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rockets intercepted almost as soon as they are launched
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another angle
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>>64918082
And here's Israel trying to intercept one cheap Iranian toy with 3 ultra expensive missiles and failing.
I don't know if this is incompetence or intentional failure.
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>>64918082
>you have lived to see climb phase directed energy interception be used in combat
What a world.
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>>64918093
Jewish flashlights are stopping Lebanese firecrackers?
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>>64918092
>comparing apples to oranges
Why are midwits like this?
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>>64918092
that's not from israel
also why are you so upset
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>>64918092
noice
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>>64918092
Why are there bits falling off it?
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any source?
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>>64918082
i don't see any laser, and i don't know how you expect to see one there since the laser is in the infrared spectrum
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>>64918129
https://x.com/kann_news/status/2028259192499216805/
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>>64918147
you see the effect on target
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>>64918150
wait you think the ironbeam can take a missil out in just 2 or 3 seconds after launch? please..
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wouldnt any laser of this strength immediately and permanently blind anyone in the vicinity?
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>>64918157
that's exactly what it's doing on the video
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>>64918157
Uh, oh. Gonna have a brown faggot meltie? Go for it, your seethe feeds me, retard.
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>>64918166
not its not retard, the missiles arent even exploding, they look like they're loosing propelant, they're defective
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Based I can't wait until lasers make missiles,drones and rockets obsolete and big guns and rail guns prevail
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>>64918092
what da Patriot doin
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>>64918157
When you're dealing with high output lasers at close enough ranges?
>Yeah
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>>64918092

Thats not Israel, its from an US base in Bahrain, and they are launching Patriot Pac-3s. On the original video you can hear american soldiers talking like zoomers.
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>>64918224
you're retarded
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Those are just defective rockets made of shit
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>>64918195
argument from incredulity
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>>64918229
The laser is hot enough to trigger the detonator. It's not disentrigrating it mid air retard.
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>>64918229
>Heats rocket casing
>Propellant blows the fuck out of weakened case wall
>Drop in pressure causes it to stop burning as rapidly
Too many words for a thirdie already
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>>64918157
>wait you think the ironbeam can take a missil out in just 2 or 3 seconds after launch?
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>>64918084
I'm calling bullshit, why does the solid rocket fuel just stop burning? It would burn through a hole in the side and burn longer than normal due to reduce chamber pressure reducing burn-rate.
t. rocket building autist
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>>64918157
Literally over decade ago, a 10kW laser was popping these Qassam-like targets in seconds and Iron Beam is 100kW.
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>>64918301
You people seem to think the earth is flat or something. Clearly you've never watched Muv-Luv. Lasers need a direct line of sight to the target. Rockets that have just launched are not in LOS to the laser. Jesus Christ...
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>>64918157
That's probably the easiest time to take out a missile.
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>>64918416
What if you put the laser on an airplane >>64918093
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>>64918234
Even retarded Hamas goons can strap together rockets that will make it into Israeli airspace without blowing up on their own. An entire battery of them going off like this seems like a lot more than a mere defect.
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>>64918082
>>64918084

I'm calling BS. Where is that laser relative to the launch site that it has LOS of those rockets before they've even reached 1000ft AGL? Unless it's aircraft based? There's no way the launch position is that close to the target. This looks like cheap mudslime rockets dudding out.
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>>64918457
I can't say I'm familiar with the terrain around the Lebanese border, but just plonking a laser battery atop a hill would give it that much of an improvement in LOS.
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It was widely deployed in December of last year. Not sure why this is such a freakout moment for the browntards here. Maybe mad that their retard rockets won't work and won't even be a financial drain anymore?

Yea. Just keep coping and living in your fantasy land, as is BRICS tradition.
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>>64918465
Fairly mountainous. Some peaks are close to 2000m above the surrounding terrain.
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>>64918419
I concede that it would solve the LOS problem, but counter that no such laser plane exists.
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>>64918491
maybe they just didn't tell you about it
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>>64918498
Yeppers.
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Fucking bullshit spawn camping Jews!
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>>64918491
The Israelis actually have tested an airborne laser interception system that basically points the lens out the side of an off-the-shelf light aircraft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3tm9m1fjHU
This video's from 2021. I believe it is a mere testbed, but it does show that the IDF has a vested interest in the concept.
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>>64918208
I'm so excited for technology to reach a point where ballistics are just prohibitively expensive to make because of how much bullshit you will need to do to stop a 10 dollar directed-energy charge from ruining your 3 million dollar cuck missile. The potential downside is that as defense improves, offensive directed-energy might become a thing, which would be pretty lame. Though I think that's pretty difficult because of how much actual energy you need. The Iron Beam M version is much weaker simply because it doesn't have access to a true power grid.

I would imagine this would maybe be mitigated by solar-panel charged lasers in space, don't know though. Anyways. RETVRN to hot LEAD screaching through the battlefield from huge fuck off railguns please.
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>>64918524
Lasers can only do so much against shells covered in ablative materials. I don't think ballistics will ever go away.
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>>64918538
People once made that claim about what we're seeing right now.
>oh they're going too fast the math is impossible
>oh they spin the heat wouldn't be enough in time
>oh the lasers are too stationary and you'd need thousands to cover an effective area
Technology will improve and it is in favor of defense here, because economics will come into play. Why sink billions into a ballistic program when a satellite orbiting miles above you is ready to blast it to hell for the low low price of $0.00 USD?
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>>64918574
>a satellite
>low low price of $0.00 USD
Those things aren't free, you know.
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>>64918578
The charge is free. The satellite is an upfront cost and ultimately will probably about as costly as your average weather satellite. Maybe even a Starlink node, depending on how many get made. This has been the future of war since rocketry was invented.
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>>64918082
could also just be a batch of shitty motors popping themselves
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>>64918465
This is why they took Golan. I've heard it described as an "artillery commander's wet dream." That was relative to Israeli targets instead of Lebanese ones, but still. A bit plateau is a big plateau.
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Imagine believing a missile can be detected, tracked, locked, and fired upon basically instantly and Israel just so happened to have a laser system exactly where it would need to be to do so with the power output available.

No, my brown friend it's more likely the missiles were all garbage.
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>>64918779
They're about to take a fuck ton more of it too. Hezb launched some shitty rockets, Israel shot them down, so now all of Lebanon will suffer. Mass evacuation notices sent out across southern Lebanon just now. Guess we know why the 100,000 reservists were called up.
>pic rel
Everything up to and including Tyre plus the regions on the northwest side of Israel are getting invaded.
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>>64918818
Didn't their mothers teach them to finish chewing their Gaza before taking another bite?
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>>64918082
its not iron beam dumbass its just duds
i bet they blew up 200m away from this
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>>64918822
Gaza is over. It's been over for a year. There is nothing left of Hamas but dipshit random gangs with leftover dogshit they hid in tunnels. Anyone telling you otherwise is lying.
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>>64918822
What's Gaza going to do? If they get froggy Israel can just starve them to death, and nobody else will even notice with everything else that's happening.
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>>64918092
>seething arab posts arab AD failing in Bahrain
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For anyone curious, this is how big the evacuation zone is, and it's already started. Tanks and raids already moving in. They were literally just waiting for the first blip of a drone or rocket to hit the go button, lol. Crazy. And the retarded Hezb leadership actually owned up to it too, proudly claimed it was them. What a retarded group of people. No survival skills.
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>>64918092
This was in Bahrain
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>>64918879
Goddamn facts, ruining another narrative. Retards just can't catch a break!
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>>64918861
seen this episode of Sand Wars already, it's a re-run. Israel must be playing it again since a lot of hezbollah were in the hospital with hand injuries and missed the original airing.
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>>64918902
kek
Good one. Anyways, yea it's over for them for real this time. This is looking increasingly like a complete and total collapse of Iran and its proxies. What the fucking leads to, who knows. Gulf states, Syria, and Israel very likely to come out as the winners. Lebanon, Yemen, the proxies, and of course Iran are in some seriously dire straits. I won't shed a tear for their collapse. Well, Lebanon I will. They had a chance to not be retarded and kick out Hezb, but I guess those muzdog genes were too strong. Oh well!
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>>64918195
>multiple rockets all launched at the same time are failing at the exact same frame

Hey retard, rockets like that don't explode when they're damaged. They crash land and then start fires mostly caused by the fuel. They also do this when they fail, yes, except you are looking at multiple launches where all of the rockets that are launched all fail at the exact same time.
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>>64918824
The video would just show 200m duds.

Those don't look like duds. Duds don't happen in salvos like that.
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I really want this to be ironbeam because I find it to be so fucking cool, but honestly that just looks like your average launch of homemade sandnigger rockets with the engine running out of propelant after the initial boost.
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>>64918082
>rockets are exploding as soon as they are getting launched from Lebanon's ground
>it's Israeli lasers bro

Are Israeli lasers installed in the same town block as Lebanon's launchers, in Lebanon?
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>>64918861
no rockets actually reached israel they all fell inside lebanon but this is still a declaration of war
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>>64918950
they do
you think these bums have top tier MIC manufacturing with tests and certifications? they probably got the rocket fuel wet so the rocket motor cuts out a second into the flight
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>>64918157
>personal incredulity fallacy
seethe and cope lmao

>>64918092
>here's Israel
turdies always lie
proven yet again
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>>64918973
I keep waiting for some Geoguessr nerd to figure out exactly where this is and whether it's within LOS of the Israeli border. Because if it turns out that it is I will instantly become a believer in this and in Jewish Space Lasers.
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>>64918861
The PoG knows that their funding is about to dry up; even if the mullahs somehow survive the next few weeks, they'll be lucky to have enough cash left to fund half the IRGC, much less their terrorist clients. Kharg Island reportedly got hit, and that means no more oil exports for a while.
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>>64918811
This. It would take exactly as much effort to destroy both the launchers and the missile stockpile before they even left the ground. But it seems that goyim will jump at every opportunity to polish jewish boots.
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>>64919264
>It would take exactly as much effort to destroy both the launchers and the missile stockpile before they even left the ground
Yes, but that would be shooting first. No harm in letting Hezbollah tie their own noose (again).
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>>64918861
>bait the IDF out of AA protections
>irgc bomb the place as the IDF is moving in Lebanon
I smell a trap
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>>64919264
lol your cope is delicious
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>>64919475
I smell roasted sandniggers.
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>>64919264
>replied without seeing the obvious insult
lol
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>>64919550
they're in the vatnik smoker cope stage, same ol playbook
actually makes sense from a locus of control perspective
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>>64918980
this. abdul fucked up the rocket fuel mixture for this batch
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>>64918370
The other issue is Iron Beam has a range of ~10km. Did Israel position one right next to the launch site?
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>>64919635
people forget that gaza killed ~20 gazans with their rockets for every israeli that they killed like 1/5 of their rockets landed on their own the situation in lebanon is probably the same
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>>64919707
>1/5 of their rockets landed on their own
and that's a fucking Amnesty International estimate, real estimate might be higher
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>>64919538
Not opposing this outcome but this random chimp out is too retarded even for mudslime.
Just a hunch.
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>>64919725
This event was so important. Everyone instantly believed that Israel had bombed 200 people. It made Israel lose the infowar, which effectively caused them to stop bothering with appeasing the international community at all. Then the evidence showing it was Hamas came out, which embarrassed a lot of media outlets so much that they began to do their diligence or make sure to mention that future claims cannot be verified.
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>>64919901
>this random chimp out is too retarded even for mudslime
imagine if the IRA supreme council was entirely wiped out in one airstrike. what do you think all the street-level cells would do? they'd just go chimp out and bomb and shoot up every Proddy / loyalist target they could find
that's why Iranian assets have bombed ten Sunni countries to date
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>>64918165
Not if its not pointed directly at them?
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>>64918150

No I think it's mainly the launcher that has a malfunction, a laser that can detect a missile launched hundreds of kilometers away without knowing the launcher's position beforehand is clearly science fiction, otherwise the iron dome wouldn't be even more ineffective this time than it was a year ago
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>>64920024
Would be impossible simply because of the angle .The laser would have to be in space.
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>>64920024
>hundreds of kilometers away
How big do you think Lebanon is? How big do you think Israel is? For that matter, what kind of range do you think those rockets were supposed to have?
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>>64920033

In this case even a few kilometers away, you don't even have equipment capable of intercepting FFPV drones at 20 meters
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>>64918491
>but counter that no such laser plane exists.
See WebM. They've even tested them on Apaches.
https://www.twz.com/11840/laser-apache-has-successfully-fried-targets-on-white-sands-missile-range
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>>64920040
NAYRT but unless I misread the map, the Israeli-Lebanon border is only 60km in total
Iron Beam supposedly has a range of 10km
it seems they can cover the border quite easily, if Hezbollah is silly / desperate enough to launch from that close
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>>64920044
Seems like it would be too slow to blow up missiles. I really doubt those puddle jumpers would be flying in such a hot airspace, too.
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>>64918370
because the warhead exploded so it was no longer a solid chunk of fuel but a powder which would either ignite immediately or fail to ignite
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>>64918918
>They had a chance to not be retarded and kick out Hezb, but I guess those muzdog genes were too strong
I think it's more like Hezbollah holding the whole country hostage by threatening to start another civil war if they don't get their way.
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>>64918082
isnt this a british starstreak?
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>>64918082
>LOOK HOW ADVANCED WE ARE, WE JUST DONT USE IT IN TELAVIV BECAUSE AHM UHM... WE DONT WANT TO
mulatto propaganda might be the dumbest propaganda known to mankind
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>>64920924
Jews are sandniggers and sandniggers are bad at war.
Israel lost against Heubollah again and again simply because both sides are sandniggers.
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>>64920945
it's shorad
what do you expect it to do in tel aviv
dump enough energy into a reentry vehicle that's literally designed to survive atmospheric reentry heating?
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>>64920044
They could not have picked a better aircraft
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>>64920945
You can see them glow from the reentry heat with your naked eyes. Just a thought, maybe they're significantly more hardened against heat than some short range rocket.
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>>64920953
Fantasy land. Hezb got its shit pushed in and is currently being sent to the gallows. "Lost." LOL.
>>64920924
They had a full year to call their bluff and do something. They didn't. This wasn't Hezb of 2021, it was Hezb of 2025. Weakened, fucked up, and with and extremely powerful regional neighbor salivating at thought of melting their flesh. And with Syria next door, there was no chance they survived whatever pathetic civil war the conjured up. Lebanese government leaders and by extension people chose to continue this streak of absolute mental retardation. Only have themselves to blame.
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>>64918082
The thing I hate most about Israel is their sheer lack of creativity in naming weapons. It's literally a weaponized ray of light and they best name they could come up for it was "iron beam".
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>>64918082
Or are those cruise missiles, shedding some kind of launch charge?
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>>64918092
the missile was sparking, so it was hit. probably went off course by a km, so target is fine.
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>>64921366
israeli systems have different names in hebrew
iron beam is called light shield in hebrew
trophy is called rain coat
david's sling used to be called magic wand/stick in hebrew (now it's david sling)
each spike variant has a different name in hebrew, the nlos one is tamuz (a month in the hebrew calendar) and the ER one is gil (means joy)
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>>64919935
I wish that were true, but I still see people and outlets claiming Israel did it all the time, and major outlets STILL publish Hamas's casual estimates at face value despite how clearly that incident proved they're completely full of shit right at the beginning of the war.
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>>64918084
I don't get it. If you all claim that's a laser kill, are you saying the rockets were destroyed by a laser that's right next to the rocket launchers? What?
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>>64921397
That just makes it worse. The Hebrew names are pretty cool, why do the English marketing names have to be so bland?
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OP is retarded and gay as usual. I don't know exactly what we are watching, but it sure as hell isn't an interception of any kind. 1st stage burnouts probably.
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>>64918082
Would be cool if someone had a camera that could see those wavelengths
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>>64921685
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/h13axdmfwx
and >>64918148
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>>64921428
>I still see people and outlets claiming Israel did it all the time, and major outlets STILL publish Hamas's casual estimates at face value
and that's why you know those people and outlets are not operating in good faith
extrapolate from there to everything else they say about the other shit they politically disagree with
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>>64920945
>a rocket is the same as a ballistic missile
This is honestly the iron beam use case. park it outside the terrorist infested villiage where they hide rockets in peoples attics and quickly assemble a launch before fleeing and shut it down
this saves the bad PR of having to blow up all those houses ahead of time
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>>64918370
same reason you get big boom when you shoot bullet out of a gun but little pssh if you pour the powder on a plate and ignite it
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>>64918092
Its not their taxes dollars paying for.
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>>64918082
Peak
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>>64918082
>It is capable of 100kW of power focused on the diameter of a coin at a distance of 10 km (6.2 mi).
I don't know much about physics and shit, but considering most lasers I've seen are measured in milliwatts, that's a strong fucking laser holy shit
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>>64918811
>Imagine believing a missile can be detected, tracked, locked, and fired upon basically instantly and Israel just so happened to have a laser system exactly where it would need to be to do so with the power output available.

The Israelis have a massive tech complex between tel aviv and haifa that is full of secular autists on a higher level than most of the world, they have managed to turn analog tech like radars into very advanced things making even us tech seem old.

The idea that they can't build a version of the iron beam with "Imagine believing a missile can be detected, tracked, locked, and fired upon basically instantly and Israel just so happened to have a laser system exactly where it would need " is retarded it's not that hard you would need to put it in a moving vehicle, having a small radar like those artillery detection radars they gave finland and some software that has advanced maps that can be set up to cover a specific area.

It's very possible yes.
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>>64918082
Lockheed Martin was targeting megawatt lasers by 2026
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2023/09/missile-defense-agency-sees-megawatt-anti-icbm-lasers-by-2026.html
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>>64921968
It wasn't really possible outside of the lab until the last 5-10 years. Getting stuff engineered and packaged into a mass-produced, deployable system has taken time. Of course, solid state laser cannons (which they all are today; chemical laser cannons came first but always had too many drawbacks for field use) were first seriously discussed back in the late '90s, with the expectation that they were only 5-10 years out, and like fusion reactors, they've *stayed* 5-10 years out until recently.
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>>64918457
>Where is that laser relative to the launch site

Space. Since Reagan.

>>64918574
Hypersonics are 70s tech at latest, and don't maneuver in the terminal phase-- the only issue is the plasma sheath, which may confer radar obstructing properties.
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>>64918093
Of course another weapon system canned by Obama same with the B53 nuclear bombs we used to have.
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>>64920044
>>64918093
We're so close I can taste it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjmU93_oE7E
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>>64918973
>Are Israeli lasers installed in the same town block as Lebanon's launchers, in Lebanon?
What part of Jewish Space Lasers do you not understand?
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>>64920299
>Seems like...
>I really doubt...
Thanks for your vibe bro
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>>64921362
>Lebanese government leaders and by extension people chose to continue this streak of absolute mental retardation
They just didn't want to provoke a civil war.
They are in fact raiding and disarming the cells they can find, right now.
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>>64921823
>This is honestly the iron beam use case. park it outside the terrorist infested villiage
It's not like they don't know where they're fired from.
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>>64924119
You're welcome. It's tiresome to see people confidently asserting this and that when they have no hard evidence. Lotta people on /k/ like that.
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>>64924107
the range is supposed to be around 10km
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>>64924178
>the range is supposed to be around 10km
It's obviously more than that for a space laser.
Do you not know the distance to space?
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>>64924357
>>64923206
>muh jewish space lasers
If it's in space why didn't they just take out the launcher before it fired?
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>>64924483
The heat of the rockets reveals the launcher. I dare that launcher to try launching another barrage.
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>>64924503
The heat of the laser cooks the goy
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>>64918082
wtf?
you can clearly see something flying towards the incoming rockets.

are they laser rockets?
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>>64924121
There would not have been a civil war. Syria is extremely hostile to them now, as is a majority of the country, and Israel would have fucking annihilated them with unlimited air support free of charge. All they had to do was not be retarded Lebanese morons and for once in their miserable lives take ownership of something. Couldn't even do that.
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this is stupid af, the lasers should be blue and russians or other villains could develop red lasers guns to enhance the kino
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>>64924656
Just be happy that they're not purple or pink
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>>64918470
thanks, I guess that this is the first conflict that Eitan's Light gets to see action. But it begs the question....

Can drone fuel melt Iron Beams?
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>>64918811
if the cameramen can see it it can be targeted
wether with radar or imagers
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ahem ahem
death to israel
thank you for reading my post
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>>64920299
>hot airspace
>thirdies scarcely capable of firing off a salvo of bottle rockets
Jej. Our only air losses are due to friendly fire. I’d feel safer over their airspace than our own.
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>our
you ain't shit negroe
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>>64918861
I feel this will be a disaster in many ways for both the lebanese and jews. I doubt the lebanese civilians will want to evacuate all that land out of fear the jews take it like the golan hills. For the jews, it might be another PR disaster when they don't need one.
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>>64923399
It was a pile of shit and it should have been canned sooner. The plane's intended purpose was farcical at best.
>"We'll put a nose mounted chemical laser on the front of an airliner and use that to shoot down ballistic missiles in the off chance we not only know where they are, but we're close enough to do it!"

Retarded. You already know where the things are going, it's always been a million times more intelligent to put laser AD on site so it can be powered locally and not have to account for things like the airframe vibrating everything to shit. It's not quite as retarded as the time we put a nuclear reactor in a bomber (I do not mean Project Pluto) but it's fairly close.
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>>64923399
A few B53s were kept for potential anti asteroid use

Im not even joking lol
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>>64919264
Again what was the difference between Epstein and Mohammed when it came to children? Oh right, Mohammed liked zutts too eh? Heh.
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>>64925497
in case you missed the videos yesterday
they evacuated
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Is this the first actual combat use of a laser/energy weapon?
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>>64927098
Israel claims it was used in 2025 in June, though it was the Iron Beam M version (mobile).
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>>64918082
modern war is so gay
ukraine is the only kino we have left
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>>64927098
It's the shitty SRBs burning out at different rates lol, it's not a laser blowing them up
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>>64924656
Sigma countries like mine prefer green laser guns and lightsabers

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