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>“The Marine Corps will retain the M27 for our close combat formations as it best aligns with our unique service requirements, amphibious doctrinal employment of weapons, and distinct modernization priorities, while ensuring seamless interoperability across the Joint force and with coalition partners,” the spokesperson wrote in an email.
Bet you didn't think I would find the article, huh OP?

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>>64913524
Based

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>>64913559
>Bet you didn't think I would find the article, huh OP?
What do you mean? I'm not hiding anything. Here, for anyone else who wants to read it: https://taskandpurpose.com/news/marines-m27-rifle-swap/

>>64913524
>it remains to be seen if they'll adopt the belt-fed MG
If they're not adopting the carbine, they're 1000% not adopting the full retard MG.

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The most elite force across the entire planet uses a 16" rifle. Why do you need anything different?

>>64913524
Why did the D-Boys switch from HK to Sig?

>>64913609
It's a 16.5 barrel with a QDSS suppressor

>>64913608
The biggest problem (at a doctrine level) with the M7 was that we were going back to 20-round mags.

>>64913611
Tier 1 units try to use something different from the conventional military so that if they need a change, they can quickly acquire it in small numbers rather than wait a long time as Congress and military procurement get them what they are asking for. Remember when SF units asked for specific upgrades to the M16? SOPMOD took a decade to arrive, and they had to wait even longer for SOPMOD II. I get you are trying to imply that SIG is good, but those guys have a lot of variety in their armory (not just SIGs) just to bypass slow military procurement.

>>64913632
>QDSS
What?

>>64913669
Quick detach stainless steel

>>64913673
Oh. They should have used titanium or Inconel. Much better suppressor materials, those are.

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>>64913562
What's the point of having a foregrip and a bipod when you could just use a gripod and call it a day?

>>64913562
>>64913669
Knights Armament QDSS suppressor.

>>64913679
It's a suppressor. What a harder metal to it? Past a certain point it doesn't matter.

>>64913680
Because it's part of a clone rifle. I've seen the Gripod also being used in the Corp

>>64913690
NTA, some materials handle heat better than others. The materials that handle heat the best, like titanium, are usually rated to be able to handle much higher volumes of fire.

>>64913680
Because they're kinda ass

>>64913640
>The biggest problem (at a doctrine level) with the M7 was that we were going back to 20-round mags
The biggest problem with the M250 is going from 200 round belts with 1600 rounds of linked ammo distributed through a squad to 100 round belts with 800 rounds in a squad.

>>64913702
Eh, steel is good enough for the job. At a certain point you have to realize this is a government contract and they're probably only paying like 300 a can if even. Making it more durable would invariably up the cost and reduce its fungibility
>but weight
Since when does the brass give a shit about grunt knees outside of promotion time?

>>64913524
As long as they believe they'll be fighting farmers and gang bangers. They're not worried about 5.56 not being adequate.

>>64913690
Titanium is light as a feather and heat resistant, but emits a lot of sparks. Not great for signature reduction, but it's excellent when you're fighting in CQB. The enemy can see you anyway, so you're just taking the edge off when shooting indoors.

Inconel is like real life adamantium. When heated, Inconel forms a thick, stable passivating oxide layer protecting the surface from further attack. Inconel retains strength over a wide temperature range, making it ideal for suppressors that will endure sustained firing.

Stainless steel is like a middle ground. It's lighter than inconel, doesn't spark like titanium, but lacks the heat resistance of either other metal.

>>64913702
Titanium doesn't handle heat as well as stainless. It's used because it's much lighter than steel. Inconel is a little more dense, but since it's much stronger than either at elevated temperatures, you can use less of it without compromising the strength. On the other hand, it's not expensive and a massive pain in the ass to work with. Stainless is a perfectly serviceable material if your goal is to have something that's functional and affordable. Minmaxing weight is for oper8tors, not soldiers (or marines).

>>64913750
>it's not expensive
more expensive*

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>>64913609
That butterbar boot needs his ass kicked for having that much of a fucked up jig line. Can a lieutenant be njp'd for poor dress?
also, what the fuck is up with those scuffed shoes? what kind of horseshit has this joke been walking in and why the fuck is he dragging that into the hallway?

>>64913789
Okay, Mr Edgy, calm your tits. That is a student, it's called a GIG line and there ain't that much wrong with his, and you are full of shit. The fact that you missed all the shit he had hanging off his belt and is wearing a cover indoors without being armed is proof positive you need to shut the fuck up.

>>64913706
I have a FAB Defense gripod I used for years, honestly underrated.

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>>64913680
It pissed me off how Hop didn't talk about gripods in his "Sensible Autorifle Setup" video, BTW. What a miss.

>>64914146
Different faggot here, shirt, edge of belt, pant line. No man, he is definitely jacked the fuck up. That little cadet needs a talking to. One of those late night NCO doesn't want to go home to his fat naggy wife nonsense rambling talking too. The ones that get overtones of sex and violence sprinkled with remorse over a lifetime of bad choices.

>>64913680
more defense contracts

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>>64913562
>>64913680
>>64913692
gotta go full resident evil 3

>>64913750
>Titanium doesn't handle heat as well as stainless.
Seriously who the fuck thinks that it does, how do they come to this misconception?
It's a better thermal conductor for sure, which is why I use titanium pots to boil water, it literally boils faster.
Titanium also loses 50% of its deformation strength at a lower temperature than steel, oxidizes significantly faster when heated, and if you get it hit enough it will catch on fire just like magnesium.
It's great for it's light weight. That's it.

>>64914246
Wrong. Titanium has a very high melting point. Also the fact that it's a good conductor means it will lose heat just as quickly as it gains it. So your titanium pot might actually be worse than a steel pot.

>>64914268
Incorrect.
Ti loses 40% of its strength when heated above only 750F.
When heated it's also significantly more friendly to oxidation.
You see sparks come out of a Ti can more frequently because when exposed to high heat from powder combustion, small particles oxidize off the inside of the can and ignite, between 600-1000F.
It has a high melting point, but needs to be cast in a vacuum or inert environment because it will literally auto ignite in open air at a lower temperature than it melts.

Ti pots boil water faster than steel specifically because they transfer heat better.

>>64913524
I rather have an H&K made firearm too than the kike shit nu-sig.

>>64914381
Hmm. Maybe you're right.

>>64914397
Metals science is tricky, and Ti had developed quite an exotic reputation that sometimes outstrips it's actual performance.
That's not to say there is anything bad or wrong with a Ti can, but generally you should avoid getting them extremely hot or putting them on a gun that sees a heavy firing schedule.
For those you'd be much better off with a 17-4 can, or one of the exotics like inconel.
For reference because of the vast differences in alloys, SS as a material loses 50% strength between ~1100-1600F, much higher than Ti.

>>64913524
Lets be honest, it's because they can't afford it. They'd cream their pants over getting army doo-hickeys.

>>64914268
>Also the fact that it's a good conductor means it will lose heat just as quickly as it gains it. So your titanium pot might actually be worse than a steel pot.
It'll conduct it into whatever it's holding, which means it's actually really effecient as long as you're on the burner.

Stuff like cast iron holding and slowly releasing heat has some specific cooking applications (kinda limited today but they exist) but if you're trying to boil water then you want to conduct as much heat through the pan as quickly as possible. Heat retention is for keeping things hot while off the burner or for working with uneven heat sources like a campfire, where you slowly rotate the pot around and keep it roughly evenly heated as one side cools off and another warms up.

>>64914838
Not really, those countries relied on foreign money and resources
If you're self sufficient you can do whatever you want

>>64914233
holy shit I always thought that had some old skinny-long flashlight attached to it BUT ITS A FUCKING BIPOD?? FOR WHAT PURPOSE CAPCOM???

>>64914880
I mean that too. It doesn't matter.

>>64914838
we're not even close to that dude, the ija and ijn used different voltages

>>64914233
artists saw an image of one and thought it was cool. Sam reason as why RE9 has scorpion with a fucking brace.

>>64914782
this is the real reason. they'll wait and see and if it's successful they will switch over, like they did with the M1903 and Garand and how they were using bolts in guatacanal

>>64914858
>>64915002
might have been based off an airshit gun. a lot of vidya and anime guns were based off of popular airshit guns in the 80s and 90s

>>64914429
Which is why Ti is usually recommended for suppressors for hunting rifles and for pistols.

>>64916793
This is the decision. The last few years have been the waiting and seeing if it's successful. It's a huge clusterfuck piece of shit, so they're not touching it.

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>>64914233
Holy based!

>>64916942
they made the AR model to big, he looks like a child

>>64916885
Right. Either lightweight rifles that will be carried a ton and only shot a little where you see the biggest benefit from weight savings, or pistols, where both muzzle pressure will be reduced, and firing schedule diminished due to the limitations of magazine capacity and need for reloading.

>>64914858
Capcom predicted the SPR

>>64913608
Why? The 6.8 is a beautiful MG round. Mogs 7.62 whole being lighter. They DO need a barrel swap option though.

>>64917856
Basically, it's not really a good MG round. The high pressure of 6.8mm is for getting high velocity out of short barrels. In LMGs that have longer barrels by default, 6.8mm just increases barrel heat and barrel wear. The m250 has a 16 inch barrel. We could get some really nice 6-7mm rounds going from that without the high pressures of 6.8. If it was 18", then 7.62x51mm would be almost the same performance, except with less barrel wear.

>>64918014
I'm sure the guy carrying the MG isn't going to seethe about the barrel only being 14 inches. they kept modifying the m249 to make it lighter

>>64918014
>If it was 18", then 7.62x51mm would be almost the same performance, except with less barrel wear.
No. Not even close. The 6.8 is always throwing a higher bc/sd bullet at a higher velocity. Even back when I used to shoot the old AI 270-08 wildcat it was worlds better than the 308. Even that wildcat got you 150 fps faster than the 270 Winchester version. For that matter the army probably should have just adopted that.

>>64918077
>Not even close
It would be, though. I wouldn't want to be getting suppressed by 7.62 NATO out of an 18 inch barrel.

>>64913524
The Marines have always been a less well equipped version of the Army.

>>64918668
Until now.

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>>64913669
Corn

>>64918668
The beauty of the marines was their ability to fight on land, sea, and air at the same time. If the Army needed air support, they'd have to call the Air Force and hope that the air support felt like helping them; if the Marines needed air support, they'd launch their own planes from Navy ships and immediately have air support. Stop thinking of them as a "smaller army" and start thinking of them as a diversified force (from their creation until the GWOT ended).

>>64918387
you're retarded, the longer the barrel the bigger the difference between the rounds would be, it only grows with barrel length.

>>64914146
>wearing a cover indoors without being armed
Ackshually "on duty" is equivalent to under arms. Thus the walkie talkie.

>>64918709
>>64918668
>>64918674
the benefit of the marines is that they can be deployed way faster than the army. that's their current niche and what they are restricting for. They want to be able to get in and land before the army can

>>64917856
See >>64913722.
Riflemen lose 33% of their ammo load and gain 1 pound, automatic riflemen lose 50% of their ammo load and gain 4 pounds.

>>64918722
6.8mm taps out at 13.5". 7.62 NATO gains power up to 22"

>>64916931
change takes longer these days
longer time for negative elements to outshine positives
positives of course only shine through in actual combat, which has not occurred in many years
maybe the war with mexico will change their minds

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how's that workin out?

>>64913609
Did this brownoid smear jizz all over his pants?

>>64913559
What is this poster supposed to be posting about/implying

>>64920047
Either retarded or just genuinely happy to have found the article

>>64914172
>Caring what a guntuber does or doesn't do
Grim.

>>64920943
>Implying I don't know Hop reads /k/ and post shit like this to mess with him.

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I'm eyeing this Para Ordnance LTC in 9mm. I know Para is long dead, but it's just like any other 1911 with 1911 parts, right? I don't see anything wrong with it except for the plastic trigger and the proprietary extractor that would be hard to replace if it conks out.

People on /k/ laughed when I said the trials were a sham and the rifle would be bought but never actually adopted.

The ammo is too expensive, they were always going to use the training ammo for combat operations, troops couldn't handle the recoil.

The length and weight of the rifle make it unsuitable for auxiliaries, which 8 out of 10 US troops are, truck drivers were never going to lug this thing around.

The cost was extreme, something like fifty times more than an AR, of which the US already makes millions. There was nothing wrong with the m4a1, or any of its modernised versions.

The new scopes which were a core part of the SPEAR promise were vapour ware. Nobody had the capacity to manufacture them outside of China, they apparently cost more than the rifle itself.

This is another classic case of Russia/China making some paper tiger project, in this case the upgraded Russian V body armour, and US corporates conning the government into spending billions on a project to defeat the non-existent threat. The Russians can't even afford AR500, fucks sake.

Someone tell me, type out the numbers. How much did the program cost, and how many homeless veterans are there in the US right now? Come on. Tell the truth.

>>64913559
That's corporate speak for "were giving it to some special forces so everyone gets their promotional photos, least anyone infer the troops are refusing to give up their old rifles"

>>64917019
Just pretend it's an AR-10

>>64924642
>People on /k/ laughed when I said the trials were a sham and the rifle would be bought but never actually adopted.
Anon, stop seeking attention. Most Americans haet the rifle, except for the ones getting kickbacks for forcing the military to adopt it. BTW, you are already wrong because the US Army officially adopted it.
>vapour ware.
Non-American spotted.
>Nobody had the capacity to manufacture them outside of China
Bullshit.
>This is another classic case of Russia/China making some paper tiger project, in this case the upgraded Russian V body armour, and US corporates conning the government into spending billions on a project to defeat the non-existent threat. The Russians can't even afford AR500, fucks sake.
You are correct on this point.

>>64925447
hate**

FML