>>64892548
lmfao its just like cars before aerodynamic modeling. all the brands were different until they optimized

>>64892691
>falling for /o/ propaganda

>>64892548
>you are now aware French is a Race

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>>64892548
it's got downs...

>>64892548
I really dont get why people find the VIctor a good looking design. Aesthetically speaking most of their equipment was an eye sore.

>>64893284
Bongs desperate for crumbs of things to be proud of, which is still weird given that they also had the Vulkan and that was actually pretty cool

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>>64893284
Engines integrated into the wing root just look better.

>>64893284
It's Gothic.

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>>64893310
They do have something to be proud of, they had pretty innovative engineering solutions, superb engine building with sleeve valves or the Napier deltic engine locomotives.
>>64893372
The early version was at least sleek and clean, the upgraded ones are absolute monstrosities with shit protruding everywhere and mismatched shapes.
>>64893518
Just like British Women, British Cuisine and British Teeth.

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Race? Isn't it more about which country?
It's basically just different flavor whites. With Americans making the most aesthetic, obviously.

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>>64892548
>I love how Cold War aircraft have a distinct aesthetic based on the race which built them.

lmao, the US saw this thing and said
>"yah, ill just take that, same color and everything, close as you can figure it..!"
and you got F14's and F15's

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>>64895352
...you do know mig 25 is mostly inspired by the vigilante?

>>64895403
And the A-5 was inspired by the La-250, which was inspired by the XF-88, which was inspired by the Messerschmitt P.1110.

Play that game and all airplanes were inspired by the Wright Flyer.

you played too many videogames

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>>64895422
Pretty sure you are trolling, but fyi the a3j was influenced by the work done on the xf-108 rapier, which was a companion to the xb-70.

>>64895435
I was not trolling, but I got confused with the F-101... Apologies.

>XF-108 Rapist

>>64895428
The Wright Bros were inspired by Otto Lilienthal.

>>64895447
Lilienthal was inspired by the Montgolfier Brothers

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>Bong Aesthetic

>>64893372
>Engines integrated into the wing root just look better.
true but it's probably horrific to service

>>64893544
downs but delighted

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>>64897256
Do not question the raw, sexual, power of tea powered aircraft design!

>>64892548
I genuinely cannot comprehend how britbongs planefags circlejerk about this aircraft and genuinely believe it to be beautiful.
It's truly fuck-ugly, outright disgusting and nausea inducing.

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>>64897256
Bongs shouldn't never have been allowed to build airplanes.

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>>64897256
>One of a kind prototype designed purely for testing flight positions
Come on Anon, we made some right pigs of aircraft, do better. Don't pick something that inherently was going to be ugly.

>>64897880
It's the ugliest of the V-bombers which makes it even more baffling as to why people fap to it.
t. Britbong

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>>64897927
The valiant is objectively the worst looking because of the cruciform tail and bulging cockpit
Then vulcan, again because of the bulging cockpit and upsettingly wide and blunt nose
Victor has perfect clean lines, an aggressive slant to her shoulders, and a sick tail

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Everyone remembers the Vulcan and Victor, I had to search to remember the Valiant.
Though when it comes to bombers, I like them ugly/odd looking.

>>64898015
From certain angles the Victor looks great, from others it looks unnatural. I think the fuselage is too smooth compared to ridges and bumps on the wings. Did later variants get fattened up a bit? Because some images I see look different.

>>64892976
It ain't propaganda if it's true. To be sure, it was more than just pure aerodynamics, but certain designs became "optimal," and so the incentive to deviate became nonexistent.

>>64893246
>>64895287
Race is not a technical term from anthropology, it's a generic term used to refer to categories of people of varying sizes. The Europeans had a far more nuanced view of "race" before the internet came and led to the mass-export of America's distinctly color-coded approach to racial categorization.

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>>64895352
That's a MiG-31, which first flew in 1975. The Tomcat's first flight was in 1970, the Eagle's in '72. You're thinking of the MiG-25, which first flew (as an unarmed recon plane) in 1964.

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>>64897237
Hell yeah, Skyray!

>>64897880
We're talking about a people that think spending a weekend in a trailer park is a vacation

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The French gave up entirely in the 60s and spent 40 years building different flavors of the same Dorito.

>>64893284
>>64893310
Russians seething about their 4 year humiliation

>>64898298
And now everyone builds delta wings. Seems like they were right all along.

>>64892548
>thread with anything british
>right around the time warriortard usually wakes up the amount of seething about anything british explodes
Kinda funny once you get it.

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>>64898298
If it ain't broke...

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>Adds more triangles to your triangle

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>>64898298
>>64898397
The Mirage F1, Super Entendard, Alphajet and Jaguar are hardly doritos.

And the French dorito uses very american ingredients...

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>>64898466
>XP-92
That thing looks so stupid, kind of cute.

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>>64898519
Note that midway through development the tail got extended to add an afterburner.

>>64893372
Honestly that might been the defining characteristic of early british jets, i don't think other countries did it as often.

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>>64898545
My dad was at this airshow as kid.
His best friend's dad was a B-58 pilot and took them to see it.

I have a bunch of pics and some video footage I recovered from University archives, if you care.

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>>64899465
Post that shit, nigga.

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>>64899504
Here is the news broadcast transcript from WBAP-TV for the airshow.

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>>64899520

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>>64899539

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>>64899542

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>>64899549

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>>64899552
I've got a lot of pics, though.

I won't post everything, as I don't want to hijack the thread. Maybe one day I'll make a thread when the shills get tired of dominating the catalog with threads about Iran or the slav civil war.

>>64892976
It's not propaganda. Everything undergoes a stage of experimentation before standardizing based on lessons learned. It's why ships all look the same, it's why tanks all look the same.

>>64895352
Say "thank you" for those SPAM cans. "Thank you Mr. AMERICAN"

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>>64899574
The way planes look has to do with the technology available and the constraints imposed upon the design. The technology available may stagnate over time, but a plase designed for subsonic speed will always look different from a supersonic plane, as an example.

>>64892548
Looks like the tip of a cock with the skin pulled back. I would know.

>>64898015
The bulge below the cockpit of the victor looks ridiculous. Valiant just looks like a relatively normal plane and Vulcan is sex.

>>64899940
I'm on team aerodynamics.
Ironically it's also the best for spaceplanes despite being useless in vacuum.

>>64900304
>Ironically it's also the best for spaceplanes despite being useless in vacuum.

Elaborate please anon

>>64900339
>plane need go fast get space
>air thick
>needle plan go fast in thick air, get space
>space NO AIR!! >:(
>needle plane long, long mean heavy mass
>heavy mass need more gas make plane move in space
>tyranny of rocket equation

>>64900304
Team powerplant making missles and rockets without your help.

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I love any plane developed from the late 40s to the late 50s before anyone really got the hang of making good jets and good engines. All of their shortcomings failures and quirks are very SOVLful

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>>64900688
If I were president I'd organize a special election to decide between retvrning the world to an early 50s technology level, the stone age, or the age of sail.

>>64899940
Wing+maintenance master race. You really don't need anything else.

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>>64899465
arguably the best ever airshow in terms of variety of airplanes that the general public could look really closely, even if they were really new.

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>>64900747

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>>64900753

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I love MiG-21

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>>64895444
a3j should have borrowed the bomb bay from the 101 at least, their own idea didn't really work out. Or at least use a pod beneath the plane like the B-58 or the Mirage IV.

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>>64899940
Armament won.

>>64895435
I really hate how so many historical photos are being absolutely ruined by AI upscaling in the pursuit of 'getting rid of ugly grain.' Look at everything in the background there, it's all just fucking melting.

>>64893284
it's got that slightly odd distinct bong aesthetic, like thunderbirds

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>>64901402
>distinct bong aesthetic
Well, that's one name for it...

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>>64898039
Bison that had to go to the store because sometimes you need to go to the store.

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>>64898298
But 50's french planes were glouriously mental.

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>>64902374

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>>64901483
Oh good, it's back with the milk.
Already such a long/lanky looking plane and that twin tail makes it look even more flimsy.

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From the back though. Absolute sex.

>>64899940
Everyone knows the CAD group would want to make a round ultra-aerodynamic model that is impossible to practically assemble in physical reality.

>>64902509
This image was probably made in the 80's, back when tron was the pinnacle of computer graphics and they were getting started on the f117.

>>64902390
You just know the first test pilot to launch this thing had sweaty palms and an eye towards the ejector switch.

>>64899569
>>64899552
>>64899549
>>64899542
>>64899539
Hyper giga turbo bangers

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>>64897256
Hot.

>>64893251
>>(You)
>>64893310
Cope and seethr.

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>>64898397
>>64898466

>>64899539
They painted fucking white walls on the tires, holy shit!

>>64904117
Riveted deck plating?
Imagine what that was like to taxi on.

>>64893310
In fairness they were likely the first to invent a functional jet engine. Frank Whittle apparently beat even ze Germans at it, although he went with a centrifugal compressor instead of an axial like ze Germans did.

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>>64906532
Bong engine madness is one of favorite sub ganers

>>64897894
Why you don't like a pregnant plane?

>>64893544
>British Teeth
The 5th healthiest in the world? Huh?

>>64906560
Not all that crazy for a 2 stroke. Is this for one of those giant diesels?

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>>64906602
A pretty popular aero engine in ww2, mainly on the British side, powered planes like the Typhoon, Tempest, Beaufighter, Sea Fury, Short sterling, Halifax and a buch of transporters.
I think you have the Deltic Napier engine in mind, that one powered a bunch of post war diesel locomotives and was equally insane.

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Past Generations just had more Style

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Lockheed made some gorgeous jets.

>>64892548
I only know of this from the Griffin in war robots.
https://youtu.be/fZw4YYXsT5Y?si=0UBMtI0osxUDxyu8

>>64899940
>Production engineering group
That's basically drone warfare right now

>>64900694
you would not, you would do what your masters tell you to do

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>>64899940
for me it's powerplant group

>>64912940
I would throw big rocks at them until they go away

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Some photos are clearer as to which country designed the plane than others.

>>64916550
How cool would it be to bring these back as APKWS trucks.

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Now that electronics have improved so much, maybe it's time to recover once impractical ideas from the 50's...

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>>64921653