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Time to Sleep Edition.

▶What is this?
/egg/ — Era Games General; also known as the “Era Games Thread”.
Era games are a group of (usually) Japanese-developed text porn games.
They’re not exclusively related to the Touhou franchise, but it’s one of the series with the most Era games.

▶Games usually discussed here
eraTohoTW — Comfy Touhou dating simulator with time stop shenanigans.
eraTohoK — Tactical game about conquering Gensokyo through any (absolutely any) means.
eraMegaten — Dungeon crawler based on the Shin Megami Tensei series, with tons of characters from other series (Fate, Touhou, Madoka, etc) included.

▶Useful Links
Guides and downloads for all Era games. For TW you should get the eng-development version, eng-release is several years old.
>https://wiki.eragames.rip/index.php/Main_Page
Japanese wiki.
>https://seesaawiki.jp/eraseries/.
Report any bugs you find over here.
>https://wiki.eragames.rip/bugreport.php
Compilation of development suggestions for TW.
>https://rentry.org/TW-Idea-List
A link to the Flan dialogue folder + beginners’ template.
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19LjeaQsVIDn5iPAFBXG1mrH82qqMytMNZKWD6FEQbpw/edit?usp=sharing
A folder link that contains the images used for the Touhou characters.
>https://mega.nz/folder/ud1XiQAa#s1bcCcLc2Lv-tq3I80My0w
P noncombatant un-nerf
>https://mega.nz/file/JRZzAYYK#-a6OabLzrMOah-EvgNZCGW5BHrnxK4Lqe4RObCVbVVI
EraTW-Requiem
>https://gitgud.io/JPAnon/era-tw-requiem

▶Games
Git repository that has latest official builds to any of the games, you can sometimes find more recent versions than the ones on the wiki.
>https://gitgud.io/era-games

Git repository for a fork of eraTohoTW maintained by the /egg/ community.
>https://gitgud.io/Legis1998/anon-tw/-/releases/

▶Tools
Automatic translator which copies text straight from the game. Comes with an optional customized built-in offline model. The password for it is "era".
>https://wiki.eragames.rip/index.php/Sugoi
Direct link for the latest version of Sugoi. Version 10 of Sugoi Translator with the DeepL Fix.
https://mega.nz/file/GlAj3bIa#E4XoJ2yXBjNtKWPUrXjHy3TBWuIVnmHCKGtkjG5DG_Q Fetches the latest version of TW, K or Megaten from the official git, no login needed.
>http://madhammer.club/files/era-updater.7z

▶How to play?
Run anchor.exe (or Emuera, depending on the game), Japanese locale is advised so you don’t run into untranslated text.
If you wish to manually update, delete old files aside the sav and dat folders to avoid any bugs.

▶Tips
If you’d like to either edit or add your own portraits, the files are located within the ‘resources’ folder in webp format. You can use paint.net to edit them.
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>Anon, have you heard of 'diorite' before?
>It's a type of igneous rock with an interesting appearance, often featuring many black and white blotches in a manner not too dissimilar to that of a cow.
>Apparently, it is formed when a magma flow containing a moderate amount of silica is slowly cooled deep underground, meaning that diorite is also a type of intrusive rock.
>Humans apparently used to find diorite rather pleasing to look at...
>It has been sculpted into statues, jars, plaques, and many other decorations by human civilizations of ancient times...
>And some of these artefacts are apparently still remarkably intact to this very day, even down to their engravings.
>Nowadays however, apparently they don't make a lot of things out of this stuff anymore...
>Well, Anon, what do you think of diorite?
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Waggy yapps
And I listen
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>>50851975
komachi's got some big boobies
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>>50852022
i play with them every night when i come back home to the sanzu river btw
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>>50852029
i'm sure her boss would let you run hotwheels over them if you asked.
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>>50852022
Eiki...
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>>50851975
If only people listened to Eiki that eagerly.
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Avatar Tuners are humans with the power of demons, and they're not that gory. Hell, when they eat things they don't leave that much of a mess.
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>>50852271
Pretty sure Era canon is demons just dissolve into magnetite when they die anyway.
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Nazrin's pretty cute and I like her.
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>>50852460
Here's some friendly advice, anon: never play UFO
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>>50852460
fantasy maiden wars gave me a big appreciation for her & shou
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>>50852059
she should try talking about cool stuff like rocks
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I don't understand why eratensei treats Mayone like she deserves eternal gigarape when she really seems like a pretty decent boss.
Like what, she teases you? Tries to complete a job first and then gracefully backs out when you beat her up?
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>>50853044
To be fair, she IS Dark/Law and very hoity-toity
Also she bullies relentlessly you if you were a slave prior so uhhhh there's that
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>>50853053
...well, to be blunt, anyone who sets their backstory to sex slave probably wants her to bully them.
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>>50853044
it's fun starting out as a retarded rapewhore and degrading her down to your level
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Huh, I don't think there is any actual way for a tuner to learn prayer unless they learn it naturally from their link(seraph for instance).
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Passionlip's Salome to Degenerate sounds like it is SUPPOSED to lower enemy defense on crit, but it definitely lowers the MC's defense instead.
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was this always like this? having insensitive traits is BETTER long-term? normal sensitive traits are only +30
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>>50853277
Looks like her Ioannes to Cage also debuffs the MC's attack for some reason. That's definitely a bug.
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I guess these games aren't really for me if I'm not into the rapey type of things?
Or rather I think the stuff is hot but I usually immediately reload like in Nitori's Picnic Scene in TW.
I'd also like to know if there is a way to masturbate as a female PC?
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>>50853347
>these games
anonTW and i believe eragrandblue are very no-rape loveydovey games. eramegaten and K can be played loveydovey, but the former has you as a slaver regardless. you can still be a goodish guy.
you can masturbate when you're alone in your room in TW. if you can't do it as a female i assume it's a ''we honestly didn't think anyone would play as FEMC'' thing. not sure.
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>>50853346
>>50853277
Ok, it's not even just them. Other attacks like fang breaker which have a debuff component also debuff the MC. I suspect any move that calls CALL SKILL_SET_カジャンダ is fucked. I'm 99% sure CALL SKILL_SET_カジャンダ is the culprit. It's not Passionlip that is fucked, EVERYTHING is fucked. A huge number of skills call that.
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>>50853355
Alright so continue Futa.
If only there was such a thing as getting consent for Time Stop Rape.
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>>50853277
>>50853346
>>50853368
There is a weird bug for skills and plug-ins that raises a single target stat like "Book of Thoth" and awakening skills like Scathach "Warrior Trainer". Those skills activate on the MC instead of their actual target.
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>>50853347
>>50853355
Adding to that.
I guess I want to be the one that is being trained or at least have the girls use the same commands on me.
You can't tell them to do most things to you which saddens me.
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>>50853374
Guess what scat calls. It's the same bug.
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>>50853392
you can directly command your partner to do stuff to you in K. they can kinda do it in TW, but you gotta condition them a bunch. either way, it helps to dive into the weeds of their traits and edit them with debug. there are a couple smaller less-translated games that are more player-submissive too.
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>>50853373
there is, but only with a couple characters
just remember that all of these games are built on top of a slave trainer, rape is in our blood
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CALL SKILL_SET_カジャンダ is beyond me to figure out what's breaking I think. If anyone more familiar with the code wants to take a look it's in SKILL_ACTION_EXTRA.ERB around line 240 or so. Not sure if it's borked in the japanese version too.
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>>50853437
Looked at NAS and if I turn off all the weird stuff it has pretty much what I want from the game.. hopefully
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Is [Sworn Friends] a different fall state for the purposes contract new game + resistances?
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I want to formally apologize to the Bang Dream event line, I wasn't familiar with your game and just ignored you when I did my solo/no dungeons challenge. I could have gotten WAY farther.
>Life Bonus, Invigorate (Medium), Megido, Mabufudyne, Maragidyne, Hellfire, Tetrakarn, Sukukaja, Power Charge, Endure
>3000 Macca, 100k yen, Swords Celtis and Murakumo, Daybreak Gauntlets

probably still not enough exp to clear rabi-ribi based on my experience but it MIGHT be possible to get harem end? you need 1mil contribution and a contracted character. but that's fairly tight on the yen, and with only a limited number of battles to get stamina onto someone to contract, not to mention the lack of starting skills on whoever you train, and the relative lack of training sessions. way more doable than i thought it was though
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>>50853595
Yeah, I initially didn't give a shit about the events but once you do them and get access to Mementos + your off-brand TEMU Phantom Thieves it actually does become highly beneficial.
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>>50853598
do you know how you unlock the unavailable requests?

tragic that half-demon for whatever reason doesn't get access to the experienced starter pixie even if you're a pure, chaste virgin. maybe sakihime or yomi or one of those one-off characters... if you aren't selling them their talents can be as shit easy as you want.
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>>50853601
>do you know how you unlock the unavailable requests?
No...not yet...
I can only imagine it might have to do with having certain BanG characters in your party or, god forbid, actually going through the DDSxP5 storyline and recruiting the ACTUAL Phantom Thieves
Also lol 4chin dieded to death for a few hours
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So I need a Melty Blood character to do one of the events and get one of the endings.

I don't want to waste 500 Macca and two demons on a demon I'll only use for a few quests then collect dust on the shelf until I deign to do the same quest chain next cycle. I might want to have them fight a boss or wreck mobs.

My current pick is Kohaku, for her Comet Sweep move that hits all foes in the battle. However, to get the most out of it she needs to be at low health, something not very convenient when you're fresh into a dungeon, to say nothing of event fights.

My gut feeling tells me that the quickest way to do that is to have use a suicide move such as Recarmdra, then cast Recarm to revive her at low health. Then you can start sweeping. But that's quite a bit of setup when you can simply have your demon cast Megidola or something and call it a day.

Am I overthinking this?
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>>50853608
godspeed if those silly little bastards with the funni faces are at it again

i also realized MAYONE
she gets a FREE training when you get her, has a ton of good starting skills, isn't a virgin, and even comes with free 50 climax exp for [lewd]. although no [Virgin] is a double-edged sword; easier to train, but -80% final cost... hmmmm but i still think maybe it can be done. not harem end but probably regular executive end.

>>50853619
i just went with ciel and it was pretty easy without any fancy party. one of the easier endings IMO. you could also just make whoever your traesto/liftoma/lightoma/riberama/mapper/blood wine bot.
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>>50853619
oh and both lens don't require any dolly kadmon at all. just lilim and either nekomata or yuki jyorou.
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>>50853619
If you haven't done the university dungeon yet you can get a free zoma from there.
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>>50853619
Spend the 500 macca to make Sion because her conception item gun can be really useful since it gives an almighty attack from the weapon.
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>>50853630

Good to know, thanks. Guess I'll be sticking with Kohaku and her gimmick, can never have too many useful physical sweepers.

>>50853633
Yeah, but their signature moves are really mediocre when you can simply have someone learn Frolic or something.
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>>50853680
>her conception item gun can be really useful

What's the stats of the gun, if I may ask?
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>>50853683
Something like 250 power, 1 hit, six bullets slots, level 50 handgun.
For actual gunslingers it is far from optimal, but giving an almighty to random physical attacker humans without cards is neat.
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>>50853694
It's also the best weapon to give to DeviColoMC, since she has MP she can't normally use.
The skill is Almighty one target plus surrounding with enhanced crit, which is great, but DeviColo also has Advice and Third Eye.
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Speaking of conception items, I think it is funny how probably an unironic 25% of them are on the Touhous.
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When I'm wondering why the Revue I got at Rag's don't want to do concert...
What do you guys think should be done with the Naoya route, specifically, the Bels?
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>>50853768
Some of them are quite good too. Most of them should probably get a buff though.
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>>50853454
Good luck.
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>>50853694

Alright, I've been giving Sion the Yellow Candy, but no matter how many times I try she's not laying the gun. What am I missing here?
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>>50854685

Never mind, I found out you have to give them a fall state first.
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>>50854691
Getting over 1k love exp on someone also just has them give you the item through an event for people who dislike the whole abortion-inflation-egglaying thing.
I assume you need to be in a maximum fall state but if you have 1k love exp you probably got to that anyway.
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>>50854691
>>50854736
Remember that they give you the item only once per cycle.
So if you import the characters in the next cycle, you will get the item almost immediatly which is funny.
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Was I not supposed to get one of the Longinus after the battalion event if I spread the rumors about nazi girls?
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>>50854896
You should get the option to pick one after each fight with them.
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>>50854932
I have not.
The wiki says you have to not be on the nyarl route...but I don't know what triggers that, I guess. The first time I touched the rumors at all was to spread the beautiful nazi soldiers.
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Thanks for the quick fix to the buff/debuff bug. It seems to be working now.
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What is even the point of smile charge? More than double the cost of a normal charge so you can...what, physical attack and then magic attack? Is it just operating under the assumption that mixed attackers aren't objectively worse and you might run one?
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>>50855132
Useful for the skills that get piercing when you have the other buff. Also I believe the handful of skills with dual scaling can take advantage of both buffs. Definitely on the niche side though.
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>>50851613
For eraMegaten, I know that the best way to start is to go in blind, but is there anything permanently missable to look out for?
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>>50855228
On a single loop? Tons, it's physically impossible to do everything on one loop(although you can see a lot of it). However the game is designed with NG+ in mind and I think the only thing you can fuck yourself out of across multiple loops is the revue starlight stuff if you do it wrong?
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>>50855228
The game is designed around a new game + system (there's even content you can't even do in a fresh playthrough) so no.
Probably the closet thing that might affect a new player to that is that if you don't do the earliest Persona 1 content by I wanna say 10 Turns it locks you out of it for that playthrough.
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>>50855260
Endings like the nocturne one that have to be done before other endings that loop are another pretty easy run into one.
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>>50855278
Well, I think on your first playthrough you shouldn't even really try for or worry about endings.
Chances are if you're doing what the game tells you you'll just get executive anyway.
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>>50855326
no fuck that nocturne/amala is a whole fucking questline that only locks you out of the very end if you make the mistake of not realizing it has to be your first ending. that would be annoying as SHIT and the source is ME
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>>50855336
I'm sorry for your loss.
I gave up on Nocturne as a new player when after like 10 turns Demi-Fiend was hopelessly behind because for some reason all the magatama are in the colosseum and not, you know, the nocturne dungeon.
I also assumed you might need to use characters from a game to finish that game's story...which is wrong, except when it isn't.
Eratensei is a wiki game.
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>>50855346
To be fair, the fights in the colosseum are meant to mirror various fights in nocturne proper(all magatama was outside of amala). I can only assume they are there instead of events simply as a relic of older game design where you couldn't just freely leave and come back and probably would need to spend multiple trips clearing the dungeon(and thus would have a chance to do arena fights on the side).
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>>50855336
How nostalgic. I remember going mad with this storyline too. What is absolutely diabolical is you can actually continue with the dungeon even if you can't have the ending anymore.
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>>50855363
locking out the very end of the dungeon unless you don't have any other endings that run is a dick move no matter what you say though. the fact that it's already such a pain in the ass to get there just makes it worse.
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>>50855369
Fun fact, you can't even debug teleport at the end too!
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looks like tokok hasn't been updated for a few years and on the jp side they seem to have added a bunch of characters, is there any work being done on it in the background or is it just dead? also anyone know what password 過去ログ is supposed to be? it's for the newest char set on book shelf
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Honestly they should have just commited to one ending per run or infinite endings per run. Like I guess I can understand how some endings can't be continued from like when the world literally ends...but why is like restaurant owner a hard stopping point?
A man can't own a McDonald's and hunt demons in his spare time?
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>>50855431
but anon, K was updated a week ago
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>>50855434
You are more like Gordon Ramsay really.
>"This demon is RAW"
Or Senshi I guess.
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>>50855435
i grabbed it off the wiki and the era updater and both were the same 2023 version, what am i missing
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>>50855447
Use the git.
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Insane to me how Raidou has technically existed since almost the beginning but you can't get him.
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>>50855466
the era updater literally says it does that
>Fetches the latest version of TW, K or Megaten from the official git, no login needed.
and i checked the git but didn't see anything so assumed you needed an account
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>>50855477
And it's never worked very well. And yeah, make an account.
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>>50855470
It is isn't it? Even with the three Nagi routes completed!
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>>50855482
>make an account
nah fuck that, nevermind then

then does anyone know what the archive password is? it's ID eraTx3001 and created_resorce.7z
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I was expecting something as old as Night Tale to have a relatively easy final event but holy fuck Mother Harlot just showed me the what's what.
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>>50855434
Hey man, the food industry is a cutthroat business
Critics, entitled housewives and vloggers are more deadly an opponent than demons and gods.
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>>50855515
What, you think it's hard? You are so not ready for Brahman.
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>>50855485
nothing is completed until it is translated into the language of the bible, english
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>>50855530
Not exactly hard, per se, but I've been casually using almighty spam to clear most endgame content for a few cycles now so I didn't have the party setup to recover from that literally blowing up in my face.
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>>50855546
Rookie mistake, always having characters that can hit weakpoints, if not in your guns, at least in your COMP.
You aren't ready for some fights in Revue storyline. Or The Tower, because remember Shekinah?
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what is the diffrent between anonTW and eraTW-requiem?
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>>50855550
One has the Requiem Arrow. funny joke
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>>50855251

Doesn't the titles that require your MC to be a virgin also count? In that you'd have to reset all your hard won and grinded for skill experiences? Or can you simply get those on another file?
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>you get 1000 macca for winning the beginners card summoner tournament
:O there's at least SOME integration between the mini-game and the rest of the game
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>>50855577
>me, who suck at the game be like
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>>50855577
You can get some slaves from there too.
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Why are all the Dx2 characters named like...that?
Are those like user submitted characters or is Dx2 actually like that?
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>>50855622
Named like what?
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>>50855666
Well, Chalk Eater, Kangaroo Boxer, and Meat Balloon really stick out in the character list.
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>>50855671
I only know about Himika. And her chest. And her outfit.
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>>50855671
Because that's how they are actually named in game. It's pseudonyms.
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What is the effect of "Folklore" in eratenseiP? Unlike the past version, in P we can analyze in 1 turn so what is it effect?
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>>50855722
Good question.
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=>>50855722
it still takes a bunch of turns of combat to passively analyze, so i assume it speeds that up.
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our megaten branch got an updater or do I have to grab it from the git each time
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>>50855746
It's better to get it from the git.
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>>50855550
One is spearheaded by a crazy guy and the other by less crazy and also less capable guys.
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Is there any reason not to use correction to min/max attack or magic by draining the other to zero?
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>>50855754
Less capable according to the former guy, who made tennis club.
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>>50855780
I don't think so.
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What would be the best gun for a Magic focused demon?

Oh, and about the All MP skills:
Jack Frost/Strawberry Frost: Atomic Bufula; Pyro Jack: Atomic Agilao; Succubus: Super Megido, but who else?
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>>50855840
>gun
I mean, since you're primarily going magic it doesn't matter too much, but probably just something like a grenade launcher or flamethrower or something, just a gun with high coverage
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>>50855846
Been trying to give her a Megido Fire unfortunately, it's only for Human and Half-Demons.
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>>50855840
I usually default to anything that gives +stats. I think the one from the hades gear thing gives +6 magic or something?
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>>50851703
I think they are very tasty.
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>>50855840
I check Japanese wiki and this is all skills that cost all MP:

Yoma Succubus: Super Megido (Almighty)
Fairy Jack Frost: Atomic Bufula (Ice)
Fairy Jack-o'-lantern : Dynamic Agilao (Fire)
Vile Ankou: Hyper Zionga (Electric)
Vile Kanaloa: Wonderful Aques (Water)
Flight Stymphaledes: Dangerous Garula (Wind)
Fallen Barbatos: Great Magnus (Earth)
Lady Demeter: Ultra Freire (Nuclear)
Brute Hoshiguma Yuugi (Touhou): Three-Step Kill (All-Purpose) *EX (Touhou). Consumes 33% of MP = Can be used 3 times. Physical attack.

https://seesaawiki.jp/eramegaten_another/d/%c2%a4%cb%e2
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>>50855853
Exagryph? 2 St, 6 In and 2 Ma, not bad at all. It can also be forged... and it can't be equipped anymore by my demon. Dunno why, it's annoying.

Hate being the bringer of bad news, but this remind me there's a glitch, the second skills isn't present.
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>>50856048
You are a Lucifer, thanks. Shame about Ultra Freire being Party wide. But you are a chief!
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>>50856198
Should be fixed now.
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>>50856286
The skills, or the forging? Lmao.

Thanks pal.
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>>50855550
right now, basically nothing
Requiem promised to have more frequent updates and already mentioned adding the newest hus but that was 2 months ago
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>>50856314
That is the power of Requiem-da. Every time he pushes an update, it reverts back to zero.
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>>50856314
To be fair, we are talking about Era, Era devs aren't exactly known to be fast updaters. Otherwise WE WOULD HAVE MORE STORYLINES AND TRANSLATIONS.

>>50856317
>me, offer an explanation
>you, jojo ref
And I tell to myself, what a wonderful world.
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>>50856321
>WE WOULD HAVE MORE STORYLINES AND TRANSLATIONS.
This is caused mostly due to a lack of translators.
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>>50856335
I want to ask, how hard would it be. But I know very well it would be hard, even with AI helping. Japanese is a bullshit language with too much subtleties. I really do want to spite some venom though, since they could at least translated the storylines that aren't translated, but I know better, so I'll just complain at the situation instead of the people.
Speaking of, how is going this translation by AI stuff?

We also don't have much devs apparently.
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Anons I need help.

And I mean I've spend a week fiddling with settings, components, wine and Proton releases, dotnets, ".NET"s Vcredists etc. and various apks and emus.
>Why?

My PC have gone not to be back half a year ago, and I've got into emulation on my phone instead. (It really went way forward, from 5 years ago, I can tell y'all that), and now I sorta had in mind to revisit EraTohoK (and maybe grieve my unfinished world map, i've had edited in some custom events, and special locations whole thing got corrupted and sickened me to the game as a whole for a long time)

And I just can't get it to work.
Both Emuera Anchor, and Emuera exe (downloaded from the common issues page, I think) just fail silently.
Gamehublite gives no launch logs (or else I couldn't find them in android files) while Winlator gives a "could not load mono" error in logs.
I have no idea how to use winetricks or winebottles on android

Also, the new captchas here have amazed me if the constant 504 bad gateways haven't (Amount if times I tried to post this commment tally: 9
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Anons I need help.

And I mean I've spend a week fiddling with settings, components, wine and Proton releases, dotnets, "NET"s Vcredists etc. and various apks and emus.
>Why?

My PC have gone not to be back half a year ago, and I've got into emulation on my phone instead. (It really went way forward, from 5 years ago, I can tell y'all that), and now I sorta had in mind to revisit EraTohoK (and maybe grieve my unfinished world map, i've had edited in some custom events, and special locations whole thing got corrupted and sickened me to the game as a whole for a long time)

And I just can't get it to work.
Both Emuera Anchor, and Emuera exe (downloaded from the common issues page, I think) just fail silently.
Gamehublite gives no launch logs (or else I couldn't find them in android files) while Winlator gives a "could not load mono" error in logs.
I have no idea how to use winetricks or winebottles on android

Also, the new captchas here have amazed me if the constant 504 bad gateways haven't (Amount of times I tried to post this commment tally: 14
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>>50856406
What's weird is that they say there's an error, or the captcha wasn't properly filled they were... and still post anyways.
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>>50856410
4chan has been shitting itself for hours now, dont worry.
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>>50856414
>hours
years...
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>>50856414
More like days, no?
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It's been shitting the bed for me the last two days with a few hours here and there where it works fine.
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>>50856660
It's not very nice to boast.
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>>50856342
I mean with sugoi translator you can get the basic jist of any untranslated story content displayed pretty conveniently.
Translation programs are pretty passible these days for just understanding things, other than sucking at pronouns.
Unfortunately it doesn't grab in battle stuff that gets put in those boxes because I guess that doesn't get copied to the clipboard. Which is a shame because I think there's a surprising amount of reactivity in those for some characters.
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>>50856758
Basic jist, probably, but it's not exacly perfect. As in, it is the opposite of perfect.
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>>50856763
I'd rather know 80% of the story than 0.
For what it's worth I found I had no issues following the Fate story with it.
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>>50856772
Actually, yeah, following the Fate story with it, I had no issue either.
But following the YuYuYu story with it? Pssssh, it was painful.
Devil Children Manga and Nagi's routes wasn't too bad, but it could have been better.
The rest... really, really need a translation. A real one. Yeah, knowing 80% of the story is good, but if you just can't understand anything, you might as well say it's 0.
The site seems have gotten better.
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>>50856776
The untranslated parts of the YuYuYu events are pretty much incomprehensible even if they were translated.
Which is why they are getting completely remade.
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>>50856782
>The untranslated parts of the YuYuYu events are pretty much incomprehensible even if they were translated.
Oh? That's good to know.
>spoiler
That doubly good to know!
I-I mean there's still the rest...
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>>50856758
there's nothing stopping you or anyone else from making some shitty MTL fork or patch, almost everything in the era games is in plain text and you could literally just edit it with notepad
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>>50856786
I think no one want to go under the fire.
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>you can fight SMT 1 hero as a superboss that gives you nothing other than the hefty exp of fighting a bunch of level 99s
???
They couldn't come up with anything? I know the Hinokagatsuchi is somewhere else, but...nothing? Maybe a comp capacity, like how you get memory boards fighting enemy devil summoners in 1? Pascal-Cerberus as one of the "unique generics"?
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>>50856792
for true smt autists and the devs the boss fights are the real waifus.
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>>50856792
I was surprised too. You can't get Law Hero, Chaos Hero, or even The Boii.
Or The Heroine, who is nowhere to be seen.
You don't even get a unique weapon or anything.

Put a fucking Neutral Gun already!
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>>50856794
You know what, that's fair.
Atlus literally sells for money cameo superbosses these days so this is just replicating the feeling of the real product.
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>>50856802
it's fair until you realize it's the reason for the most egregious nerfs you can think of. anything which compromises the sanctity of their boss battle is something to be erased
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>>50856802
>>50856804
That's cringe bros. Double cringe.
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>>50856804
There is an eternal war between contributors who want their favorite ex character to have a button that one shots all content and contributors who want the game to feel like nocturne early game at all times.
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>>50856807
RIP Shogotan. She needed the nerf, but it was too much of a nerf.
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>>50856414
It's been dead for years now.
For years now.
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>>50856048
We need female Jacks.
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>>50856863
just take a normal jack and make it female, easy
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>>50856865
With portraits!
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>>50856867
They look the same ho.
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>>50856870
Sorry if I don't want to put my dick into a snowman. Or a flying cover. Nyeeeeh!
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>>50856863
There's Strawberry Frost (Devil Children), no?
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>>50856867
here you go
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>>50856877
MY EYES
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>>50856877
I want to Hee this Ho.
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Isn't 50 turns way too strict?
Is there a way to edit the time limits?
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>>50856933
it used to be way more strict. the current 50 day limit is imo WAY more than enough, even for a new player. a full P playthrough is like at least 3 old-megaten playthroughs.
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>>50856933

In P you can reenter dungeons as many times as you like so long as you don't switch out, and the Sea Ark is always open to you once unlocked. That alone makes the time limit not nearly as bad as it could be.
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>>50856933
If anything it's so loose it may as well not be there.
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>>50856933
Even as a fresh playthrough with no idea what you're doing and making suboptimal plays you can EASILY finish an ending by at most 30 turns.
And if that somehow isn't enough there are endings obtainable past turn 50. You are more likely to accidentally get an ending than fail to get one at all.
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you can (probably) get an ending on day 1 of a NG, solo, without ever entering a dungeon
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>>50856974
Without EX that might be hard, I think. A lot of request or event only endings have some sort of enforced one a day waiting.
So you'd probably have to do Nagi? That five headed Ouhan solo might be rough with only the resources you'd get through events.
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>>50856980
the only event-chains with endings that are available on day 1 without entering a dungeon are rabi-ribi, fate, and melty-blood. there's also executive ending and such. lone marebito requires 1000 fame, which afaik is impossible for day 1 without a dungeon.
fate's a definite no, since it requires cu chulainn in a fall state to really get started. melty blood maaaaybe since you're heavily limited on demons (you get pixie, mary-chan, and not a whole lot else for fusing). rabi-ribi is prooobably impossible solo. maybe.
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>>50856933
Yes and no. It depends what you're doing. If you want to do dungeons/requests/events/ect then 50 turns is far more than enough, if you want to do training then 50 days is extremely strict. This is due to what does and doesn't pass time.
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eramegaten is making me want to rewatch revue starlight...
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>giraffe-san calls you out if you leave maya & claudine for last and speculates that you're in deep shit
why is revue so kino honestly wtf
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could this website kindly either get its shit together or just shut down
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>>50857168
Beatings will likely continue for a least another week or two.
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>>50857000
It would be real fucking tedious but as long as you've got the cash you can contract everyone in two total turns with sworn friend loyalty grinding.
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There are so many weird, unique, and often op characters in the ex rag shop.
I love using the subscription service and just getting someone who will go on to be a real anchor of the team this cycle.
I just wish, you know, the actual megami tensei characters in my megami tensei fangame had as much love.
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>>50857403
>tfw the likes of Tao, Sahori and Yoko are kinda eh, and Nanashi/Asahi are your average summoners for those who're too lazy/contrarian to get Mirai, Setsuna, Tamaki or Ayato
>but then you look into the EX shop and get shit like Mira, the LISA characters, the Symphogears, the Blue Archive lolis, etc.
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DAY ONE
FRESH NEW GAME
SOLO
NO DUNGEONS
CHALLENGE RUN

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character creation;
this is the sort of challenge where you take every fucking advantage you can get your nasty little hands on.
-training difficulty can be normal or easy
-all rebalancing options on. i didn't use a customized personal skill. i did use enhance equipment bonus, but could've gone without it if i weren't such a cheap fuck with my JP points.
-all ex events on
-large or smaller MC
-cumdumpster not required, i used a pure virgin
-the pro-training talents from character creation quiz are a bonus, but also not necessary
-class; half-demon.
-absorb slash/pierce/strike/havoc, weak light/dark/mind/nerve/nuclear/gravity, 75 resist everything else.
-tentacle user as your class is [required], as it gets [tentacle technique] for free.
-demon heritage MUST HAVE dia. because you are solo, you want diarahan, not mediarahan. media only evolves into mediarahan.
-lady and avatar have dia. avatar wins because it also has fog breath and power breath.
-summoner aptitude is absolutely necessary, even if it's technically just quality of life, because you'll go insane otherwise.
-everything else in skill aptitude.
-refuse a slave from mayone. she'll give you a luck incense, which you can sell.

early game;
-the ending you're aiming for is executive; 3.5million yen contribution.
-strip every ally you get. and sell it for yen ASAP. nobu in particular has some goodies. sell all your consumables, too.
-in fact, sell any equipment you can and leave yourself in lower-tier equipment.
-DO NOT GO UP A PAYMENT TIER without selling everything you can properly for yen, not jp.
-it's easy to accidentally go up a tier through events that add fame, because they reduce your threshold for the next tier.
-buy tentacle technique for 1 yen. this is your weapon permanently.
-you get a free tetrajammer from events. that is your armor permanently.
-DO NOT BUY ANYTHING ELSE UNLESS IT'S WITH JP, which you can get from PS payments
-no characters are useful to you EXCEPT yomi. because she starts with 10k magnetite, you can enhance her 7 times, which lets you enhance YOURSELF 7 times. i recommend putting it all in endurance.
-speaking of stats; i went with AGI>END>INT>MAG>LUCK>STR. because you are always going to be using tentacle technique in battle, your only real option for damage is your gun. END>AGI may have worked better in retrospect.
-when you fight mary-san, make sure it's the powered up version, because she'll give you way more exp.
-do NOT spend your MAG on enhancing your character's stamina/willpower

combat;
-you can freely switch two of your resistances through mag enhancement. if you don't know what else to do with them, put mind/nerve on absorb.
-there is an application that costs 1 macca which multiples mag gain by 100. buy it, make sure it's equipped forever.
-if you have tentacle technique equipped, instead of 'sword', 'gun', 'skill', etc, you can 'tentacle'. this will let you attack the enemy and convert your magnetite into tentacle power, which you can distribute to other characters for stamina/willpower.
-tentacle power CANNOT upgrade a character's stats. fuck you.
-for EVERY battle, once it is safe to do so, spam tentacle violate until your character runs out of MAG, fails to attack, and becomes HAPPY. then just switch to regular attacks or gun to finish them off.
-many battles will be dead easy because the enemies cannot damage you. you will quickly find out, though, that it still will take you dozens or hundreds of turns to finish them off.
-some enemies heal every turn. you have to outdamage them or you're soft-locked. power breath can help with this.
-even though you have many 75 percent resistances, you'll quickly find that this is nowhere near enough for long-term survival, and will often need to make fire/force/water/etc one of your absorptions to get through a battle.
-for enemies that have 3 or more elemental attacks that you can't just turn all into absorptions, you'll simply have to tank them by guarding until they run out of MP. some enemies have invigorate.
-later fights will be a balancing act between diarahan and guarding with invigorate medium.
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progression tips;
-the first touhou fight is with the faggot fairy trio that steals macca and yen from you. delay this battle until you can quickly wipe them out.
-a bunch of events are gated behind 10k contribution. again, make sure you've sold everything you can before you cross payment thresholds.
-do NOT do revue fights until you have no other option. they scale with your level, so they can give you around 10 levels regardless of where you're at. for me, i did them at around level 50.
-bang dream questline opens up mementos request; this is both a critical source of money and skill cards. of note, you get medium invigorate, life bonus, and endure. you also get tetrakarn, but i never had a use for it.
-as soon as you can get into the mementos progression, you don't need to get out. the only fight you can't win is the last one with the loli twins.
-a lot of later fights come down to having enough endurance to tank a few hits inbetween diarahan, especially including the later rabi-ribi fights.
-if you pinch every penny, you'll end up somewhere around 1.2 million yen. i also got an extra thousand macca from the card mini-game.

-Rabi-Ribi's [The truth remains untold] is your final boss.
-i made it to level 63 before fighting, AFTER beating all the revue girls.
-your absorptions should be dark and gravity.
-the first fight's gimmick is attacking you with dark, and breaking your dark resistance.
-she dealt decent damage, but it still took her dozens of turns to get my HP close to zero.
-just guard until you need to heal, wait for her MP to deplete, tentacle violate, then finish her off. power charge speeds things up.
-second battle is much the same, but you may not need to heal at all because of your gravity absorption
-third battle is a shitty, partially-luck-based slugfest. you need to watch your HP -CAREFULLY-.
-i needed to heal whenever i was below 800 hp, which was a lot of the time
-the enemy can hit you with megidolan and holy strike.
-if one of them crits, that's likely a one-shot.
-you need every ounce of defense and endurance you can get so she hits less hard.
-mercifully, none of these three enemies regenerate MP. so once they run out, you can tentacle violate, then gun them down with a thousand bullets.

endgame tips
-you need to make up the 2.3 million difference by selling a girl. you don't have forbidden knowledge or mixing knowledge, so you're limited in tools, especially those that cause abnormal exp for [lewd].
-this translates into needing a roughly 50k macca sale from a single girl after a maximum 5 sales.
-demons base sale price is their race's base sale price. humans base sale price is their level.
-the fight to get her is a bitch-ass motherfucker, but ERINA was the best option for me. she has a natural high level where most of your other characters are 30 or way lower, and she has good traits without being overly troublesome.
-NOAH probably would've had a similar result, since she's also level 50 without too horrible talents.
-because you don't have forbidden knowledge, you can't give them [huge ass], [big tits], and [lactating].
-shopping list; 10 aphrodisiac, whip, needle, expanding balloon, onahole, anal vibrator, clit cap, nipple caps. they're all fairly cheap.
-dump every ounce of tentacle energy you can into erina before starting to maximize both her stamina and willpower as much as possible.
-opening move is the classic whip then needle.
-aphrodisiacs up, vibrators on the both of you. you can transfer mag to her if you want, but it won't add up to much at all.
-footjob/blowjob as usual. don't go up to hostility 4. be stingy with her stamina.
-next training session, same thing but no whip/needle. go until you can't raise surrender/desire/surrender anymore. again, be stingy.
-third training session, force her to drink urine and expand/remove balloon. don't give her anal vibrator. alternate anal cowgirl/doggy style. be sure you're progressing on every requirement towards [lewd]
-fourth training session, you've HOPEFULLY already got [lewd], so just aphrodisiac, vibrators, anal cowgirl/doggy style until she runs out of stamina. i managed to get [anal maniac] at the very end.
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>>50857409
Can't wait for them to be properly added. And then to see Nanashi having Magic Skill Up and Pierce lmao.
I say lmao but if anything, that would be faitful to the game. Nanashi is probably the most busted MC of the entire franchise.

Would prefer V but I wouldn't complain.
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>>50857165
Revus is hilariously kino. A high never seen before.
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>>50857403
>There are so many weird, unique, and often op characters in the ex rag shop.

Which ones stand out to you?
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>>50857452
after everything, i have 10k macca and 244.5k yen left, so you probably don't need to be AS stingy as me... but only if you're a good whore trainer. i didn't remember what level the rabi-ribi girls were when they joined, or when they joined, or even that i could progress far enough to get them. and the next-best choices are a LOT worse due to their much lower level. Mio from gunparade march is an ice queen that's a pain to train, masscat has dogshit traits, and the rest are males where i can't easily change them into females. so i guess i would have raped Mr. T if it came down to it.
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>>50857450
>>50857452
>>50857473
Trainer's ending is only if you didn't get any endings right?
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>>50857488
all of the PS endings are 'non-additional' endings, yeah. and i believe that it offers lower numbered endings first.
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>>50857498
Thank you, I'll have something to do in my next playthrough.
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>>50857499
the gunparade event is untranslated, but there's another girl it can give besides Mio who MAYBE can net you 400 trainer fame. Mio's traits are just too difficult to overcome so quickly, but there aren't a whole lot of event/request/arena girls you can recruit that come at a decent level.
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for reference, here are the talent percentages for the other level 30plus characters. i got 639 out of 400 trainer fame off erina.
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>>50857510
Busy busy busy hm?
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>>50857468
I am by no means an expert both of people in the shop and honestly regular characters either, but a good place to start is anyone from blue archive, really. They all have like, 4 uniques minimum.
Adamanski was really interesting, she does almost zero damage but has true pierce and every hit lowers a random enemy stat, plus four all targeting uniques that lower attack, defense, magic effect, or magic power.
Tiki is a meter character that uses the meter in a way that isn't "you build it to full and then press it for the big attack".
I just wish you could actually like
Preview the characters at all
Even when you use the subscription service you can only look at base stats and moves, and not what they'll learn.
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I had forgotten how much of a pain in the ass the coal mine was. You can't just tell multiple characters to work at the same time, or to work until they can't.
You have to choose a character, and painfully tell them to work, one by one, act by act.
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>>50857531
Concerts and the mines are genuinely "balanced" by being super annoying to do.
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>>50857532
At least you can ask everyone to go to the concert until they are tired. And Group Concert only have 3 Group.
And both can only be one once per turn.
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>>50856314
>Requiem promised to have more frequent updates
I don't recall ever promising that. I'm just going about things the same way I've always been, and there have been a decent amount of fixes and updates since then.
>and already mentioned adding the newest hus but that was 2 months ago
I'm still waiting for the Japanese to finish them, since it's a pain to maintain things otherwise, but it doesn't seem there's been much movement on their end.
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>>50857537
Nta but Requiem was totally because of the Requiem stand, right?
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>>50857574
It's because he wants credit as the "main" developer of TW.
Basically the same high the other guy was on, what with "his" game and all that.
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>>50857592
...What's up with all the hate?
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I think it's interesting that siding with Homura is a big L/L shift.
Even if you think Homura is doing the right thing in Rebellion (and that's pretty damn debatable) altering the fundamental force of the universe for your own personal gain seems extremely chaos to me.
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>>50857600
If you make the laws then clearly anything you do is law!
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>>50857600
I guess it's fine, because the end result is as far as Rebellion? You do end up saving everyone and helping Madoka's work.
It's opposed to the actual Rebellion movie, where Homura commit the ultimate act of selfishness.
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>>50857524
>a good place to start is anyone from blue archive

I noticed that Hoshino has a party-covering barrier that takes damage for the party.

I know she's supposed to fulfill the tank role for your party, but has anyone actually used that barrier in a serious fight? How much damage does it soak and how long does it last? If it only lasts for the turn she uses it on then you might as well use T-san for your tank instead, at least his taunt lasts for three turns and he can heal himself for cheap.
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Rag's shop is also something to put characters that people would add later on apparently.
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>>50857636
Technically yes, but usually no. It's more often just the dumping ground for characters that don't get events(which is fine, but you shouldn't expect characters there to get event chains usually).
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>>50857653
What's funny is that Marfusha does get a storyline, but you wouldn't know that since she is literally around a dozen of characters that don't.
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>>50857636
>>50857653
I think that functions more for those that are actually from megaten.
Like theoretically, someday 4A will have content.
Probably before 4 is finished, knowing this game.
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>>50857655
That's being optimistic.
At least we can tinker with the characters a bit.
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>>50857658
More than some others get.
I can't believe we don't even have the Nahobino in the jewel shop.
The guys looks like he BELONGS in a porn game.
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>>50857660
We do had an anon that was working on it. He was VERY advanced in it, he got every skills.

Knowing the japs, they wouldn't do even half of it all.
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>>50857661
Meanwhile they'd probably do an entire in-depth questline with pictures and ASCII and everything for fucking Saikano of all things
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>>50857661
Well, if we don't finish it and put it in either we can't exactly shit talk.
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>>50857665
I don't think that's a good thing.

>>50857667
Oh I can daddy!
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>>50857665
I'd rather have some random dude's passion project for whatever random show or game than modern mainline to be honest. I mean I'd take both, but if I had to choose only one I want the former. Of course my actual first choice would be older stuff that doesn't really have a whole lot like imagine, last bible, or NINE. Finishing the SJ dungeon would be neato too.
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>>50857665
>>50857668
Honestly I like that a lot of weird obscure stuff gets a lot of content in this.
I didn't even know megaten HAD trpgs but Night Tale is peak content.
Plus I feel that there's less pressure to work on something with less fans. Is anyone gonna be too upset if a guy takes liberties with say, Last Bible? But the DDS/P5 crossover has real haters.
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>>50857678
>But the DDS/P5 crossover has real haters.
NO SHIT
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>>50857677
NINE is kind of doomed, Sumire is somehow in an SMTII event.
SJ is up there with MT on the question Why isn't it completed?

>>50857678
>Honestly I like that a lot of weird obscure stuff gets a lot of content in this.
>I didn't even know megaten HAD trpgs but Night Tale is peak content.
It really was, but you don't find them at Rag's.
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>>50857678
>Is anyone gonna be too upset if a guy takes liberties with say, Last Bible?
As long as we get a God Nakajima boss fight.
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>>50857683
We would need normal Nakajima to not suck in the first place. Or Yumiko.
...Or maybe NOT doing the normal route could open Last Bible route?
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>>50857682
>Sumire is somehow in an SMTII event.
Because NINE takes place between 1 and 2.
>>50857689
Clearly the MT route would lead into it and clearing it would give the playable version a power up. Or since LB characters are in the card game mode already just fight him in children's card games. I'd accept that too.
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>>50857693
>Because NINE takes place between 1 and 2.
Point was, it's a bit difficult to make a route of something, if the characters are all around the place.
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>>50857682
Well Strange Journey is a huge fucking dungeon so it's clearly a lot of work.
Nine is definitely a never ever. How many people even played it given the xbox's history of poor japanese sales? Although I guess ironically the tube people being emotional The Matrix batteries would fit in pretty well, I think.
That's basically what phantom is doing already but with sex, if I remember the Executive ending right.
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>>50857693
The route is all about you being the Demon King.

Nakajima evolving into God Nakajima would give me a rock hard boner though.
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>>50857695
We have Marsh... who did the Law Version. Shite!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xagrqmJAfUM

What surprises me a lot, is that SJ doesn't even introduct Gore, Zelenin, Jimenez, or the goat, Bugaboo.
The potential of their transformations are insane. And that's without talking about Mommy Aleph.
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>>50857694
They could just focus on Baraki instead, since NINE swaps the twos role's depending on the MC's gender. Of course you'd have to get someone who not only played NINE but liked it enough to make a route first. That's the real hurdle.
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>>50857720
Or at least, know the big lines, but not make it small that it make something unreadable.
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Is there some kind of logic to persuade? Like it's based on Int or compatibility or something?
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>>50857742
Alignment, and Popular.
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>>50857742
Alignment, social traits on your character and INT score
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>>50857677
Strange Journey is perfectly positioned as a storyline where the player is hired by Jack's Squad and can choose to either stick with them and fight the crew of the Red Sprite, or betray them and partner with the heroes instead. There's really solid options for a cohesive little story there, as long as we pretend the shitty 3DS port doesn't exist.
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>>50857756
>as long as we pretend the shitty 3DS port doesn't exist.
But I liked the New Chaos/Law endings...
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>>50857761
They're an insult to the original work and I absolutely despise Atlus for fucking with it. It's genuinely just anti-art.
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>>50857756
>>50857761
I liked the 3DS port, but Alex now has a special dungeon, so...
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>>50857756
>jacks squad
Eramegaten adaptation of that one doujin when? Cmon, you know that part of the game is begging for it if the SJ dungeon ever got expanded to include it.
>>50857761
They miss the entire point of the original's story. I can get liking some of the gameplay changes(get, not agree with) or the additional dungeon content, but the port utterly shits the bed on the story front.
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>>50857770
That one doujin eh?

>They miss the entire point of the original's story
The original story was fucking retarded, and the start of the strawmaning of every alignment other than Nootral.
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>>50857772
I'm gonna disagree there.
Law and Chaos being stupid idiots is as old as the very idea of the alignments.
The neutral ending of 1 just flat out says neither should ever win over the other.
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>>50857765
>>50857770
Maybe I'm just a soppy woo-woo boy, but I thought it was nice to be able to sort of "save" your respective alignment rep from going down a completely self-destructive route in some capacity and reject the dogma of Mem Aleph/Mastema and the Wise Men
With how often alignment reps would effectively ruin themselves and everyone else at large, being able to defy that is kinda nice
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>>50857777
Meanwhile, SMT 2, 3, DS, be like...
So you can all stick it where I think. Fuck that trash. If the devs aren't capable of doing correct alignment paths without being biased because they are retarded or because of muh message, they should fuck off.
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>>50857778
That's the beauty of it. New Law/Chaos is about them becoming more human, softer. Where New Neutral is realizing that you are an absolute faggot. As if the normal Neutral wasn't alarming enough, but I guess ignoring stuff is their strong points.
Yeah, I'm sure saving the world and telling humanity about demons is going to go real well, and solve stuff like, world hunger, ressource problems, pollution, and shit.

God, SJ was retarded. Great game, but hilariously retarded.
Not to say that SJR wasn't. Why is Alex even there?
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>>50857772
Neutral's ending is just as much of a bad end as chaos and law. The whole point of the original game was to showcase the extremes of each alignment.
>absolute law, to the point of reducing man to little more than a prayer machine
>absolute chaos, to the point of reducing man to beast
>absolute neutrality, to the point of not solving any of the issues and just kicking the can down the road to be someone else's problem
And then Deep comes and makes you a time janny that magically solves everything.
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>>50857786
Bullshit, it made it pretty clear that Hoomanity should ALWAYS call the shot, they even got the balls to make a hopeful close up to the sky.
Fucking Gore is there to spit out the message in your face. Fucking retarded Gore.

...
As you can see, I have strong opinions about alignment, the strawmanification of everything not Nootral or Hooman. I'm passionate. Like Hitler.
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>>50857786
I think the issue is just that law and chaos have always been portrayed as just terrible options for humanity on the whole.
Like I guess if you're a pious good boy Law isn't THAT bad if you don't give even one single shit about having any personal thoughts of your own. And chaos is only ever cool because you are the fittest in survival of the fittest when you reach the ending.
You can barely make them more extreme than they were at base.
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>>50857790
Neutral's end solves absolutely nothing and while technically humanity could change the game spent the entire playtime hammering home that there was basically zero chance of it. It's pretty explicit that the Schwarzwelt will reappear. All neutral achieves is making it someone else's problem, a fuck you I got mine end if you will.
>>50857796
2 presents the options mostly alright for everyone involved, well everyone left alive at that point.
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>>50857798
2 opens with law trying to kill everyone except the 1% after having been left to their own devices for 30 years or so.
And it is 100% Law's fault the world even ended in the original timeline. They launched the nukes AND flooded the world.

And Chaos is just genuinely for edgelords and always has been.
Your ass will not rise to the top, brothers. You are being eaten by the fist demon that comes out of your computer.
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>>50857796
>I think the issue is just that law and chaos have always been portrayed as just terrible options for humanity on the whole.
SMT 2, SMT3. Or even SMT1 despite what the buddhist vagueposter says. No, seriously he IS a vagueposting character.
Though 2 really make it clear that going Law or Chaos would have been bad, Neutral just assured that Boi died alone and left his Cerberus alone.
At least the Cyberpunk world is cool with sickass designs.

>And chaos is only ever cool because you are the fittest in survival of the fittest when you reach the ending.
And you are best pal with Lucifer, who is, most of the time, a chill guy. Hard to make Survival of the fittest look bad when Big Lu is nice.
It's probably why they made IV's Lucifer so different, and make VV to clean everything up.

>>50857798
Normal Neutral make it pretty hopeful, VERY hopeful, you'd have to be blind. It's New Neutral who is deep into the 'Congrats, you saved humanity, but humanity learned nothing.'
Which make it a miracle that Humanity is still alive somehow, because if they learned nothing, that mean they should have even less ressources, with even more polution and etc.
There's an argument to be made it's about the Love of Life, but still.

>2 presents the options mostly alright for everyone involved, well everyone left alive at that point.
You are making poor, sweet Satan awkward! If he wasn't immediatly going to judge YHVH personally, he would have been way less cool.
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>>50857798
Reminder that Lucifer stole Tadano's sperm to make Alex.
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>>50857809
2's law end ends pretty well. For everyone left alive(very important quantifier). And 2's chaos end is arguably the best ending of the game.
>>50857813
>Normal Neutral make it pretty hopeful, VERY hopeful
The fuck it is.
>>50857816
It's not theft if it's given willingly.
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>>50857823
>And 2's chaos end is arguably the best ending of the game.
THANK YOU.

>The fuck it is.
>'It is unknown' just after the big close up to the sky..
It's hopeful.
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>there are "people" in this thread who willingly side with the angels or demons who put them in the awful situation in the first place
Cowardly species traitors, the lot of you.
Earth for humanity, slaughter every last god or demon.
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>>50857826
>It's hopeful.
Tell me anon, how is Tadano and his crew going to stop humanity from doing all the shit that caused the planet swallowing interdimensional black hole to appear in the first place? The game makes it clear that if humanity doesn't change it's ways the Schwarzwelt will show up again.
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>>50857823
>It's not theft if it's given willingly.
I don't think traversing Tadano count as given willingly. I could be wrong though.
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>>50857835
Sorry anon, but the demons are too cute to ignore
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>>50857835
Can I keep the demons as pets instead?
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>>50857835
>siding with (((humanity)))
nah dude I'm booking it to Krishna or Dagda first chance I get
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>>50857836
The whole point of the ending is it being hopeful. Like with 1, like with IV.

Now will it succeed? That's the question, again, it's hopeful. Of course we all know it's retarded, there is no way it will actually work, especially if we use that organ called brain, but the devs don't do that.
Which is why New Neutral is great. "Eat shit you faggot, humanity fuck no." It's something you can believe, you should believe because basic bitch logic is like that.
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>>50857841
Hell no. I'm siding with my bro Dagda. No way I'm siding with Pre-Jesus Jesus with a fedora.
Dagda is perhaps the only friend Nanashi genuinely have, unironically, despite how Dagda forces his hand at the start.
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>>50857838
>pic
I hate how I find this demon cute and attractive.
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>>50857852
Nothing wrong with wanting to bone a giant cyclopean fish woman with BIG bazongas
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>>50857857
Other than living with the fact you have roughly the same taste in women as Mike Wazowski.
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>>50857847
Would you really trust a demon who wants you to be like a mother to him?
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>>50857857
But she only have BIG bazongas. Her body is kind of wrong.
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>>50857861
Can he hook me up with a Sazabi?
Then yes, absolutely.
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>>50857861
>who wants you to be like a mother to him?
Nani doko? I don't want to imagine Dagda calling Nanashi, Mother.
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>>50857867
Best he can do is a geara doga whose armor is so thin vulcans tear through it.
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>>50857871
He is voiced by Char and wears a mask. And has mother issues.
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>>50857876
His mother is a turbo retard cunt to be fair.
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>>50857880
it's 4A, everyone is retarded
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>>50857882
Except Dagda, Krishna's gang, and you if you decide to go Massacre.
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>>50857882
The only good part of 4A is making Adramelech shit his pants when he realizes you're way more ruthless then he ever could be.
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>>50857890
It was! It really was! I wish they did more of that! Most of the time, it's just the partner being pissed. Seeing No one steals Nanashi's Press Turns like Gaston being pissed because you don't believe him is hilarious and annoying.

Meanwhile, you can use Asahi as a shield against Adramelech. BASED.
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I wonder where Keianon is. His project was pretty cool, and actually made me want to use a Nahobino for once.
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>>50858055
I wonder that too
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>>50858107
Dude made an actually good VV content.
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>>50857574
Yeah, pretty much. But also because it sounds cool.
>>50857592
Is it really so hard to believe that I disagree with a bunch of the stuff being put into the game and absolutely do not want any of Pops' crap?
>>50857596
I mean, I can be pretty abrasive, so it's not surprising that it rubs people the wrong way, but I stand by the notion that everything I do comes from a sincere passion to have this game be as good as can be.
So anyway, next up is probably balls. This game really could benefit a lot from more focus on ball-related gameplay.
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>>50858183
>I mean, I can be pretty abrasive, so it's not surprising that it rubs people the wrong way, but I stand by the notion that everything I do comes from a sincere passion to have this game be as good as can be.
That's what I gathered from what I've seen. Plus, you are doing your own things in your own zone, so I don't see why this guy is angry.

>So anyway, next up is probably balls.
Huh, really? I would have gone for the gang bangs.
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>>50858183
Ball... crushing?
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>>50858195
Sorry dude, but I love balls. I want to hold them, and rub them, and beat people up to collect all seven and make a wish. It's all crucial to improve the game.
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>>50858219
So you looooooove them balls, right?
>beat people up to collect all seven and make a wish
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Kino, but you may as well put the Requiem Arrow.
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I heard talk of balls
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>>50858234
That's not balls, that's orbs.
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In eraten, following Law is the good choice for Phantom Society members. I will explain the benefits of making the world of God for the MC:

1. Weak and helpless Takeshi can live happily.

2. Peaceful world means stable business and stable income for the MC to pay Phantom Society.

3. Being the savior that fights for God (and Phantom Society) gives the MC the technologies to turn normal people into MC's devotees (They will be convert into Beth) to work for you. For successful products, we let the Beths praise God (and you) in your churches (or Concert Hall/Restaurant). For failed products, we let them work in the farm/Factory.

4. Almost all people only see the MC as the great savior and this helps the pervert MC to get (buy/kidnap) more elementary school students to stay at the MC's town (sex dungeon). The MC is a landowners (Eraten's Epstein).

5. We fight for justice (Law) to protect the peace (interests of other rich people and politicians like the MC).

The bad thing is the MC is guaranteed to be a target of the evil Phantom Thief of Heart (If they are a native of eraten's world, they have a very high chances to be a victim of the MC's actions).
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>>50858267
>Phantom Thief of Heart
Still salty about about that shit. We could have had an entire storyline with choices and characters, but nooooo, why being smart and fun?
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>>50858267
Which part of the failed mass production beth is the tastiest?
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>>50858267
but lawfags are gay and lame. chaos is better because chaos is cool
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>>50858284
And because you can ally with Lucifer in punching God in the face.
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>>50858286
You can ally with Satan and punch god in the face with law.
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>>50858305
Lucifer >> Satan.
But just a bit.
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>>50858224
>Kino, but you may as well put the Requiem Arrow.
That's basically the ability to play as existing characters, when you think about it.
Mostly I just want to create incentives to interact more with the danmaku gameplay, since there's currently not much reason to bother after getting all the achievements, so offering a way to get permanent boosts to base stats as a bonus helps flesh it out as a mechanic. Bullet Money and Black/Rainbow Markets will probably be another addition, focusing more on (rare) consumables.
A lot of the game would benefit from being more closely integrated, so that's one of the things I'm focusing on.
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>"NOOOOOOO, HUMANITY IS DOOMED IF THEY DON'T SELL THEIR SOUL TO SATAN OR GET BRAINWASHED BY THE GIGA-JEW ANGEL!!!!!"
You do know the problems had piled on for years before it got to the point the Schwarzwelt, right? It didn't happened overnight
Humanity as a whole doesn't have to get it's shit together, it just has to get it's shit together "enough" so it doesn't become a problem
Then we terraform Mars, fuck Earth, the only reason it's important its because we live there
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>>50858342
>That's basically the ability to play as existing characters, when you think about it.
Gaaaaaaay.

>Mostly I just want to create incentives to interact more with the danmaku gameplay, since there's currently not much reason to bother after getting all the achievements, so offering a way to get permanent boosts to base stats as a bonus helps flesh it out as a mechanic. Bullet Money and Black/Rainbow Markets will probably be another addition, focusing more on (rare) consumables.
>A lot of the game would benefit from being more closely integrated, so that's one of the things I'm focusing on.
Actually, good call.
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In the special summoning they could give the races of the demons needed.
The Compendium is just too big.
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>>50858183
>>50858217
>next up is probably balls
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>>50857537
I'm sure those are all neat and worthwhile fixes to you as a developer but to a casual player they all mean nothing
>>50858195
some people are hungry for active namefag drama again with the other main devs dead, and this guy is mostly known for adding an event treated as a nuisance by everyone but himself because of how aggressively it interrupted everything
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>>50858272
Considering the amount of side characters and spinoffs, the fact we haven't gotten a proper P5 route outside of the BanG Dream girls is criminal
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>>50858749
Criminal is an understatement. The waste is disgustingly big.
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>>50858774
No Zenkichi...no Jail rulers...no Leviathan Sae.....no fightan the Thieves in your own mind palace....no using Cognitive Psience to pull a Maruki of your own doing.....no Hikari and the cinemas....urgh.....
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>>50858809
No saving or taking Shiho... NO ANYTHING.
Jesus fucking christ, just, one awkward stupid route for what should have been three route.
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Tsukasa translation wen

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