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Post the most /k/ fictional societies that you know of. Don't be afraid to include ones made by leftoids to mock us. They always make their superiors look awesome when trying to mock us. Super Earth is among the most /k/ in existence:
>Everyone who comes of age gets a rifle as a gift
>Firearm training is either an elective at worst or mandatory part of education at best depending on the planet
>Any man-portable weapon available to the military is also sold to civilians for home defense
>Anyone in the military can call in enough fire support to level entire legions of foes, and they frequently do
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Buy an ad, Joel.
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>>64882655
Not enough rampant homosexuality and leather. Pic related however...
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>>64882655
Can't get much more /k/ then Super earth and i don't think it's just the recency bias talking there. Plenty of the groups or states in fiction have all the same gusto for war and weapons if not even more but past the degree/way thich super earth takes it the veneer of being a even little grounded in reality starts being wore much to thin. Like yeah sure i guess Orkz match and exceed the Super sweeds in a ratio of weapons to bodycount and they're even more eager to get into the fight but at that point you're already well outside the scope of /k/. Super Earth also keeps space cannons hidden under playgrounds, have Mandatory volunteer militia drills for all and children are given grenades at school so they can suicide bomb aliens during attack.
Uhh never mind, i remember, Here. The governent set up in this political rural power masturbation is basically nothing but the /k/ ideal getting sucked dry of it's nut juice.
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Gattica. Starship troopers subtle cousin.
Le planet sauvage, kaiba. Dystopian but rooted in Realpolitik, though fantastic, they're really more like hard scifi in many ways. Strong lean into the ugliness of war.
The Japanese always have a very interesting depiction of war, rare example of an aggressor state who lost. Balinor, balinkor, palabor, i rate it after akira. I suppose jon roh, wolf brigade is an obvious mention but it wasn't very well written.
The road, top tier American apocalypse film. Very well written.
Delicatessen? Though not really a war film, idk. It stands out in terms of society and war. Hard to place it in terms of genre but it's both bizarre and grounded.
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Historical genres are often unrealistic to the point they qualify here, especially historical films made before 1990. Names don't spring to mind.
Holy goat Mountain, very /k/.
I think a lot of foreign film gives realistic depictions of insurgency, far from men, films which depict life in militia controlled regions. I've lived in militia controlled regions, far from men rings true.
Let me think... Russia. All the tarkovsky, Serbia made a lot of very good films for a while. Rane is still an issue of national contention in Serbia, it's not like scar face, it's iconic, yes, but it's also genuinely relevent. Far more so than brat or many Russian films which tried to emulate it.
A lot of stranded in x type films are up /k/s alley but most are poorly written, clique. Castaway was actually good. I think a lot of deployed troops empathise.
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>>64882655
Fido gets slept on so hard.
>easy but fun zombies
>schools teach use of firearms like a gym class
>posse militias mopping up local outbreaks
>peak 50s theme
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>>64882655
>Post the most /k/ fictional societies that you know of.
Postal franchise
GTA
Saints Row
Warhammer 40k
Pre-Disney Star Wars (the people with the most freedom after the Republic fell were the Bounty Hunters)
Mad Max
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You guys made some great picks.
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it's really niche (the guy who came up with it is best known for making the team fortress 2 Surprise Buttsecks remix) , but the Terrahypt universe is pretty fun for /k/ related stuff.
>you're allowed to own nukes for self defense (2 at a time, up to like a couple kilotons). pic related is a battle cruiser with a VLS cell for a nuclear missile in the rear
>the restriction of firearms is not by caliber or energy, but by velocity, this has resulted in a 10mm iridium cartridge becoming the standard. there's also plasma guns
>not really any restrictions beyond that, you can buy and build whatever you feel like. buy a hovertank if you want (it just can't be made out of a certain specialty metal that's near indestructible). or a plane, spaceship, whatever. some of the tech looks pre-WW1 era because it's being made by a bunch of old fashioned Victorian era gentlemen, other is as cutting edge as can be
>if you're lost you can call for help and the government sends you a basic, segway-looking hover speeder and a shotgun to your precise location for free
>modern medicine allows you to no longer age nor get ill (hence said victorian era gentlemen still being around)
all this comes at a couple downside like there being a bunch of rogue robots and weird people running around (some of them humans, some of them 1-30m tall immortal aliens, some of them chemically unstable hybrids that combust when they break a bone), some horrible monsters and forces exist and if you're a human you're not immune to the plant spores that give you super cancer, potentially turning your body into an ever growing flesh landscape. but heyy, that only happened once.
also no trying to colonize new planets as a planetary civilization, the rulers of (what's left of) the universe don't like that very much and may send a ship to create a void in spacetime where your planet used to be
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>>64882655
if you leave me alone on a mission in robot stalingrad, you are a piece of shit, i didnt even bring a sentry gun you asshole
why did you dive in if you are gonna bail out like a bitch?
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I'm talking about Syrsa/Dutvutan, no idea who you mean with making a Koala Problem video.
in any case, here's the link to the "game" (he considered it a worldviewer instead of a game since there's no objectives) and a bunch of other stuff. Sadly he ragequit youtube and gamemaking some years back (Version42, Hotfix 8 was the last release) when he ran into the filesize limit of his 32bit Unity engine and didn't want to port it to a newer 64bit one. autism is one helluva drug.
https://archive.org/details/Zerahypt
some of the lore you'll see in game (Right Mouse Button+Q to scan elements of the environment and register vehicles to spawn at your leisure, there's also lore pages flying around you can read once you scanned em), some as descriptions of his music, others on his deviantart and otherwise strewn about the internet. I'd imagine some of it to be lost forever since it was posted on a long deleted discord.
but he did come back and streams on YT regularly (he is also making songs again, but appears to have abandoned gamrmaking entirely) so he could probably be asked to elaborate on any subject if he's in the mood.
it's a great universe he came up with. strange, novel, in parts unabashedly fetishistic (won't see that one in game except for bouncy boobage), and all around loads of fun. it's a shame he keeps kneecapping himself with stubbornness.
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>>64887177
That's a Heinlein book I haven't read before, so I'm reading it now. About 100 pages in. Thanks for the inadvertent recommendation anon. More to the point, I wonder if writing this ever gave Robert Heinlein a stuffy cuz man, reading it is giving me one. Sure is.
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>>64882825
Realistically, who'd win?
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>>64887177
Welp, time to go back to reading Heinlein I guess. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is to me his best for a number of reasons, although Starship Troopers is the most /k/ for obvious reasons.
Speaking of something completely different, Firefly is very /k/ coded, being cowboys in space you know.
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>>64882655
>Everyone who comes of age gets a rifle as a gift
This needs to be emphasized; Super Earth is a post-Noguns society. You can't get more /k/ than that.
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Live free
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I wonder what's worse : serving as a Helldiver or a SEAF trooper
It's honestly hard to decide
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>>64889317
On the one hand, SEAF troopers probably spend most of their time in garrison unlike Helldivers which are at the sharp end 100% of the time.
On the other hand if bugs/bots/squids DO decide to roll up on your backwater planet you are EVEN MORE expendable than the Helldivers.
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We just spent like 25,000,000 helldivers to save 30,000 SEAF troopers, I don't think they are nearly as expendable as we are.
I was honestly kind of hoping they would have leant more into helldivers being retarded bullet catchers meant only for missions where death was absolutely certain while having SEAF dudes be actually well trained soldiers that use actual tactics and just pretend that the helldivers are the real heroes to make keep up the charade.
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>>64889317
At this point I'm starting to think the regular SEAF guys got it better than us. Helldivers are sent in piecemeal to try and disrupt the very heart of enemy logistics and fortifications. No more than four men at a time, no matter what is going on down there. At least the SEAF gets weight of numbers and something resembling actual tactics, plus a longer training period (of three days).
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>>64889355
No, as I went on to say >>64887994
At least in that archive link the entire Unity project with all the assets is available if anyone wants to try porting it to a new unity on his own (or just fuck around and mod it)
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>>64882655
Is it too late to get into Helldivers 2? I finally managed to convince at least 4 of my friends to get in on it but it feels like we've missed a lot of war lore and events?
>Inb4 ask /v/
Might as well pop that question here when it's topical and relevant for the thread theme
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>>64882655
Sangheilis bar none.
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Step aside, Freebirths.
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>>64895473
>simping for the eco-furries
lmao
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>>64893538
Believe me, the big event fights were all buggy shitfests. The devs say they aren't scripted, but when they deliberately slow progress or refuse to set a completed city to taken it is very hard to believe that.
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>>64895548
That's not even old, just prior to redesigning everything to look like HBStech.
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>>64895473
Battletech is the anti-/k/, a gay peaceful utopia were most people never hold a gun in their lives.
Hammer's Slammers on the other hand...
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Immortan no contest.
Got the closest thing in the wasteland to a professional standing army all fighting under a unified command structure with a clear hierarchy and logistics chain.
Dementus was basically leading a bunch of rival gangs with very limited loyalty to him that were never in a position for a true protracted conflict.
>>64895473
/btg/ contains enough homosexuality for /k/ but not the universe itself.
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>HBStech
I still hate the damage that has done to the IP to this day.
>>64895604
>a gay peaceful utopia were most people never hold a gun in their lives.
There is a surprising large variety of guns in Battletech to play with. Just the game itself never give you any reason to use them.
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>>64897688
>There is a surprising large variety of guns in Battletech to play with
More importantly, most people will never hold one in their lives. Despite being monarchies, the majority of states in the BT universe are surprisingly progressive and left-leaning.
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>More importantly, most people will never hold one in their lives.
Same could be said for most people in real life. What is it something like only 1 firearm for every 12 people on the planet?
>Despite being monarchies, the majority of states in the BT universe are surprisingly progressive and left-leaning.
Unless reading CGL revisionist slop they really aren't.
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When good /k/ommandos die they become senseis at Kivotos.
*Verification not required.
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Honor the Dragon!
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>>64896638
>CnC renegade
Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time. I keep meaning to find a way to try it again. I remember playing it as a kid briefly, but never got to really explore it.
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https://w3dhub.com/
Some madmen made it so you can play the campaign in co-op and there are dedicated servers for it.
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>>64902946
>thought it was a genetic illness
>fictional aliens acting outside of compelled social signaling accurately assess the nature of faggotry
What the fuck I love John Halo now.
Seriously though the libtard discourse around faggotry is retarded and completely inconsistent.
>"It's not a choice, they're born that way!"
"So you're saying its an genetically influence maladaptive behavioral trait which we can select against."
>"No, not like that!"
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>Unless reading CGL revisionist slop they really aren't.
I mena, they've from the start been multi-cultural (except the Combine) and extremely multi-ethnic, but that's really an inevitability with the settings' history and they've basically replaced it with nationalism instead.
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>track pins, running gear, and gearbox wear out quick as shit
>has to be dragged back to a garage with a crane and have the engine yanked out to work on the transmission which broke every hundred miles
How did the Ruskies ever convince anybody this was a "reliable" tank? Note I'm not saying it wasn't effective and able to take a beating in terms hard use but it was made to be swapped out and repaired at the motor pool. Meanwhile the Sherman and most British tanks were designed to be maintained by their crews in the field and kept with their particular crew for most of a campaign.
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No idea. Lind believed this shit religiously, though. Guy was a notable memebr of the ol' Pentagon reformers.
His book also has his ingenious low-tech rural guerillas (Who totally follow PRUSSIAN military traditions, because Prussians were known for their great irregulars, right?) beat not-F-22/35s with literal downgraded F-16s because apparently they cannot dogfight.
Like, that whole book is just so schizo, it's hard to take any of it seriously.
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As a white nationalist who hates the US government and life long inhabitant of rural PA otherwise known as Pennsyltucky to faggots "from away" that is retarded to a degree I can't even comprehend.
>not sabotaging high tension wires, rail lines, power transformers ect
>not acting as bandits and stealing goods in transit or murdering anybody a shade darker than milk and speeding away into the woods on dirt bikes
>not using nerve agents to slaughter urbanites when I've been posting a synthesis on this very site for a decade
>not just making EFPs to ambush cops from the tree line
>not random murders with a .308 from the buses
Instead make an F-20 Tigershark and use to to fight an F-22. Yeah okay. Look even my plans for terroristic race war are pretty fucking LARPy but that takes the cake.
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>>64903742
The T-34 wasn't really meant to be reliable. It was meant to work long enough for another one to be built and sent to the front and swapped out.
German tanks had "better" shit like better engines and drive trains and all that but they were still only lasting about 100-150 miles before all the complicated fancy stuff needed to be repaired or replaced, which is also about how much range a t-34 would have before something important would crap out and need fixing.
Its a lot easier to just put the crew into a whole new tank that you have dozens of arriving on trains instead of fixing the broken ones.
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>>64903742
A different standard for calling something reliable mainly. The mindset was that if it's easy to repair, it's reliable. Which honestly might be a bit of a mistranslation. Like yeah the track pins wear out, but you can carry around a zillion spares and just hammer them in, and don't even have to secure them because the tank will knock them back in for you while it's driving. So it's "reliable" never mind that if you do need to fix something while getting shot at, you're fucked.
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by the way,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHJ77CDBwQQ
just something i want to share because I love the sound design and visuals of it firing
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>>64889751
All Helldivers have served in the SEAF beforehand so its not like they don't already have that experience
>>64889679
Nope! Each and every Helldiver is an individual with their own life and family; the upgrades staying with each individual Super-Destroyer and being given to the next diver is right in the Contract, if you read the appropriate section
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Thing of beauty honestly.
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>>64911470
Funniest thing is the families apparently get bonuses based on how well a diver did when they died. So the better you do the better your probably descendants based on cryo are doing. Which is funny imagining getting a check in the mail because your great uncle killed 50 bots before getting torn to shreds..
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it's without a doubt my favorite weapon in HD2
there's a slight learning curve with the reloading and fire mode switching but once you learn that it's an amazing anti-everything-that-isnt-a-tank weapon
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>>64882655
The Federal States from Firelock ARE the ideal /k/ society, down to worshiping a giant gun. No weapons laws, carry open or otherwise is required, submarine privateers from outdated subs sold on the private market, buy your issued equipment from the military, including armored vehicles, etc. etc. It's a wonderful place.
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All of you who venerate Heinleinian societies like Starship Troopers and Helldivers would actually hate to actually live in one given the social obligations they impose on individuals. They all claim to provide wide latitude when it comes to individual freedoms but you will forever remain a second class citizen if you never did military service (which is most of /k/).
How many people do you see rushing to join actual societies with conscription irl like Finland, Sweden, Israel etc
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>>64913863
I know nothing about this game, but I read these guns as follows:
>Assault rifle
>Light DMR
>Assault rifle
>Heavy DMR
>Assault rifle w/ grenade launcher
>Assault rifle
>Assault rifle
>Energy DMR
>Energy Assault rifle
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>>64913939
>Helldivers
>Heinleinian
lol
lmao
>forever remain a second class citizen if you never did military service (which is most of /k/).
You say that like it's a bad thing. If you're not willing to die for the society, why should it give a fuck about what you think?
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Everything here is an AR outside of the last two, will give a quick rundown
>standard issue rifle baseline all rounder
>same rifle but modified to AP
>incendiary AR
>specialized AR designed for higher damage rounds but less modular
>AR but with grenade launcher
>heavy hitter AP
>silenced subsonic AR
>laser just a straight continuous beam
>full auto plasma AR
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>>64913939
Not really the worst thing with book Starship Troopers. Hell in that you don't actually need to serve the military it can be any civil service for the required years. But as we see in the story non-citizens aren't really deprived of much outside of enfranchisement. Now how much you consider that a dealbreaker is more of a personal issue which is kind of the entire idea of the society, if you truly care about having a say in it you would serve.
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