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I like the khopesh. It looks like some shit you'd see in fantasy fiction.

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>>64915100
Some day I probably will spend a silly amount on this thing or one like it.
Dunno why, just like daos.

>>64915100
>including false edge
That's a real harsh requirement anon. Like,
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seem to already fail it.

>>64915423
Not really. Those swords have a grind near the tip presumably for thrust performance. Hardly a traditional false edge that would run a large portion of the blade.

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Will you accept a kriegsmesser?

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>>64915540
These specifically are italian models.

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>>64915544
This one was found in Greece.

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>>64915550
Then Spain. Can't leave out Spain.

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Thraces

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Celts

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>>64915113
The kopesh is more like a skeletonized axe, rather than an actual sword.

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>>64915586
The likely origin of the weapon is a stick with flint blades glued to one side, so it would be more correct to group it with other sword clubs, really.

Axes have already been their own, very specific thing even before the Kopesh emerged.

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>>64915589
It's kinda funny to think that some guy from Northern Europe traveled far enough to reach the Egyptian sphere of influence.

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>>64915624
In any case, eventually the Great Reset happened and single-edged sword became straight for a while. The Germanics apparently liked them straight even before that.

>>64915617
What do you mean? Egyptian elements found in scandinavian blades, or the other way around?
That sound interesting, and unexpected

Kinda how all the classical statue depictions of Buddha in the far east evolved with elements from ancient greek sculpting traditions

>>64915550
Always a big fan of the kopis

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There'S that one boat-shaped single-edged sword that was found in Scandinavia, which is pretty much unique, unless you assume that somebody involved in its production had seen Egyptian examples. Hittitie and other near eastern influences are a dime dozen, especially with them having a trade outpost on the Atlantic coast of Spain and maintaining exchange with South Britain from there, but Egyptians didn't seem to travel that far.

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>>64915586
People who parrot this meme so not grasp the fundamental differences between axes and swords.

>>64916121
Pretty cool, I can imagine that even if the tradesmen themselves didn't move that far, their products might have

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I know it's just a bayonet; but I really want one

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>>64916139
The cross-sections of bronze Kopesh are pretty extreme, lending credence to the idea that they're a type of sword club re-cast in bronze.

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What's a false edge?

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>>64915586
Well, I've seen things like this... but the problem is that's not how the early khopesh looked (we're a few centuries post that), and as far as I can tell even the ancestors of that axe type don't really predate the khopesh by any real margin either (while the fully developed epsilon axe there is from long after the early khopesh). Now I've seen some books on it all do suggest the axe as a starting point for the khopesh, so it isn't just some DnD-lore getting repeated ad nauseam I guess, but so far I don't think any of them have really proven the connection beyond "well it sorta looks like an axe so that's what it must have come from", which IMO isn't really good enough.

>>64915609
>The likely origin of the weapon is a stick with flint blades glued to one side
Any good place to read up on that? The sources I've found in my recent digging around haven't had that much to say about how it all began.

>>64915695
The bronze age saw very far-flung trade networks, and given the scarcity of tin resources they could make use of there wouldn't have been much of a bronze age without it. We see a lot more bronze showing up here in Scandinavia about the same time we start seeing a lot of Baltic amber show up in around Greece, and once we're gotten that far getting to Egypt is relatively trivial. Not that the same person was liekly to go all the way on a regular basis, but we have enough contact for the odd bit of influence to make it across.

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By contrast, here's a earlier khopesh. Perhaps not really any less axe-like than the more well known "main" khopesh style, but to the best of my (limited) knowledge they don't look much like any battleaxe in use around then.

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And for something quite different, my latest sword purchase. A wakizashi from the mid Muromachi period, Sue Tegai school (so liekly the second half of the 15th century), NBTHK hozon papers. Nothing really was said about the koshirae, so presumably nothing of note, my uneducated guess being late Edo to late Showa.

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>>64916217
When you have a small sharpened section along the back of a mostly single-edged sword. Alternatively when you hold a fully double-edged sword the edge that's "forward" is called the true edge and the edge that's pointing back towards you if you just hold the sword upright in front of you is the false edge.

>>64915526
KM disagress with you so your opinion is invalid.
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>>64916248
Hans Wolfgang Müller, Der Waffenfunde von Balat-Sichem und Die Sichelschwerter

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>>64916279
Here's one probably meant to be studded with flint.

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>>64916279
Neat, I actually got that book in the mail a few days ago. Now I don't really read German, so it's going to take a while to get through, but now I have even more reason to believe it'll be worth the effort.

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>>64916301
I found my copy online, but I can't reconstruct where.

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The Germs knew what they liked fairly early on, it seems.

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>>64915100
But your saber has a false edge?

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>>64916400
The whole class of Stortas/Messers that were in fashion before sabers re-entered the euro arsenal via the Hungarians are interesting as well.

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>>64916546

Everyone is afraid to like katanas now.

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>>64916558
Nobody is stopping you from spamming Katana memes.

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>>64916558
Katana, you say?

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the LK Chen chopper calls to me

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>>64916256
Looks like a bit of a ledge with the itto meeting the kashira.

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Really want to buy the Balar kreigsmesser sometime soon. It reminds me so much of the KOTOR vibrosword and I want to do some Exile larping.

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>>64916822
All I'm seeing there is a bunch of tachi...

>>64916766
That's probably because it isn't photographed dead on from the side, so the ito rising up into the know affects things a bit.

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>>64916915
>All I'm seeing there is a bunch of tachi...
Warabibeto are not tachi.

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>>64917854
Nagayama (The Connoisseur's Book of Japanese Swords) calls it "warabite no tachi". And if you want to make the point that they're not very similar to what people usually think of when they hear "tachi", well, they don't really match the standard katana either.

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Luv me katana. Would grab for SHTF

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>>64915100
>no false edge
>immediately posts swords with false edge
fuck you OP

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>>64917896
>Nagayama (The Connoisseur's Book of Japanese Swords) calls it "warabite no tachi".
He's likely the only one to call it that because neither Shimomukai nor Nobuhiko refer to it that way.

>And if you want to make the point that they're not very similar to what people usually think of when they hear "tachi", well, they don't really match the standard katana either.
A tachi is a specific type of nihonto that doesn't show up until Heian period. Warabiteto were used by the Emishi people and date to the 7th century. The term is a neologism from the 19th century after their excavation. We don't know what they were called historically.

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>>64915100
I'm a Dha kind of guy.

>>64915109
personally i prefer when it curves the other way

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>>64915155
Daos are cool swords.

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Does a long seax replica count?

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>>64915100
I want a nagamaki, but nobody makes a good reproduction. The only good ones are expensive centuries-old antiques.

Do machetes count as knives, or are they sufficiently sword-like?