>>64876900
Backup guns when backup guns were a thing
They're a novelty now

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I’m writing a /k/ related post apocalyptic story. (I’m way too embarrassed to ever share it so don’t ask)
In your opinion, what would’ve been a good year for the world to end? (So I can dial in the gear, tech, lingo and trends etc of that era)
I have a few dates picked out.
2013, 2019, or 2023?

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>>64876900
>Uberti Cattleman II in 44 mag (to compliment my other Uberti Cattleman II in 44/40 and 44 spl
>RIA M1911 GI
>Uberti Colt Walker
Which one for concealed carry (under a poncho)?

>>64876900
I have one of these loaded with .410 I keep on my vest in case I see a snake. The spread is so wide it has to be 8-12 inches at 4 feet.

>>64876900
>>64876892
>What are the real uses of derringer-type guns?
None really. I bought one of those American Derringer model DA38 ones in .40S&W. It had that trigger pull from your nightmares where you're dragging it back with all your might and it just won't fucking fire. This wasn't because I wasn't pulling it hard enough, it's because quite often it just wouldn't fucking fire no matter how much "pressure" (more like tons of weight) you put on the trigger.

It ALSO would fail to set off the primer about a third of the time, just leaving a deep dent in it. My guess is that the internal hammer was so slow that while it could force a big dimple into the primer, it couldn't actually whack it hard enough to detonate it.

Oh, and just for funsies, when it did actually fire, it was so fucking painful that it made me develop an insanely bad flinch.

Honestly shitty guns.

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What's the best way to release a newly developed 3D-printed gun so that it gains some attention and maybe a following?

It's nothing extra special or unique, just has some nice features (IMHO at least) that I have never seen on any other 3DPG in its general category. It also has a very low non-printed parts count for what it does (AR15 FCG plus three more gun parts plus two screws, and I'm working on eliminating the three currently-non-printed gun parts).

Do I just post it on Odysee and 3D2A and here?
Should I join up with one of the big collaborative groups like BLC or AWCY?
Do I need to pay guntube influencers for reviews?

>>64877329
*four gun parts, I forgot about the barrel

>>64876900
Today? They're mostly fun toys. Back in the day they were an effective self-defense weapon, being much more reliable than other pocket options like a vest-pocket automatic, pepperbox, or tap-action pistol.

>>64877329
>so that it gains some attention and maybe a following?
>it's nothing extra special or unique
Pick one. If you want attention then your design needs to be different somehow. If your design isn't exceptional in some way then yeah, you're going to have to pay.

>>64877392
I irony is that unless that's some wierdo handoad it would actually be weaker than a .44. The thing with .45-70 is that all the factory loads are full of slow rifle powder. They make terrible power with a barrel that short. A 9mm would unironically be more powerful since it would have a couple inches of barrel length.

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>>64877392
Boomers did that joke better

Which loctite for guns and scope mounts? blue or red?

>>64877694
Blue. You want to be able to take it off in the future. They don’t last forever.

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>>64877694
Formally correct is purple, which is specially made for small fasteners. That said purple is difficult to find so few people use it. Blue is the better choice than red, that's certain.

Though, as a tip: heat softens loctite, so if you have a small loctited screw that's stuck and you're worried about the head stripping before you can get it out, heat it up. A soldering iron works great. Get it hot and the loctite comes right off. Also keep in mind that loctite doesn't work on oily parts. Clean your screws before applying the loctite otherwise it may not work.

>>64877282
this guy gets it
it's a second gun loaded with birdshot for rattlesnakes

I could see a rancher maybe using a .22 or 9mm Derringer to put down livestock

>>64877694
Blue for 242 for stuff you plan to take off or adjust later. Red for stuff you don't. Too much red on some stuff can wind up surprisingly permanent, like I get it's in the name but I wasn't expecting the aluminum to give first.

>>64877732
They're suitable for that, but the various .410 revolvers are even better. In fact, snake gun is one of the few things that those are good for.

>>64877778
The stronger grades of loctite are no joke. The bearing retaining types are strong enough to glue barrel liners in rifles.

>>64877793
>.410 revolvers are even better.
no, those are fucking huge and you don't need five shots to kill a snake. The derringers are much better for this. just compare the weight and footprint of the two guns. I will forever maintain that guns like the judge are completely useless novelty pieces.

>>64877166
the world ended June 19th 1999 precisely at 1900 Zulu when President Gore gave the order to execute SIOP-99 in reply to an allegedly rogue Russian submarine having struck Aviano with a nuclear weapon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Pristina_Airport

>>64878047
>ompletely useless novelty pieces.
As are all "snake guns". The revolvers are simply more fun.

>>64878110
>NATO Supreme Allied Commander Europe Wesley Clark ordered British brigades under NATO's Kosovo Force commander Mike Jackson to move vehicles to block the runway, and attack Russian forces.
What the fuck? Is he retarded?

>>64878133
not at all
the plan was to start ww3 in Kosovo
remember, just say no to war, kids

>>64878133
>Is he retarded?
>US Army officer who served in 'Nam
>runs his own consulting firm
>ceo of an investment bank
Oh, he's full retard

The Ice Man carried a pair of deringers in .22 mag

>>64878178
Kuklinsky? Dude was full of shit.

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>>64876900
I work retail. Even though it's technically a fireable offense to concealed carry.
I kinda want to get a clipped ankle holstered derringer in case the store I work at ever gets shot up. Small enough to have almost no printing or discomfort, but still something I can hide around a corner with or tag an attacker with from up close or far away with before running.
Appendix carrying a standard concealable pistol seems annoying and uncomfortable with how much moving I have to do on a daily basis.
Either a basic derringer or on a more goofier note some kind of housekey shotgun with a single shot. akin to a fucking eoka from rust lmao.

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>>64876900

>>64878266
I have one of these and it's a fun novelty. the rounds fly surprisingly straight despite the short barrel.

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When zeroing an AR's iron sights, does turning a knob left/right or up/down mean it move the sight in that direction or the point of impact? It's an M4 style detachable carry handle if that changes anything
I'm fucking retarded and can't find a clear answer online, wasted all my ammo last time I tried since I kept second and third guessing, then getting frustrated

>>64878643
Turn knob right to shift impact left. Turn left yo go right.
All hight is done with the front sight. Stop fucking with the knob on the rear.

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>>64878265
is there really a difference? seems a compact pistol is the all around better choice. probably lighter and thinner too

>>64876934
>Backup guns when backup guns were a thing
>They're a novelty now
>>64877668
>Today? They're mostly fun toys.

OP here. So novelty and snake guns. Got it. Thx for the answers everyone.

>>64878909
OP here again. Nice site, didn't know it. That's exactly why I was asking

>>64878909
Thank you George Kelgren!

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>>64878265
"Children are pure, they know who's the strongest."

>>64877329
I've found that the groups aren't that interested unless you're an established dev, and suspect most of the buzz about new designs is self generated. I'd post about it here, 3d2a, twitter/x, blc and fosscad matrix chats as everyone has migrated there from discord recently, and add tons of tags on odysee "guncad" specificly to hit the index. I'll make one and post pics if the parts aren't too expensive.

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>>64878265
>I kinda want to get a clipped ankle holstered derringer in case the store I work at ever gets shot up. Small enough to have almost no printing or discomfort, but still something I can hide around a corner with or tag an attacker with from up close or far away with before running.

22WMR North American Arms Holster Grip

I have a stupid question Armscor won't answer. The PAK-OUT Long and Short are individually denied in Commiefornia, but what if I take the 18½ inch PAK-OUT Long barrel and mount the PAK-OUT Short trigger & grip to it, making it essentially a foldable Mossberg Shockwave?

Would that be feasible (the aft folding section seems similar)?

>>64879582
They would still call it a modified long and send you to jail.

>>64879622
Meets all their shit measurements. When folded / buckbroken, the gun cannot operate or fire.

Sounds like a neat test case to me.

>>64876900
>What are the real uses of derringer-type guns?
Bullets on-demand, no matter your situation, from a throwaway pocket gun that can't be turned against you.
Might be most useful for an unseeming criminal character.

>>64879634

Hmmmm. You could get one of the SOTs down in SoCal to build you one as an AOW. That's how fucking 14" Shockwaves and shit like that end up getting sold legally in CA.

>>64879582
>PAK-OUT Long and Short are individually denied in Commiefornia
The short version would be banned, but the Long version seems perfectly legal in California out of the box. SBS laws are

>less than 26" OAL
>less than 18" barrel

The Long version has 18.5" barrel and is 26" overall, so it should be good.

>>64879971
>14" Shockwaves
A true American treasure.

>>64877166
World ended in 1914. The World Wars were the Apocalypse. Battle of Armageddon at Megiddo happened in 1918. We are living in Hell.

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>>64877250
I drew on a tweaker at a gas station once with a Navy Colt cartridge conversion
Don't wear a poncho in town, any longish coat will fo you fine. I was wearing a flecktarn parka.
Of the three guns listed, the Cattleman for rule of cool or the 1911 for actual practicality. The Walker is too shitty to be an acceptable carry gun; you can get away with carrying most novelty guns, but a giant cap and ball is just reckless

>>64876900
>real uses
Absolute smallest gun you can take basically anywhere. Not worth the price they tend to go for tho

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>>64877677
Colin Stolzer did it best by actually making one. 2 gauge, rifled barrel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYlDgwo52tI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq1tV3MBnx0

>>64881109
He cheated though, that thing has a tiny little powder chamber in it. Now I get WHY he did that, as it would seriously fuck you up with anything resembling a full bore charge, but if you're gonna make a meme gun you gotta go full-bore. He also forgot the tang sight.

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which one of you fucks was this

Now that Russia has whittled down The Ukraine's forces with its disposable chaff, do you think they'll commit their real army this year or will they wait?

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Anyone know what this thing is? Found it in my dad's shed. Think it's a gun thing since my brother kept a bunch of crap out there and it looks like it's made out of the same kind of metal as Chinese AK/SKS accessories. Hollow, male threaded on one end.

>>64881052
>"Don't wear a poncho in town"
But it looks so good with a sombrero though!

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>>64881849

I want clear mags, should I get Lancers or Tmags?

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>>64881906
Personally I would tolerate homeless people sleeping on the sidewalk more if they were dressed like this

>>64879974
>Long version

An FFL in NorCal said the folding stock was an issue since the gun fires with the stock folded up.

I think I'll have to just be satisfied with a 990 for now.

>>64879971
>14 inch barrel Shockwaves

Nice. But I got the 18 inch barrel version with the minishell/regular shell mod from Defender Tactical already. Great combo.

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Forgotten Weapons talked about how the XM177's moderator was there mostly because the shooters thought the blast out of a short barrel was too much.
Yet since then we've had even shorter barrels with no moderator and not problem?
So what changed? Did people just get used to it or what?

>>64882237
>An FFL in NorCal said the folding stock was an issue since the gun fires with the stock folded up
Sounds like fudds to me. There's nothing in the law that says that's an issue. Try a different FFL.

>>64882283
We issue earplugs now.

This is truly a stupid question but how do I drop the hammer on a surplus full auto AUG trigger pack? There's a thingy in front of the hammer that I assume is a trip for once it's in battery (not present on the semi-auto trigger pack) that keeps it from moving but I can't get that thingy to move and release the hammer no matter how hard or what direction I push on it.
I want the trigger springs because apparently they're like the Steyr "red springs" except these ones are free-to-me instead of $68+shipping.

>>64877166
2023 is too easy. You'd just have COVID be as bad as the mainstream media said it was, with a death:case ratio of 1:9 (when "case" meant "someone in the hospital because of it), but with the new definition of "case", meaning anyone who tests positive on the PCR tests has a 1 in 9 chance of dying, and assuming that anyone who has been around someone who tested positive will inevitably test positive and thus have a 1 in 9 chance of dying later.
And most people still act like it was about that bad, so unless you really beat them over the head with "this is how bad it would be if it was as bad as you've been told" you wouldn't be doing sensible disease control any favors.
You wouldn't even have to mention the riots. But if those still happened, they'd just go from...what they were, to a consensus that this was the last chance of all time to get anything that was still in a store.

>>64877758
Pointless when the Heritage Rough Rider with .22Mag cylinder exists for ~$120.

>>64882299
Have you pulled the trigger?

>>64880062
>>64882237

They're also like five fucking figures because legal tax stamp in CA and SOTs will charge for that privilege. Apologists will crow about this because
>you can still get NFA weapons in CA!
But it costs more than a used car and takes more friends in LE than a whole police convention for a 12 gauge with a barrel 4 inches shorter than minimum.

>>64879474
>I'll make one and post pics if the parts aren't too expensive.
Thanks! Pretty cheap, just an AR FCG and some other stuff that most people have laying around. Plus either two or four M5 screws (could substitute other sizes if desired) depending on if rifle or pistol (need two more to hold the stock on).

>>64881869
Barbed coring bayonet, banned by the Geneva Convention. Ram that into someone and twist, and it takes out a giant plug of flesh, then rips it out.

>>64882472
Covid shit is poison. Nobody wants to read that shit because they lived it, and the government doesn't want that shit written down on paper because they changed the narrative so many times

>>64881946
I recommend lancer because they have a metal insert around the feed lips.
If you store a loaded PMAG long term you are supposed to use one of the plastic caps that depresses the top 2 rounds so that it takes tension off the feed lips and doesn't crack/bow them out. Not a problem if they are metal.

That said, if the question is purely aesthetic it is going to depend more on preference and what rifle you are using it with.
>>64881755
I might actually know the guy. Can you link to the article?
>>64882237
What FFL? They sound misinformed.
You can't have a folding stock on a semi-auto shotgun in CA, but on a pump it is fine so long as it meets barrel/OAL length minimums.
CA measures OAL in firing configuration, but by that metric the PAK-OUT Long isn't any shorter than say a Maverick 88 with a folding stock. Those are sold all the time.

>>64884334
>Can you link to the article?
the site won't let me post the direct link because it thinks its spam, but I screenshotted that off Fox News. Google finds that article easily if you search the text in that image.
Let's see if the Reuters link works:
https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-jails-us-citizen-trying-leave-with-kalashnikov-stock-2026-02-17/

>>64884349
Might be about him, although the report is very late. If that is the case he did post on /k/, he was actually a very advanced AK collector/clone builder. I don't know if he actually tried smuggling a part out or if they planted it, but it is what it is now. I strongly recommended that he not go on the trip in the first place.

In any case assuming this news story is about my friend he's taking it as well as he can and his family is checking in with him. State Department is aware and if he's lucky he might get exchanged sooner than the 4 year sentence (actually 3 now, he was arrested a year ago). If not, the situation is sub-optimal of course but not as dire as one might think. The Russian prison system is infamous but foreigners are kept in special prisons with better conditions. I've made inquiries to see if I can help him any but only run into dead ends myself.

>>64882571
You can't remove the trigger pack unless the hammer is cocked so that's not a very useful idea.

I had the 5000lb trigger pull dream, what does it mean

>>64876900
Last resort/deep carry.

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>>64884744
Means you're gay

>>64884777
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>>64876900
I have one in .357 that i keep loaded with .38 hollowpoints.

I work in a hospital, and it fits in the pocket of my scrubs nicely. I highly doubt I'll ever need to use it, but if a patient shows up on PCP and tries to stab me, I'm covered. And if the zombie apocalypse has it's first major outbreak at my hospital, then I'm shooting my bitchiest coworker in the knee to buy myself some time to get out of the building while the undead hordes descend upon her.

>>64885065
its mega super illegal to carry a gun in a hospital, anon. are you sure you don't work in an urgent care?

>>64885065
You repeat this fact a lot.

>>64885079
for years now, actually.

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I bought cheap silencer sheaths and they work fine. What do expensive silencer sheaths do that cheap ones don't?

>>64886119
>mirage
>longevity
Pretty much it I reckon. I won't buy direct from china just so they can undercut the people that designed and paid for the production of the products they're ripping, though.

>>64886127
pretty compelling points ty for the straightforward answer.

>>64886127
I doubt there's much difference in mirage. More like:
>Longvevity?
>Fashion

>>64876900
Its a good ankle gun if someone is ontop of you beating you.

Most slide guns can be put out of battery of you press the barrel up against the target.

A solid frame gun like the deringer wont. Tho same isntrue with most revolvers

>>64886119
Is there any point in these? Won't they melt?

>>64886327
I got a cheap one and it doesn't melt but I only put about 90-120 through it each time I go out. Over about 20 minutes. The point is so that you don't risk burning your shit when you're handling your gun. Cans get hot.

Is a fourteen year age gap too much?

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>>64876900
Does any company make any left handed 308 bolt actions that have that milsurp rifle aesthetic. wooden upper handguards, integral magazines, ideally stripper clip fed. I havent been able to find anything. The closest ive come has been my ruger scout rifle which has been brought along for probably over 500 miles of hiking and hunting but Id like to try to find something else.

>picrel scout rifle on a camping trip a few years back

>>64877392
I miss Dino.

>>64886923
Not if you're older than 50

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>>64886333
I bought a silencerco one and it sucked. I mean I guess the material didn't melt or catch fire, but the plastic bits did. I cut it up and now use it as a handguard cover and for cable management

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New to guns, am I blind or is it difficult to see past 7 yards? Yes I see the target but I cannot tell where I'm hitting until I bring it close. It's expected to shoot much farther with a pistol accurately and I would not think it's a matter of firing in the general direction of the target hoping for the best.

>>64887426
Yes, it's hard to see tiny holes far away. Get a spotting scope

>>64887426
your blind maybe not legally but you should be able too see that

>>64887426
>I cannot tell where I'm hitting until I bring the target papet close.

Use a Birchwood Casey Shoot N' See target. Or make your own.

https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threads/diy-shoot-n-see-targets.263065/

>>64877314
They must have gone to shit at some point then. I have a DA-38 in .38 special that I bought in the early 90's. It's my usual pocket gun when I go outside at night (I live in the sticks) and I've used it a few times on animals. The trigger pull is long but not too bad and I have no trouble hitting anything with it out to 20 feet or so.

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Redpill me on the nu-Pythons. I know they're mechanically different from the originals, but are they reliable guns?

>>64882526
Why would I lug around a shitty .22 SAA when I could just throw a derringer in my pocket and call it good?

>watches some action movie about fighter planes
>all navy instead of air force
Why? Isn't the air force supposed to be more prestigious in, you know, being an air force?

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>>64876900
I’m gonna be moving to San Francisco (unfortunately) and living there for the next few years. I’m out of state, so I know carrying is out of the question unless I go through the massive PITA that is the application process for an out-of-state permit (introduced in 2025 shockingly enough).

I understand that I can bring whatever guns I want with me into the state as long as they’re CA-compliant. Really the only one I’m planning on bringing is my Model 29 just for the Dirty Harry feel because I’m gonna be too busy to ever really shoot anyway.

But on those times where I do have time to shoot, where on earth do I go? Any anons have any recs?

Anyone know if the new PSA AXR line's pistol chassis will also accept the RXM fire control group or if the AXR will only fit in the RXM's chassis.

I already have an RXM that I love and I haven't been a huge fan of PSA's dagger line but I do like the idea of having a Glock Gen 3 that takes 320 mags. I just don't wanna buy another fcg. Especially if I can just buy another RXM and stick the better fcg in the AXR chassis.

>>64888400
I'm a little south of SF, so I usually go to Reed's Indoor Range in Santa Clara. It's $25/hour per person and open 10AM-8PM almost every day, so it's good for a quick in-and-out shooting experience. It has the usual indoor range rules (no rapid fire, etc.) but the range officers are typically pretty cool so long as you're not purposefully screwing around. They rent guns too, but they make you use their ammo and will charge you for that, so the listed rental prices are kind of a scam.

The Sunnyvale Rod and Gun club and Los Altos Rod and Gun club are also both nice, they charge by the day so they're a lot cheaper if you want to shoot for more than an hour. Lot more options for shooting as well (longer ranges and trap range). But unless you get a membership they're only open during certain days.

>>64888360
The US military is geared for force projection in a way that most countries aren't. USAF tends to have jurisdiction over strategic bombing and defense of domestic airspace, whereas when we go and fuck someone up from the air that tends to start from the deck of an aircraft carrier. The constrictions involved with launching planes off a carrier and landing them back on the deck make both the aircraft and training rather specialized compared to USAF who have the luxury of landing on larger ground based runways that don't move or potentially sink. The sheer challenge of doing that does generally demand more of USN pilots and their aircraft.

Of course that doesn't mean that the USAF isn't forward deployed in different places or that they just sit on their thumbs. For instance all the A10 CAS missions flown in Afghanistan/Iraq were USAF.
>>64888400
Might as well apply for a permit. It's a pain, but it is better to have than not have.
>Mod 29
Is fine. You can self register any number of firearms within 60 days of arrival.
https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/ab991frm.pdf
What other firearms do you own? Sometimes it's possible to make a gun CA legal if it isn't originally. If you bring in off-roster handguns you can also sell them for a steep premium.
>Where to shoot.
There are several places depending where in the Bay you are. Reed's Indoor Range in Santa Clara, Sunnyvale Rod and Gun in Cupertino, Coyote Point is the closest up the SF Peninsula. Your best bet would be to either take a drive East to Dublin/Pleasanton or South to San Jose.

As far as gun stores the closest to SF would be City Arms in Pacifica (very scenic as well) but there are several around the region.

Also if you get an FFL 03 you can get a COE and mail order ammunition to your house. You can also buy C&R guns much easier without the 10 day wait. It pays for itself very quickly once you have both the C&R and COE.

>>64888400
Just do whatever you want

>>64887048
>big coolers
>cast iron cookware
>innawoods
more like innaparkinglot

>>64887985
Because putting down livestock is a deliberate action, you don't wander your property (all the while "lugging around" your humane killer of choice) looking for stock to kill.

>>64888475
>>64888542
Awesome, thanks anons.
>>64888564
“With this gun, you can kill anyone you want to.” He said aloud, to himself.

>>64888702
Me opting for something easier to carry does not imply I'm carrying it constantly, I have no idea what lead you to believe otherwise other than poor reading comprehension and lower than average IQ

>>64876900
I know pretty much nothing about ar-15s, but I got a bare/stripped upper in a trade. Is it possible to use this to make a 45 ACP build or do I need a specialized upper?

>>64889449
You'd have to get a .45 barrel and BCG

>resident of State A
>living in State B temporarily
>gun is in State A while I am in State B
>don't want to be unarmed for duration
Is it even feasible to send the pistol + ammo to myself by way of family member?
>why didn't you bring it with you originally
I was stupid and didn't think I'd remain in the area.

>>64889682
Yes, I think the USPS ban on shipping pistols was recently struck down so you don't even have to use UPS/Fedex if you don't want.

>>64889492
Ok awesome thank you

I have a roll of fireworks fuse, would it be illegal to attach it to something that looks like a huge firecracker, light the fuse and throw it in a crowd or a bus?

where do you get quickload as a download? I know the german autist responsible only sells on CD but I dont support this level of being a spastic

>>64890978
there's a torrent

>>64891050
any site you trust? checked 1337 and rarbg and crickets

>>64889911
>UPS/Fedex
The point is to get the weapon not having it being stolen en route.

>>64891055
Sorry, I don't. I'd have shared if I knew any. Ask in the reloading general thread, I remember an a anon mentioning within the last couple of weeks that he had just gotten a torrent copy.

What's that one camo that's like dark bluish grey and light bluish grey but with little bits of orange in it

>>64885102
these fucking virgins here have literally nothing going on in their lives except the internet and embarrassing hero fantasies

How do you walk in deep cakey mud? I was on a outing today and mud would stick to my shoes (they had deep treads), which would just pile up more mud. First time i ever encountered this. I would shake it off every few minutes but it would keep accumulating. Is there a technique?

>>64890904
yes, a hoax bomb like that would be a felony most places.

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Should I go for a normal m16a1 clone and try to slow down its RPM to like 600, or should I try building a 605 dissipator using a 16" m4 barrel so the carbine length gas system increases the RPM, and then get some things like a titanium bcg to increase the rpm even more to like 900+
genuinely not sure what the better (or more fun) option here is
Never owned an AR before since I'm an AK guy, but I'm pretty set on at least a Vietnam era rifle

>>64893019
also, if i have a milling machine how difficult would it be to cut the barrel down to 15 inches with a hacksaw, crown it, and rethread it
would of course register it

>>64893024
With a mill pretty hard. If you had a lathe it would be fine but a mill for a barrel would have to be extremly long. Why would rpm matter at all if its semi auto?

>>64893224
I forgot I don't really have that much Z travel, but I could still clamp it down on the side of the table, definitely doable, but it seems like you can just do crowning and tapping using hand tools anyways.
>Why would rpm matter at all if its semi auto?
Fully semi auto, as in a super safety

>>64893024
Using a mill for that job is idiotic. Use a piloted tool in a hand drill.

>>64893276
I'm more worried about the threading, since I've had bad experiences in the past with trying to tap firearm parts with hand tools

>>64893283
My bad, I didn't notice the threaded part at first, I just read "crown". You can crown satisfactorily with the right tool.
Suppressor threading is asking for trouble on a mill. Even if you had a big industrial CNC it would be a huge hassle to get your setup perfectly centered and aligned. AR barrels are cheap.

>>64893304
I don't think centering will be an issue, using a dial indicator and just the handwheels I could get it to sub-thousandth inch precision

>>64893311
You need to think about the angle, not just X-Y concentricity. I suppose you could insert a long gauge pin into the muzzle and then run an indicator up and down that? You can't use the OD of the barrel because the bore might not be perfectly aligned with it, and you need to get this perfect otherwise you will have baffle strikes.

>>64876900
What are some good gloves to use when working on or cleaning firearms? Seems like every glove I've tried is constantly getting snagged on shit while I'm working.

>>64896302
you don't need gloves for that you pansy

will a g3 mag work in any g3 copy and which g3 copy is the most worth while to get? the PTR?

>>64896302
Those black nitrile gloves that mechanics use are more than enough for most gun cleaning tasks. I like the Venom Steel rip-resistant ones, mainly because those are what I buy for other things. If you are refinishing a stock using aggressive stripper then you will want something more serious like long neoprene non-disposable ones.

What sorts of PCCs have specially made briefcases that can quick deploy that aren't unobtanium in current year
Off the top of my head I know B&T has one but I do not want to give money to the Sw*ss

>>64898503
Nobody.

>>64898220
yes and yes. retard.

whatever happened to the guy who bought like 20,000 single shot obscure russian pistols and imported them, having put his house on it or something crazy

>>64899619
Too soon for the fallout of that deal to have hit

>>64898503
Make your own

>>64876900
Can I get a QRD on .380 vs 9mm for CC?

>>64899619
It was all a bullshit larp with stock images

>>64899619
Those were from India. And they're less obscure and more just a bunch of useless starter pistols with the barrel drilled out to accept .22 short.

>>64876900
What grain boolit do you guys shoot for deer out of 30-06? I shoot 30-30 on public land in MN but got a vanguard in case I wanna set up for long dong range. I just grabbed some 165 PowerPoints at Walmart

>>64899619
He ended up marrying the dude who bought all the 9mm flobert during the coof because he thought it was 9x19.

>>64900199
>grain
Not so important, 160-180 is great for general use
>type of bullet construction
Very important. You want something with controlled expansion, not a varmint bullet or a minimally expanding big game bullet. Winchester Powerpoint is good for deer.

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Gah damn, I just whipped out a 30-30 to compare. You can pack a lot more gas in that bad boy

>>64900199
>in case I wanna set up for long dong range.
Should have bought a .300 WM if you were going to step up to a magnum length action. The only reason to buy .30-06 these days is if you're feeding a vintage gun. It has all the downsides of .300 WM, while being ballistically worse.

>>64900244
Dad died of cancer last year. He asked what gun I wanted out of the collection. Told him idk, something to compliment the 30-30. He gave my brother a single shot 12 gauge because the last time he gave him a gun he pawned it for drug money

>>64900263
That's the perfect situation for a .30-06. Enjoy your dad's gun anon.

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>>64876900
Great gift for a girlfriend, said Felix Pappalardi

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Anybody know a good red dot/optic for a 8.7 in barrel AR? Engaging targets within 200 yards so I don’t think a magnification is needed.

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Does anyone know what video this clip in Paul's intros is from? I've always wondered. One of his videos popped up in my recs yesterday so I'm on a little kick and my curiosity is renewed.

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i adjusted my carryhandle so I could turn it below 6/3 per RIBZ instructions, but when it goes below 6/3 the sight is angled. is this normal?

I got 500 dollars plus an unknown amount back from taxes. Basically an 800 dollar budget. What is the most fun option of these for me to buy and use a 3x prism(vortex) on and why?
223 bolt gun (howa,tikka,savage), rdb, psak in 556, or t91 ar(assuming the 16" restocks or they can send it prepinand welded)?
If im missing any good options tell me.

How come there are a trillion MP5 clones but no 416? I don't wanna pay the HK tax. I know the BRN-4 exists but I don't like Brownells, they've had some shitty business practices in the past

>>64901832
Brownells are unfortunately the only people to do copies affordably and actually have much of a stock to speak of. I say this as a ar180 appreciator who cannot find a cheaper gun with even the same or similar funtion period.

Bumping

I just learned that glock mag FG42 "reproductions" are a thing. Are they worth getting, and how annoyed should I be at my cuck state for banning it (lmao AWB, can't get anything cool anymore)?

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Thumb triggers.
Meme?
Niche use case?
Better than normal triggers and we just haven't swapped to them?
What's the truth of it? To me, it feels like they should be more common by now.

>>64900206
No wayyyyy someone did that
Got any pics?

>>64903633
I have locking thumbs from bad genetics. Would never do that.

>>64903633
>Niche use case?
That. Most of the time you don't want a thumb trigger because your thumb is also being used to grip. Now if you had two thumbs like a chameleon then it might make sense. Otherwise it's going to be limited to situations where you aren't relying on your thumb to grip.

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I don't want to mill my cz sp-01 slide for a red dot so I bought picrel to see if I can figure out how to mount one myself.
Turns you you need some kind of press tool to get the rear sight out and it's like 60 bucks. I don't need another one off tool, will I fuck up the rear sight if I go at it with a hammer and punch?

>>64904205
Possibly but you'll greatly lower the probability of that by using a nylon punch and a good vice. Also double check you're drifting it out the right way. CZ occasionally get creative.

>>64901832
'Cause it looks like yet another AR-15.
>>64901775
Probably either the bolt gun of the AK. Mostly because putting it on the RDB or AR will leave you feeling like you made a mistake when you start thinking about how it's going to work with night vision or thermals. Fixed power prisms aren't really that great with those.

>>64904995
>NV
It is for pinking.

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>>64877314
20 man Noir detective shoot out. That's my primary use case.

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>>64876900
a Revolver was posted here with 3 barrels in 3 calibers sorta like a lemat

it was a gun magazine article

Nevermind found it while waiting for captcha

>>64905801
horrendously impractical

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>>64901775
This if the waiting list isn't too long

>>64900263
what happened to the rest of them tho

>>64900228
Yes they're in a different class, quite a powerful round don

>>64905939
*don't listen to the haters

>>64905937
Auctioned off in an estate sale. Didn’t want the kids fighting over stuff so you just had to buy it if you wanted it

>>64905935
What is this?

i rape my earballs and eyes and ears, the fuck. what do i get out of it

>>64905935
i feel ya. my old man is near dead, and hes got like 5 barrels and various unspecified rounds filling his drawers. hes like 30 years ahead of the suicide curve, the fuck, what do we do with a background shop filled with like 40 different aeroplane models

>>64906593
You can send me your ammo and I'll shoot it for you so you don't have to hurt your sensitive little ears and eyes

>>64906627
woah thats grim

>tfw modernized cartridge Lemat never ever
Fuck this gay earth

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>>64907110
Seriously. That's something that people need to get on top of. Make it closed top with provision to mount a rail on top. Chamber it in modern cartridges like .327 Federal, .357 Maximum, or .460 S&W. Set up the shotgun barrel to load like an M203 so it can take standard shells. That would make a super handy do-anything gun.

>>64905214
>the AR7 pistol with no barrel on it
Good chortle

>>64905932
Magically cool

>>64903601
The one I've seen is a Rhineland Arms FG-9 which is a ridiculously overpriced PCC that superficially resembles an FG-42.
If that's something you actually want then I don't know what to tell you. Not only is it completely impractical and probably not very well made, but it is ludicrously expensive and not even close to what an FG-42 actually is. If you really want an FG-42 the Smith Machine Group repros are at least semi automatic rifles in 8mm Mauser that are mechanically similar (sans open bolt and full auto capabilities) but those are also ludicrously expensive with a very long wait time between ordering and receiving.

Just don't. You'll be spending good money that would be better spent on anything else to get something that you will not be satisfied with.
>>64901775
Wolf T91 would definitely be in budget. I have an RDB but that would be stretching it a bit unless you get one used for cheap.
Can't vouch for the Ruger American.
>>64901832
416 is much newer. MP5 has been around for a long time and has been widely licensed, plus all patents for it have run by now. If you just want an AR with a piston there are tons of options, such as the Wolf T91 upper the other anon asked about.
>>64900495
I usually go with whatever Primary Arms optic suits the budget and purpose. They make a very nice compact 3x although their closed emitter red dot is cheaper. I have one for my AK. Never had any issues with any PA optic.

>>64876900
i am not used to electronic scopes but recently tried zeroing one but it consistently hit's high left and further distances only made it worse any tips would be appreciated the scope is a wraith 4K Mini

>>64908191
Do adjustments go the other way? Point of aim movement vs the more common point of impact

>>64906580
Special high energy subsonic bullet, like a more powerful and flatter 300blk. Also goes supersonic pretty respectably

>>64908425
Isn't it also pretty much dead

>>64908425
Why such a minor incremental improvement over .300 BLK? If the goal is to maxx supersonic loads then .510 whisper shits all over it.

>>64908600
It's quite a big energy improvement without excessive noise or a rainbow trajectory. It's a good hunting round
>>64908460
Not dead, factory rifles are just coming out now

>>64908420
it is point of impact, so once it wouldn't move further in a direction me and my father kinda gave up for the day. so i thought this would be the best place to find some help

>>64908657
How are your bases/mount/rings? Is it real or chinese? You might have to shim it so the scopes actualy pointing the correct direction

>>64908657
interesting. I assume your mounts are even. Maybe a warranty issue if it can't track far enough even to zero

>>64908663
it is mounted directly to the rail of my fathers ar so i didn't thread lock it because i didn't want to deal with the pain later but it did try to come lose once but that was after a few shots and after tightening we ran like 2 or so mags with no loosening

>>64908669
my next step if i can't fix it is to contact support to see if they have anything that could help

>>64908690
Yeah but like the other guy said, make sure it's actually pointing straight. Probably is but maybe not. Don't modify things or it'll effect warranty

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>>64908663
>>64908738
as far as i can tell it is straight also i checked again and there was no wobble

>>64891055
Just in case you're still lurking:
http://files.catbox.moe/keapp7.rar
https://files.catbox.moe/ji47aw.rar
https://files.catbox.moe/us0toc.7z
Catbox is timing out for me, but these links used to work. There was also some fuckery involved in getting it to work on windows 10 and up, but it wasn't too hard.

>>64881869
You know, now that it's been a couple months since I last saw that, I have to wonder if that isn't some meme choke device or maybe the center of one of those bigass old 60s chokes for a 12ga. Not an adjustable one, just huge.

>>64882299
Retarded question I know but does this help? Also checked.
youtube.com/watch?v=59cSUb2RW5g&t=57

>>64908690
Yeh but not all rails are cut equal, or there could be some debrie under the scope where its not sitting flat.

>>64887426
The more I shoot the better I can spot hits at distance and use irons but there's a reason why I like shooting scoped rifles. Also this is why those orange sticker targets and Shoot-N-See targets exist.

>>64887586
>DIY Shoot N See
Dafuq thanks anon

>>64893019
>>64893024
A smith would charge like $100-150 for that job. Just get a competent one to do it. If you can give them just the bare barrel, it will be cheaper. But being so close to the FSP I'd err a little on the long side. If you can mark a "threads go no further back than here" point on a fully complete upper with handguards and gas block, that would be best as not to have problems with the gas block and flash hider touching. Also those "gold" mags are worn down black follower Okays. Pay no more than like $10. They're very common.

>>64896302
Harbor Freight has a couple thicknesses of nitrile; they'll be the most common gloves you're more than likely to have local with a good selection in various qualities. I miss my Gorilla Grip thick gloves though.

>>64901066
I think that might have been one on snubnose revolvers? Might be wrong. May be thinking of the pocket carry video where he absolutely shreds that sweet 80s/90s nylon windbreaker.

>>64908804
What else is on that rail? I see a backup rear sight and maybe something else. Remove those and try again; optics touching anything other than their mount can cause funky things to happen. Also, before tightening the mount, be sure it's pushed all the way FORWARD in the slot it's in before tightening down. Backwards to how you might instinctually install it, I know. It took me a while to get used to it but it's the right way.

>>64876900
Has any anon here made their own composite stock before? I mean, how hard can it really be? Only considering it because literally no one makes what I want. What's the core material of these things, anyways? I don't even want anything crazy, just want to figure out how I can make one and keep it stiff. Bedding and cuts would be cloned from a factory stock with urethane for ease of manufacture. Curious if anyone else has looked into this as I'm just starting. I do have some experience with molding and casting resin FWIW, just nothing this big or as demanding of being so dimensionally accurate. Not to mention the length and stiffness requirements. You can kinda fudge small parts into working when the shapes are organic and tolerances are "if I can make it fit, it's good". Not so with straight edges and inletting.

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Fuck, I forgot my pic. Anyways, I have experience with silicones, urethane resins (hard), and urethane foam. Never anything with fiberglass or fillers. I'd try to make it in plywood and fudge the inletting with a mold of good inletting and bedding resin but holy fuck trust me plywood is so heavy lol. Been there done that; it weighs more than the barreled action and makes it extremely rear heavy.

>>64909731
Gonna scrub through the snubnose videos. It's not the pocket fire video (the jackets in that one aren't as outrageous). Link for the hell of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAYkoXtulWI

Deleted my last post because I immediately found it. Thank you, friend. Behold, the Paul Harrell Plaid Experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ru1SldF5BM&t=3m40s

>>64908125
Rdb are selling for 740-850 around me and that is why they are on the list. T91 i need to wait on restock for the 16in unless gunsmiths will pin and weld the 14.5. ruger american stanag looks nice but savage is cheaper and tikka does everything better and howa is slightly better built when I looked up reviews. I looked into them simply because I wasn't seeing stock for anything but the american predator. Some sites have the ranch.
>>64908425
What a weird thing.

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>>64910300
But seriously I still remember when these were 900 dollars and up for base 17in.

>>64909766
>>64909776
Most "composite" stocks are just wood with a layer or two of fiberglass over the top. It's the same basic idea as surfboard construction. Make a core, cover it in cloth & resin, vac bag it, clean it up afterward.

>>64909668
i will try cleaning the rails and make sure they are flat
>>64909731
the other thing is a IR Illuminator i will try removing those and mounting the way you suggested i am not really used to rail mounting so this could be the issue

>>64877392
I honestly wanna compare the 45-70 to the 50 ae…. The 50 ae is a lot smaller round in terms of powder capacity, but it’s way better matched in terms of powder used to the tiny barrel length it sits in….

>>64877671
…. I kinda wanna try hand loading for it… use the lightest possible 45-70 bullet and then put it on something like h110 or lil gun…. Slow pistol powder, but fast compared to usual rifle powder..

>>64910651
>"wood stocks are bad because moisture means warping and swelling"
>buy composite stock
>look inside
>wood
Huh. But to be serious, that's odd; I figured they were wood free. I'll have to look into it more, thanks anon. I assumed inside they'd be dense foam or a resin mixed heavily with glass "balloons" (basically hollow sand) maybe with fiberglass poles or carbon/fiberglass/aluminum arrow shaft inside as a stiffener if required and a fiberglass shell. I know M16 A1/A2 stocks are foam filled as well as a few other guns including the Nylon 66 IIRC. Oddly all nylon shelled examples. Funny enough I don't think I even have a stock to copy and reverse engineer; all my stocks are either wood or nylon.

>>64911930
There are some that are made in a mold with foam fill, that's also a thing.
This PDF is written with boat part fabrication in mind but the same procedures are used for making stocks too.
https://www.westsystem.com/app/uploads/2023/06/2023.05_WS_Vacuum-Bagging-Techniques-Manual.pdf

>>64882283
I dunno, everything else I read on it was that we hadn't figured out different gas port sizes yet and it was there to increase backpressure to ensure reliable cycling. Given the design of the moderator and how long it took the market to unfuck dissipators I believe it.

Dumbass question, but in my defense I have never used a red dot before. But how do you really zero them? The reticle moves in relation to your eye so I worry about fucking it up. Also the dot is kinda obscuring the target so I can't even really tell if I'm aiming where I intend to aim

>>64912340
Same as any other sight.
>shoot group using a support of some kind
>determine center of group.
>measure how far group is off from bullseye
>adjust screws the correct number of clicks
>fire another group to double check
>repeat as necessary.

RTFM to figure out if the adjustment screws move the reticle or the point of impact. It's not too hard to figure out. Let's say you shoot a group at 50 yards and you find out that it's 2.5 inches high and 3 inches to the right. Your manual says your optic has 1/4 MOA per click. Your elevation is off 5 MOA, so you need to adjust 20 clicks. Your windage is off 6 MOA so you'd adjust it 24 clicks.

>>64912340
>The reticle moves in relation to your eye
What do you mean? Red dots are supposed to be parallax free.

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>>64913399
when you adjust the zero you are moving the dot inside the sight. this is obviously exaggerated but you get the idea. right?
you want to move the dot into the center of your group on paper.
its not going look like it actually moved 1/4th of the way over when you look through it but the dot will have moved in the sight.

If I wanted to make my own personal suppressors what would I need to do to be legal?

Can someone recommend me a reputable place that can refinish polymer-frame guns? I went through a cerakote phase a few years ago and I hate it now

>>64914840
Just live with your bad decision, the gun still works. You spent money painting it, now your going to waste more money unpainting it but nothing is actually going to change. Now maybe if it was something with historical or sentimental value it would be worth refinishing but its polymer. Even if its discontinued and rare you could probaly get a replacement for it.

>>64913425
Thank you for spending 5 minutes in photoshop, that picture explains what you're talking about perfectly

Recommend the best hunting rifle in .243 with a max budget of $1200

>>64914840
That's not really a thing. Very few coatings work on plastic. You could have it re-cerakoted a different color but there is no going back to factory condition.

>>64912151
I'll have to check that out, thanks anon. Maybe I should check out resin company sites or send some emails to see if I can find more info. WestSystem, TotalBoat, AlumiLite, or Smooth-On, maybe. I know Smooth-On tends to have lots of random info pages; I wouldn't be surprised if they had a page on materials recommendations for stocks. Seems like every time I think about making something it seems they have a page with recommended materials and an example pic from a customer, often a commercial example/install. Probably a good time to use a stiff but flexible urethane mold and a ply box.

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>>64876900
I normally don't like derringers, but I like the old High Standard double-action derringer enough that I bought two of them. I keep one on me alongside my Ruger LCR as a "last ditch", and keep one hidden in my car.

>>64887048
Learn to shoot right handed, retard.

>>64916625
Tikka, cz or howa. You could go Savage if you are on a really tight budget but personally tikka makes good rifles.

>>64917756
I think there's loads of different ways you could do it, it just depends on what your final goal is. I'd use different techniques for building a heavy benchrest gun vs. a lightweight backpacking rifle. Caliber matters too. If you're building a stock for something with light recoil then strength isn't much of a factor. OTOH if the stock is for a magnum hunting rifle with a super-light barrel then it needs to be reinforced in the critical areas so it can survive the recoil forces.

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>>64918118
sure pal

>>64922378
>Caliber matters too. If you're building a stock for something with light recoil then strength isn't much of a factor.
>[but] if the stock is for a magnum hunting rifle[...]
Oh it's for a magnum alright. ...22 mag.
>design
I'm considering using some fiberglass poles in the center for stiffness but we'll see. Arrow shafts are also good, maybe even stiffer. Fiberglass or carbon. I'll probably go with a medium to high density foam core. Just unsure of glassing and especially inletting. Don't even have the rifle yet, just considering it. Wonder if a more enthusiast site like Sniper's Hide might have good info on something like this. Seems easy to find info on making and bedding wood, but composites and molds are really more of a boutique or commercial scale thing. I wonder if getting my hands on a cheap airsoft gun close to what I want might be a good option to use to modify and smooth out to make a mold from. I just have to keep in mind adding a shell of fiberglass means adding thickness on all surfaces. Makes bedding fun, though if I could get my hands on a screwed up wood or polymer stock, I could probably just cut the receiver section off, sand it down, and use it as an insert if I can keep it straight in the mold, much like steel reinforcements in polymer AK mags. Urethane foam sticks to wood very well FWIW. The whole thing is getting a coat of paint anyways.