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>Venezuela gets their dictator nabbed
>Iran gets bombarded multiple times to absurd degrees
>Chinese and Russian AA cannot achieve a single shootdown in any of these
>stealth craft wasn’t even able to be detected
Wasn’t the mighty S300/400 going to make all stealth obsolete? What happened?
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>>64914589
Given that patriot can't even shoot down Iranian ballistic missiles, it turns out AA was always an expensive meme, and that volume of fire was the only way to guarentee safety or success.
If you dont invest in obscene amounts of local AA production, no amount of buying small amounts will ready you for even small amounts of ordinance from another power.
Dubai, UAE and Israel being hit in major population centers despite such a large flat desert that should make detection easy shows this.
I mean some people here knew that anyway and I respect them for teaching me over the years. But still.
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>>64914726
Bit of a different issue though, isn't it?
The slavaboos used to never shut up about how the S-300/400 could shoot down stealth aircraft and Tomahawks and shit (repeatedly bringing up muh F-117) while mocking the US for spending money on a "useless gimmick" and meanwhile we've seen western kit freely sodomizing Russian and Chicom AD several times over the last few years.
>it turns out AA was always an expensive meme, and that volume of fire was the only way to guarentee safety or success.
We're also not sure of a few things, namely what the exact systems were and who was operating them. A patriot with PAC-2s and an older radar operated by locals is one thing and THAAD or GBI whiffing is a whole other kettle of fish.
>inb4 cope
The details are worth knowing.
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>>64914589
Every single one of them lacked National, Cultural and Military Unity.
These niggers spent every year since 1953 playing games and North Korea just kept making guns for damn near a centruy.
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>>64914756
I mean what even is the point of having men in castles with bows when your enemy can just pillage your lands and take each isolated castle alone one by one. Iran just doesn't has enough of a reactionary defensive force due to years of military degredation, a change in military dogma (mass drones) that currently overwhelm all current modern day defensive systems.
You need offensive capabilities or you are ripe for your ground units to be picked off by overwhelming force one by one like what has been happening inside Iran/Syria for 15 years.
What you are seeing is the collapse of the Russian empire that cannot supply its dependant vassals with viable defensive weapons in volume, and a China that doesn't actually give a shit about the region anymore as it's transitioning away from external sourced fossil fuels, nothing more.
You can sodomise any anti air system if you know where it is btw, you just need enough distractions, decoys and bombs, or even stealth/space intel harvesting for radar patterns, and you can kill every single system on the planet including western ones.
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>>64914675
They shot down a drone?! How will America ever recover?
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>>64916313
How will Israel ever recover?
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>>64914756
>F-117
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>>64914639
Cope chink.
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>>64914994
Pakistan and India both failed to field anything close to a simultaneous strike comparable to the US. Even the chinks would fail to pull that off without massive telegraphing the build up beforehand. We can also see Patriot batteries miss some missiles coming in, so if we acknowledge all systems have a pm of less than 1.0 then when you take an SSGN and several burkes/ticos launching a hundred TACM’s while F-35’s and Growlers are hunting SAM’s and playing AWACS for any other strike packages ON TOP of god knows what sort of spooky ISR assets are available in the area, the only result is going to be a turbofucking. The chinkshill will go on about IADS and HALE drones and blah blah blah but the overpowering the USAF/USN brings is multiplied by ISR SIGINT/ELINT to do amazing things.
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>>64914790
Based and Juche pilled.
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>>64916713
No they build coal plants because it's cheap to do so, they have built a ton of excess capacity the last few years in all forms and sectors of energy to keep up withbAI demand, they will be fine with the current collapse of hormuz.
Their electricty capacity scaling is obscene the last few years, they are desperately trying to get ahead of the population 1 child collapse curve.
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>>64914589
Honestly are they even deployed? So far images have been released of like, an F4, an F5 and what appears to be 2 SU-22's destroyed but it's unclear if these even airworthy or decoys. It's not like Iran doesn't have vast underground bases. Not much footage of launchers being hit and plenty of missiles still falling so you might not need much AA for what they are trying to do, just like the Houthis because these launchers are so hard to find and hit.
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>>64916003
You forgot how on /pol/ there is now constant AI "news" threads of people posting texts claiming that any where from 200-1000 US soldiers died, and that the USS Abraham Lincoln has sunk/not sunk but damaged. Now they are going with an AI image of text claiming to be from Wapo saying that the US is running out of munitions
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>>64914726
These BRICS bootlickers have lost everything they can be proud of. They’re lying not to convince anyone they know they can’t do that but to shit up the thread. Resign yourself to your gay rape metaphors and despair at the destruction of another third world country
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>>64914589
NO REFUNDS
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Are the single digit troop losses the US has suffered going to be f117 Arab edition?
>We have been preparing 50 years for this! Allah is with us!
>take tremendous losses in record time, leaders die on the first day
>we killed 6 Americans! We have won! Allah be praised!
This is going to happen
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>>64922961
Not justifying the performance as such, but if I knew I was fighting the people that literally invented SEAD and are miles ahead in designing weapons that can do it, I'd be pretty fucking scared of the prospect of actually lighting up my search radar. Doubly so if I know they have Growlers and a pile of VLO multiroles that mean even if there is something I probably won't see it anyway.
The psychological effect of what they're up against is probably a factor as much as the raw technical superiority.
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>>64923052
Can't argue with this. Offence is the best defence and all that.
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>>64914756
here we had several parliamentary parties even argue that buying any fighters is useless because S400 will shoot them down 500 km away as soon as they take off. We bought F-35 and you have no idea how happy I am to see them fuck russian and chink air defences left right and sideways lmao t. Binland
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>>64923827
Remove Iran's ability to supply anything more annoying then AKs and RPGs to people who want to fuck with the West. If the Iranian people want to overthrow their government and join the civilized world again, that's great, but we'll settle for turning them into Afghanistan 2.0 if they don't
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>>64919465
>doesn't post proof
is this the new fat basement dwelling armchair general cope?
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>>64914589
S-300 and S-400 are crap; Russian military chief , like fleet amiral Vladimir Vyssotky, chief of staff Nikolai Makarov, and Colonel-general Vladimir Chirkin, clearly warned putin that the S-300 and S-400 were mid at best and nearly couldn't strike anything and that the best defense was to launch offensive, and that AD and SAM should in no way be the core of the defensive strategy but p*tin, this moron, didn't listen.
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>>64916003
Well when the 4 green berets there claimed the west has fallen amd now is the time of the third worlder. A 250-1 kdr is an absolute victory for those guys. Fuck thinking of it the us has a postive kdr of personnel to iranian ship ratio now
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>>64914630
Venezuela publicly paraded them around
https://www.tercerainformacion.es/articulo/internacional/26/03/2019/el -ejercito-venezolano-despliega-misi les-s-300-en-caracas/
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>>64920757
>These BRICS bootlickers have lost everything they can be proud of. They’re lying not to convince anyone they know they can’t do that but to shit up the thread. Resign yourself to your gay rape metaphors and despair at the destruction of another third world country
this
"Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Monday that membership in BRICS does not require countries to provide military assistance to one another.
“Membership in BRICS does not imply an obligation to provide mutual assistance during military aggression,” Peskov told reporters at his daily briefing, according to EFE and Agerpres."