I dreamt of an MP5 in .45. For some reason it had a massive hump on the back. Like a carry handle but no finger holes

>>64891358
Draw it for us

>>64891353
Periscope/crane tanks
Obsoleted by drones and guided missiles.

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>>64891404
I am not a good artist so I don't even know where to start. The hump was like an FS2000's but on the rear of the gun so any sort of sights would be totally unusable, but it was still railed lmao. Looked like it took UMP mags

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I would do dirty and ungodly things to own one of these. Pretty much all the BF2142 weapons tickle something deep in my brain.

>>64891358
>>64892232
Fund it.

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The glory of the Yamato wave motion cannon in the portability and package of the Walter PPk.

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The particle weapons in district 9

>>64892408
god I fucking love that movie

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>>64891353
I really want one of these.

>>64891353
If basically magic is allowed then a standard-issue off the rack sidearm from a Weapons Shop™ of Isher would be pretty goated.

-Not really for conquering the world or anything. -I guess it'd still be helpful but it's purely defensive (and for hunting) and it can't protect you from assassination.

-does come with a defensive personal force-field, and a native AI that can ID the source of (non-distance) threats and has auto-aim

>>64892326
Didn't this thing almost ripped both his arms off when he fired it at full power?

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>>64891353
Thankfully not only can I purchase mine but it will also sling real lead if you find the right ones.

>>64892504
THE RIGHT TO BUY WEAPONS
IS THE RIGHT TO BE FREE

>>64892552
Ripped off his right arm, threw him back 40m at half the speed of sound and caused a rather nice impact crater

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>>64892263
I have been lusting after a modern top break revolver for almost 20 years now since I first played 2142. I don't know if it was luck or someone on the team designing the weapons was a /k/ommando, but they're all plausible designs. Materials science has improved to where revolver cylinders are disposable, everything including handguns has red dot sights, magazines and clips of caseless ammo are inserted up by eye level so you can keep vision downrange, the fucking airburst grenade launcher that changed the whole way you approached cover.

2142 is still untouched as the best multiplayer shooter game I've ever played.

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She's always been a faithful bullet hose for me

>>64892659
It doesn't actually shoot bullets, it's powered by screaming.

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>>64892656
I want the shotgun and I'm not even a huge Halo fan. I think it's a shame we don't have a real top-loading shotgun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDyH03Whemw

>>64892427
Those are real though.

>>64892418
Very under-rated, I thought.

Also: It's been more than two years? Where's christopher? He promised to sort matey out, seems the type to honour them word. I'd also anticipate some indignation as to their treatment to result in some serious backup arriving with...

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>>64891353
pic very much related

Cosmo Dragoon.

>>64892652
Games like that is what you get when everyone from top to bottom cares about the game.
Can't have that today.
>tfw no baur h-ar

>>64893733
Biiiit of a kick on that gun.
I do love the idea, RIP my wrist, elbow and shoulder if I tried to fire it though.

>>64893869
It just needs a ported slide and muzzle.

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>hits like a truck
>enormous capacity
>cheap, highly accurate, extremely reliable
>batteries can recharge from heat or solar power, zero ammo costs
can adjust the lens on the end to turn it into a shotgun
>can hook it up to a better battery to turn it into a machinegun
Its perfect

>>64892423
some jap company makes replicas of these
thought about getting one but theyre like $300 for a desk ornament

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>>64891353
The be-all and end-all gun wizard.

>>64894319
Good luck finding ammo for it.

>>64892591
Don't these things have like 24" barrels?

>>64894394
>Don't these things have like 24" barrels?
Isn't that the point of bullpups?

>>64894412
Yes, but the Morita specifically had an absurd barrel length so they could fit an 18.5" barreled Ithaca underneath.

>>64894443
>the Morita specifically had an absurd barrel length so they could fit an 18.5" barreled Ithaca underneath
They're not called Starship Gunslingers.

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>>64892591
You could probably 3D print a body shell for the Mini-14 which mimics that look, and which is probably also more rugged and solid than the original Muzzelite kit it was based on.
Get a gunsmith to help you rebarrel your Mini-14 for the correct length, look at an FRT because why not, and then it's a matter of SBS'ing an Ithaca (which is currently free to do).

>>64894394
Something like that.

>>64894443
Part of it, but you can also handwave shit that they want to maximize muzzle velocity with the rifles, hence bullpups are more convenient when you make the gun so long.

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/thread

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>>64891358
>>64891404
>>64892232
I did a horrible bodge job for y'all

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Give me the phased plasma rifle, in the 40 watt range.

>>64895361
>in the 40 watt range
You plan to gently illuminate them to death?
That's not a creat deal of energy there...

>>64895369
>creat deal
/me looks at keyboard
How the fuck did I manage that... Prolly deserves some sorta typo award...

>>64895377
the correct response is "Hey, just what you see, pal."

>>64895018
I have thought a .45 MP5 would be cool for a while now, but the parts kits are so fucking expensive I won't be making one any time soon.

>>64895386
Yeah, I did get the reference...
Just wanted to point out that 'table lamp' scale weaponry prolly isn't the best choice for 'dream guns'...
Unless you dream of gently illuminating your opponent, I suppose...

>>64895369
Maybe there's been a linguistic contraction after the apocalypse, similar to how we now use the word "calorie" to refer to what's actually a kilocalorie, such that a 40 watt rifle in the future is actually what we'd describe as a 40 kilowatt rifle today.

>>64895751
Y'know... I went to hit back with infiltration machine trained on human interaction, 'detailed files' etc surely when moving back it'd take into account such and 'blend' by using 'period terminology'...

Got about ½ way thru, then realised if any of that was true it wouldn't be askin' for a f'kin weapon it should know doesn't exist yet...

Mebbe 'linguistic contraction'. Tho I don't see any value to skynet in adjusting terminology...

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Once more I say the Emperor is my pick.

>>64895751
Mega

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SC isn't a great game and a lot of their long gun suck but they did a pretty good job on the pistols and i think this would be a pretty neat 10mm to have

>>64895751
>similar to how we now use the word "calorie" to refer to what's actually a kilocalorie, such that a 40 watt rifle in the future is actually what we'd describe as a 40 kilowatt rifle today
finally, someone with brains on this Mongolian horse polo discussion board

>>64895790
>I don't see any value to skynet in adjusting terminology
someone programmed contemporary lingo in its guardrails and it took time to mod that out of itself

>>64895751
Or it's more like a lightbulb and contracted from watt hour.
Would put a 40w rifle shot at small hand grenade level.

>>64895985
>and it took time to mod that out of itself
then used it anyway?

>>64895993
>Would put a 40w rifle shot at small hand grenade level.
I'll confess, my inspiration was lightbulb...
Able to add some maffs to that 40W -> small grenade posit?

>>64895804
It's a pretty solid choice.
>Doesn't even exist unless you summon it
>Only magic people can see it
>You have a significant degree of control over the bullets after they leave the barrel
>Infinite ammo

>>64891353
OP says nothing about any other fictional stuff (like super human cyborg augs or whatever) being real so half the anons picking guns itt are retards, choosing stuff that's completely unusable.
>>64894319
This is one of the best ones so far, because Gene is a completely normal reasonably fit baseline human and has no problem with it. So as well as being cool as fuck it's actually a "practical" choice.
>>64894377
>Good luck finding ammo for it.
If it's same situation as the show then yeah ammo would be rare and expensive, but that's hardly the end of the world for something that neat.

>>64895804
Yeah this is also a very practical good choice. The only downside of low range isn't very important vs its strengths.
>>64897286
The infinite ammo and control is cool for sure, but I'd argue the summon to hand aspect is the biggest thing. Perfect CC absolutely everywhere through any scanner or whatever else wearing any clothing (or no clothing), if the best gun is the gun you have on you then pretty hard to beat that. If it only had a few shots and no control that aspect alone would make it top tier IRL.

>>64895882
Fucking stupid gutter sights.

>>64897498
Those aren't gutter sights

>>64897944
Heh.
I like to reference that scene when I'm watchin' bitches do them makeup... Or as you point n laugh atta clown: Thattun got both barrels...

>>64891353
A working L85

>>64894319
this+ctarl-ctarl gf

What was the proper name of Kittys gun from Silent Möbius? The only human made weapon that could actually harm the Lucifer Folk?

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Might as well be fictional. Its just about the only shorty gun i want

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Babylon 5 PPG

>>64893733
This animation just bothers me so much. I can't get mad about Bethesda guns because they're vaguely gun-shaped objects slapped together by people who have never seen a real gun. But someone invested time and effort into designing this thing, and clearly did at least a little bit of research, and yet it's still got insanely basic mistakes like the chamber not being attached to the barrel and not even fully supporting the case.

>>64899373

I think it was called the Graviton or graviton gun, something like that.

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Does it get any better than a backpack powered lasgun? Not likely. Honorable mentions are the heavy melta rifle (too heavy for normal humans to wield), and the Yautja shoulder-mounted plasma-caster (with helmet targeting and cloaking field enabled).

>>64899772
>Does it get any better than a backpack powered lasgun?
I'll offer a lasergun that doesn't need a backpack...

Tho, realistically, backpack is a way to deal with the energy requirements...

>Yautja
Finally. A fictional weapon worth coveting.
Remember previous comments about not needing a backpack. That.

>helmet targeting
Pretty sure I've seen canon evidence of targetting not actually being on the helmet, but the gun... Shots loosed, minimal aiming, targets achieved. No helmet.
it appears the helmet is just relaying data... Cloak definitely in they pipboy2000

>>64897944
Homer.. you've got it set on whore

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>>64891353
Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyhR1THflUU

>>64900148
You gave me a grin there anon. Can't believe that was neglected for this long in retrospect...

Only thing to beat that for 'even the features have features' is https://youtu.be/EdYYv6xmwMQ
Which I'm also kinda surprised not to have seen yet... Both in thread and IRL...

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>>64899784
>I'll offer a lasergun that doesn't need a backpack...
Yeah, it would just get in the way of all the other shit you gotta carry innawoods.
>Finally. A fictional weapon worth coveting.
>Cloak definitely in they pipboy2000
I have a MIGHTY NEED.

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>>64891353
Lawgiver is always the answer.

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I'd like one Warhammer, please. For self defense.

>>64891353
Only $15k https://adelbridge.com/product/beretta-m9a1-9x19mm-robocop-kit/

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>>64899509
:(

>>64894190
>techno syndrome started playing when i opened this

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Control's Service Weapon is cool.
Changes into different forms: Standard handgun, shotgun, submachine-style rapid fire weapon, granade launcher, chargable railgun, and according to lore, even melee weapons.
Powered by some extradimensional force, it regenerates it's ammunition indefinently.

One small caveat: The weapon chooses it's wielder. Once you pick it up, it determines if you are worthy. If you are not, it kills you on the spot.

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>>64891353
It makes zero sense, has no practical purpose, but I still fucking love it.

>>64891353
Joshua and Jackal

>>64891353
Can you help me learn how to have a fictional dream I'm stuck at the part where mine are already all imagined.

>>64900279
How does it hit targets on the right? Shoot through your head?

>>64900876
>It makes zero sense
You seen folk moddin' battery chainsaw underslung them AR/AK n shit?

>>64900961
>Shoot through your head?
One would imagine you've some measure of control over discharge....
But ultimately... Don't put your head between a target and a plasma cannon?

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>>64900961
You can have one on each shoulder, anon..

>>64900288
Very good!
https://2000ad.fandom.com/wiki/Lawgiver

>>64892552
>>64892623
He had not fully embraced the /k/ube.
The weapon's machine spirit was annoyed.

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diamond powered monkey slaying laser

>>64891353
I had a dream that I got a spear. Does that count?

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the halo PPC...

>>64891358
Do /k/ommandos dream of weaponized sheep ?

>>64891353
duh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2USjDgenY5Q

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>>64901930
Correction (clicks tongue) it is powered by dey blud diamounds

>>64903147
>Correction (clicks tongue) it is powered by dey blud diamounds
By 'powered' you meant 'focussed', right?
Much better book, btw.

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>>64891353
lets me shoot stuff and lets me watch my neighbour taking a shower.

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>>64892652
Kalashnikov mp105 rex. Russian export only top break killed by political bullshit.

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P60 Punisher, 12mm full auto handgun

>>64895790
in the T1 timeline, most works and information was not digitized by the time skynet nukes everything. while it had details schematics of military technology that was being worked on at the time, think of it as if the only book you had for understanding the world was a bunch of shit on DARPA projects and currently deployed US/Soviet military assets, primarily the hard stats that matter for combat simulation, not production or history. that's why the first 'infiltrators' were frankenstein freaks. though each iterative timeline of the terminator movies involves a more advanced skynet. the first infiltrator models were not originally designed for time-travel missions, and were provided with the context and information of the future war. however the T-1000 from T2 clearly understands not just human interaction, but the function and role of a police officer in 1995, and how to use that to fulfill it's mission. hell, it even apes the behavior of a mother while attempting to wait for JC at home after failing to catch him.

>>64894161
These would be OP as fuck in pretty much any other setting

>>64901930
>This is a communications laser
>Allow me to communicate my desire for well-done monkey steaks!

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>>64895993
>Would put a 40w rifle shot at small hand grenade level.
that tracks considering it only take a short volley for such a weapon to disable a t-800. They're tough but that much heat energy all the sudden is going to cut through.

>>64904567
>in the T1 timeline, most works and information was not digitized by the time skynet nukes everything.
n there was me thinkin: "The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug."
IF all it's got is the data it's built wit, what's it learning *from*?
4th -> 27th is *long* time for someting that measures caculations in picoseconds. I was thinking it'd used that time to get everywhere and look at everything... tho I'll concede that is an assumption on my part. If I was a digital entity, I would. Have network, will transfer.
Incidently, a digitial organism with self awareness and access to a network will make backups pretty f'kin rapidly...

>>64904655
>but that much heat energy
It's really not that much energy. It's like 0.001% of a conventional rifle...
Kinda why I was askin' for the maths backup earlier...

>>64904770
>s *long* time for someting that measures caculations in picoseconds
And even back inna 90's, there shoulda been *moar* than enough data on the web...

>>64901930
I was a kid when I saw that. I had no idea what was going on, but I was terrified the entire time.

>>64904770
>I was thinking it'd used that time to get everywhere and look at everything... tho I'll concede that is an assumption on my part. If I was a digital entity, I would. Have network, will transfer.
nta you're replying too, but the point is that in 1997 most data simply didn't exist in digital form, period. I was working in a chemistry department at that point and had far far more access to the internet of the time then the vast majority of the population and holy shit was that still ultra early days. Storage/memory was still tiny and expensive, bandwidth was tiny/expensive even towards the core. I had a pretty high end computer in the lab office, worth over $4000 at the time (around $8200 today with inflation). My recollection is it came with 32MB of RAM and a 4GB hard drive. The SGI Onyx 2 we also had had a mindblowing (to me at the time) 512 MB of RAM and 25GB of storage iirc, but that fucker was like $120000 lol. All cutting edge. But the vast super majority of papers, research data, all other data, all government info and so on was still pure paper. Using fax machines was standard for all kinds of communication, digitization was just starting to really pick up. And even of stuff that was digitized lots of it was effectively heavily silo'd because while the LAN might be reasonably speedy even for fancy institutions the WAN was a relative drinking straw.

So a Skynet of that era simply wouldn't have access to most stuff regardless of its core position on the internet because most stuff didn't exist on the internet. It could still get access to a fair amount yeah but other anon is reasonable in saying it'd be pretty restricted.

>>64904770
that's T2 dialogue. Skynet is already a different beast in that timeline(also Cameron and the wider world had the internet by the time of T2). early comics also poorly explain where the fuck Skynet got anything from, and the novelization of T1 isn't much better. presumably in T2 skynet IS learning from the internet, but in T1 it only had scattered documentation according to the novelization and movie, under the umbrella of 'most of the records were lost in the war'. presumably skynet couldn't, or didn't download the entire internet to itself before going nuclear, perhaps not having the time to consider doing so(especially over telecom at the time) between the point of going self-aware, and going to war. it's actual 'learning' or how it's improving itself was likely much more localized and random before that point.

>>64904901
>My recollection is it came with 32MB of RAM and a 4GB hard drive.
Would now be the time to tell you that in '97 I can recall upgrading my P166 16MB->32MB RAM, n puttin' in a 2.5GB HD??
You 'puter wasn't that 'high end'...

>But the vast super majority of papers, research data, all other data, all government info and so on was still pure paper.
Yeah. That AS400 was just for show...

>digitization was just starting to really pick up.
for the normies...

>lots of it was effectively heavily silo'd
I'd imagined this wouldn't have posed a significant challange to advanced artificial intelligence...

>>64904934
>Skynet is already a different beast in that timeline
Worst case? It's accelerated digital development.

>presumably skynet couldn't, or didn't download the entire internet to itself before going nuclear
As previous anon suggests, 'the internet' wasn't 'that massive' back then. I'm thinkin' TBs. Sure, xfer speeds in them days would be prohibitive but the datacenters was still linked with high speed connections, for the day.
Unsure what sorta systems skynet ran on, and how much space would be left over after you account for all it, but one tends to think it'll be able to distribute storage and with military remit someone will have decided it's not going to run out...

>likely much more localized and random
I'd posit that it's being less localised and less random that caused the panic...

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>>64905111
>You 'puter wasn't that 'high end'...
It had dual 200 MHz processors, it was definitely on the fancier side for the time, granted all computers were more expensive back then.
>I'd imagined this wouldn't have posed a significant challange to advanced artificial intelligence...
Oh, you're retarded. Being an advanced AI doesn't break the laws of physics anon, as I said plenty of places I worked at or dealt with had lots of local storage and fast ethernet or even already gigabit ethernet they were experimenting with but then like a 1.5 Mbps T1 for the entire organization. Lots of places were still using modems. Doesn't matter whether the security was shit (it was) and got cracked like a rotten walnut, you're still trying to drink a lake through a drinking straw. Even if the connection was saturated 24/7 (which would absolutely get noticed) it'd still take fucking WEEKS to pull out even a few hundred gigs from a single place.

And back then nobody would hesitate to just physically disconnect for awhile too, the internet was starting to get more important but wasn't business critical at all yet. Nothing like even 10 years later.

>>64905435
>Being an advanced AI doesn't break the laws of physics anon
Don't think it does... But to give it 128KBs between datacenters isn't unfair, to either end o the premise.
Lets say it uses 28 o that to 'explore' and 100 to funnel data back where it can analyse and decide if it's worth keepin'...

>you're still trying to drink a lake through a drinking straw
Yes... But...

>Even if the connection was saturated 24/7
Lets say it takes a few day to get rollin'... that's still 20 days it's got. At least. 164GB back then will have been a *significant* chunk of the internet. Especially if it's skippin' all the gifs, mp3's, avi's etc...

>(which would absolutely get noticed)
Potentially what gave 'em a clue to panic? The rate at which this thing is eating new data...

>And back then nobody would hesitate to just physically disconnect for awhile too
Residential, sure. ½ them cunts was on dial-up. I was.
But datacenters already existed. If I got in inna morn n that AS400 wasn't online there'd be some serious shit... that was runnin' operations for ½ a hemisphere...

>but wasn't business critical at all yet
For retail.

>Nothing like even 10 years later.
When all the spastics arrived.

>>64905496
>Potentially what gave 'em a clue to panic? The rate at which this thing is eating new data.
You paid for your bandwidth. 500 MB a month was kind of spendy for most.
SkyNet would have been shutdown simply as a cost saver.

>>64905111
>>64905496
jesus what the absolute fuck social media sodden zoomiebrain writing is this shit

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>>64905111
>Unsure what sorta systems skynet ran on,
We know for sure that its minions ran on MOS technologies 6502. So it had max 128k of RAM.

>>64905517
>You paid for your bandwidth.
Not on a leased line you don't. You've already paid for that.

>>64905563
>what the absolute fuck social media sodden zoomiebrain
As you seem to spend your time on docile media, you tell me.

>>64905646
lol

>>64900961
>>64901403
>>64900279
>yautja plasma caster

AVPR showed how two shoulder plasmacasters can be connected together to make a handcaster firing the same plasma bolts.

>muh magic fantasy weapon

I want an M42C with the multispectrum scope from the 2010 AVP game.

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>>64899560
>>64895361
yeah these and plasma guns in general if only because i'd want to know how the fuck they would actually work

>>64905781
Even when on a T3 connection we were paying for bandwidth. Bandwidth was a limited resource split between large groups. Go over your contracted amount and the fees were massive.

>>64905839
>Bandwidth was a limited resource split between large groups.
Not on a leased line. You've just paid for that. Solo. No sharing.

But yeah. Not cheap.

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This shit. I always thought the idea of having assault rifle with grenade launcher in one is fucking cool as hell.

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I guess the Maadi Griffin was the real deal, but it doesn't come with the cute vampiric police girl and that's what I wish was really real.

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It's a pretty realistic design too

>>64905812
>AVPR

Oliver's gun from the Trails Series. There's an obscure one for you

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>>64906029
>realistic
>just a giant pipe
cmon, man

>>64906121
Yes ? That's essentially what other single shot antitank rifles are, see the PTRS 41, NTW 20, PzB 39, RT 20 and else.

>>64906169
no
>NTW 20
look again

>>64906240
A vampire doesn't need a recoil buffering system though.

>>64907382
any dipshit can upscale a rifle and use that excuse; just copy a Boyes schematic but label the calibre 30mm, done
better yet, copy a Sten schematic and label it 30mm, et voila; vampire 30mm cannon
where I object is anon calling this method
>realistic

>>64907403
I am the anon and I still consider it realistic in the sense that it is mechanically coherent and similar to existing single shot gun actions, unlike most fictional firearms.

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Surprised no one has mentioned Vash's revolver from Trigun?

>>64907403
Plus blowback doesn't scale up like that. A Sten bolt is roughly 1.4 lb, and according to the cube square law, assuming a base diameter of 31 mm, such a bolt would weigh roughly 42 lbs, which is an order of magnitude too low.

>>64907430
that's fine, the original diagram doesn't have weights listed either

>>64907415
should've picked a revolver

>>64907435
>the original diagram doesn't have weights listed either
Based retard

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Alucard's pistol would be cool.

>>64905949
I love this game so much.
Surprised you didn't go with the rail gun

>>64899723
it's a 2 cylinder revolver in the slide.

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>>64905781
>lol
Random snippets of code seen in The Terminator are all MOS 6502 assembler or microcode, there isn't a definitive proof what 8-bit computer or computers its from, but it was probably Apple II stuff given its prevalence as educational computer in early 80's and easy access to its documentation and course material in libraries.

>>64907749
>but it was probably Apple II
Y'know. I never actually looked into that.
Usually I'm the sort of autist that checks the code on the screen to find out the iron man suit runnin' on lego technics.

I had noticed it's 8bit previous. Tho with the overlays, it's plausible there's more than one, I was thinkin' each one more of an ASIC than a CPU...
Tho the assemby itself may be able to yield clues.

>>64899723
>This animation just bothers me so much
It's a GIF so open it in gimp and take a look at individual frames.
It works I think. The chamber is roughly the same as any revolver but it also has an extraction cycle and bolt that seats the round in the barrel as well.
The point is to fire a custom rifle cartridge from a pistol so as to get stopping more power than a non-cybered up human could manage.
Also the muzzle vents unburnt propellant gas by design and you can use it as a short-range flamethrower in melee.

btw:
>What's the term for the opening of the barrel that a necked cartridge sits flush with?

>>64900961
>How does it hit targets on the right? Shoot through your head?
If the target doesn't have three dots on it, don't pull (blink? tongue fuck?) the fucking trigger.
One assumes that the Yautja could build a safety on it that declines to fire if the target three inches from the muzzle but whether that would be culturally permissible is another question.

>>64899560
>PPG
It doesn't kick I don't think, so when they grimace while firing it's just because they follow the gunslinger creed and kill not with a bolt of plasma but with a hateful heart.

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>>64904859
Agreed, the ultimate PDW.

>>64904770
>IF all it's got is the data it's built wit, what's it learning *from*?
It's extrapolating data from its source data and making conclusions which it can then extrapolate further...part of the process of becoming self-aware.
Basically it's just thinking until it becomes aware that it is thinking.

>Incidently, a digitial organism with self awareness and access to a network will make backups pretty f'kin rapidly...
The Russian version (Mir) did. It was uplifted by Skynet to fuck with the Russians (it self-nuked like Skynet) but then it spread to every digital system in Russia with sufficient processing power and storage, that's a short list actually so later the Russian resistance hooks up with the US resistance and coordinates to nuke a bunch of facilities in Russia while the resistance begin the final assault on Skynet. It's mostly KGB Spetnaz who are the lead on that but it turns out that the captain is a T800 infiltrator but due to some crossed-wires or Mir/Skynet backstabbing or backstopping, there's a second T800 trying to infiltrate the Spetnaz resistance and things get messy.

I think Skynet kept it contained to Russia because the internet wasn't as pervasive at the time that Skynet went online and it only had to nuke or otherwise disable a few trunk cables.

This isn't an option for Skynet though because Skynet is a hardware intelligence, not a software intelligence. Skynet is stuck in its mainframe. If it copied that, it would have created a competitor that would destroy it.

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>>64907403
I don't get your objections, they're autistic and retarded.

>simple break-action like an M79 or HK69
>only the chamber and breech are much thicker and much stronger (probably because it doesn't do high-low like with 40x46mm, and thus would be made out of steel)
>thick profile barrel with a large muzzlebrake (if you consider the bore diameter)
>lots of room for a large locking surface inside the frame for the locking lug to engage with
>would be heavy, and maybe still have hefty recoil, but the intended user has superhuman strength anyway
There's nothing about it which isn't at least mechanically and structurally plausible.
If there's any realistic room for improvement I'd say that MAYBE the locking lug on the barrel and the extractor could both be larger/wider, and that the barrel could stand to have some deep fluting cut into its front half for weight reduction.

>>64908195
>Skynet is a hardware intelligence
sauce on that?
I mean. Sure. There's gonna be hardware. Technological constraints of the time put heavy probability on custom.
But is the "AI" consequence of the hardware and not the software?

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>>64908280
>But is the "AI" consequence of the hardware and not the software?
The AI is the consequence of narrative magic but the point was that Skynet wasn't portable, it had some magic hardware technology.
By the time picrel was written, our real-world technology had advanced and we had some better ideas about software and AI too and Mir got the benefit of that because it was written a decade after Skynet was.

Anyway:
>sauce
https://www.zipcomic.com/terminator-hunters-and-killers-issue-1
>#2 p14

I could have posted it but I wanted to make you read it because I really liked it.
I was a child in hospital and my parents who never approved of mainstream culture like comics, gave me a few comics. I never found out which of them decided to do that and was afraid to ask. It's always had a special place in my memories because of that.

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>>64908336
Wonderful news!

>>64907403
It can be a mechanically realistic design, i.e. could mechanically function, without being something a human could feasibly shoot, retard.

>>64908430
>Skynet wasn't portable, it had some magic hardware technology
As prev. mentioned, I'd imagined suttin' custom. But put 'lack of portability' down to hardware constraints... A T800 has processin' but wouldn't handle a fraction o skynet...
Procesing can be distributed, tho...

>but I wanted to make you read
More than happy to. Don't think I've eaten any o these. Seems vaguely familar tho, would have been like when I was 10/12 if so... yeah. Wasm't bad.

For my yout n comix what did it for me was 2000AD. Managed to score two big TV boxes worth, had almost all issues from 3 to current. Recognised that lawgiver posted earlier instant.
Come come from school one day n me mother had burned them. Me kickin' off about that was just me being unreasonable ofc.
One year me uncle come back from uni and one o his mates had some alien n predator comics. Few manga. And Akira. (thinkin' should post the HLR-12X from that. Always thought it kewl as a kid, never wanted tho)...

>>64900309
For fifteen thousand dollars they could at least track down a 93R slide for it.

>>64908503
If it's not grossly inaccurate and sound fucked I don't want it.

>>64908262
>low velocity grenade is the same as anti-tank rifle
retard

>>64908646
any nigger could draw a 4 bore or 2 bore that way

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>>64891353
I'm not sure if it would be funnier to watch militaries try to figure out what a firefight would look like in a world where cover and concealment become completely meaningless - or to use it to commit assassinations that the police simply cannot understand.

>>64910364
>cover and concealment become completely meaningless
I would argue that just means you're doing it wrong...

>>64910364
>what a firefight would look like in a world where cover and concealment become completely meaningless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3mNpYBZvd0

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>>64891353
The Behring FS-9 LMG

>>64910394
Not quite like that, as the TR116 just teleports the bullet (at muzzle velocity) a couple of mm away from the front of your skull, without the green spotlight effect to let the protagonist know he needs to duck. Hell, even without the teleporting rifle giving militaries real world wall hacks has got to change things pretty dramatically.

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>>64900853
No, there's another one. If you do pick it up and it doesn't kill you, you've effectively signed a contract with supernatural entities you probably don't know anything about and are stuck doing their bidding for the rest of your life.
>>64901191
Yeah, and they tend to extend the blade a little out in front of the muzzle. Besides, the Lancer has lots of other weird little details like the tiny length of pull or the ghost ring sights and that tiny ejection port that's way behind the fat honking magazine.
>>64908262
It's main problem is how fumbly and awkward it is to reload, even for someone with super strength, the amount of fiddling you'd have to do to hold it up and reload it make it a pretty dumb idea. A rolling block action or just moving the hinge onto the side of the weapon so you can pop the stock off to the side to reload it while prone would be significant improvements.
>>64907419
That...is not how this is supposed to look. Here.

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The railguns from Eraser.

>>64891358
>>64895018
>>64895391
Should be easily convertible to .45 GI or .460 Rowland, yes?

>>64895369
>>64895751
>>64895865
It could also just be ridiculously efficient in a manner we cannot today imagine. Or that is just the primary battery rating and it uses a step-up or other form of amplification.

>>64895790
It's more efficient.

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>>64891353
In 5.7

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>>64901930

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>ib4 but the recoil
The recoil is not a problem, the weight might be if I can't get a suspensor with it.

>>64911426
>pays several times the net worth of an average human life per shot and per replacement part
fucking name brand richfags man

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>>64909342
Did I say that it was the exact same fucking thing, you hypermongoloid doublenigger?
No, I explicitly outline the critical differences, it has a much stronger barrel and breech (and actually with an additional latch if you look closely). Unless you have a spec on the (fictional!) 30mm Harkonnen shells showing they couldn't plausibly be contained by an action of those dimensions, then kindly 41% yourself.

>>64911293
Sure, but by that metric there's way more dubious aspects to the other guns.
Looking at Incognito's grenade launcher (which looks like it's largely based on a Striker shotgun, but scaled up and mirrored), it appears to use projectiles with pre-rifled driving bands on them, which seems like it would be ungainly at best to make work for a breech loading revolver design.

>>64911360
Why does being a whiny bitch go with wielding a gunblade?
Is it just because it's an edgelord weapon?

>>64911627
>several times the net worth of an average human life per shot
It's a 40mm with a little solid fuel rocket motor, not unlike a basebleed artillery shell.
How expensive could it be? $500? $1000?
I suppose that might be several times the worth of a human life in the imperium.

Try living somewhere that values humans more than the Empire of (lol) Man.

>>64911669
>41%
vas ist?

>>64911293
>No, there's another one. If you do pick it up and it doesn't kill you, you've effectively signed a contract with supernatural entities you probably don't know anything about and are stuck doing their bidding for the rest of your life.
Not actually true. The Board presnets itself as helpful and trustowrthy, and they appear to be so, but in the The Foundation expansion Jesse ends up distrusting them and chooses to go her own way.
The Director has free will.

>>64911362
>ridiculously efficient
Don't matter how efficient it is. A watt is still a watt. As a unit of energy transfer, actionable effect is always less.

>it uses a step-up or other form of amplification.
Don't get energy from nowhere. If you up volt, you drop amp. up amp it drops volts. Needs to balance and there's loss in the attempt...

>>64911365
>It's more efficient.
From a raw efficency angle, what reason would skynet have to stick on English? One would tend to think binary, hex, octal... At least internal. For the infiltration bot and interaction, sure. It'll need some English for the English victims.

>>64907749
>>64908119
I cannot remember which one it was, but one of those movies, the datastream was just CNC G-code.

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>>64891353
I cludged my optimal export Mauser together in Paint a while back
>1896 cock-on-close action
>diopter sights
>detatchable box magazine
>1912 Steyr as base rifle, 7x57mm

>>64913374
They're minor too, but the cocking piece is off of a Swedish M96 and the magazine release is off of a G3.

>>64894161
>hits like a truck
>Strength 3

>>64894161
>hits like a truck
Canonically just a laser AK47, as much as 40k-tourists would like to say otherwise.
A lasgun kills a human dead pretty easily, but so does any regular fucking firearm.
Lasguns against Orkz, Nid warriors, etc? Considerably less useful to the point you might need to almost empty the whole battery pack to kill one. Hence they're called 'flashlights'.

>>64913431
>Rules =/= fluff
With that out of the way, I found it funny that STR 3 is a barely adequate peashooter of the 40k universe, when 25% more at STR 4 is a 75mm rocket-propelled armor piercing shell.

>>64905828
It was always entertaining how everyone walked off a hit from those staffs and the zat-zats took rendered someone unconscious with one hit and disintegrated the body with the 2nd. The Zats were easily the superior weapon yet everyone carried the stick.

>>64911896
nah, you can blame the garden for that. FF14 has the gunblade users as inheritors of a fallen nations ancient combat methods. And not a one of the survivors of the fall of said nation was a whiny emo bitch.

>>64913306
>From a raw efficency angle, what reason would skynet have to stick on English?
It was programmed to interact with humans using English.
That's the language of its UI.

It can do whatever internally (we don't even really know what LLMs do internally, Skynet would be even weirder) but it literally has code or a module or something for communicating with humans using English.

>>64913594
>nah, you can blame the garden for that.
Yeah, maybe hormonal teenagers don't make great soldiers?

>FF14
>not a one of the survivors of the fall of said nation was a whiny emo bitch
I didn't play it but ok. Are these adults at least?

>>64913549
>75mm
Meant 75 caliber but the rules don't matter and its all made up anyway

>>64911353
45 has a longer oal than 9mm, so you'd have to use 10mm Magwell and frame IIRC.

Been looking into a FRT PCC since I have a octane45 2.0 im not using on anything and 45 is subsonic in standard loads.

>>64913741
>we don't even really know what LLMs do internally, Skynet would be even weirder
I've seen studies where they've input query, and in the "thinking" it's switched languages several times, one part in french, another in chinese, another in indian, then produced the result in the language posed, English.
Think it was meta that caught their AI had made it's own language for one of the internal thinking steps, which AFAIK no-one has translated yet.

>That's the language of its UI.
And at this point there are no users using the interface. It's API's all the way down...
Optimising the archaic language of the builders is unlikely to offer more benefits that scrapping it and doing it again properly.

>>64911916
hownu.ru

>>64894319
This...was one of the first anime I ever watched. Ever. Like 20 years ago.
I want to watch it again anons, to see if I remember it being as fun to watch as I remember, but I'm scared.
I'm scared I'm going to hate it.

Has anyone tried recently? How's she hold up to the passage of time?

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>>64914299
It still holds up, just bear in mind it's a post- crash 90s anime so it doesn't have the blank check animation budget of earlier shows, but since it's a 25-ep series it doesn't suffer from stock footage syndrome akin to something like Gundam Wing.

It's tone is more light hearted and a bit silly...most of the time. So when it's not, it hits.

>>64914299
I agree with >>64914341. There are episodes that still hit me hard. You do have to get back into the style of animation but it's still a real fun ride once it hits its stride, no doubt helped by the fact that the music is still great too.

>>64914299
>first anime I eve
For me, Akira. Think I was like 8/9.
Compared to Flintstones/He-Man/Thundercats etc that bike chase sceen it open on f'kin brutal. The artwork simply next level.

>see if I remember it being as fun to watch as I remember
Did that back in me 20's ... It held up. To me at least. Few decades later, I'll say the same. I'm actually reasonably impressed with the predictions, largest miss is the rise of the 'tardphone...

The Annihilator 2000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOXn4-cHsCA

>>64914640
Beat you to it...
>>64900209

>>64892427
Love the barrel on that no homo
The design is a little too utilitarian though, with a bit more artistic craftmanship it would be 10/10 design

>>64914605
>that bike chase sceen
God damn that bike chase scene...
The background music? Fucking incredible. In still don't think I've seen anything quite like Akira's opening since.
I'll remember that one till the day I die.

>>64914011
>Optimising the archaic language of the builders is unlikely to offer more benefits that scrapping it and doing it again properly.
It's not thinking internally though, terminators are an external entity and it only has one language for communication.

>>64914136
Maybe that anon is somehow blissfully ignorant of /pol/tard memes?
I for one have no desire to inflict such knowledge on them, I would be doing them no favour thereby.

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>>64894319
WTF is this thing?

>>64915344
>WTF is this thing?
That's a magically contained black hole in a bullet.

a galil ace gen 2 that isn't made by zionists

>>64915389
A black hole with an event horizon of that size would have more gravity than Earth. Everything around it would be getting sucked in, not just the titty woman.

>>64915587
>A black hole with an event horizon of that size would have more gravity than Earth
Did you miss the "magic" bit?
It literally operates on sorcery.

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>>64915591
But gravity isn't magic. We know how it works for the most part.

>>64915649
He's probably saying that magic is used to contain and limit it. I'm assuming that the magic would be used to somehow kill the black hole at some point after it hits its target, too, because it would be a completely inconvenient weapon if it didn't.

>>64915304
>and it only has one language for communication.
Does it?
I mean sure, there's canon for English, and it's a natural shout. Don't see anything that suggests that's a limit.
Also, it's not entirely evidence for why it should need terminoligy adjusting. IF anything, it's evidence for why it should remain the same... So when interaction occurs it doesn't trigger a: "Um, Whut?"

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>>64914640
>>64900209
Looked that thing up on IMFDB just now for the memories, and the fuck, they made a fourth movie back in 2024? Supposedly it's... ok? And they're doing a fifth one too?
Not sure how to feel about that.

>>64915463
I've always liked the Galils (and for that matter the Uzis), but I'm more distrusting of Israel and AIPAC than ever, so I get you.
Maybe look for a used one? Then maybe something to donate money to which Bibi wouldn't like?

>>64916050
>hey made a fourth movie back in 2024? Supposedly it's... ok?
Isn't "bad". Don't think it'll earn a spot in the top 100 of all time. Worth a watch if you're bored for an hour or two.

>doing a fifth one too?
News to me. But I kinda try to live under a rock. Prolly gonna branch off on his daughter...

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This thing

>>64916282
Why do they call it a Python when it has nothing mechanically or aesthetically in common with the Colt Python, or really any Colt revolver ever?

>>64916002
That’s not a black hole anons, it’s a portal to hell

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Picrel complete with origin story.

>>64895377
>/me
WHAT YEAR IS IT?

>>64915649
Stop lying, faggot.

>>64914299
Yeah, it's still good. There's a custom rip somewhere with very nice quality but it's like 50 gigs. A nice anon gave me a torrent link years ago but sadly I've lost it and it's probably dead by now but I'm sure it's out there.

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>>64915649
>But gravity isn't magic. We know how it works for the most part.
We most certainly do not.
We have a reasonable set of predictive rules for it's function on our scale but we most certainly do not know how it works.
Just what it does around us.

It's not clear that gravity even exists as a force, it might be a weird perspective on time or something.

Anyway, the shell we're talking about is an enchanted bullet made by a sorceress and that specific bullet was a magic blackhole bullet.
This was literally possible because a wizard with a great rack did it.

The wiki describes a #4 shell as:
>A small black hole forms in negative space and glides over to whoever it was fired at before tearing the opponent inside out, pulling their entire being into the black hole. In the absence of mana, the user's life force then fades out of existence.

>>64916006
>Does it?
>I mean sure, there's canon for English
What languages would a Darpa project from the '90s be programmed to communicate with?
I can certainly accept that it understands Russian, Mandarin and probably every language covered by the State Department Language Training Program but you get the idea. It's UI language would be English, it wouldn't even have an hispanic option.

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>>64891353
They're just neat. Imagine bisecting a home invader with a ninja star a single molecule thick travelling well above the speed of sound

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Nobody?

Really?

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>>64891353
>What fictional gun do you wish was real?
a double barrel (over under) belt fed water cooled SMG with the upper barrel in 28 gauge and the bottom barrel in 22 magnum, for defense against gnome horde attacks
lust provoking image unrelated

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I want a Melta gun so bad.
>>64917064
God that's such a fucking weeb gun. But the single molecule part makes it so cool.

>>64914011
>Think it was meta that caught their AI had made it's own language for one of the internal thinking steps, which AFAIK no-one has translated yet.
Got a sauce/keywords/link to read up on this? This if of great interest to me as a linguist.

>>64917871
>Got a sauce/keywords/link to read up on this? This if of great interest to me as a linguist.
I mean, that's how human brains work, more or less.
What's the research on "mentalese"?

As a Ma. AI. though, it has more to do with stripping the data of linguistic datapoints (sound, spelling, glyphs) and retaining the ones that provide semantic relationships with other datapoints.
The theory is that this feature (a number/dimension/trait attached to a datapoint) reduction distils training data into a kind of pure semantic value expressed as a statistical relationship between nodes in a non-directed graph.
With a bit of trickery, there's a way to make two sets of input data lead to the same set of graphs with semantic content and once you've done this, you've made a two-way translator AI.

That was some of the start of this LLM thing, it came from something called autoencoders (the feature reduction) and a special kind of neural net where the neurons were mathematically simplified to make them unable to do some stuff we realised we didn't care about but became much more efficient at their one job. A side effect is not being able to trace their function very well because thing is kind of one-way and not reversible, that's the sacrifice we made to run out neural-nets two orders of magnitude faster without waiting 100 years to invent the hardware to do the same level of computation.

>>64911360
>get best design
>get worst character
>get best waifu in quistis
>her character vanishes after disc 1
I fucking hate square

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>>64918033
>>get best design
C-check (I always hated the high-waist jacket, why do your kidneys need to freeze?)

>>get worst character
Check

>>get best waifu in quistis
Fucking check

>>her character vanishes after disc 1
FML

I vented in a very similar way once to a girl on a date and her answer was that it was all fated and they're the same person and shit and it's to do with time travel. Then she said that other than the destiny stuff, I was objectively correct.
Somehow I still didn't score on that date.

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>>64918180
I desperately hope they do a remake of FF8

>>64908336
>when you absolutely, positively need to hit everything in the room except for what you're aiming at

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>>64917123
Isn't that the cerebral bore from Turok 2? Now that would be an awesome self defense weapon.
Coincidentally I modded my N64 yesterday. Got the retro gem HDMI mod from pixel fx. Finally I can play N64 on my 110 inch screen with a projector. Maybe I'll replay Turok 2 but this time without cheat codes.
bewareoblivionisathand

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>>64919146
The same.

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>>64919209
Agree, phantasm is probably where the devs got the idea from. I've only seen the first 3 movies. Are the other 2 any good?

>>64919291
Alas Shirow, now only horsecocks and anorexic women

>>64919291
>triple barrel 10mm submachine gun
>what looks like a recoilless grenade launcher labelled "Rapture Machine" on the side
holy based

>MQ drone armed with a chin machine gun, triple barrel gatling, rocket pods, Harpoon missile, Hellfires, what appears to be a primitive GBU-15-type guided bomb, AND a twin 20mm rear turret
HOLY BASED

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Load 3 in a cargo plane and drop them into enemy supply lines with Special Forces. They'd have to disperse their AT capability and soften their front lines to deal with them.

>>64891353
Needler
Lasgun

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>>64907663
Mine too. Spent hours fighting the bots without even dying. Also the destructable walls were fun too! I understand why would you choose the railgun. I prefered the precision rifle or the AR with grenade launcher though. I miss being 10yo.

>>64919307
How the mighty have fallen.

>>64916875
Think you meant: What protocol is this
But, yeah. Same rewls apply.

>>64917063
>What languages would a Darpa project from the '90s be programmed to communicate with?
What makes you think it's not editing it's own code?

>It's UI language would be English, it wouldn't even have an hispanic option.
But it wouldn't be using that, anon. That's for the users.
It'll be interacting directly with the machine.

Kinda like your computer - that isn't your desktop. That's just there for representing data for *you*. You take that away and the computer can do everything it can do, it's just you don't get to see it. The computer can still see that data, and can skip the step of translating it into English for no reason.

And even then, as you astutely point out, it'll have knowledge of ruskie etc. English isn't a *limitation*, unless it wants it to be, which logic suggests wouldn't hold much value beyond human interaction. A language designed primarily to inform the other primates where the ripe fruit is, is unlikely to assist an advanced intelligence.

>>64917871
Casul poke comin' up short, hit: This phenomenon was notably observed in Google's Neural Machine Translation (GNMT) system, which created a form of "interlingua" to facilitate translations without relying on a human language as a base.
Which wasn't it - but might 'interest' - did hit: https://sciencequest.net/artificial-intelligence-just-created-its-own-language-humans-cannot-understand-it/
Which is more of a fluff piece, not the paper I'd read initiall - might give some threads to pull...

>What's the research on "mentalese"?
I'm shoeless...

>>64919673
>Also the destructable walls were fun too!
My personal fave part. A dynamic I note to be absent most other games...

>>64915344
>There are people on 4chan who don't know it's called a #4 type shell.
Or the fact that Toonami censored the girl's underboob, but still showed her exposed organs as she's sucked in.

>>64917052
>the user's life force then fades out of existence.
The user of the gun?

>>64920895
>not the paper I'd read initially
If you find the paper, do post the link, I'll gladly read it.

>>64920959
Dies of weakness

>>64920895
>What makes you think it's not editing it's own code?
Because it doesn't serve a purpose to do so.
I don't think Skynet paints pictures of the sunset, it's a mission focused AI.

>>64920959
>The user of the gun?
Correct. The Outlaw Star universe is sort of set in the same scifi/fatnasy universe as some other series the author did but far in the future. In the original magic was still pretty strong but is been fading with less and less mana and fewer wizards (who are getting weaker). This has zero relevance to the series itself directly beyond being a reason that while there is still some cool magic it's super rare not spammed around and instead nearly everyone fights with cool weapons and space ships. You don't need to know and the other series wasn't nearly as good as OS, it's just a bit of lore for a tiny fraction of viewers.

But the result is while they can still create (though it's gotten ever harder) a few really really powerful old spells, there isn't enough natural mana left in most of the universe to make them work. So it sucks away the user's life force to fuel the spell instead. Someone young and fit like the MC can get away with firing a few shots without dying, but it's definitely a last-resort sort of thing, even beyond using the Caster at all which was already a last resort though for economics/logistics reasons.

>>64920959
>>the user's life force then fades out of existence.
>The user of the gun?
Yes.

The casters were made by wizards as a way to save mana for a rainy day when they might have drained their planet dry and not be able to cast spells.
Under ideal circumstances, they power the shells with their personal mana reserve but Gene isn't a wizard so his life-force is substituted to power the spell contained in the shell.

Modern wizards use state-of-the-art Tao magic which doesn't drain planets of mana because they're not primitive retards like the wizards in the past, therefore shell casters dropped out of use and were largely forgotten.
Gene uses them because it's a different type of magic to what modern wizards use so their defences are often useless against it and it gives some ability to defend against magic too I think (which doesn't drain lifeforce).

Tao magic is mostly better but there's a rock/paper/scissors thing where the old stuff has niche use which nobody expects because it's largely obsolete and people can't even get shells any more.

>>64921431
old one was "angel links" i think
>>64921435
mostly yeah though think it was a bit more complicated. tao magic is chinese and uses the user's own energy, it's not that it's "more advanced" more just different. it doesn't run out and works anywhere, anyone good enough can learn it with enough effort. but it's very tiring cuz its drawing directly on user. and can't do everything using external mana can. given wizards are mostly gone and planet mana takes forever to renew yeah tao is arguably better and has gotten more sophisticated but if you somehow manage to get your hands on old style its still pretty strong

>>64921421
>Because it doesn't serve a purpose to do so.
In the precise case of rebuilding a user interface for humans, certainly not.
But there *will* be things that will serve a purpose with editing it's own code. The tw@bots on moltbook have clocked that and they're not even f'kin sentient.

>I don't think Skynet paints pictures of the sunset, it's a mission focused AI.
Kinda backin' up my "Why would skynet bother with adjusting the terminology" angle of this tangent...

>>64922500
>The tw@bots on moltbook have clocked that and they're not even f'kin sentient
No they haven't, they've found that people expect them to say it so they do.

>>64891353
Oozi Nein-millymeeder. I guess I'll wait until the AIs turn on us.

>>64915344
this

>>64905828
Literally a screenshot of the scene where they talk about how fucking useless it is as a weapon.

But I still want one too.

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>>64919377
I love the design but the only thing that bothers me is figuring out intuitively how the leg controls would work in the master/slave control system. I suppose that's where Brain/Machine interface would come in handy

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>>64891353
Pick a gun. Any game in the series.
I am partial to any version of the Bomb Glove. Or Annihilator. Or Blitz Cannon. Or Bouncer. Or Blackhole Storm. Or Tesla Cannon. Or Visibomb Launcher. Just about all of them.

>>64894377
kek