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How does this keep happening?
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>>64908702
>India will retire its last MiG-21 on Friday. Of the 872 MiG-21s originally inducted into the Indian Air Force, a staggering 482 were lost in crashes—an attrition rate of over 55%. These incidents claimed the lives of 171 pilots, 39 civilians, eight service personnel, and one aircrew member.
They expect one of you in the wreckage brother.
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>>64908760
>crash or land
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>>64908813
Who the flying fuck said that the F-35 was invincible? It's a plane. You shoot it, it crashes. It fails, it crashes. You crash it, it crashes.
>No longer have a monopoly
Do you think only the US and India produce fighters? The US has never had a monopoly. Did the Indian Air Force flying French jets not tip you off to that?
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>>64908797
F-35
>in production since 2006
>over 1300 produced
>12 crashed as of 2025
>108 planes produced per plane crashed
HAL Tejas
>in production since 2001
>only 38 produced
>3 crashed as of 2026
>12 planes produced per plane crashed
Come on now Nimesh, get serious.
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>>64908849
The F-35 is also at the limits of current fighter tech, which if anything should be harder than copying everyone else's homework. It also has a VTOL variant contributing to its numbers, and those are by their nature more complex and failure-prone versus a conventional aircraft. If one of the two should have a higher failure rate it's the F-35.
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I wonder if they've ever lost flight crew to their pathological need to stand directly in front of oncoming juggernauts. A fighter jet is no train, but it's still big and coming right at you if you stand on the runway. I'm sure one of those pulling up just before it would have splattered you would bring many izzats.
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>>64908813
So superpower by 2030? Did you forget how this went last time? I think I lost izzat just reading your post.
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>>64908813
It doesn't matter. The Indians could produce a plane better the F-35 tomorrow and it wouldn't change the fact that the so long as the IAF is piloting them, it would be useless.
IAF had Rafales, a plane which by their own admission, is superior to the Tejas, yet they let the Paki goat farmer shoot one down.
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>>64909448
>indians just let the rest of the world fuck them over
Nah, they pretty much rape everything that moves, the main issue here is that Pakistanis out-rape them by every metric so news of Pakistanis expats being serial rapists are far more common than Indian expats being serial rapists.
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>>64908754
Bangladeshis are pretty good competition to Jeets when it comes to crashing migs or chink copies of 'em. They crashed F-7BGI into a school and killed 32 students, 3 teachers and pilot plus injured 171.
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>>64915166
>They crashed F-7BGI into a school and killed 32 students, 3 teachers and pilot plus injured 171.
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I'm going to guess that it was maintenance and /or QC related.
Indians do things in a weird way. You'll get a mechanic, for instance, and you'll tell him to do a repair.
Instead of just doing it, he'll round up some slackjaws under him, and have them attack the issue, usually with little training or tools for the task.
Meanwhile, Mr Mechanic is fucking about doing what he wants, and if there is an issue, he just blames the low caste chucklefucks who actually did the work, and since they are obviously stupid, nothing happens other than some loud words and a bit of half-assed flagellation.
Indians will outsource everything they can to somebody else, take the credit if it works and shuffle the blame if it doesn't.
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>>64908034
we may never know
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>>64917055
Chances are the mechanic doesn't actually know how to do the repair because he used jugaad to get his qualification instead of earning it legitimately. Their entire culture revolves around scamming and feces.
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>>64917121
>Chances are the mechanic doesn't actually know how to do the repair because he used jugaad to get his qualification instead of earning it legitimately.
That's a whole 'nother section of Indian culture that I did not address, simply because it'd be a wall of text.
But "yes" just because the indian mechanic has a box of shiny tools and a piece of paper from rammysphincter school of animal husbandry and aviataion maintenance does not mean he actually attended said school, or if he did, that he actually graduated without bribery or other sorts of chicanery.
There are exceptions, but they are uncommon.
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>>64918360
At least if you can distinguish yourself somehow you have a relatively easy path to much more functional countries. But that kind of brain drain might also be why they're in this predicament. They simply can't retain the level of talent they need across the board. A terrible self-reinforcing spiral where your retarded policy pushes away anyone smart enough to fix it.
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>>64918754
I can't speak more broadly but at least their air force seems less institutionally retarded. They operate a reasonable selection of airframes for their desired roles, which is important from the jump. They aren't flying a billion aircraft from as many countries and having to try and maintain the parts and institutional knowledge for them all.
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>>64918506
>At least if you can distinguish yourself somehow you have a relatively easy path to much more functional countries.
That used to be the case, but with 76iq streetshitters flooding into every country on earth, no one cares if an indian is "one of the good ones" anymore. If they were smart, they would have fought tooth and nail against mass immigration because the only two endgames are either they get sent back where they came from or where they are turns into a copy of where they came from.