>>64911701
>kilo
Nope, anything without a reactor or AIP propulsion onboard is a death trap nowadays.
Snorting is the fastest way to get dabbed on by whole ASW payload, since diesel is loud af.
Old diesel electric using LAB like kilo has neither the endurance nor the speed to sneak into a CSG

>>64911701
They could attack civilian ships inside the Gulf or lay mines, that's about it

Unless any of those subs were already deployed, I don't think they had a very good time at their bases.

the kilo's have the range to be a threat but not the speed or intel to actually get in position
they're also probably completely fucked because they're old but i can't say that for sure. the midget subs are useless at anything but minelaying

>>64911814
Kilo submerged range is like 300nm at best.
I would imagine a carrier group would be operating much further than that from the coastline.

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>>64911793
I'd expect them to sink some UAE, Qatar, Saud ships. this would be a sight to behold.

>>64911701
No, lol. An Iranian sub is the last place I'd want to be right now. The US has had several Poseidons monitoring the Gulf 24/7 for several weeks now. Those planes were built specifically for tracking and destroying enemy subs of a peer or near-peer level. Iranian subs are useless.

>>64911793
They are going apeshit, unrestricted targeting with whatever TELs left on the whole middle east, so that seems not too unlikely now

>>64911831
they'd have to snorkel and that opens the chance to be detected by radar but if they're not willing to take any risks then they should have given them up a long time ago but since their response seems to be a general civilian chimp out they're probably not forward thinking enough to get their subs ready ahead of time

>>64911701
The Ghadirs can operate in extremely shallow waters and the type has a proven record, in theory they could be of use in the Gulf against shipping but it's Iranians operating them so who knows.

>>64911782
prob just run a skeleton crew to conserve air/food, and just sit on the sea floor waiting for a target to transit over then

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>>64911927
love the P-8 Poseidon, basically a 737 with a bomb bay and a bunch of sensors

>>64912566
Sexy ass plane. Something about cargo/passenger jets being outfitted with military tech is just so cool to me.

>>64912612
Lmao

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>>64912586
>Something about cargo/passenger jets being outfitted with military tech is just so cool to me.
And then someone takes it a step far and straps sidewinders to the worlds first jetliner, just in case.

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>>64912621
>step too far
This is what I get for sipping Wild Turkey whilst watching developments with growing lust

>>64912586
indeed

>>64912621
stop bro im gonna cum

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>>64911701
what is Iran's navy even doing? i know one ship got fucked(pic rel) but what's happening to the TEMU aircraft carrier they've made?

>>64912612
Nah, fuck Iran.

>>64912612
You are brown!

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>>64912566
It hungers for the sound of an imploding hull sinking down in to davy jones's locker.

>>64912653
is the persian gulf/gulf of oman even deep enough to do that? will it even diesel the crew when the pressure hull gets punctured?

>>64912612
the iranians dancing in the street being the ones wearing western clothing and not also shooting aks randomly in the sky tells me that we are the good guys

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>>64912612
>Anyone else ashamed of being American rn?
Nice try. Even the most self-loathing lib-brained American would never say this. You are BROWN.

>>64912642
It'll be destroyed by now

>>64912653
Looks like Bert from Sesame Street

>>64912566
BLUE BOARD ANON IT’S VULVA IS SPREAD

>>64911701
Does the U.S. not have the capability to sink all these subs?

>>64912872
I would suspect that at least some of them are on sea, so they would need to find them first.

>>64912566
Did the 737 just so happen to be able to be modified to have a bomb bay and weapon pylons or did they have to make a new plane that happens to look the same?

>>64912913
If they built one from scratch it wouldn't be so close to a 737 you retard

If we don’t already have intelligence on their location (I.E. deplored prior to increased interest in the region) and maintaining minimal contact and moving at minimal speeds, yeah they’re pretty hard to detect and could get a first shot off.

Also, American surface sonar techs are worthless so there’s a huge chance there too.

>>64913023
>American surface sonar techs are worthless
Back on shift, are we, Pidor?

>>64913027
No, just someone who plays war games from the other side and is incredibly surprised how many times I have to hit the hull with a hammer to wake up surface nubs

>>64913023
COMSUBRON TWENTY ONE says "aloha from bahrain".
>The mission of the squadron covers all aspects of submarine operations from effective submarine employment to safety and logistics. Exercising tactical control over all units assigned to CTF-54, Submarine Squadron Two One directs submarines to execute theater engagement and theater security plans, and to execute theater antisubmarine warfare (ASW) campaign plans and coordinated anti-submarine warfare for Commander of United States Central Command, and to continuously facilitate nationally tasked undersea operations in defense of our homeland.

>>64912642
Please let this be the new Sahand, for the memes.

>>64911701
Could one of these sneak up on a carrier and get a shot off?

>>64913152
COBSUBRON 21 can figure out surface anti submarine warfare after they’re done hydrolancing.

>>64911701
The gulf is very shallow, normal sized submarines don't physically fit and these can't hide. So they won't "engage", but mines and delayed torpedo shots yes.

>>64913260
Nope, they don't have the range

>>64911782
Not only that but the environment in that region has caused overheating on the kilos which were designed for the littoral waters of the soviet union.
When the americans made the kidd class destroyer for the iranian navy, they made sure it could actually operate safely in such scorching conditions.

>>64912642
gone to hong kong, far from trum jurisdiction

>>64913260
These are being tracked and watched right now. I think that if they even come close to the fleet these subs will get sunk. What I really want to know about is the converted Drone carriers that Iran was constantly showing off

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>>64911701
>Iranian Artificial Reef Forces 2019

>>64911701
The dozen or so Iranian Nork mini sub copies should be laying mines, setting up captive torpedoes and looking for the thermal inclinies in the Persian gulf.They need to 'land' on a ocean zone then spend a week or two there in a ambush position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqWUzWDg68M&list=RDqUf3tqT4IDY&index=16
.

>>64913535
>Nope, they don't have the range
Germany could send submarines all the way to the US east coast in WW2 already, anon. You'd guess a modern sub has more range, not less.

>>64913493
hydrolancing who else? there aren't any other jobs pending.
a first flight 688 would mog a kilo, btw. the little shitty domestic subs they have can't venture far from shore and none carry ordinance with enough range to reach the carrier group or any of it's escorts.
this isn't even getting into the other detection shit the US has that nobody really knows about. hey, shower thought here, do you think fuckhuge electric motors might maybe emit some kind of magnetic field? it would be real weird if someone could detect that or perhaps the magnetic resonance off the switching gear from the main electrical bus.
>>64914911
i'm pretty damn sure that the USN has the know how to defeat the approach of a WW2 diesel boat.

>>64914911
Germs used type IX boats to reach us coast, which spent most their time transiting on the surface than underwater is more of a submersible ship rather than true submarine like XXI, which ironically enough, are very similar to Kilo.

Problem is, while XXI was amazing for its time, it’s also over 80 years since then, and using snorkel to charge the onboard battery system will inevitably require diesel engine to run, and they are a ASW magnet for being so noisy.

Even if we assume the Kilos can somehow leave their berth unscathed, with its battery fully charged, getting into position is nearly impossible since they cannot transit above 5 kts without depleting the battery in mere hours, and a carrier typically on the move at 30+ kts.

That’s why any non third world navies are going AIP or nuke, or in case of japan, they opting for a full LIB setup, while inferior to AIP in endurance, also cheaper.

>>64914911
not without surtass ships hearing it snorkel from the other side of the planet lol

>>64913027
It's pretty difficult especially if you don't have a towed array. I was in for 7 years and the only SUBCERT a surface asset ever got in that entire time was an LA class on an exercise who got careless and the aircrewman in the LAMP literally just saw the submarine through pretty clear water and white sand substrate

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>>64911701
According to my info the KILOs (old and worn out) and the midget subs are in port. The Fateh was deployed and currently has anout week's worth of fuel left.

>>64916245
One would think that after Pearl Harbour nobody would park ships this close to each other in a military harbour anymore...

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>>64914949
The ability of airborne ASW forces to achieve 24/7 ASW overage of a threat area is severely over reported
>>64916245
IRN leader is sitting this one out waiting to become the post-war Kourosh Donitz lol

>>64918260
Airborne?
No.
But submarine?
Very yes.

>>64916421
Everyone does this. The idea is to centralize to allow you to have a smaller footprint and thus have less area to defend. Helps logistics too.

>>64912566
And the cause of a minor scandal recently because civilian journalists have no idea what it is and think that it's meant to disguise itself as an airliner.

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>>64911701
>>64916245
First and only satellite imagery out of Bandar Abbas. Not to be confused with Konarak where we saw sunken Corvettes.

The lion's share of the Iranian Navy was in port at Bandar Abbas the day before the strikes,
https://www.hisutton.com/Iranian-Navy-In-Port.html

Only one ship, the IRIS Makran, is seen in satellite imagery damaged in port. Corvette berth 2 along with Frigate berth 4 seem to have been struck as well.

NOTABLY, the berths for both Midget and KILO-class submarines seem undamaged, at least to me.

>>64916245
>>64921789
tl;dr submarine berths weren't hit in the opening strikes even with the submarines at the berths immediately preceding the war. Submarines possibly ignored for some reason and potentially sortied out.

Speculation the Kilo-class submarines were spared because none are seaworthy,
https://x.com/mhmiranusa/status/2028534120985383373

>>64912642
>what is Iran's navy even doing
>>yes you heard me I am using all my sick days right now; no I won't be back until after Ramadan.

>>64921866
Navy seals could do something cool and useful for once and be worthy of writing a book about stealing a kilo for US intel. PURE KINO.
MAKE IT HAPPEN HEGSETH