Fuck I feel old.
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>>50830801
If I'm playing a crossover game I want crossovers. It's that simple. We need more, not less.
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>>50830781
The deer scare people because they're just normal(?) animals, but for some reason are incredibly aggressive and stupidly tough. No supernatural stuff, just wildlife that's incredibly determined to maul passerby.
>What is really bothering me is stuff like Wildling having nothing BUT Havoc skills. Or Arbalist skills not having pierce somehow. Farmer being also extremely useless.
At least that stuff is somewhat easily adjustable. I do wonder what the idea was originally though.
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>Mayone: I got a job from you, it's really stupid niche stuff in the middle of india, some deers are causing a ruckus: no one knows why
>don't expect anything weird or whatever, just find what is happening
>end up fighting literal cthulhu after encountering robots made by a magic tree, eldritch creatures, and literally a princess who has eaten eldritch flesh
I can buy that. I would buy that.
>At least that stuff is somewhat easily adjustable. I do wonder what the idea was originally though
It's not like I can't understand the need for things to not be OP. If you don't regulate things, classes like Hoplite or Prince/ss can break everything in half. There's a reason why people pick the tank class when trying to do solo runs.
It doesn't help that EO3 is the first game to really go deep into the 'one class can actually do two things' on top of being the first game to do that tiny thing calledsubclasses.
But they are just so weak, I don't understand.
At least, there's a reason as to why Zodiac doesn't have Prophecies, or for Meteor to do what it does.For the matter, I fully expect revisited classes to have things like X Boost skills.Probably unpopular opinion.
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Simply put, it's better to design things a bit undertuned and maybe adjust them upwards later than make them overpowered, fuck up balance for everything else, and either have to nerf them or kick off a powercreep arms race. As long as things are functional it's good enough. Nerfing things later feels awful.
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>What is really bothering me is stuff like Wildling having nothing BUT Havoc skills. Or Arbalist skills not having pierce somehow. Farmer being also extremely useless.
At least not all of the Etrian classes in eramegaten are completely worthless. Defensive Sovereign's Guard Order and barriers, for instance.
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Retain society contribution let you buy the highest items in Junk Shop. The comp upgrade lets you HAVE 24 DEMONS in your comp and it's kept if you retain society contribution. You can also go to dungeon 3 times even on the first day. But you need to pay 1.500.000 to get some endings and 3.500.000 for executive ending and access to both Shinagawa and "Tokyo Destiny Land".
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>>50830597
Unfortunately I'm not a min-maxer. I didn't really play that much eramega despite wanting to, I got four or five endings but only two of them were dungeon stories. Honestly the game is really overwhelming with how many options there are for the game + training. That one is partly on me for not just focusing on what was straight forward though.
I do keep meaning to go back to the game because I've played through most megaten games including the various spin off series (although I bounced off of the Persona games from 3 onwards) and this one is far better than it has any right to be.
Something I've been wanting to do is properly commit to a play through and take notes to make a fairly simple beginners guide. Really basic stuff like "oh this dungeon has X and Y that can merge into Z who has good elements for the next dungeon where enemies are weak to Ice" for example. The jap wiki had some stuff like this for the early dungeons but it was very incomplete. I've been putting this off for years though so maybe they've filled it out since I last looked.
Also I have no idea what half of the EX shit is in any of these games.
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>>50831028
Our banes: Lack of translations or contents.
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>>50831000
Not that anon, but I've been playing eraMegaten for a long time as well, even before Tensei-P came to exist, but I haven't completed every route/Ending, either. And that is purely due to one reason - I refuse to complete them.
For instance, I can't bring myself to turn Koshiro into a whore just for the Whore of Babylon 666 Ending, nor do I want to let Kikue turn into a cow. For that matter, I still haven't actually gotten the Trainer Endings either, because I can't bring myself to turn the characters into Slaves or Whores - not even Mayone. Never sold a slave, never used the Brothel, not even to whore my Public Toilet MC. The only Pasts my Contracted characters will have is Past: Trust and Past: Love.
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>>50831099
Anon, you must become like me, Anon. You must start to enter the meta play, Anon. You must buy every items ever, Anon. You must recruits everything ever, Anon. You must have every Fall states on at least your favorite 100 characters. You must optimize everything, Anon. Anon. Anon anonaonoanoanoanaonaoa.
>I can't bring myself to turn Koshiro into a whore just for the Whore of Babylon 666 Ending
Still weirded out by that ending. A bit disappointed that she didn't get a form or a special skill.
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https://seesaawiki.jp/eramegaten_another/d/%a5%c4%a1%bc%a5%eb%a4%ce%c6 %b3%c6%fe
Good translated that, and go under 'development'.
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>>50831099
I was wary of playing eramegaten cuz I've always been a vanillafag but the fact that you were able to enjoy it that way means I have a chance. though I probably should ask anyway, did you enjoy it even if you didn't do everything?
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>>50831634
nta but my party is entirely composed of human girls who fully trusts me as a close friend, which you get by battling against enemies together instead of mindbreaking rape slavery
you don't even have to engage with the demon summoning mechanics
still sucks that you can't have regular sex with the girls or have them ask/nightcrawl you out first, but giving "sexual training" with someone that is already affectionate with you as a friend beforehand is a different scenario than just doing it to every random girl or demon on the street you happen to fancy
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>>50831651
The dialogues can make it fun, but otherwise it's just annoying. Literally would prefer to cheat or debug.
I know it's something that some people actively enjoy, but I just can't.
>>50831667
>but giving "sexual training" with someone that is already affectionate with you as a friend beforehand is a different scenario than just doing it to every random girl or demon on the street you happen to fancy
Yeah. If the girls has a Fall State trust, the dialogues make it less like training, and more like normal sex. It can be kawaii as fuck.
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>>50831667
I see. seems like I really should try it out then. it's funny really, I started with Elona and wanted more lovey dovey. ended up in TW and thought it was too SOL. I'll try out eramega next then. any tips? I know the wiki is there but it seems to be absurdly outdated. also, is there really no dl link that doesn't involve signing in? I have a gitgud account but I'd rather not use it.
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>>50831700
Elona, perhaps even more autistic. But finished.
>is there really no dl link that doesn't involve signing in? I have a gitgud account but I'd rather not use it.
Sadly, no. I gave up on not making an account.
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>>50831700
use the japanese wiki, machine translation is good enough for most of it
https://seesaawiki.jp/eramegaten_another/
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>>50831705
thanks
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not a problem. firefox has a built in translator and it seems to work fine. the grammar is awkward but I find it endearing lmao
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>>50831700
i was new to persona/smt when I played eramegaten, the hardest thing to wrap my head around was fusion. hopefully the guide on the EN wiki helps with it.
https://wiki.eragames.rip/index.php/EraMegaten#Basic_Fusion_Guide
it's recentish, but still before the move to P, so here are tips & outdated things:
males & females can fuse now, because the devs remembered that this is in fact a lewd game. the resulting fusion's gender will be based off the *first* material used. i.e male+female=male, female+male=female.
for finding a character's actual race, i prefer to just use the EN demon list page. it's been fixed so you don't have to fucking expand every single race category and can just ctrl+f without the hassle.
touhou mod has been fixed and is largely free of inconsistent bullshit and works properly with elementals now
harajuku having a terminal doesn't matter anymore since you can exit/re-enter dungeons infinitely.
i typically do echo building first, since it doesn't have nightmares (troublesome day 1 enemy) and unlocks a bunch of stuff.
Picrel is a fusion chart for echo building, with elementals highlighted.
don't fall for the memesters telling you to start with devil summoner. start with adept. WAY easier to get a handle on the game's mechanics because it's so basic and similar to 90% of the other characters in the game. just be sure you select summoner level 1 as one of your skills in character creation. it doesn't really matter which classes you pick as adept; just decide what kind of role you want your MC to be. support, physical damage, or magical damage. any screwups you make at character creation as an adept is fairly easy to fix.
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thanks a lot
>fusion
not an issue. I've played SMT, Persona and DeSu (DeSu 1 and 2 are the only ones I ever actually completed tho, dropped the others at some point)
>what kind of role you want your MC
is eramega also a World of STR? based from what I've read so far in these threads tho, AGI and END seems to be the meta picks. personally I've always preferred having the MC as the greedy damage dealer. other party mems are for buffs/debuffs while the MC charges and nukes things
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https://wiki.eragames.rip/index.php/EraMegaten/Skills
regarding skills, start with this page and just ctrl+f "kaja" and "unda". buffs are king in SMT. Dekaja and Dekunda are to counter enemy buffs/debuffs. If you use demons with useful skills in battle, you can extract those skills from them and put them on other characters, including humans, including (You) if you're an adept or something similar.
other useful skills, an early easy demon you can get them from (their race), that demon's starting level, the level that demon gets the skill at ;; and what that skill does.
recarm, heqet (lady) 13->.15 ;; revive allies in battle
amrita, caladrius (flight) 22-> 24 ;; cures all ailments in party
endure, nemuno (touhou, brute) 20->22 ;; auto-revive once per battle when HP reaches 0
mana bonus, kikimora (brute) 12->16 ;; increases max MP
invigorate (s), Konohana Sakuya (megami), 33 ;; restores MP per turn. you normally can't restore MP without (limited) items, so this is essential.
traesto, heqet (lady), 13->14 ;; immediately leave dungeon
liftoma, buraq (beast), 22->23 ;; protects party from traps (the map kind)
lightoma, hare of inaba (beast) 27->29 ;; pokemon's flash HM
lots of skills can evolve into better skills. recarm revives some hp, samarecarm revives all hp. dia, which does light healing to one ally (and is everywhere), evolves into media, which does light healing to all allies, or diarahan, which fully heals all allies. exception: invigorate (s) can't evolve into invigorate (l) because the devs hate you personally.
>how do I distribute stats?
picrel is how i ratio them depending on the character's role.
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>>50832705
Nta, but it's just that you can pour so many point into Ag that your characters end up dodging everything. And it's also important to pour points into it anyway so that your characters doesn't miss, and trust me, you will feel it.
Era is definitely World of STR, not that you don't want to have mages or support. But that's for later, more serious playthroughs. I suggest you go Summoner Gunslinger.
>DeSu 1 and 2 are the only ones I ever actually completed tho, dropped the others at some point
If you completed those games, you should feel familiar to it then. Don't trust Dances unless it's against bosses, you are in a game where you can en up with up to 10 foes.
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>is eramega also a World of STR?
i don't think so. AGI max i'm pretty sure is at least partially for gunslingers under the presumption they have a tons of different elemental ammos letting them hit whatever the enemy's weakness is or whatever they're not immune to. you want your support units to be faster than everyone else, so I always have it as 2nd highest stat for magical/physical units, who are my real damage dealers. gunslingers use agility directly in their damage calculation though.
endgame, short of specific characters with specific exclusives: power charge/concentrate boost the next physical/magical attack. charge/concentrate booster are passives that increase the effect of power charge/concentrate. every element has an extreme-damaging attack which, when charged/concentrated, bypasses resistances, assuming the character has proficiency in that element.
the issue is that getting these extreme-damaging, resistance-bypassing skills is that the main way to get them is through the junk shop's gacha, which is obscenely expensive and time-consuming.
and, of course, there is JUNKO. Holy strike? Junko. Ragnarok? Junko. Megido? Junko. Almighty proficiency? Junko. Almighty basic attacks? Junko. Almighty RESISTANCE? Junko. Overall best resistances? Junko. Fix any demon with Junko. Put Junko skills on anyone. Train Junko. Grind Junko. Breed Junko, and produce an army of half-demon Junkolings.
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>>50832739
>oh god it's her again. does she completely outclass Idun here too?
I recognize this. This is the mating call of someone who felt deeply cucked by Atlus replacing Idunn by a shitty japanese version.
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Junko is a special case to be fair.
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>>50832739
there's a handful of demon evolutions. desu, i don't really like them because they reset your stat distributions.
https://seesaawiki.jp/eramegaten_another/d/%b0%ad%cb%e2%ca%d1%b0%db
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>>50832733
never really liked Almighty. I prefer hitting weaknesses, or even just crits. Press Turn is like crack to me
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>Summoner Gunslinger
do I really have to have some sort of summoner? is playing unga bunga not viable at all or just suboptimal? I'm fine with suboptimal. and it's not like I'm planning on playing without a summoner DeSu has great girls (2 in particular with the hag trifecta) and I don't like duplicate roles so I'd rather have one of them as the summoner
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>have a tons of different elemental ammos
how does ammo work? is it bring as much as you can and the issue is buying/crafting them or are you limited in how many you can bring like Monster Hunter or something?
>>50832743
>I recognize this.
it's part of the reason why I dropped VV
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>>50832757
>do I really have to have some sort of summoner? is playing unga bunga not viable at all or just suboptimal? I'm fine with suboptimal. and it's not like I'm planning on playing without a summoner DeSu has great girls (2 in particular with the hag trifecta) and I don't like duplicate roles so I'd rather have one of them as the summoner
No no, you can be what you want, in fact the best classes are unga bunaga, it's just that playing summoner is the suggested class to take in a first playthrough.
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>>50832757
applications, which offer a whole bunch of benefits, require a certain amount of summoner skill in your party. the vast majority of what you want only requires summoner level 1 though. for instance, the application which prevents fusion accidents and the application which prevents ambushes/back attacks require summoner level 1.
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i disagree thoroughly and entirely with a new player starting out with summoner. it's mechanics are very different from the vast majority of characters you'll use in game, right down to the way stats affect their battle ability. adepts are the most basic class and it's generally easy to fix any screwups you make with them.
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another reason for adept; it gets skillcards which facilitate unga bunga without fiddling with ammo and items which is basically the opposite of unga bunga. the biggest block against pure unga-bunga is that (You) can't normally get Pierce, the passive which lets you bypass resistances, afaik. there are skillcards (such as those in RAGS shop, picrel) which do lower damage and pierce resistance. but you'll still need invigorate and MP to maintain its use.
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>>50832787
unless this pic is outdated, boxer shouldn't have that issue no? or does Strike Break not affect Null/Absorb/Reflect? even then, Almighty/Phys should go through most things
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>>50832802
insofar as dealing with hordes of trash mooks with physical resistances, break resistance skills work (i think? some skills only go up to null iirc), and aren't all that hard to get, they're just kinda tedious in practice. you have to actually use the skill, get attacked for a turn, and then switch to whatever resistance you've broken. almighty definitely works, but the rags pierce skills are a big easier to get than holy dance/ragnarok imo. it matters most with really fucking big dungeons like cathedral, where you really don't want to put more effort into [a] Auto for a fight you're gonna do a hundred times and don't want to give enemies 100 extra turns to attack you.
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With worth noting dilettante also gets a way around resistances(liver taboo), although that recently was changed from breaking resists before damage to just piercing. But yeah, stuff like holy strike and similar are the default for physical.
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actually, gunman gets [Pierce]! neat.
i still think boxer, witch, magician, and (armchair) detective are the best adept classes for a new player though. it doesn't help that the game is so fucking stingy with talent capacity.
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>>50832763
You definitely need A summoner though.
I'm pretty sure at 0 total party summoner levels you can't even see resistances even if you've fully analyzed the demon already.
I think that's kinda silly. Let the people run 6 human teams without having to nerf the MC with taking summoner level 1. Losing access to hyakutaro or whatever is an interesting trade off but forcing me to have 1k plus resistances memorized is too much for me personally.
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>>50833017
Yeah, you kind of HAVE to either take summoner levels or have one on-hand at all times to make battles go smoothly, otherwise you're stuck having to memorize weaknesses/resists and keeping Sabbatma unironicallyPersonally I would like it if there was a proper event chain to get Summoner talent at a decent LVL3, but pretty sure the P devs would likely shart themselves at the thought of non-summoners getting the ability to do, like, the bare minimum with their COMP.
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>>50833026
>otherwise you're stuck having to memorize weaknesses/resists
i thought it'd be fine enough if it was just all-human party & no apps but yeah, that's definitely dogshit.
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Like, yes, there's nothing they would bring to the table unless you just make stuff up for them but still.
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>>50831099
Based. Definitely not meta, but based. More players should be like you.
>>50831667
>still sucks that you can't have regular sex with the girls
Turn Dungeon Sex on and have them initiate sex with the MC while on the Sea Ark or something. Doesn't violate Trust or gives them Hate Marks or anything. Still need to watch out for sudden pregnancies, though.
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>almighty definitely works
Do what I do and get a dedicated item vendor mage after going into New Game Plus. The Gleam Grenade from the special items option is basically infinite free mini-Megidos and you can begin tossing them right at the start of the cycle with anyone with even one level of Tool Knowledge, though dedicated item builds will do the most damage with it obviously.
>>50833026
Is there a way for the MC to get Summoner if they don't start with it?
>>50832726
>Era is definitely World of STR
I like Gunslinger for physical builds since it lets you double-dip roles with Intelligence and Agility. It's a highly efficient use of your stats that makes any human with Gunslinger (or even most Machine Maidens) more than pull their weight in combat while not being squishy to boot.
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Maybe the ultra high end builds are biased towards strength for the almighty attacks that can crit and the multi-element stuff, but I think for most players most of the time Magic is way, way stronger and more convenient.
Just having two or three different even non-almighty attacks means you're basically never totally cucked like physical characters can be, since it's extremely common for something that resists one physical element to resist all of them.
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>>50833279
Yeah, for the most part it's honestly not to big a gap. Plus magic has a hell of a lot easier time mobbing with easy access to megido and the like(AOE physical skills tend to get fucked by resists and almighty AOEs/true piercing effects are rare).
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>>50833305
Plus Magic is a god stat comparatively. A strength character needs strength for the actual damage, agility to hit, luck for crits, and even needs some magic for mp to use their skills at all.
A magic character just needs magic.
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>>50833316
I'd argue that STR is a better stat. It gives enough HP that you don't need much END investment and you only need the barest amount of luck if you are doing a third eye build(otherwise you ignore it completely). Otherwise it's STR and Agility all the way down. MP is taken care of with skills. Meanwhile a magic character needs magic for damage, a bit of int for accuracy, agility for action speed and evasion, and endurance for HP.
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>>50833323
I just don't agree that you can say Strength is better because if you have [three or four necessary skills to make up for its deficits] it doesn't have downsides.
What magic offers is convivence. Most magic characters will work out of the box, zero skill card investment much better than physical characters outside of the way overtuned ones.
Does that make magic BETTER? That's clearly debatable. But this is something that goes back to the "are charge moves worth it" school of thought in that more than raw numbers and hypothetical maxed out builds will exist for most of your play time.
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>>50833329
I'm only talking about the stat itself, not really the builds. As a stat STR is better. Builds muddy things and heavily depend on the stage of the game and characters involved. Especially if you are factoring in things like necessary investment(for instance tuners are perfect example, high ceiling but frankly unreasonable investment without mucking around in the files and using the cheat plugins).
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"Strength or Magic?"
Guns. Only needs Intelligence and Agility, with enough hard levelup points into Endurance to equip the heavy machineguns. Dovetails nicely with support characters (who have enough MP to burn), Persona Users who can afford to put extra points into Strength or Magic from Persona levelups for whatever their Persona uses (not to mention the Machine Maiden gynoids), Avatar Tuners who can simply redistribute their points into whatever their demon form wants, and of course item vendor mages.
Having a string of Almighty/Weakness crits is not an issue for Gunslingers if you want to wreck bosses - all you need is Bright/Dark Might learned and start the fight during the Full/New Moon, or set up Shock/Freeze.
And since you can carry 999 rounds of each special ammo type with you into dungeons, let alone all the guns that do elemental AoEs, you will not have problems keeping up your DPS. Well, assuming you're not nuking with magic, but nuking mobs is what magic is best at.
No other talent in the game does what Gunslinger offers. There's a reason why it's one of the most expensive talents.
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>>50833365
The actual good boolets are too expensive for NG. It's basically strictly a NG+ affair. You aren't walking around mag dumping almighty shells without tons of macca to burn and even lesser boolets can eat up your yen pretty fast if you aren't conserving them. And if you aren't using boolets then gunslinger might as well not exist. I'd go so far as to say for NG skipping it entirely and just going for one of the higher end guns raw is a better option. Also, successor dunks on guns in the endgame so hard it's not even funny(and can actually be built on NG reasonably easily). World of STR.
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>You aren't walking around mag dumping almighty shells without tons of macca to burn and even lesser boolets can eat up your yen pretty fast if you aren't conserving them.
Why are you wasting the good bullets on mob trash? Wiping encounters with AoE blasts is what the heavy explosive guns are for, if for some reason you're not using magic/Gleam Grenades to clean up mobs instead.
The level 2 bullets from the Junk Shop is all you need for the vast majority of boss fights in the game. You can carry 999 rounds of each. You will not run out in a boss fight, or even a string of back-to-back boss fights.
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>Also, successor dunks on guns in the endgame so hard it's not even funny
There's a reason I recommend sticking with the heavy machineguns for DPS, and it's because the bonus damage from Intelligence and Agility is applied to each bullet you fire. Don't be fooled by the low attack power rating compared to other gun types. More shots fired per round also increases the chance of applying status effects to an enemy, too.
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>>50833365
In my original playthrough I straight up could not afford the best guns before getting forced into the new game plus through the executive ending.
Since a fresh run is basically the only time the game is actually hard outside of the occasional superboss, guns aren't that good for the time period you would need them to be good.
Well, not good might be an exaggeration, but they aren't boss destroyer dps monsters.
But honestly I think thatthe game is designed so any build can became overpowered by design because it is a fanservice porn game and not a seriously balanced commercial product.
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Two reasons:
First, every single gun the Junk Shop sells that hits the entire enemy party at once, and is therefore the better ones to destroy mob encounters with, requires Gunslinger level 3 anyway if they're not compatible with Machine Maidens instead.
Second, I didn't say not to use special bullets period. I said that bosses, being the enemies who deserve the extra damage, are the ones you should be using the special ammos on.
In other words, you use the grenade launchers and laser saturation beams and other big booms while exploring the dungeon, then switch to the heavy machineguns with special ammo when it's time to fight a boss.
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>>50833026
No Summoner levels? Can't see what enemies are weak to? No problems here at all, because outside of very, very specific enemies (mostly bosses with gimmicks), Megido(an) solves everything in one or two goes
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>>50833605
>Megido(an) solves everything in one or two goes
That is true. If you start the If storyline, you will get some VERY good spellcasters, who can not only target weaknesses, but also get Megido.
My first party was MC Summoner, Mari, Yumi, Reiko.
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Those Japanese bastards took away my snitty waifu's portrait.
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>>50833750
The one you are using?That is an english portrait.Good taste in demons though. I've liked her since SJ, had one that had a mutation chain and learned jihad around the first ouroboros fight, needless to say I got a lot of mileage out of her.
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>>50833793
Yeah they do but... I forgot which one was the optimal 'choice' so to speak. Do I reset just the relationship? The EXP too?I'm so fucking tired of training, I just want to cheat like a motherfucker.
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>>50833780
he constantly gets his own ass handed to him by his own children
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do slave first, because totalsens<10 will block them from getting it without a total reset. afterwards, probably love, because abnormal exp will similarly block them. if you do that, i think you can just pick 'reset all sex experience' both times, since that erases abnormal exp and climax exp (which would otherwise cause lewd/whore).
presuming that you already have whore (or lover with totalsens>10) you need to get rid of all training attributes.
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Hm, got it. I feel like I want to cheat so utterly now.
>Do Slave first
Fuck. I did love and whore first. GAAAAAAAH. Save me from this nightmare.
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>>50833840
Just get their stamina up and spam spanking + breast spanking. It gets everything done pretty fast aside from the negative dependency. It will take a few sessions but it's not to bad. Put a handful of points into breast sensitivity and raise their maso stat until they start cumming from it.
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>>50833843
I need all of the Fall state for the Tai set and Resistances. And the completionism, to have titles and shit.
I hate my life. Mods. Devs. Add debug commands in the training minigame and I will literally give you my first child!I will never have childrens.
>>50833846
It is, in fact, that bad.
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>>50833846
the issue is he has to completely reset his contracted characters, because submissive is impossible with more than 10 total sensitivity.
and you need sensitivity for masochism and cumming in general. it's just poorly designed.
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>>50833847
Naw, you are limited by the negative dependency more than the actual exp or stress, those two aren't hard to deal with at all. It's still the slowest but as long as you aren't doing the harder play options it's not hard at all.
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>>50833853
Even if you did slave first you have a fuck huge dependency hole to dig yourself out of to hit love. Resetting their exp is the most efficient way regardless. The only one that you can really do without resets is pivoting to whore.
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>>50833862
Slave is what? -3k? And then you need another 2k to hit love? Just reset that shit. It's faster to start from zero. Especially since that's the best case scenario and it's entirely possible that you are even deeper if you kept training a slave after hitting a fall state.
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>>50833869
yeah, it's something you're probably gonna do for love anyway. really easy to set up a macro for. kiss is very low stamina/willpower usage. 10 kisses for 200 willpower. 6000 willpower, 300 kisses. not including stamina. more than plenty. it'll cost you probably [one] training session, which is far more efficient than all the stuff you'd lose from a full reset.
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Funny thing: they added a feature. Hovering on the titles tell you how to get them. The punchline being thatthey aren't translated.
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>check jewel trader
>check extra category
>literal fishes and marine mammals
???
were they made by the guy who did that dungeon where a girl gets raped by a dolphin
also people were mentionning garren earlier and now i found there's a guy who added Libra from nightreign and ONLY Libra, what the hell
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Fish, beetles..
You know, one very early trick was to get the girl pregnant by the dolphin so you could have a kid that OP.
>Libra
Some people latched onto her for some reason. I mean, we got the fucking Argonian Maid for some ungodly reason.
>Normal people: would want Marika, Malenia, Ranni, the Recluse
>ShinEra people: LIBRA
ShinEra devs are built weirdly I guess.
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Reminder that Dolphins are sexual predators.
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>>50833899
I wanna complain how Tiki (#FE) is buried deep in the ex characters menu but Featuring Dante From Devil May Cry is just base game now.
She's like an actual megaten character, even if it is from the weird fire emblem crossover.
Tokyo Mirage Sessions is a hell of a lot more SMT than it is FE, I'll tell you that much.
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>>50833899
There's also Fulghor but yeah, Libra's the standout one. There's a lot of odd one-off examples and misc characters, and a couple of odd exclusives like the Demon Goldfish and whatnot, as well as third party extras like Mira from Anomaly Collapse, Fitzcarraldo, Rebecca and Lucy from Edgerunners, Motor Yabu, etc.
Personally? I'm not complaining, goat sexo for both dick, ass and/or booba depending on the mood.
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>>50833920
Look, if being a good game was a requirement to feature the cast list would be a lot smaller than it is.
I'm just saying she should be in the normal Rag shop.
Hell, she even has unique mechanics! Like anyone with meter gain they kinda suck, but they're there!
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>>50833923
Cope and seethe. It's why we still don't have anything 4A related! Ahaha! I made myself sad!
At least we don't have Soul Hacker 2... but I would take more storlines as long as they are good.
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>I'm just saying she should be in the normal Rag shop.
>Hell, she even has unique mechanics! Like anyone with meter gain they kinda suck, but they're there!
Honetly that's true. Tiki does deserve to be in there, even if her gauge thing kind of suck.
It really depend, but meters are a 50/50 thing. They either suck or are good.Which is why DMC and Revue are peak, but the rest isn't.
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>you have to play Night Tale and then bring along a side character from that to even get Gotou
>and then if you beat the Madoka route and have Homura, you can get either one or the other of Homura or Gotou's strongest unique moves
Why would they make it like that.
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>>50833954
What make it seems large is how often you are stopped in the dungeon, and outside from it, to get everything.
>>50833972
Good question. It doesn't help that Gotou and his move are kind of shitty.
Meanwhile Homura (And Homura) is probably one of the best demons ever, to the point she had to be nerfed in SOME capacity.
>>50833993
Probably because they assume the average japanese player would at least be 10x more autistic than the guy who want every single fall state and every titles.
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>>50833997
I suppose if you're autistically contracting every single unique character you'd eventually fulfil the conditions on accident...although personally I just asssumed that you couldn't get Gotou until I started checking the wiki, seeing as cooperating with him gets you someone else and the other option was killing him.
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Homura(normal) hasn't really ever been good. It's glasses Homura and devil Homura that were good and nerfed. In the former's case it was more they nerfed equipment knowledge and pierce so you couldn't use her to pass them around to everyone and in the latter's case they nerfed a special skill that could get down to zero MP.
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>>50834004
Gotou is in the same school of bullshit as Kikue forma de la Moo Moo. He also has special dialogues if you turn him into a girl or something?
>>50834010
Homura has Tool Knowledge 3, Gunslinger 3 and Equipment Knowledge 4. And in glass's case, yeah, can't pass Pierce anymore to everyone.
I however didn't knew that Devil Homura was nerfed.
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>>50834032
Yeah, Homura U-U has Equipment Knowledge, but it's at Lv1, she also has Tool Knowledge, but it's at 1.
She also has Pierce.
It's a bit funny how most Meguka are a bit mid, and Homura came in with her large cock.
>>50834037
I'm not calling a die hard nationalistic idiot SMT's maniliest man.Even if he is actually SMT's manliest man.
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>>50834058
Oh he was. But I'm taking it as YHVH and Thormanwho is totally not Thor why would you think thatand I say that despite being surprised by this twist decades ago.having infiltrated the US, instead of whatever, the devs were trying to say.
He was partially right... for the wrong reason I guess?
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>>50833780
Without knowing how it's coded, I think (You)r willingness to Teach others is based off two things: Primarily your Talents, and (You)r Relation to that character. Though (You)r Relation to that character is influenced by your Talents in terms of gains and such, I suppose.
I've never had issues when trying to get my custom characters with <Impassive> and stuff like <Quiet> and <Docile> to Teach someone almost regardless of how well they knew that person (it was a character I was headcanoning as your anime expressionless sniper girl who doesn't care about her appearance) but it was almost always 'Neutral' to doing so, so it mainly depended on the mood of the other person. On the other hand, in my current as an actual Rance character, Mix Tor, she's pretty much Hostile to being taught by almost everyone, and is Hostile to teaching almost anyone either. She was only willing to be taught or to teach her fellow half-siblings, who I made all appear in the Sengoku FFA scenario and did a bunch of dungeons with them. She refused to be taught or to teach even her own dad Rance, and some kind-looking pink hair lady who's always at his side (I was originally going to play as El, but for some reason both El and Dark Rance start out as Wanderers in that scenario and cannot be added into Rance's faction at game start without using the DEBUG menu). I feel like for Mix Tor specifically, the presence of <Tsundere> is probably making it extra hard for her to accept teaching anyone or being taught when combined with her other traditionally 'troublesome' Training Talents. As a side note, I ended up picking Mix Tor because of all of Rance's children, she alone has two character-specific Events for her. While I'm not too sure about the first Event, given that the second Event is literally 'Mix played by bandits' (Sugoi Translation), they're both probably Special Faction related. Not even El has any to her name.
On a related note, when it comes to how much EXP is gained from being taught, it feels like there are three factors - two major and one more minor factor. Going in reverse, these seem to be:
- Minor Factor: Difference in ability between Teacher and Student
- 1st Major Factor: Whether there is a common Skill Level between Teacher and Student (e.g. 'Sword Combat Lv0-3')
-2nd Major Factor: Mood of Teacher and Student (Neutral -> Friendly -> Eager)
For the Minor Factor, it makes sense. Can't teach well to someone who knows more than you. The 1st Major Factor though makes a huge difference as to whether you get anywhere from 1-20 EXP at all, with anything more than just 1 EXP requiring both Teacher and Student to be Friendly or Eager with each other (2nd Major Factor). If there is a common Skill Level between them at all, the EXP gain can be even over 1k EXP in one teaching session if the stars align and the Teacher and Student are not only Eager but there's a huge difference in ability between them. There are a lot of characters who don't even have a Skill Level, but I'm pretty sure there are hidden 'exp bars' for those Skill Levels if the Teacher has one to provide. For instance, for the custom 'sniper girl' character I mentioned earlier, she ended up picking up Sword Combat from repeated teaching sessions where she previously did not have any Skill Level in it. It probably does require the Teacher to 'use' that Skill Level during that teaching session for 'exp' to be gained.
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>>50836026
in my experience there's only a few characters who are so awfully prudish that it's easier to just blast through the hate marks with overwhelming rape. getting hatemarks vs. not getting hatemarks can be from any number of small things. aphrodisiac, one too many vibrators, not having quite enough obedience/desire, being futa and ejaculating, going for anal/vaginal penetration too soon instead of sticking with foot/blowjob, not having enough desire/submission/etc when trying to penetrate. often times it's just doing something else to prevent a 4x orgasm.
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>>50836707
TOO BAD
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>>50836743
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>>50836185
I wonder what is used when it comes to Rance and his 'Rance targets loli yes/no' question for Rival Settings. Does it look at whether they have a Child/Petite Body Build and just go off that?
Would make most sense if it did, because Mix Tou for example doesn't have 'child talents' like <Child's Body> or <Child's Mind>, but when Rance targets her for any daily events, it's always non-sexual. Unless there's something hardcoded into Rance that makes him never start sexual relations with any of his children to make it more canon to Rance's strongly non-incest ways. Even Miki or the Four Holy Monster Gals if they're in Child form is ignored in the same way; whenever Rance tries to nightcrawl them, he's always rebutted.
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>>50836784
I was playing as Mix Tou, actually. So unless I go futa, if I was to follow canon, it'd be a Rangi or (male) El end as the only real choices. Though in Era terms, I had Zance be her Attack/Defend instructor and Sushinu her Magic instructor as they had compatible Skill Levels and were much better at the related subjects than Mix herself.Even then, in the Sengoku FFA Scenario, Mix would've been kept virgin to the end if it wasn't for the Vigilante Kidnapping event triggering on her. Good thing I was able to escape right after the event, so she didn't have to go through the whole 'training'.
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>>50836815
Wasn't anything interesting, really. Rance's starting position in the Sengoku FFA means he can easily push south then east without any trouble, since he starts on the western end of the map with only one way in and out. If Xavier was in, he'd serve as a potential roadblock because he has Invincibility Field and the AI can often send in armies without Field Breakers to fight (e.g. Rance himself here). I actually wanted to play as Female El, but El in the Sengoku FFA scenario starts out as a Wanderer, while in the Great War Scenario El always starts out as Male El for some reason (unless whether El is male or female depends on whether (You) are male or female? You can't pick whether you want El to be male or female there). The Whale Scenario can let you pick whether you want Male or Female El, but I preferred the more chaotic Great War Scenario (also coupled with that you need to let one turn of Nightmare pass in the Whale Scenario so that Rance starts with 150k troops instead of 15k troops, unless you manual control and dump your earnings into the Treasury to buy soldiers like a 3D printer).
The starting point for Rance in the Sengoku FFA also makes it a popular spot for Special Factions to spawn in when you've conquered up to halfway up the map - which again, because it's a small narrow 'corridor' and it only takes the two top-left bases usually, you could easily deal with it by immediately sending soldiers onto it.Though because I had underestimated them and the soldiers were tied up fighting at the time, the Tentacles at Strength 4 managed to take a city and catch Almond Sharp, so she got poked for a little while before she was rescued. My bad, but she's otherwise fine and managed to avoid tentacle impregnation or being turned into a seedbed, and with the powers of NG+ options, this was all 'forgotten' anyway
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>>50836927
Hell naw, Rance got standards.
>>50836931
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>>50836927
Speaking of Mix and Miracle, the 'Black Witch Wants a Maid' event can trigger on Mix. I never accepted it, but I wonder if whoever wrote that event even took into consideration the existence of Mix and change the dialogue for it to match it better (e.g. Miracle once again getting Mix caught up in her antiques as her daughter instead of being treated as a complete stranger who fell for such an obvious trap)
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>>50825194
as promised i have turned the hollow knight into a splendid whore with big fucking honkers
33 macca will be earned for today
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>>50837016
>splendid whore
There is a Megami called Tlazolteotl who is the literal goddess of sex and degeneracy
She comes with a bunch of sex experience out of the box, even
You should probably fuse some talents into her first if you're gonna make her whore for you
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>>50837093
What's the point if I can't sew lethal doses of heroin contained in nearly bursting condoms(as thin as I can get, because otherwise it cuts into my margins) into her womb and use her as a mule to cross between tokyo and makai?
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>>50837899
What do you mean by Drawing Interface?
>>50838199
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>>50838221
the explanation says:
>Additionally, it's advised to change the drawing interface to "TextRenderer"
also, this game is very rude. tutorial gave me a shotgun. went back to the dungeon again the level up my party and ended up wiping turn 1 to a row of Preta's that had Reflect Pierce.
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>>50838234
I... have no idea what this is? I think it's the fonts? If it's the font, you need picrel and to go into Settings.
>also, this game is very rude. tutorial gave me a shotgun. went back to the dungeon again the level up my party and ended up wiping turn 1 to a row of Preta's that had Reflect Pierce.
Welcome to the SMT experience.
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>>50837401
Tactical Demonica gives you immunity to every ailments, 50% resistance to every elements except Nerve, Mind, Light and Dark, which are 100%. Humans do keep their immunity to Light.
Tai Set gives the character stupidly high stats, Spring of Life, Spring of Mana, Equipment Knowledge Lv5, and Enduring Soul. If modified by the Dward Smith they lose their their skills. And 50% resistance to every elements except Earth, Wind, Gravity, and Almight, which stay at 100%. Immunity to Ailments except Poison, Bomb, and Flame.
What did they smoke, I have no idea.
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>>50838294
To be fair, Tai requires multiple NG+s and fall states to maximize and has copies gated by conception items while the demonica only needs a bit of money and tentacle training. It's an order of magnitude more work and frankly by the time you have NG+ed that much you probably don't need it.
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Tactical Demonica need an obscene amount ot Tentacle EXP for the character to not be instantly paralyzed, on top of Sex in Dungeon, on top of needing to get off regularly or else they'll be HAPPY, which is tiring after a while.
And Tai set os also, hilariously, stupidly tiring, right at the start.
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>>50838321
The point is you can conceivably take advantage of the demonica when it's still useful if you put effort into doing so while the Tai set doesn't really become an option until you are already overpowered. That said, if I'm being real just using normal armor mixes is probably the actual meta strat considering effort vs reward ratios. Even if you won't resist basically everything you can easily achieve good enough status with the junk shop alone.
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>>50838337
Tactile Demonica is very good for the MC early on, when there's basically no penalty for cranking up the MC's Tentacle Addict and the MC is the one who generally needs to be tanky regardless of anything else since even if you have the Death March app to prevent Game Overs from the MC dying, your MC is going to be one of your most useful party members.
Tactile Demonicas also mean you don't need to earn multiple fall states for your variable-resistance humans to benefit from its resistances and status protections. Hell, even fixed-resistance humans still enjoy the Demonica's status and instant-death immunities. All you need is to first get whatever fall state you want on him or her then crank up their Tentacle Addict through training. Much easier than juggling fall state requirements through multiple New Game Pluses.
If the Dungeon Sex bothers you... turn it off whenever you're farming a dungeon and don't need to be protected from everything. Dungeon exploration and boss/event fights are when you'd need the protections the most anyway.
And last but not least... a mere half a million for TEN of them every NG+ cycle is cheap for what you get. Everyone you'd want to use can wear one.
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i beat law of cycles on kyuubey's route, unlocked kriemhild and law of cycles, but failed to get an ending. did i do a fucky wucky
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>>50839731
ah, i see. i misread it as just being a run-ending end. how silly of me, thank you for your observation, anon.
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>I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS I HATE NON-ADDITIONAL ENDINGS
Valid crash out. Same here!
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>>50839734
At least if you plan for it, you could get certain stuff done with that particular Ending. For instance, just for Titles (which is purely cosmetic), when it came to getting the Restaurant and Idol Endings, I went with Tourist and Takeshi(are you proud, mama? I became a real idol!)in those runs. They both also has the No Additional Ending requirement as well as the Forced NG+ thing, but since those endings didn't require jumping into a dungeon at all, the downsides of being a Tourist or Takeshi was pretty much ignored.
You could plan a similar thing with the Kyuubey Ending. I think for that one I started out as a former Public Toilet.
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>>50839749
I'm pretty sure there is a title for starting as one, though. Of course, the only problem is that if you wanted to do away with your 'public toilet' experience you've 'gained', you have to reset your sexual experience.
... Which also resets your Cooking and Singing exp/levels, so you start from 0 again with those, too, because they are part of a character's 'sexual experience'.
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>>50839764
Oh, it goes into the Global Save thing as well? I thought they were strictly by character and that only the Endings were using the Global Save thing.
Though I guess it does make sense, considering that some of the titles require you to amass certain amounts of cash and/or fame and such that would require laser focus precision to achieve within 50 days.
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i think it's a global-by-character situation. the same whatever that counts your number of NG+s. the most annoying one is definitely the one that requires being a virgin (male & female) in endless mode, since there's really no way around that without resetting sexual experience.
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>>50839777
Virgin runs are no problem for me, because I never Train anyone anyway. Most of my NG+ characters are still off only Past:Trust and nothing else; the only time I actually did start Training people was when the EX character Yomi that was stuck in a tentacle dimension as a monster breeding factory for an indeterminate amount of time required you to bring her to a Fall State in order to make her useful (she starts out with a special Talent that makes her unusable for combat or labor until you do so), so even though it took an extra long time compared to the other options (she was literally one step away from going Lewd), I turned her into my wife instead via Affection Fall. That run I also impregnated the two Tojiko no Miko girls as well because their Individual Events required a degree of Training done, if I remember right (or at least one of them), making them both my wives as well. I think I also made Leviathan who showed up in human form (via her Individual Event) also my wife soon after impregnating her, too.
That said, I don't remember if being a Futa allowed you to get the titles for both female and male virginity being maintained, or if it required an actual male as opposed to 'a female with a dick'. Or if staying virgin as a Futa was a title all in itself and pure female/male were separate.
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So what is this girl's deal?According to the wiki, if you train her she can become something specialkind of like Kaya, but Google Translate doesn't do a good job at telling me.
If you are curious, I kept Kaya as Human, because she got Unique Dialogues only as a human.
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I have a terrible habit of trying to make every single female character that shows up a temporary employee so that I can then later grind their affection in the dungeons to turn them into permanent employees, before pushing them into the residential area. But I tend to not matchmake any of them at all but go for a huge love harem instead, which while it's fine, is actually detrimental to the earning of ZP. It's also more of if the girls get too lewd, it ends up becoming like playing 'mid-late game TW', where I end up having sex all day instead because everyone's trying to come after me.
While I could just simply turn on the random matchmaking mode to 'fix' this, I feel like I want control over it still. Do you guys matchmake the characters yourselves in this instance, or just let the random matchmaker do it for you? On the JP side of things, I did read that some people enjoyed doing the whole 'lesbians getting dicked' thing, by making yuri relationships and then being the dick in between.
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If you take her down a fall state(maybe just love? Never tried the others) she has several class options, I don't think any of them were particularly impressive but like a lot of the night tail cast its neat all the same. Don't think it alters dialogue either unlike with kaya
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I normally pick one theme (like only girls from a series, or only draphs, etc...) and do a NG+ from my main save so I don't have to worry about earlygame money and rings. I directly invite the girls I want to my resort and progress through the first two dungeons as well as the dungeon that unlocks the hot springs while raising my affection with the girls. Once I unlock the hot springs, I upgrade it to the max so the girls don't have a trash stamina regen between days. Once I reach that point I usually get bored of that theme and return to square one. I've sometimes done this with a single girl instead of a theme and did a solo run of the dungeons, which was kinda fun.
As for the "mid-late game TW" state that's something that's bound to happen sooner or later, but then again there's almost nothing to do in the resort but to go fucking everyone, since once you max the four bars of affection for any girl there's nothing much to do with her except grinding her max. stamina.
An alternative for passive ZP is to have staffed restaurants in the port area or giving some girls the "Casual Sex" trait, but once you get a couple or three girls developed ZP stops being a corncern.
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>>50841021
I cheat ZP and my own stats, then I let random advertisement bring girls in because I don't know much about Granblue outside of porn
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>>50841428
terminals are T icons on the map.
traesto is the escape dungeon spell
the earliest i think you can get it is from a heqet (level 13 lady) and leveling it up to 14.
unless you're not on P for some reason and are playing a very old version, you can also just leave the dungeon for free and come back. most dungeons are okay with that.
>>50841452
objectively better.
>>50841551
if you muck around in the csv files, or read the how to build your own waifu guide, you can learn how to build your own waifu, and the rags shop is the most convenient way to actually get them into your possession.
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>the most annoying one is definitely the one that requires being a virgin (male & female) in endless mode, since there's really no way around that without resetting sexual experience.
What about starting a fresh new file and doing your virgin runs there?
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>Of course, the only problem is that if you wanted to do away with your 'public toilet' experience you've 'gained', you have to reset your sexual experience.
Is there, like any real reason to do that ever?
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>>50841707
Yes, but it's not like you have to work the Restaurant for Macca. A Lewd/Whore MC should be turning tricks in the Brothel, where they'll make more dosh.
The only reason a Lewd/Whore MC would be flipping burgers is to earn Loyalty from a ton of non-combatant characters at once, and even then only until they reach Bond.
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>>50841707
it's -60% for [Whore], which is a lot, but hardly insurmountable. all your other experiences that you're getting rid of will surely more than make up for it. and if you're the type to never want your character to be whoring themselves out in the first place, they won't get [lewd], since it requires prostitution/toilet exp regardless of everything else.
obedience, technique, servicing, sex addict, vsensitivity, desire, exhibitionism, masochism, and sadism, all things which you probably normally get while undergoing whorification, boost your cooking earnings.
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>>50841655
>objectively better.
That's a shame, I can't run it due to having no access to later .net versions. I can get most games like blue resort to work with a few edits but it looks completely entrenched in shin.
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It shifts some calculations like Obedience/Lust gem requirements, visitation rates, and sexy panty decision rate, but it's mostly a prerequisite for marriage and one of the options for concubines.
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>>50842058
No. But number go up.
Plus, it was mostly just side effects due to how the original functionality was programmed, but it's still a neat little bonus that sets them apart, even if virtually no-one will ever notice.
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>>50841733
I still think MC should have unique Fall States. This is just retarded to have one single Fall state that penalize them.
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>>50842075
my K mc is always the youkai of rape who conquers the world through rape and whose superpower is rape and that's mostly how i envision my eramegaten mc too. you can even get the [Youkai] trait as MC.
>>50842093
it's not a penalty if you're a whore in what is, believe it or not, a porn game. if anything, [submissive] is the penalty because you can't upgrade it to [slave].
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>>50842098
>it's not a penalty if you're a whore in what is, believe it or not, a porn game
A porn game where the porn game take a backseat. And again, penalize them.
>if anything, [submissive] is the penalty because you can't upgrade it to [slave].
Agreed to that though.
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>>50842103
you're only going to get [lewd] and [whore] if you actively choose to whore out your character though. you will never get it by accident through normal training of your characters, whether you're training [whore]s, [love]rs, or [slave]s. you can't even get it through character creation options. you have to SPECIFICALLY get 100 prostitute or toilet exp to get it.
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>>50842125
you mean you accidentally put them in the brothel? i'm sorry but that's just skill issue and user-end carelessness. working in restaurants doesn't give prostitution exp, it gives learning orbs and houswork/waiter exp.
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>>50842131
Of couse I didn't 'accidentally' put them, dumb-dumb. I just put them in, I didn't expect them to get a fucking fall state that handicap them on the long run. I didn't knew that at the time.
Otherwise, I would have expected them to get a fall stated while working at the Restaurant.
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>>50842137
if you put your character in the brothel, i simply have to assume you don't have a problem with making your character a whore. in which case, [whore] is a strict upgrade. and sending sending anyone, let alone your MC, to the restaurant instead of the brothel is a self-imposed penalty anyway. and again, you're certainly more than making up for the difference with other skills/talents you got from being a whore. for instance; obedience. afaik, your character does not normally get fear/submit orbs except through prostitution/toileting. roleplay around it if you don't want to reset your character. your character was a whore and transferred into being a lovey-dovey restaurant owner after getting knocked up a dozen times.
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>>50842164
+Up to 50%: Obedience, Technique, , Servicing, Sex Addict (Maxed at Lv10)
+Up to 25%: V Sensivity, Desire, Exhibitionism, Masochism, Sadism, Singing (Maxed at Lv10)
maxing out on any of these skills, which is completely necessary to max out your MC as a restaurant worker, is incompatible with the idea of an MC that isn't a huge fucking whore. i don't think you can even get fear/submit/surrender orbs without prostitution.
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>>50842194
i get it, i just don't agree. i think you make more macca as a fully trained whore, not less. there is a period when you've JUST become a whore where you make less, but you make up for it over time.
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>>50842215
i do agree that it'd be neat if there were 3 properly implemented fall talents for MC though, and it's dumb as hell that the whore character creation option doesn't give you [lewd] but [submissive], and that [submissive] can NEVER upgrade for MC.
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>>50842221
that'll be 5 macca.
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So in conclusion:
Whore is always good for the MC unless you're either going for the virgin cycle title (in which case you really should know what you're doing) or you're the type to self-insert into your MC as yourself and you can't stand the thought of being a dirty Whore.
In other words, you should welcome your new whorverlords.
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>>50842244
It's too late. The whores have infiltrated every level of society and penetrated all our secrets. Your doujins lied to you. The whores will inherit the earth and we can do nothing but watch and get fucked.
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>>50842214
Unless you like being in near perma Dark unless you keep throwing copious amounts of cash at the White Lily, I guess. One major advantage that Restaurant has over Brothel though is the ease of entry, especially if you have Untrained Fall on.
While it you may churn out about 5 whores per Turn, with a little bit of Isora grinding, you can turn out an unlimited number of Restaurant-ready workers within a single turn. Loyalty grinding is so easy in Tensei-P compared to the original eraMegaten that it's no longer a huge chore to do, either. No need to grind literal hundreds of thousands of Loyalty just because of huge Alignment differences (especially if same sex) - Tensei-P just made it require 10k Loyalty at least across the board, though about 15k-20k Loyalty to be safe for Affection (10k might just only get you Trust but not Affection as well).
That said, having so many Restaurant workers makes it impossible to do Naoya Route unless I stop having anyone work in the Restaurant. Naoya still gets incredibly mad at (You) for being a honest Restaurant owner (from all the +Light alignment gains per worker).
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>>50842258
picrelyou also lose/can't get your V sensitivity as a male. if you have V sensitivity, become a male, and become female again, it returns. you also can't have BL addiction as a female or lesbian addiction as a male.
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>>50842266
if you go down the whore route you probably can in fact afford to throw copius amounts of cash at white lily. whoring is significantly more rewarding than restaurant work, and even what little work it takes to get a restaurant worker going feels like a waste of time/effort relative to how little you get out of it.
like, sure, you HYPOTHETICALLY could get 50k macca in a day to match my one lackadaisical, lowish effort sale. but will you? is that even possible with the character limit?
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>>50842266
>While it you may churn out about 5 whores per Turn
Buy out the whores from Roppongi and let them make your Macca back over time. Easy. You can do this every cycle even.
>That said, having so many Restaurant workers makes it impossible to do Naoya Route unless I stop having anyone work in the Restaurant. Naoya still gets incredibly mad at (You) for being a honest Restaurant owner (from all the +Light alignment gains per worker).
Dump hundreds of thousands of yen into the Black Lily Chest. Problem solved.
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>>50842269
Why did you guys jump into the ass fucking.
One of them isn't like the others.
>>50842273
>spoiler
I noticed that! I've been wondering if that was a bug.
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>>50842266
>That said, having so many Restaurant workers makes it impossible to do Naoya Route unless I stop having anyone work in the Restaurant. Naoya still gets incredibly mad at (You) for being a honest Restaurant owner (from all the +Light alignment gains per worker).
Sometime, alignment requirements are silly.
>>50842281
Good luck for that after pouring hundreds of people in the restaurant.
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>>50842281
Depends on your playstyle, I guess. I don't have a full group of Housework 10 characters yet, nor have I Trained any of them, so their income is still relatively low compared to whoring where they'll get the relevant exp to level up from the actual work itself.
That said, I did have around 350 or so Restaurant workers (with about 100 or so of them Idol-capable) in my first cycle, so it's not like it was too bad. The main thing really is that because their Housework is so bad, they'll tank either or both their own and/or the Restaurant's Fame, so for a really long time they might only earn up to like 10 Macca per Turn on a good day (because they get bad rolls from bad Housework combined with negative Restaurant fame bringing only 1-4 customers per worker). That is still up to 10k Macca on a good day, alongside earnings from Idol work and Coal Mines.
Again though, this is entirely off gameplay where I never Train anyone at all, never sell anyone at all. I may be at Cycle 5 now for this time round (mainly due to being distracted by other Era games), but in my Income Report, Brothel Work, Public Toilet and Character Sales remain 0 yen/macca.
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>>50842299
I think you would need literal thousands of workers to match it, actually. How much are each of those restaurant workers even making?
Here's my results from 12 days of training 11 girls. For this game I wanted to make all of the 2hu tyrants into whores and sell them.
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>>50842304
Thousands? Hm, you can only have 500 characters iirc. I thought that around 100 were enough to shift your alignment.
>MVP: Remilia
That's not any weirder than Reimu working in there!I have no idea where to find the records.
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>>50842302
i respect the dedication to your playstyle, but my weakest, most time-consuming sale of a low level demon eclipsed the entirety of your efforts in probably 1/50th the amount of real life time. the best use case for restaurant or brothel work imo is where you want to reach day 800 for grinding skill card gacha (which i've done before to be totally fair). and i think both end-game restaurant/brothel workers earn ~150macca/day.
>>50842304 (me)
12 days of training 12 girls* my b. one of them i had to keep around a while longer to get [Mixing Knowledge]. and i still have 3 trainings on this day, so i could prooobably crack a million total. but i can also just make a million macca girl in a day if i wanted.
>>50842327
>[998] DemonTraining.exe
>[33] Check Reports
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For my moneymakers, not counting the whores which are a more case-by-case basis, I simply have those capable of doing Idol work do Idol work and have everyone else doing Restaurant.
The more Idols you have, and the more Stamina they have, the more money and gifts they rake in - and considering the gifts you get can include shit like incenses and Chakra items? They'll save you tons of Macca in the future.
>>50842302
The secret to having tons of Restaurant characters pulling in the big bucks and not tanking your Fame? Turns. Pass lots and lots of turns and let them level up. Then Contract them so you never have to do it again.
Having negative Restaurant fame is literally a skill issue. Let them train.
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>>50842348
Couldn't they just put in the main menu? No I'm not coping.
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>>50842375
Toilet is good, but Rental and Theater are jokes.
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>>50842356
Yeah? That's what I'm pretty much saying, though. Anyone can work in the Restaurant the moment they get Affection Fall from Untrained Fall (Affection Fall reduces points requirement for Restaurant to 3, achieving Trust and/or Affection Fall via Untrained Fall automatically awards Obedience 3 for free), so everyone I grinded via Untrained Fall started from Cooking 0 if they didn't have any levels in it previously. Yes, they will get better over a long period of time, but when you have 100+ people with Cooking 0 working in your Restaurant, it'll tank your Restaurant Fame like crazy. The amount of Learning Orbs they gain is pretty slow from Restaurant work as well, so my best Restaurant workers are actually also idols (because each successful performance at high Singing gives a ton of Learning Orbs).
>>50842375
Rental is a meme, it's not worth doing it. Even if you give your slaves Contraceptive Barriers, they'll sometimes return to you after the rental having being coerced into removing them by the person renting them out.
Public Toilet, on the other hand? Prints literal buckets of Macca, according to the JP side. Unlike Restaurant/Brothel work, the best toilets are Submissive ones, and those who have worked there for a really long time - their earnings are highly tied to their Public Toilet fame. But there's a trick to this - make it cheap to have sex with them, but charge a premium for creampies.
The report is from nearly 4 years ago now, but it should still work. Namely, you require at least two things for the Public Toilet: They should have 6000+ stamina to handle it (creampies eat a lot of Stamina), and they must have a vagina. Disable Oral and Anal services, keeping only Vaginal and Creampie. Then, depending on their skills and fame as a Public Toilet, set the cost of shoving a dick into the secret hole (Vaginal) to somewhere between 1-10 Macca per go, and... 100-500 Macca per Creampie. For comparison, the default prices for Vaginal and Creampies are 2 Macca and 4 Macca respectively. You want to shove your dick into that Public Toilet? Well, go ahead. It's practically free! But let loose inside? Well, well, well.
That said, you do need to make sure the price for Creampies is set right for the individual, or else more often than not the Public Toilet customer will decide it's better to stick it in but not do a Creampie. It's also something that will generate Macca for you only after continuously doing it for a bunch of NG+ runs, with (You) being the most profitable at it (because (You) alone don't have the 'less Labor income' penalty at the start of each NG+ until you get any Ending). According to the report author, after doing this for a few full cycles (50 Days back in the day; 50 Turns in Tensei-P), they started earning somewhere between 200k-300k Macca per day from their Public Toilets, and that's without being fully into it. If (You) are a good Public Toilet as mentioned, you can apparently easily earn six digit Macca within 10 turns. Of course, this means that it's best to make (You) start out as a Public Toilet, so that (You) start out with the [Submissive] Talent (which boosts Public Toilet income the most compared to all other Fall States).
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>>50842436
[Slave]s are best for brothel work too, it's just a pain in the ass relatively to train one. at least for impatient fucks like me.
>[Submissive] Talent (which boosts Public Toilet income the most compared to all other Fall States).
is that true? i thought both [Submissive] and [Whore] were +60.
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>>50842449
The report was from 4 years ago, so Public Toilets may have been changed since, but their recommendation was someone who is [Submissive]/[Slave] and has high Service and Semen Addict. Perhaps Submissive slaves are better than Lewd due to some other factors like Stamina usage? Though they do say that 'it's better to only use Submissive or Whore' characters there, and also says a few times in the report to use 'Submissive or Whore' characters for the Public Toilet, but in terms of 'Fall State rankings' they specifically wrote 'Submissive > Whore >> (everything else)' and also specifically stated that 'the best Public Toilet is a Submissive slave who is not a Male or Crossdressing Male, has sufficient Stamina (giving 6000 Stamina as a good baseline), and has high Obedience, Service and Semen Addict.
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>>50842510
Looking at DemonTraining.exe, I think the reason why the author states 'Submissive/Slave characters are better' is because for Submissive/Slave Fall characters it's much easier to raise their Obedience and Servicing skills, while for Lewd/Whore characters it's much easier to raise their Sensitivity, Lesbianism and BL (for comparison, for Affection/Love characters it's easier to raise Obedience, Servicing and Technique but probably not as easy as a Submissive/Slave character).
According to the report author, Technique, Sensitivity and Sex Addiction only relates to customer satisfaction and popularity, but doesn't do much for the actual income gained - this is mainly from Obedience, Servicing and Semen Addict. Makes sense, considering that while Toilet Popularity is good, the Public Toilet can only fit so many customers so at some point Popularity stops contributing at all (and instead becomes a detriment to less popular Public Toilets, as mentioned by another anon). So maximising income is best here.
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>Been a while, so look at Rag's Shop to see what's new
>Hel now has a portrait that's in HD
The jaggies... destroyed...
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I'm trying out [Slave] training now and it's not AS bad as I remember it being. maybe i've just gotten better as a rapemaster though. It's basically like Love where you need to grind negative dependency, but you can do the same thing as spamming kiss except with abuse.
it's still annoying as shit to not be able to [Auto-upgrade Abilities] though.
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>>50842850
nevermind masochism 5 sucks ASS. 5000 pain orbs is a fuckton of stamina/willpower.
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>>50842876
oooh, I think [Masochist] halves the cost. that's definitely goodish. the requirement for that's masochism 4 + 300 maso exp, which you want anyway for a [Slave].
>>50842887
the issue is stress. needle/whip (candle's probably better but i didn't have any) seems to be the most efficient for building pain orbs. but each training session leaves your girl totally drained, which requires healthiness medicine, which raises stress.
and then you need ANOTHER abuse-spam training section on top of it, since using someone as a literal human pincushion surprisingly doesn't decrease their dependency as much as you'd think it would. at least with [Love], kiss-spam simultaneously gave you both love exp and dependency.
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>>50843173
I tried the same training twice alternating between spanking/breast spanking and needle/whip. needle/whip got me to masochist 5, spanking didn't. it's kind of like how anal cowgirl/anal doggy style is an upgrade over footjob/blowjob, even if anal costs way more stamina/willpower. the main difference is that you need a L O T of stamina to reach the pain orb softcap.
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>>50842436
>Yes, they will get better over a long period of time, but when you have 100+ people with Cooking 0 working in your Restaurant, it'll tank your Restaurant Fame like crazy.
True.
However! Consider that if you are then Contracting your expert chefs and maids, as you should be if you're going through all the trouble to grind them up? The whole long period of time getting rid of their literal skill issue is something you only have to do once.
After that, you should have no problems keeping your Restaurant Fame up and the money rolling in. So, simply drag out your current cycle until you get said Fame to a positive value, preferably around 500-ish, and there you go.
>>50842436
>my best Restaurant workers are actually also idols
I don't consider idols to be Restaurant material for once reason: characters that already have a work assignment cannot do idol work. You have to cancel their assignment, go sing, then reassign them every single turn, and when you have hundreds of characters that's a shit ton of drudgery to go through.
Much simpler, and less risk of carpal tunnel, to keep work roles separate and have your chefs grind up the long way.
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>>50843247
>Contracting the workers
I did do that, though not for all the workers; only those that I really, really wanted. After all, by the end of that 1st cycle, I had so many characters doing Restaurant/Idol work that I was almost always 5 characters away from hitting the Char Limit. I actually went all the way to Turn 49 as well that time, deliberately delaying finishing that run to do misc stuff. My Restaurant Fame is in high positives now, and I've even gotten the Restaurant (and Idol) Fame Endings (on Tourist and Takeshi respectively). Though because of that, they were pretty much less than 10 turns to achieve, so I didn't wring it out as long as I could have for those.
And yes, I cancelled labor for my Idol Restaurant workers so that they can do Idol work. I actually put their name and position number in a notepad so that instead of doing Cancel All, I just have to manually cancel about 100 or so Restaurant workers. At least now you can do 'Process all Concerts' instead of having to do them one at a time like in the days of eraMegaten, but that's what I did. But because of that, I have Singing 10 Restaurant workers who, from their Idol work, also have Technique 10 and nearly Cooking 10 (Cooking not yet maxed only because timegated by Cooking Exp; I still refuse to Train them to boost them to Cooking 10 right away).
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>>50841143
Night Tail is peak. A bit annoying that eveything is powercreeped, but still peak. Outsiders musn't have existed back then.
Wheel of Time, 350 Almighty for 60MP per casting, oooof.
One funny detail about Kaya, during the event in TDL, every demons she can turn into make an appearance if you pay attention.
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>>50843775
Couple things, first off the damage boost is shared between multiple users of the skill so it ramps fast if you pass it around. Second off, it's really only overcosted on the first cast. After the 2nd it's slightly more powerful than megidolaon and by the time you reach the full +8 bonus it sits around 700 power. Formula is 350*(8+x)/8 where x is the number of times it's been used.
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>>50843832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AivcbzKOpAw
I'll take Megido, thanks. Or Super Megido.
Not that you are actually wrong, 700 is the biggest of almighty skills.
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>>50843247
I think a lot of people don't realize that's the point of group concerts: less overall rewards but zero micromanagement. It doesn't matter if your group characters are working or whoring or whatever, you can still group concert.
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>>50844002
I'd actually use Group Concerts if we were allowed to expand the number of Idol Groups we can run. Because I have over 100 individual Idols that perform every single night multiple times without fail, they need to let you have like 10 or more Idol Groups active to have it work out for me
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what do you guys even use all that money on
like there are only so many millions of maccas you need before you can just buy everything. and it's, like, three. and a full sixth of that is gonna be the super smg in the macca store. i'm pretty sure the titles only go up to billions. i can understand it if you're farming for those ultimate damage-dealing cards in the gacha because that shit was definitely designed by a faggot with an addiction to a korean gacha but i don't think that's actually the case.
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>>50843758
It's funny how Kaya has a dialogues worrying that she isn't as good as Koutai and Maya, because they are Gods, but meanwhile, she has access to possibly better resistances and Super Megido.
>>50844064
Items? Cards? Gacha? Duh?
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>Actually paying Macca for Incense
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>>50844690
Official collabs. They used NGO to advertise SH2.
>>50844694
Oh neat. That's nice.
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>>50844694
>They actually are working on a SH2 route at the moment
What seriously? You aren't trolling me are you?
>>50844805
>Official collabs. They used NGO to advertise SH2.
That... is saying something about SH2.
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>>50845041
https://gitgud.io/bazzile/eramegaten_p/-/tree/feature/SH2EVENTS?ref_ty pe=heads
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>>50844147
>she has access to possibly better resistances and Super Megido.
Is there a way to get Super Megido on an Avatar Tuner (who, natch, doesn't have Succubus as their demon form)?
>>50844774
Idols can get incense as gifts from their fans, too.
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>>50845057
I wish they finished the existing routes before adding another sure to be half finished one.
Some stuff basically JUST needs an ending.
That is sometimes as little as one paragraph of text, it CANNOT be that hard.
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>>50845057
>"there got to be a trap somewhere" I think.
>takes a lot of time to load too
>3 days ago
But nope it's there. I'll be damned. Reality really is stranger than fiction. MT1/DS1/SMT2 or Soul Hackers aren't finished, but this get a route.
Good luck into making the character other than Ringo and Figue actually interesting, from a gameplay and story perspective.
I'm not really worried about the story, since the story of SH2 is certainly a story and era is certainly good at using them without too much problem. I hope they will do fun things though, like branching or something.
>>50845110
Technically, MT1 only need the last floor, who is literally just the final dungeon.
It seems to be a sacred cow of sort: no one want to touch it.
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>>50845108
>Is there a way to get Super Megido on an Avatar Tuner
If the Avatar Tuner start as a Succubus, I don't see why n-
>(who, natch, doesn't have Succubus as their demon form)?
I don't think so? Super Megido is a Succubus thing after all.
>Idols can get incense as gifts from their fans, too.
And you will get a lot of them, if you make all your Idols work correctly.
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>>50841021
I feel its probably not gonna be that deep of an era game until...who knows how long from now when it gets a lot more content. How long did like TohoK, TohoTW or eraMega took to have a lot of content even? That's probably a reasonable estimate
I currently just play eraBlueResort to fill my time really
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Weekly update:
TW
- Cirno and Daiyousei got lines for two of Meiling's events in Lunatic Survival.
- Some bugs where Slow Recovery and STA/ENE reduction for pregnant characters never wore off if they got pregnant again too soon after giving birth got fixed.
- An original English dialogue for Shou by Worldsoul15 was added.
ERARANCEK
- Nook 77 got added.
- The game was updated to 1.5.5. Looks like some more events got added, but they aren't translated and there's no README so I'm not entirely sure what's in it.
- The Kalar faction got buffed so they'll survive longer.
- A couple crashes got fixed.
MEGATEN
- Some skills got revised (Checkmate and Randomizer are now separate skills, some demons can now learn Randomizer and Myriad Slashes…).
- The Soul Return (Revives 1 ally with 1/8 HP), Chakra Elixir (Restores 1/8 MP (up to 50 MP) to 1 ally) and Curative Cattail (Cures 1 ally of all ailments except DYING) are now included in the "Start with Special Items" NG+ option. The cost is now 2EP.
- Some typos and bugs got fixed, along with some other miscellaneous text cleanup.
- Two new jobs got added that let you train a character's skills (sexual or non-sexual) in exchange for Yen or Macca.
- Turning a Non-Combatant into an Adept will now grant them a random set of simple skills to allow them to participate in combat right away. Machine Maidens also have the option to choose a random Adept set.
- The explanations for how you earn the various titles were translated.
BLUE_RESORT
- A counter showing progress toward making a character your Sex Friend was added.
- Some Touhou character names, clothing names, COMF descriptions, and Ex Talents got translated.
- A small update got merged from upstream. It adds some new characters (Bernadetta from Fire Emblem, Ziony Regis from Super Robot Wars, Misaki from Dead or Alive, etc.) as well as some more images.
OTHER GAMES
- SomeNTRevents in eraTohoK got translated.
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>>50845616
Mother of update!
>- Two new jobs got added that let you train a character's skills (sexual or non-sexual) in exchange for Yen or Macca.
>- Turning a Non-Combatant into an Adept will now grant them a random set of simple skills to allow them to participate in combat right away. Machine Maidens also have the option to choose a random Adept set.
I'm curious about this.
>- The explanations for how you earn the various titles were translated.
Thank God.
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What does praying for boobs/asses or panties at the shrine do exactly? Also Nitori tells me that I need "git" to "develop" some tools. The fuck does that mean? Do I need to get yearning or higher on her to unlock that?
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>>50845616
>- The Soul Return (Revives 1 ally with 1/8 HP), Chakra Elixir (Restores 1/8 MP (up to 50 MP) to 1 ally) and Curative Cattail (Cures 1 ally of all ailments except DYING) are now included in the "Start with Special Items" NG+ option. The cost is now 2EP.
Soon, we'll need more endings.
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>>50845672
>Also Nitori tells me that I need "git" to "develop" some tools. The fuck does that mean?
That's just a 4th wall-breaking joke. Git is a versioning system used by most software developers around the world, and it's also used for TW, that's all.
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and the award for the densest nigga in the galaxy goes to me
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>>50845616
>some demons can now learn Randomizer
Hold up, hold up. Isn't this the JP name for debilitate? That's actually pretty huge if they are removing the boss only flag.
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>>50846000
That's just how tuner works. By and large you will always learn skills from mantras later than the average level characters tend to. In exchange you can swap them freely and later on towards the end of mantras you start learning a ton of rare skills.
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>>50846171
..Why? Use magic you little shit, then fuck her.
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there's no way even with the jp wiki to search demons by their proficiency right?
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>>50846171
I recall there was another era game that focused entirely on being a caretaker for Akyuu with a heavier tone featuing all the drama and sadness her fate entailed. I don't think it was translated though.
>>50846208
TW is pretty funny since MC can travel basically everywhere with little repercussions. Akyuu can pass on and go be Eiki's wagie for a few hundred years and she'd stilll be one TSP warp away from receiving creampies on the daily. Not even death can separate you from being together.
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>>50847035
>don't think it was translated though.
Frustrating isn't it? Not translated is like a ghost hovering behind everyone.
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I have spent sometimes testing "Jack the Ripper"'s awakening skills with 2 of them and have realized something about it.
1. Sabbath skills don't stack. If you trigger "Sabbath Healer" then "Sabbath Drain" won't activate. So don't put more than 1 Sabbath skill on a character.
2. "Terror of London" doesn't trigger "Devil Co-op" so you can't activate Sabbath skill like "Sabbath Drain" 7 times if you have a full physical team focusing on draining the boss MP.
3. "Terror of London" activates 1 time per turn per battle for each demons that have it. This means if you have 2 "Jack the Ripper" then "Terror of London" will activate for the faster Jack at turn 1 and activate again on turn 2 for the slower Jack.
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>>50847106
Good to know. Though it's not surprising, if you could do more than 1 Coop per character, it would be too much, but this make things clear.
You know, I would have expected Toki to have at least two skills like Terror of London.
>1. Sabbath skills don't stack. If you trigger "Sabbath Healer" then "Sabbath Drain" won't activate. So don't put more than 1 Sabbath skill on a character.
Really need something in the description to say it.
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Technically, you can put them on the same character but only one will ever trigger.
There is one sabbath slot per co-op (I think it chooses randomly. Whether having more kinds gives more "chances" for one to trigger I don't know).
If you're relying on something like drain to keep your mp up or rally to replace buffing then you should probably just have that in your whole party.
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>>50847133
>does that mean you can put different sabbath skills on different characters
Yup. So you can have 4 Drains and 2 Healers, for example. Suck the boss dry, then keep everyone healed during the slapfight without spending a single turn using any healing skills or items.
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Poor Julia. Imagine having a personal skill like that, but there's a skill called Nova Cizer that does the same minus thetarget everyonebut doesn't need a full gauge to be used.
Bit of a shame, because it's not actually a bad skill. Row damage can bite you seriously in the ass, but multi hit is a worthy risk.
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>>50846445
What truly matters is that we spend our time together.
And that we create the next heir of the Hieda family.
Of which we've created 17 already.
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>>50849699
Present day, you enhance a character, anyone, and MC get as much stats you gave the other. You gave A and B 10 stat somewhere, MC gain free 20 stats to put where you want.
Of course, this ignore when you import your characters, mag enhancement and all, forcing you to reset their Mag Enhancements in the menu.
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>>50849752
no, it's not the sum of all enhancements you've ever given everyone, unless it's been very recently changed. that would be even more ridiculous. if you give A, B, C 10 stats and D 11 stats, you can give MC 11 stats.
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>>50849752
>Of course, this ignore when you import your characters, mag enhancement and all, forcing you to reset their Mag Enhancements in the menu.
Doesn't that simply cap how much the character can benefit from their Mag Enhancements until they gain enough levels? I can see it being a problem for those who want to try out a bunch of different builds for their MC, but if not then there's no reason to reset.
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man, i just can't get over how good half-demon is out of the box.
[Mind Nullification] and [Nerve Nullification] get rid of two weaknesses and aren't hard to get.
You can freely add two resistances.
That leaves you with ONLY light and dark as weaknesses
BUT you can also easily get immunity to death through equipment.
and if that wasn't enough, you can go gunman for inherent [Pierce], [Gunslinger 2], and/or [Tool Knowledge 3].
Fuck it, let's give them Avatar's [Invigorate (Medium)]. [Invigorate (Large)] would be too greedy, after all.
NG+? Nah, bro, you're good. You can have access to a metric fuckton of equipment-based skills instead.also they FIXED THE ABSORB/REFLECT TYPO LET'S GOOOOOO
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>>50850071
The stats stay apparently? I'm confused to be honest.
Of course, it's only really a problem, if you consider the characters being OP and not the MC being a problem.
So only a problem if you are autistic.Like me.
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>>50850103
How to turn Mind and Nerve into something that is more like a suggestion, or another damage. Which is, like damaging Light and Dark skills, VERY RARE TO FIND.
It's literally baby Devil Hunter. And it's great.
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>>50850291
no, nta. that was just my understanding of the conversation. i don't actually know how those plug-ins work. but the MC's enhancement points = the highest number of enhancements they've put on any single demon. so if orpheus's harp or whatever count as magic enhancements, they may stack with normal magic enhancements, giving your MC super double extra magic enhancements to match the petit frost or whatever.
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>>50850296
Ah. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. Be back real quick.
Nope. Plug-ins doesn't work.
>>50850304
>sentient car
Please, calm your lust Anon
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>>50850303
Seems like MC is more about putting Mag in people, than actually using it now.
>>50850304
I mean, yeah, but a first timer without skill cardoss? He would like at the MC, the MAG, and the dev, and say "Are you retarded?"
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>>50850306
>Please, calm your lust Anon
I mean, a hole's a hole
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>>50850304
if you could extract cards from MC, that'd be one thing. you could be a card-evolving machine. but you don't really need that much more MAG for MC's skills than you do for your demons, and your demons are getting all their skills and mag enhancements on top. for shoving MAG into demons you can either just use the anti-grind app or grind normally; i never really liked sex as a way to improve a character's willpower/stamina because it's a bit cart-before-the-horse for me. so besides your own stamina/willpower, which isn't even that useful, there's really not much for your own character's MAG
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>>50850303
Not a problem for Avatar Chads.
Also I think from a game design perspective it feels "better" for the mag You gather to go to people you Train if you don't actually need it for anything.
In my perfect world there would be essentially the tentacle injection system but you feed the MC's Mag in it instead: that way your "useless" mag can be funneled more directly to people who need it.
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>>50850317
ANON SHE'S IN PIECES THAT'S BASICALLY NECROPHILIA.It's funny because it's true
>>50850318
The problems are multiple.
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>only way to properly share your excess MAG is either through SECKS or weird gross tentacle magic
man....
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>>50850328
Oh, no, the tentacles don't even do that.
They eat people whole (completely killing them) and then you can charge other character with the energy that makes, and high level characters make more energy.
It's optimal to eat everyone you haven't contracted before a new game plus but it's pretty damn morbid, really.
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>>50850328
Venus Bloodbros.we are being insulted.
>>50850334
Even more morbid than Souls game were killing everyone before ng+ is optimal.
A good way to use your remining macca, is the gacha, and then you hit the character limit, to feed every characters to the tentacles.
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>>50850340
venus blood seems like an obvious choice for full implementation given it's one of the few porn games that can match shineratensei in sheer autism
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>>50850340
Wew. Shame I'm too much of a good boye to willingly go through with genosliding 500 humans just to be able to MAG-dump effectively
Even on Dark-alignment runs, I'm just not THAT much of a murderhobo
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>>50850382
Look, causing the apocalypse, murdering a magical girl that just wants to prevent suffering and generally condemning people to a much worse fate than in their original series isn't THAT big of a deal.....
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>>50850394
Nah it's fiiiiiine, they'll respawn
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>>50850452
shouldn't have fallen in love with a demon then IDIOT
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>>50850456
Real chad turn their waifu into a Mammon, and then clean EVERY weaknesses.
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Excuse me Night Tale, I just thought it would be nice if she could fight with me instead of being thrown in the whorehouse.
What is this softcore guro scene?
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>>50850497
To be fair, Chaos appreciators are just built different
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>>50850493
"back in the day" as if ayylmao hadn't chomped off Waltuh's cock off on-screen
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>>50850497
Oh, he didn't mind, he proposed the damn thing. In case the machine going off didn't tip you that something was wrong.
>>50850511
What did she do anyways? She knelled on Waltuh, it went splash, and then they apparently fused, with Waltuh becoming his left arm.
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>>50850528
I think it's implied that, since Hikaru wasn't really a human body, Luci just went inside Walter's body and rearranged it from within
the sound effects and this sprite just before the design reveal kinda hint at this
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