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the sharpest thread on /k/
chris reeve edition because everyone is buying sebenzas
last thread recap
>anon pulls a knife from the ocean >>64815356
>size doesnt matter >>64815450
>microtech anons unemployment hobby >>64818204
>nobody can decide if we like the livewire >>64822024
>anon is very, very poor >>64834690
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looking for a fixed blade with 100% straight sheepsfoot and stainless steel. Basically a fixed blade version of pic related. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Seems like 99% of "sheepsfoot" blades on the market aren't real sheepsfoot and have a curve on them.
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>>64862956
technically not a knife, but I bought a Wilkinson made presentation tulwar from my favorite dealer in the UK. For a police officer during the war (WWI) from another in the area, some sort of masonic connection, no real leads beyond that. It is almost an anti tulwar being narrow and proportionately thick to my eyes. Hilt was cast brass I believe, finely cast, almost as good as the hilt makers in Paris who are unparalleled (don't worry, the Brits tended towards silver, steel, and gilt brass generally with just as good skill). I am unsure if the black was a resin they filled in or simply chemically darkening the brass and polishing the raised elements. But either way, it is a sort of cool way to get a koftgari appearance the opposite direction. Blade is very strongly etched as well, 84cm blade which is also pretty long for a tulwar, really curious to see how it feels. Non-regulation/presentation swords like these used to be extremely common but almost none survived. You can find old-internet forums of black and white scans of even older Wilkinson and Mole and Reeves catalogs showing options to buyers in the British Empire including flammard blades and other things. And unfortunately that is all we will ever know of to prove their existence. Rare swords like presentation 100ukp swords given to sultans in India, custom gifts from future King George (V) or Edward (VII) written in ledgers, it's a bit like reading accounts of great monuments or fragments of Tolkien's notes that were never finished and I wish I could uncover some of the things lost to time.
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>>64863153
Damn yeah you werent kidding on few knives actually being straight. Do you not want the Baby Penguin? Toor has a really nice one but it slightly curves. Any length requirements? For shits and giggles get the medford balisong and just tape the grip open: https://eknives.com/medford-viceroy-balisong-butterfly-knife-antique-g reen-titanium-4-8-sheepsfoot-tumble d/
Or this 'thing' https://eknives.com/medford-viceroy-balisong-butterfly-knife-antique-g reen-titanium-4-8-sheepsfoot-tumble d/
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>>64862956
How about knives that you frankenstiened?
This thing is a mix of Spyderco copper scales, standared G10 black scales, knockoff chink liners and a rex 45 blade
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>>64863509
>qsp baby penguin
thanks anon, this is exactly what I was looking for.
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>>64863880
Also I love this one. Scales are from Suingab. Bought many scales from him, great person
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>>64863804
Can you elaborate further? I focus in non-regulation British and French (with a smattering of Swiss, Swedish, and Italian as secondary) 19th century sabres. Most of what Wilkinson made at least prior to say 1930 was top quality shit. Not always the most martial like lots of levee swords, but this looks like a fairly pricey presentation sword. Yeah post WWII most swords are rubbish, but are you referring to the maker? The type of sword? What?
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>>64863880
Not really frankenstein yet and it's still unfinished but I got myself a Tod Workshop Rothenburg Ballock dagger for my birthday in 2024. I didn't like the grip being slightly off so I sanded the absolute fuck out of the ebony. It is just like 500x ren wax'd right now but I should probably remove that and try and BLO the ebony a few times. Really want as glass smooth a grip as possible. Img 1 was from the listing (dead link)
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>>64864017
And this is what it looks like now. All the parts on the cap are slightly raised out so I could get the ebony underneath that. Just a simple matter of using the flat of a screwdriver to press them down when the time comes.
I got the horn eating knife and prick and am going to make a fur lined wood core sheath for the set as was period. Polished the fuck out of the horn on the knife so it's just as smooth and glossy.
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I'd hoped the M4 blade would take a patina after I sandblasted the low quality coating (really thick and easily damaged compared to my S30V 940's coating) but all I get is some surface rust if I work outdoors and get really sweaty. I like the monotone look, though.
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my new knoif
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my current knive collection. What do you guys think? Just got the Buick 110 recently, what knife should i get next. I want a military survival knive like the Ka-bar. any suggestions?
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>>64869165
https://ragweedforgestore.com/collections/peltonen
Peltonen M07 or M95 depending on how long you want. Not a bad start.
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>>64867121
monochrome is the way
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two recent purchases for my collection, plus an alox victorinox for scale.
both have an outwardly button locking mechanism, however mechanically they function quite different from another.
up top is a Herbertz with a central lock mechanism, designed by Wolf Borger. made around 1999. shape-wise it takes heavily from Terzuola's Starfighter design. All stainless steel, and unlike most of Herbertz' lineup, it's not made in China but in Solingen by an unknown company. The locking utilizes a ball bearing, this video details it quite well. no need to speak the language. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-GajeDMRtQ
Locks both open and closed, but relying on a small bearing as only surface the locking mechanism isn't particularly great; it easily develops play and can fail a spinewhack test.
Below it is an Explorer. Also made in Solingen, but in the 80s. Sort of Buck 110 style, but smaller and with stag scales. Nicely finished (as is the Herbertz).
Its locking mechanism, designed by Frank Boyd, works very differently, and is way more solid, with a square locking piece. This also gives it a locking 90° halfstop, but with a bit of play unlike the open and closed positions which are rock-solid. On the other side of the blade it says the US patent number: https://patents.google.com/patent/US4750267A/en which explains clearly how it works. I'd much rather trust this one than the Herbertz, but I worry what would happen if the internal mechanism gunked up over time because unlike the Herbertz, where the locking axis unscrews allowing cleaning, you can't disassemble the Explorer in any way that doesnt involve unpinning.
I found that there's actually a 3-pack of these Explorers for $330 on Arizona Custom Knives right now if you're interested. https://www.arizonacustomknives.com/products/1118501/
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What would be some candidates for a folding lunch box steak knife?
>Straight point or very minimal drop
>3 to 4 inches blade length
>no embellishments / crevices for bacteria to get stuck in
>easy to take apart and throw inna dishwasher once a week
>stainless blade, stainless handles
>washer pivot
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>>64871691
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/KS5700/kai-5700-personal-folding-stea k-knife-satin-blade-zytel-handles-l eather-sheath
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In!
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>>64872825
Never catch a falling blade. I made that mistake 2 or 3 times and each time I needed stitches.
I read an account of a woman who dropped a scientific cutting instrument and tried to catch it, and it was basically nano-meter sharp. Cut straight through her skin, vessels, nerves, muscle, the whole nine yards. The only reason she didn't die was there was a professor or scientist of human anatomy that pinched her brachial artery within seconds.
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>>64872825
Finally a queen worthy of this King.
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Apex is the first otf i have that doesn't seem like the manufacturer is assuming I'm a retard who is going to stab it into tree stumps and pry on it sideways all day. Love the thin needle-like point it comes to and the deep, thin hollow grind. I'm sure that kind of design choice comes with a higher RMA rate which is why i haven't seen it elsewhere but it's still nice to be trusted to be a sane adult in 2026.
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Bought a cheap otf knife.
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>>64867295
please tell me you paid more than 50 bucks for that, i need the laugh.
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>>64878725
most otfs i have rattle a lot, it doesn't bother me nor does it affect its cutting performance. The ones with the least/no rattle in my collection are Axial Shift V3's if you want a suggestion. Little to no button play as well.
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>>64862956
>SEBENZA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3-5lbzaQdU
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I have an Italian otf knife and the spring seems to be broken, any clue where I can find a replacement because the only ones I see commonly available are for like microtechs or other tacticool knives
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>>64880302
I have a locking knife, a flashlight, and a sak on me usually. I dont believe that is excessive since I use them often.
>>64880591
You're probably going to need to buy from a spring maker
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EDCsisters... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAD0a6wWFrI
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>>64869357
Based.
>>64869399
Same here. The Seb in particular does it really well, super slim and minimal but still manages to be ergonomic. I also recently got a CRKT Overland and it's obviously a budget knife but I think it's a pretty nice design, and I really like the combo of G10 on the left scale but a metal framelock slab on the right.
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I am torn on this subject. My shift starts well before sunup, but I might be the only one that carries a flashlight. Sometimes I actually need a small prybar, though I have yet to find the right one. I need to grind my Gerber Shard to a finer point. Knives are one of man’s oldest tools, so I give a lot of leeway for refined “pocket jewelry,” and pushing the envelope with new materials. All this to say, you should be prepared, and people who aren’t disgust me.
On the other hand, spending $300 on Chinese knives for reddit updoots should land you on oil rigs for reeducation.
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>>64883911
Part of the issue is that the internet is so fucking poor now. Between thirdies and zoomers who've been screwed over it's really hard to explain that $300 is not that much money without sounding like an asshole. But $300 is not a lot of money. $10k really isn't either.
Knives are a pretty endgame point of 'quality of life', obviously fund your retirement, have a car that runs, have a nice place to live, etc. before dumping cash into knives. But the world runs on commerce, wealth flows around in cardboard boxes.
A knife that takes a long time to dull is legitimately nice if you do anything commerce related or receive shipments. Do I need three CRK's? No, but it is nice.
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>>64882168
EK had a drop of the Nemesis IV and the Halo...missed both. Hate to say it but it looks like Tony is aping more off of Heretic than the other way around. Especially the new Halo. There was actually 1 in stock linked here: https://eknives.com/microtech-marfione-select-halo-iv-otf-3-8-m390-cli p-point-stonewash-1150-10ms1/ (sold now) and it just looked too ugly to me. I get it, the old narrowbody otfs needed some more texture but it was that slick machined action that was always the appeal to me. Way too organic of a shape now and doesnt have the same appeal. Especially the sides holy shit that is ass fucking ugly who told him to make knives for the Dark Eldar?
Still want a Nemesis although that one feels like Tony trying to fight Heretic's Cleric II in some ways while also still being a straight body.
https://eknives.com/microtech-marfione-select-nemesis-iv-otf-black-alu minum-4-4-m390-dagger-stonewash-115 2-10ms1 looks closer to the old Halo than the current halo does
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>>64884477
If he really wanted to fight the Cleric... he'd bring the Venomtech back.
Yeah... I'd buy a Halo if I still had the employee discount just for the giggle factor, but god damn is it an ugly fucker.
Semi-related news, I picked up an Exodus the other day from a pawn shop.
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Trying to tell boomers that a shitty 3bed2bath house is $300k minimum and in order to afford that you'd have to work for 5+ years without taxes, food, gas, or any other expenses just to buy the house, and they think you're trying to buy a fucking mansion in Beverly Hills.
So you try to explain how much they fucked the economy by letting all of our jobs go overseas while importing a couple million Mexicans so local jobs pay fuck-all, and then they enacted draconian zoning laws and a byzantine permitting / code scheme in order to increase the value of their $5000 house so it's now $2.5 million, and they scream at you and call you coddled and snobby, and refuse to help you because you're clearly lazy and useless.
Oh and don't forget they swallowed the propaganda of "only white people are racist" and ignore the trend of abusing H1B visas, Indians only hiring Indians as soon as they get in management, welfare fraud, and the ever-increasing requirements of management / corporate, requiring a masters degree to even apply, so you get outside hires from Harvard with a fresh MBA that tell your bosses to do stupid shit to make 5% more profit this quarter, but then you lose half your customers because you fucked them over on something.
Then they sell all their shit to BlackRock and go on a cruise for 30 years wasting all the money, leaving you to rent a shitty 1 bedroom apartment 2 hours away from your job that pays nothing, and then they die and leave you no house, no money, a crumbling economy and a country that's being taken advantage of by shitstains who come from a culture where "honor" and "morals" are things to exploit rather than things to aspire to and hold on a pedestal.
Yes, I'm fucking mad.
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>>64884939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e29RiBUvTxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVxh5oRrjUw
Posting the old venomtech videos BladeHQ made that made me get mine as a retarded 20 something in college winter 2014. I really want a good stiletto but for some fucking reason Italy loves 440c blades or they are too ugly and fat. I just want brass caps, a nice walnut or ebony scale, and fuck even 154cm would be good enough for me.
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>>64883522
I actually have a lot more, those are just the ones that matched stuff in the other pic.
Absolutely ancient pic but it's got most of the interesting stuff, the only real highlights in the last few years are a couple of Case traditional folder.
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>>64884992
Wow what the hell is this. How does that blade fit in that handle? Does it even..?
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i feel like boomers were spending $70 on restaurant dinners a couple times a month back in the day. but, its treated as """ludicrous""" to spend the equivalent of that on a decent pocket knife once or twice a year.
and, from what i see stat wise it's only getting worse... the handful of wealthy millenials minted by tech/ecomm/crypto/etc. just doesn't exist for the younger gen, and the 45+% un/under employment stat for college grads wise only getting worse.
its weird being 26 and /not/ being fucked. meanwhile 90% of people I know are so ungodly fucked i can barely wrap my head around how they exist. all because im entry level white collarish and dont have debt
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>>64885301
It came with a sheath. Yes it was goofy. I still like it.
>>64885343
Dude I can't even imagine spending more than 30 bucks on a dinner for myself, let alone 75. I basically don't eat out at all, haven't gone to the range in ages, buy cheap cuts of meat in bulk, even sometimes buying food stamps. I'm lucky enough to have a job where I don't pay for the gas and I'm paid well above minimum wage, but it's not a white collar office job so people look down their nose at me. It's super frustrating now my especially when you watch any classic movies and somebody is talking about buying a new car for their son with a entry level job essentially.
It's sincerely makes one understand why exactly the funny mustache man got elected.
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pic found on an ebay listing. i find it funny
>hmm, what background should I choose for this rusted, somewhat dubious looking knife
>ah yes, perfect
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Pic related; the best pocket knife for people who actually use a pocket knife daily
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>>64887193
Too big. I carry an EAB everyday, does not need to be bigger for the tasks a utility blade usually does.
Unless your job is actually using a utility blade 1000 times a day, in that case I'd hope you would have something more specialized.
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that screwdriver bit on the fastback looks like it'll dig into your palms if you have to spend a lot of time scoring and cutting materials, like for a construction job. a more rounded and softer handle would be better.
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>>64888139
Check out the chewed up blade. Definitely not cutting boxing all day, bud.
I can't stand using a leatherman as a daily pocket tool for work. Takes too long to get to any of tools and I have a pair of pliers in my back pocket anyway. I just need a blade, screwdriver and channellocks on my person. Everything else is in the toolbag or a quick walk to the truck.
But to each their own.
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waiting on a grimsmo rask in green or bronze to pop up and genuinely plan on carrying it nearly ever day. gifted most of the knives i had that i didn't have a use for but still have a couple nicer folders and couple low-mid range stuff to beat on.
picrel is exactly what i want
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>>64888894
why though? never understood why grimsmo nerfs their knives with rule34 steel. even if the action is mechanical perfect and the thing is crafted by the gods, this design choice seems like its intended to be a show piece not carry.
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>>64887193
For me it's the hawkbill.
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>>64888985
yeah agreed, it's embarrassing that they use it at the price point they ask but the design, green/bronze anodizing, action, and largely the fact they're making them near my hometown suckers me in. if they were anywhere else or there were more manufacturers in this country i probably wouldn't care unless i could get one for 30-50% off.
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>>64888929
The same reason other small-production and custom makers use it, it's much easier to work with and finish than the really exotic supersteels while still being a very good steel. Acting like it's somehow not a carry-worthy knife because of RWL35 is wild considering it's a better steel than what you get with 99.9% of knives that actually get carried and used in the real world, and in some ways it could actually be considered a better choice since it's tougher and much easier to maintain and sharpen than the more exotic options.
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>>64888929
What's wrong with s30v tier steel? That's really good steel. I bet most steel snobs would daily carry 420hc with a proper heat treat and not know the difference between it and their precious magnacut... geometry and heat treat are most important.
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It's different with a huge knife company like Benchmade vs. a small semi-custom maker like Grimsmo, though. Benchmade has a lot of economy of scale so expectations for pricing are totally different. Ease of manufacturing and finishing also matters a lot more to a company like Grimsmo than one of the big mass producers, Benchmade or Spyderco or whoever can basically laser a chunk of steel out, run it through a surface grinder and a tumbler, and call it a day, and people will just be happy they've got Magnacut or whatever, but the expectations for finish quality on a Grimsmo are much higher and it means they have to consider aesthetics in their steel choice as much as performance. Grimsmo in particular also have the extra handicap of wrapping their whole brand image up in the fact that their knives are totally CNC machined so they have to choose steels that suit that process too.
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>>64889006
i didnt say its not carry worthy but for a grimsmo knife ($700? $1000?) i would want super steel. thats a super price. theyre supposed to be the greatest craftsman, why am i accepting a steel that's 'easier to work with' than one thats superior to carry.
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again, s30v is fine, but theres a price point at which its sub optimal. when decent memenacut is $120, and benchmade is still selling s30 knives for $300+, there's an imbalance. i literally own a benchmade s30v knife, i like it a lot, but it is not a value proposition.
>magnacut... geometry and heat treat
you can have all of these things actually. and above $300 or so dollarydoos i pretty much expect all three.
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>>64889023
It's really funny how fast knife steels change relatively speaking. I remember about a decade ago now the generalish tier list was 440<1080<154cm<S30 where 1080 was like BCM, 154cm was equivalent to DD, and S30V+ was into the "high end" bracket for knives. Like for benchmade 154cm was most common with S30/35V being on a few models. I had one of the OG Infidels in D2 steel and got a replacement with the S30v blade and that was like "wow"
Even the meme Venomtech I got was Elmax and that was the top of the top of the top of the end back then. Now even the bespoke super steels have a year or 2 of rarity before they filter down and if your $50 knife doesn't have Magnacut, you got ripped off.
Not even complaining or anything, just like AR15s, we are living in a relative golden age of absurdly good price-to-performance wrt steels and I wonder what if improvements are going to start slowing down?
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I wonder what if improvements are going to start slowing down?
Even s30v was a bit too chippy by some accounts, and some found magnacut didnt hold an edge as well as they would like and even fewer users benefitted from the huge edge stability. There's been a lot of great steels coming out but nothing to me has felt as "endgame" as magnamax. I think this will rule the roost for years on all under 5" edc pocket knives. It's as close to "perfect" as we've ever seen.
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>>64889292
>what if improvements are going to start slowing down?
Even s30v was a bit too chippy by some accounts, and some found magnacut didnt hold an edge as well as they would like and even fewer users benefitted from the huge edge stability. There's been a lot of great steels coming out but nothing to me has felt as "endgame" as magnamax. I think this will rule the roost for years on all under 5" edc pocket knives. It's as close to "perfect" as we've ever seen.
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Because the scale of what's practical for a small-scale custom knifemaker to do, and what's practical for a huge factory, is different. "Harder to work with" doesn't just mean it's more skill/effort either, it means that some manufacturing processes simply aren't feasible (or even possible at all in some cases) so by using those supersteels you're actually limiting what the maker can do in terms of design or how nice they can make it look. CPM 154 and RWL34 are good compromise steels that perform well while still making that nice custom look and finish practical.
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>>64889574
Fuck I really wanna get some and make another little one like this in it
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I recently sharpened up my completely dull and abused Gerber LST on the sharpmaker starting with diamond stones. Extra work was required sharpening at 20 degrees near the tip because the factory grind became more obtuse near the tip. But I liked the way it came out, it's close to a mirror polish. So I decided to give the same treatment to my M4 Military because I liked the polished edge look. (It had been sharp, just not cleaned-up looking.) It can now whittle hair if I get the right hair.
Later, I ran my hand through my hair and a hair came out and I got curious about my new Endura in my pocket because I know that sucker is sharp because I sliced a tiny chunk of my finger off with it last week.
I pulled it out and it whittled / chopped off a free hanging hair multiple times on just the factory edge.
One thing about hair whittling is you get better at it like anything the more you do it.
I heard Sal Glesser can cut paper with another sheet of paper.
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>>64889690
it's awesome
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/D6BQvqrSDAw
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>>64862956
CRK knives are brittle garbage made of junk steel. If you trust your life in one, you might as well kys.
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>>64890228
People used literal glass and stone knives for thousands of years, and their lives actually depended on their tools. If they failed they fucking died.
You on the other hand will not starve to death if you miss your next thirty meals, and the worst consequence of your knife breaking would be you'd have to find a new way to entertain yourself, rather than hammering knives into wood and pretending that's survival. At least, for a single day until your new knife gets delivered by amazon tomorrow.
Basically you're a faggot and a retard.
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>>64890270
>deploy the MagmaMeme™ uber alloy before the boomer clientele rot on the vine.
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this was true.
crk was one of the funders of s30v. for some reason they ignored crucible on heat treats. they gave a reason that i've forgotten, maybe it was that harder s30v was more brittle or harder to sharpen. either way it was pure cope, and their s30v heat treats were shit and the knives didn't keep good edges. i think i remember people fucking with the edge angles to try and fix it but in general it was cutting geometry winning out over mediocre steel. crk then kept using s30v long past its expiration date as far as high end knives are concerned.
they figured their shit out with s35vn. i felt pretty endgame about s35 and s45, as far as small folders go. they held edges well, sharpened easier than s30v, and didn't rust. never felt like it needed to be optimized more.
i respect crk for skipping the m390/20cv hype. it is great steel but is not corrosion resistant enough imo. spyderco had some really nice coated 20cv, which sort of solved the problem. to this day crk knives are every corrosion resistant in every aspect and it is nice to know an expensive piece isnt rotting away due to humid air.
i now have two memenacut crk's. ive also owned quite a few knives from various brands in magnacut. i truly havent noticed much variance between different brands magnacut treatment. all of it runs great, sharpens relatively simply, and doesnt rust. abw, spyderco, hogue, crk, all the memenacut has been good.
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Yeah I'm going to bite the bullet and do a saltwater corrosion test on my new guardian tactical apex. I really can't stop wondering if it's from 2nd heat crucible or the 1st heat or even the erasteel pre-production melt like Creely's Minnow.
I'll also do it on my combat troodon with m390 which should make for a great comparison since the 2nd heat performs about the same as m390 in corrosion resistance, so I'll know based on how they compare what kind of composition I have... probably.
It pains me to do this, but I just have to find out... Stay tuned.
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>>64890521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwU8YJ8c8w
You could just carry them in the summer and see if sweat naturally rusts them. However, your sacrifice will serve to mildly increase the useless knowledge of about 5 Anons, so it's a tade-off.
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>>64890556
i want it to be a controlled experiment otherwise it won't tell me much
im going to be following this methodology
https://knifesteelnerds.com/2019/10/14/corrosion-resistance-testing/
>your sacrifice will serve to mildly increase the useless knowledge of about 5 Anons, so it's a tade-of
i think it's kind of a big deal and good for people to know. 0.2% carbon is a lot, it basically is an entirely different steel.
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>>64890561
>Molybdenum and nitrogen are known to help with “pitting resistance” and can support the chromium oxide layer.
That's interesting, considering that M4 pits like no other.
Very well. Your contribution in the name of science will be appreciated.
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>>64890581
i have a pretty good idea of what to expect from the test, if it's the proper formula.
I'm just gonna have to buy a kitchen scale to measure out the salt for the water first so that'll take a few days probably.
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>>64890561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6BQvqrSDAw
MagnaMax is some kind of weird alien metal.
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>>64890349
It's also worth mentioning that they increased the hardness of their S35VN in the mid-'10s as well. I think it was done by CR's wife when she took over the company. My 2017 Small Seb 21 has been my most-carried knife as long as I've owned it and it's performed as you'd expect from S35VN from any other maker.
As for M390, personally I really like it. I have a Lionsteel TRE with it and I've found it to be a very good performer.
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>>64891192
Honestly I'm not sure how much that situation really happened. People really underestimate how much trade and commerce happened historically, and good sharpening stones were always a major commodity, frequently being found by archaeologists hundreds or even thousands of miles from their natural origins. People who really used knives a lot (butchers, hunters, etc.) would have had them and been skilled at sharpening, and those who didn't would usually live close enough to some kind of town that'd either have somebody who offered sharpening services (a blacksmith or whatever) or would get periodic visits from traveling sharpeners.
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>>64892191
nta but i think it is impressive because it can do that while still having extremely high abrasion resistance and corrosion resistance. anything previously that hit those two marks is brittle as all hell.
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>>64862956
Anyone know of any folders that fit these basic parameters?
>glass breaker
>tanto blade
>long enough to be a fighting knife/can kill someone
I have this POS now but I'm done buying their knives, they always fall apart or randomly loosen to the point screws fall out.
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>>64892265
They're a budget brand, you shouldn't be surprised they aren't the best.
I know the Socom Manual fits that criteria. The Ultratechs too if you can have an OTF. Boker Black Spear is a budget option, some of the Smith n Wesson knives too.
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>>64892265
get blue loctite for that one while you're at it
I have an M16-03z as an all purpose utility knife, and I've never given it a serious sharpening since 2016. The hollow grind and low factory edge angle on the AUS-8 has been good enough for home cardboard cutting and package opening all this time.
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1990's
>440c is the peak knife steel. there will be nothing better than this
2000's
>S30V is the peak knife steel there will be nothing better than this
2005
>20cv is the best EDC knife steel. there will be nothing better than this
2009
>S35VN is the peak knife steel, there will be nothing better than this
2019
>S45VN is the peak knife steel, there will be nothing better than this
2021
>MagnaCut is the peak knife steel, there will be nothing better than this
2025
>MagnaMax is the best EDC knife steel, there will be nothing better than this
Now that MagnaCut and MagnaMax have effectively made 70% of the knife steels obsolete, despite boomers thinking knives were never going to get better. will the boomers sell off their inferior steel high end knives for a discount to upgrade to the better option?
or will they demand you pay extra for obsolete steel?
or do you wait out until they die and their zoomer grandkids sell them for better knife steels? I might sell off my older model knives to upgrade to MagnaMax.
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>>64889567
are you kidding? i cant wait for the push for MagnaMax to be made into Chef's knives. its suppose to have a the same edge retention and toughness as K390 while still being stainless.
and the BIGGER point to be made, is that MagnaMax has FINALLY bridged the gap between stainless and high carbon steel benefits. so the general notion for a long time was to buy a high carbon Japanese chef knife because of the high edge retention and just accept the downside of no corrosion resistance VS no worries on corrosion but you will sharpen it regularly.
MagnaMax has made high carbon Japanese SHIT........ into shit. there is literally no point anymore to gawk at the high carbon Japanese steel. because the edge retention of MagnaMax should be higher on average than anything that is a high carbon steel. while still being stainless and tougher than Japanese stainless steel.
long gone are the days of weeaboo chef's pretending like their high end 1000 dollar gyuoto is superior to USA made steel. it finally happened. the stainless steel boys won. and you know what the best part of this is? they dont even realize it. they dont even know the change is and has already happened. MUWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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for example. ZDP-189 is commonly used for High Carbon Japanese Chef knives. MagnaMax is suppose to have the same attributes as K390, but stainless. He compared MagnaMax to S110V and M390 and it "appears" to be better than those steels, which he gave them a 9 on corrosion.
so we could be looking at a K390 steel with a 9/10 on corrosion resistance that ABSOLUTELY SMOKES Japanese high carbon steels.
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>>64892585
Considering that you've thought a lot about these things, what's your take on why they don't make swords out of stainless steel? What is it about stainless that makes it unfit for swords?
Is it because the last time swords were seriously made for war, stainless didn't even exist so they carry on in fuddlore tradition?
Is stainless actually more brittle like they say? This chart would beg to differ.
Or is it too soft?
Are the knife steel nerds tests specifically only in relation to knives and have no bearing on longer blades?
I saw a "tactical sword" with a two foot magnacut blade on youtube.
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>>64889567
Magnacut always had sub par edge retention. For some reason, people just pretended it didn't. And Spyderco uses it in the Salt series when there are steels with better corrosion resistance.
Magnacut is just a tough, well-rounded steel with better corrosion resistance than expected. It isn't even as tough as 420HC.
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>>64892726
>Is stainless actually more brittle like they say? This chart would beg to differ.
Buddy, you're comparing 420 to 1095. What the fuck are you doing?
Yes, most stainless steels are more brittle because of the chromium carbides. Things like AEB-L are a notable exception, because of their composition.
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>>64892533
>>MagnaCut is the peak knife steel, there will be nothing better than this
overhyped, didn't really raise the bar in any meaningful way for most users except the hardest abusers and ocean/coast carry fags. Edge retention was same or worse than previous supersteels.
>>S45VN/S35VN is the peak knife steel, there will be nothing better than this
incremental improvements
>>20cv is the best EDC knife steel. there will be nothing better than this
Chips too easily imo
>>S30V is the peak knife steel there will be nothing better than this
That was the start of the pm knife steel revolution tbf
>>440c is the peak knife steel. there will be nothing better than this
Kinda true desu can't argue with that
You really should mention Vanax/S90v, they did some amazing things for knife steel metallurgy. As far it goes, right now it's hard to imagine how they're going to top super stainless k390 unless it's just some pure nonsense like LC200N with Maxamet edge retention.
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>>64872825
>Knocked one of my mom's old kitchen knives off the counter
>Wanted to catch it but knew I shouldn't
>Watched it fall to the tile floor in slow motion and shatter into 3 pieces
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>>64882236
kek, wtf she is doing for living, her hands are aful
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>>64894500
I have noticed a correlation between how liked a steel is and how easy it is to heat treat. Everyone is burned out on m390 for example because it's treated too soft over 70% of the time but 14c28n is almost retardproof to heat treat.
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>>64862956
not a knife question, but how hard would you have to hit someone with sap in the head to kill them? if i'd hit someone as hard as i could in the side of the head, how likely is it that they would die? would most people underestimate the amount of damage it would do to them if pulled out in a fight?
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>>64895033
Part of why tip up is popular is that it PREVENTS that kind of thing, the back of the blade sits against the edge of your pocket where it can't open instead of facing into the pocket where it could pop out and cut the shit out of you when you reach in for something.
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>>64895454
You can swap the clip to the other side (if you have a good knife) if you want that. Carrying tip up is stupid, you still are only holding the handle by the edge if it when you draw, then have to walk your fingers up to a grip position. With tip down you can draw and ride it across your torso to get it into a good grip position. There's no way to draw with already having a grip on the handle, you always only grab the exposed edge at the top of the pocket. But with tip up you have to do some retarded shit to get a good grip on it, dumb. Major plus yo CRKT for just giving the buyer every option, even the retarded ones. But a knife that you can't switch the clip on in 2026, fuck that. I carry my knife lefty as a backup lethal in a gun grab situation. Yes I have been in one too.
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>>64895564
>Carrying tip up is stupid, you still are only holding the handle by the edge if it when you draw, then have to walk your fingers up to a grip position.
>There's no way to draw with already having a grip on the handle, you always only grab the exposed edge at the top of the pocket. But with tip up you have to do some retarded shit to get a good grip on it, dumb
lol wut
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>>64895593
Do you put your hand in the pocket, secure a good grip, then pull put your fisted hand? That's not even possible, your hand will be stuck in the pocket. I have no idea what you're talking about. I just messed with mine doing tip up draws, you can only grab the edge and pull it out of the pocket so you still have to adjust grip after drawing.
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>>64895867
So you're a fatty who wears loose ass cargo shorts, got it. I wear pretty loose well worn pants and am slim but still have to stop and do a dance to actually get my hands in them. I'd rather deploy ut by grabbing the edge, it's quicker. I think tip up carriers got memed, that's obviously a bad idea and unnecessary.
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the saline torture games begin
if magnamax loses it's 2nd crucible heat
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>>64896281
>w-w-well you're fat
Holy shit lmao.
Did you not even understand what I typed? I don't stick my whole fucking hand in the pocket, you retard.
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>>64894857
Because it's the ideal way to carry?
>>64894728
Harder than you think. You're not gonna get a movie "1 hit KO" on someone unless you're a regular gym-goer / practice some form of martial arts.
>>64895033
Only if you've got a chinese knife with shitty retain springs.
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im honestly not sure which one rusted worse, i am tempted to say the m390 did better though.
https://files.catbox.moe/9jfwmg.mp4
could have kept them in longer but eh. the difference in finishing texture may have skewed things a lot. there was more rust on the actual edge of the m390 but the finish on the flats of the magnamax were more splotchy than the flats of the m390, and the m390 has stains on the spine but the magnamax doesn't.
Who can say?
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>>64892265
That brand is my knaifu. You are a clumsy, gorilla ape if you're somehow abusing these things to the point the screw comes out. That's right, literally one screw, not multiple; gigantic and matted for easy adjustment on the fly. It's not that hard to check on it every now and then. Stop batoning with folding knives like a zoomer.
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>>64898181
Lost out on a grail sword at auction and in a rage I just spent 1250 on a Socom Elite + Nemesis IV. Not the worst deal.
Regardless, the Nemesis looks like it fires weakly. I've always heard the Dalton M-6 from the 90s fired harder than anything else. Any recommendations on making this a little stronger firing? I've never disassembled a double action OTF but I feel like a single action OTF would be easier since there aren't double springs to balance. Probably gonna have the blade DLC coated and maybe a bit of hollow grinding which should avoid any tolerance stacking. Want a glossy black w/ that silver edge around it.
Stay tuned. Tried to buy the one on Bladeforums but couldnt even DM the guy without a paid membership. If any other /k/ommandos want it, go nuts https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/microtech-select-nemesis-iv-stonew ash.2066832/
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>>64904619
That's wild that the sheath is just as long when the blade is so short. They seem like a step up from companions but not quite garbergs. I don't like the random boxiness they have, they look like when either Ford or Chevy, I forget which, made all their cars and trucks boxy for no reason some time in the late 2000s.
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>>64904435
Honestly wouldn't be able to tell you because I've never worked on any of the single actions. If you do open it up and take pictures I can possibly help guide you with what I know about OTFs, but that would be an educated guess rather than direct experience.
Fitz has a few videos of disassembling double action OTFs so you can get an idea as to how those function.
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>>64906873
It's a single coilspring (after posting I spent yesterday evening watching a few videos in the background while doing other stuff) so theoretically that should be easier to find than some of the earlier models that used leafsprings. He notes a moderate amount of bladeplay, wonder if some thin foam inserts or leaf springs inside could approximate a ZPB? DOnt wanna bubba this one very much but if a new spring was too powerful I wonder if thin dense foam at the inside of the mouth would help? Not much I can do polishing wise to improve it I dont think.
One thing I do want to try and do is source a replacement charging handle even from a clone. I have a dumb idea of making a leather pouch for it with a small hook or button at the bottom and I wanna mill a little bit of extra space between the charging handle tab or the like, and put something like a small leather loop there. The idea being you can depress the switch on the side, hook the loop around the hook or button, and use it to pull back on the charging handle 1-handed. Entirely pointless but I do like trying to think of practical use-cases or things people would do if they had to actually carry this knife.
My biggest gripe about the assembly is I wish the safety position was flipped, so back was safe and front was fire, that way you could have a tight fitting sheath that would automatically move it to safe when stored and put it ready to fire when withdrawing. But as a huge fan of the dragonslayer, and not a big fan of the nu-Halo IV (seriously it's just a less practical combat troodon gen 3 at that size), I'm excited to get it delivered on Monday and finally have one of the rarest models. Not too excited about the socom elite since it's neither the auto version nor ambi clip but I can either give it away to a potential future girlfriend or something or just keep it on the display until they discontinue it. The Socom elite ram look looks nice but nothing the amphibian doesnt already do.
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>>64907261
That's rather interesting. The only thing I can think to do to would be try to find a secondary spring, like adding an extra spring to your car's coilovers. Would take some adjustment and fine tuning. For the blade-play, you could add some sort of leafspring but good luck getting that to stay put without some sort of machinery.
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>>64907798
Just as a thinking exercise while I'm at work I have a few ideas. Picrel is an absolute ass drawing, but if the lever you push in in order to retract the charging handle either directly pressed against a vertical leaf spring, or against a transfer bar pressing against a horizontal leaf spring near the mouth, then as you pressed the lever to unlock the knife, it would also depress on the leaf spring and allow the blade to move. For the first option, I think that is less viable because the transfer bar would have to go over the leaf spring unless you riveted it together, which would put it against the tang of the blade and cause wear or friction issues (I'm assuming in this hypothetical that the grind of the blade and the shape of the leaf spring would be such that it would slide freely until the tang pushes down onto the leaf spring which helps secure it.
Either option is only on one side so there is a chance you would cause the knife to slowly tilt over time unless the design had a slightly asymmetric tang to overcompensate for that but I just like brainstorming overly complex and impractical ways of doing stuff. The rightmost option would be easier since the detent lever could have a thin piece of steel riveted to it with the flat spring attached to that and still largely keep the same real estate on the knife barring the leaf spring towards the top. God I wish I had basic bitch machining skills because I want to always tinker and improve stuff even past decreasing performances.
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They used to make Samurai katanas in Seki City, Japan, but not many were wanted or needed some time around the end of WWII due to firearms becoming the prominent sidearm worldwide. So, Seki City pivoted from making katanas into making kitchen knives.
The Endura features VG-10 steel, a popular kitchen knife steel.
So, basically, the Endura I carry in my pocket is a real Samurai katana made by real Japanese sword makers in the most prominent sword making city in Japan.
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>>64911852
Fucking weird. My order arrived and...it is the wrong order? I got a LUDT and a half serrated Nemesis IV in bronze instead. I already emailed the seller & found a listing (already OOS when I got mine) for the set I did receive but not sure what to do so I reboxed the knives in the shipping box to protect them. I did get to play around with the Nemesis for a bit, it does fire weaker than I'd have expected. Blade is venomtech-lite/Heretic Cleric II so you dont need a huge spring but there was a significant travel time in deployment and not that satisfying *click* as it opens immediately. OTOH, it is really easy to retract the charging handle. Just a fucking weird situation and waiting to see what's up.
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>>64912102
> it's just an AR
> it's just an AK
> it's just another bolt-action rifle!
See how stupid you sound?
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That's very odd.
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>>64862956
mfw as an eurocück I have to resort to buying a gladius for home defense, considering all the animals roaming free over here these days. seems like the most sensible option for a tight apartment situation. no, a bat won't do it, it's like going with a .22 against a bear, also no room to swing it.
>hear a rumble in the hallway at night
>up in 3 seconds, grab the gladius and a riot shield from the wall above my bed
>go shield raised, butt naked into the night like my forefathers
>see two enormous, hairy, chocolate skinned animals
>catch the flashlight beam and present my penis and testicles through the transparent polycarbonate to assert dominance
>the animal tries to punch and kick me
>can't gang up on me, too tight for that, form a line, fuckers
>lean into my shield, start peeking, poking, and slashing
>bathe in the blood of the invaders
>wife screams and faints
>no one gets through me in this tight corridor tonight
>try to explain this picture later to cops
>the 100" TV is still standing
it's hard enough to get a gun here, but it seems it's harder to find a quality gladius
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>>64913444
There doesn't seem to be any quality brand name for swords. There's no Spyderco or Benchmade or Buck of swords you can just get and be happy and know you can rely on it.
I'll watch a sword review and the handle is falling apart and the reviewer acts like it's normal for that price.
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>>64913473
Look for the HEMA guys on tiktok / YT shorts, they usually have good recommendations.
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>>64913473
Swordautist here, what are you looking for? A brief list would be: (going low to high of what I recommend)
-TodCutler seems to be in a really good spot price to performance
-Windlass/Royal Armouries & LK Chen are a bit more expensive, a bit fancier, but I've heard good things all around
-Hanwei Tinker bastard is the Toyota Hilux of HEMA cutters
-Valiant Armoury used to be the king of mid tier price to performance swords. They make in-house in the US now and the swords are pricier but you can still get good deals
-Arms and Armor are in a good middle-to-low-end-of-high-end spot, my biggest gripe is nothing is thicker than 6mm
-Albion, obviously. Models and wait times are the bottleneck there
-Actual custom/semi custom guys like Castle Keep/Rob Miller. Really good crisp clean shit
-Angus Trim--not as expensive as Rob Miller but hes borderline if not actually retired for reals now so 2nd hand is your only option
-Owen Bush/Tod Workshop/etc is the full custom nothing under 2k usd minimum level and at this point, its worth the time to shop around like a tattoo artist and find the person who can make you EXACTLY what you want.
>If you have a specific time period/typology/budget/etc you are looking for lemme know and I can help direct you to the right places
**Cold steel is like KelTec, some of their swords are better than youd think, Italian Longsword back in the day was my first 'real' sword. Autistic issues like a thrusting blade having a cutting blade's weight distribution aside. But a lot of the models are massively overbuilt or massively crap.
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>>64913770
Neat, I'll look into these things. If I were to get a sword, I'd probably get a katana.
I don't have the money right now.
I do extensive research before I buy knives. It just seems like a lot less info is available on swords and half the time in the reviews pieces are falling off them.
I don't care about the slave labor of folding it a million times and forging it from raw chunks of iron if making it from a slab of steel will have the same result.
Also, are katanas really just attached to the handle with a little dowel rod through the tang? That doesn't seem durable.
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>>64913473
>I'll watch a sword review and the handle is falling apart
sounds like a high quality sword if the only problem is a loose handle desu
I'd buy it and just make a real handle, wouldn't take more than an afternoon
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>>64913770
echoing mostly. I've bought a sword and a dagger from todd and a sword from lk chen. i've also watched a ton of reviews and random sword and knife content because my job has me twiddling my thumbs any time i'm not pulling my hair out.
>tod cutler good
i can't speak on the tod's workshop stuff, but the tod cutler stuff (partially or fully manufactured somewhere overseas) has really iffy quality control. i'm indifferent given the price, but the sword i bought has weird buff marks on a few spots on the blade (think someone slipped with a buffing wheel, weird rash-looking marks) and the sharpened bevel is very obviously not even. it's still nice, and i can't complain for the price considering it comes with a decent scabbard.
>windlass/royal
a lot of royal (all?) doesn't come sharpened and many retailers will not sharpen them. heard windlass quality varies a ton from product to product and individual piece to piece.
>lk chen
undeniably better than windlass, great value, better qc than windless, limited euro stuff. kult of athena's baldur arms line is mostly or entirely made by them now. if i buy another sword it'll be their british cav sword, 1860 us cav sword, or rapier.
>hanwei
yeah, heard the same. one person i know has a sword from the tinker line and got exactly what they expected.
>albion, arms & armour, a trim, etc
albion better qc than arms & armour. from my understanding, albion relies more on cnc and fixtures while arms & armour does actual forging and dudes doing manual work to build the pieces.
hope this is helpful or something. owning a sword is cool. i am not autistic and not broke.
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>>64913883
Yeah sorry I meant the Windlass Royal Armouries thing they and Matt Easton are doing, seems like he's doing a bit more overwatch on them and keeping those at a higher quality since his name and the RA's name is on the line.
Darksword Armoury is overbuilt and overpriced but if you can find someone selling one for cheap and know someone with a belt sander, you can grind it down into a real motherfucker of a sword. Just ignore everything else about them lmao.
>Picrel is my Albion Alpha-Omega I got from a Leafistani during the lockdowns for less than the msrp of a Munich new. It is a Munich blade, half-wire grip, but hollow ground so much it actually can cut a tatami like butter. Absurdly light as well. Probably the best non-antique I have handling wise
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>>64913917
Oh fuck that's cool. I can just own a real sword lmao. Why the fuck doesn't everyone? I'm going to get a sword. And a practice sword so I won't end up killing myself with the real deal. Who wouldn't want a sword?? I've always felt such disconnect toward swords, like they're not real, or rather are some fantasy things you only see in the movies.
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>>64913894
The fuck does moving parts have to do with bitching about a knife thread? Not to mention there are super simplistic guns, and there are some pretty complicated knives. The moving parts do not have a significant correlation to the merits of a thread.
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cuz gun.
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>>64913971
>I've always felt such disconnect toward swords, like they're not real, or rather are some fantasy things you only see in the movies.
They're not taken seriously by the makers who are making wallhangers for cosplayers instead of weapons. Even the current NATO official Fairbairn-Sykes dagger which replaced the sword in a lot of ways comes with dull edges and a dull tip when Fairbairn himself said to have razor sharp edges.
I prefer the ancient standard for a katana, to be able to be placed in a stream and slice through a free-floating lotus flower.
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>>64893034
>and ocean/coast carry fags.
Do people not clean their knife after using it or something? I always felt like this as a feature for a knife is just ridiculous marketing nonsense. If I'm going to be using a knife that's going to be subjected to being constantly in saltwater I'm just going to use a cheap knife like a mora or a commercial deck knife anyway.
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>>64914067
For me, the real problem is sweat in the summer. You know how salt stains appear on hats and t-shirts in the summer? A pocket knife gets the same treatment. The sweat evaporates, but the salt stays and gets more of a humid saltwater sweat mixture added to it as the day goes on. I'll never have a non-stainless pocket knife again. Even stainless can rust a little in a sweaty pocket that doesn't really feel all that sweaty. In a belt sheath is fine for carbon steels.
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It's a "yes and no" sort of answer. I think I was the one who started the discussion on steels or part of it and largely we have unprecedented quality steel. It is literally splitting hairs at this point barring certain people not doing the best heat treat. There is very very little if anything that a MagnusCut 1000S steel can do that I dunno take the stainless and carbon of your choice, say 1080 and S30 cannot do at the same sharpness. In under 200 years we have gone from trying to get the ability to make basic steel at a consistent industrial level to details so tiny that it has become more of an artform.
But on the other hand, tools that last longer or are more durable or need less cleaning are also benefits unto themselves. Like guns, you should be cleaning out the barrel when needed, but that doesn't mean black powder is just as good as smokeless. It means you can go a lot longer without cleaning. If wanting a more corrosion resistant blade matters to you and cuts back on cleaning, go for it. There's no 1 right answer, between cost, durability, and performance you have to find the one that works for you.
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>>64914110
With guns it's a pretty major leap in technology and complexity though. A sharp piece of carbon steel is pretty simple to keep from corroding even if you're a coastal subsistence forager or whatever. Corrosion resistance would be maybe the least important factor in a steel for me since you can negate the necessity with a rag and if you're feeling fancy a couple drops of mineral oil. I mean look at how reliable a $15 tramontina 1070 steel machete is
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>>64914110
>There is very very little if anything that a MagnusCut 1000S steel can do that....
worthy of note that magnacut wasn't intended to be spectacular at any specific attribute but is legitimately a high water mark as jack-of-all-trades. if sheer rust resistance is the goal, there are basically rust proof steels, like h1, its just that they don't do great for edge retention.
in the brittle vs. edge retention vs. rust proof maximization problem, magnacut was just the new king. i havent readup on or tried magnamax yet but it sounds like people think its next.
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Swordbros, recommend me a hand and a half sword. Prefer Germanic style. I’ll never invest time into hema, so I think a chopping rather than a fencing style would be more practical, but I don’t want a club of a sword either. I’m ok with Albion prices.
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Every time I hold a piece of 6061 handle or scale once it's been separated from everything else it always blows my mind how light it is. Can't even feel the weight im my hand. How can something a light as air be so strong and tough
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>>64917703
Can you be more specific here? Do you want a 1.5h "war sword" or something you could theoretically carry around without much issue? Lot of range to cover. I'm partial to the A&A German Branch sword because the IX.949 is the prettiest sword on God's Green Earth but it is admittedly more of a thruster.
You said Albion was OK. I'm not a huge fan of XII/XIII as they are too much cut over thrust, the XVIIIs maybe go a bit the other way, but take a look at the Albion Regent/Earl. Picrel is an Earl and I really want one. Basically a Munich with a beefier blade but hollow ground so it will be good at cuts.
If you REALLY wanna spec into cuts, look up some of the complex hilt longswords and swiss sabres. The flattened hexagonal longsword blade a la Habsburg era Europe is a pretty effective cutter.
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Here is my hunting knife
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Yes something you could carry. I’m a big guy (4u) so a 1.5 sword isn’t insane. I only mention cutting preference because I will never practice with it, so I think a fencing focused sword would be wasted. Maybe more of a balanced design? I want a nice wall hanger that would be able to throw down if need be. Honestly it’s been a bit since I looked at Albion, but I remember Tallhoffer, Earl, and Munich looking cool. I have no clue how practical they would be for me.