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Kuwait’s defense ministry says ‘several’ US military aircraft have crashed, all crews survived 03/02/26(Mon)09:29:47 No.64919807
Kuwait’s defense ministry says ‘several’ US military aircraft have crashed, all crews survived 03/02/26(Mon)09:29:47 No.64919807
Kuwait’s defense ministry says ‘several’ US military aircraft have crashed, all crews survived Anonymous 03/02/26(Mon)09:29:47 No.64919807 [Reply]▶
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Name the band.
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this is such a shitshow.
did Orangeman in Chief expect that this would happen?
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>>64919889
he was going for a repeat of the venezuelan circus - go in, get something that looks like a victory to your mouth breathing base back home, get out without achieving anything meaningful
the problem is that Iran doesn't have any particular reason to just stop shooting back
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Wtf is going on
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>>64919909
>a win
who said that, retard? Venezuela got fucked up, but just because you've now destabilized some banana republic more than it already was doesn't mean you've gained anything meaningful yourself. Kidnapping one dude is not regime change when his cronies simply remain in power and carry on as always
everything else - getting export rights for american companies, cutting off supply to Cuba - could've been accomplished either way without any direct action
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>>64919943
>everything else - getting export rights for american companies, cutting off supply to Cuba - could've been accomplished either way without any direct action
How exactly? The US cucked China out Venezuela when they had just visited it and posed with Maduro a few days before his capture, he clearly declared his alignment.
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>>64919889
>Bongs specifically damage their relationship with USA by saying 'no' to launching strikes from their territory
>Bongs get hit anyway
>Stasi Starmer has to go 'um OK you can but only for defence... we won't do anything'
lol lmao cuck
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>>64919906
Iranian defense system
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>>64919997
That's the automatic assumption, the video is just a bit odd and raises other possibilities.
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>>64920009
Two wingmen heading home from a bombing run. They fly into the engagement radius of a Kuwait SAM site. Its crew has been awake for 18 hours straight. An IFF tag is misread. An order to fire is given before attempts at deconfliction. The battery launches at both birds (assuming it's two).
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>>64919889
He thought Iran was like Iraq, Syria, Libya or Venezuela, where power laid upon one single man and the regime would collapse if they simply killed the political leadership and its potential successors. The IRGC is practically an independant entity, Iran is decentralized, and now they wonder how they can keep targeting everyone with missiles after killing the top leadership. That's monke-tier miscalculation. At least the US Air Force is not like the VKS.
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>>64919807
>TAMPA, Fla. – At 11:03 p.m. ET, March 1, three U.S. F-15E Strike Eagles flying in support of Operation Epic Fury went down over Kuwait due to an apparent friendly fire incident.
During active combat—that included attacks from Iranian aircraft, ballistic missiles, and drones — the U.S. Air Force fighter jets were mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses.
All six aircrew ejected safely, have been safely recovered, and are in stable condition. Kuwait has acknowledged this incident, and we are grateful for the efforts of the Kuwaiti defense forces and their support in this ongoing operation.
>The cause of the incident is under investigation. Additional information will be released as it becomes available.
https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/Press-Release-View/Articl e/4418568/three-us-f-15s-involved-i n-friendly-fire-incident-in-kuwait- pilots-safe/
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>>64920042
>He thought Iran was like Iraq, Syria, Libya or Venezuela, where power laid upon one single man and the regime would collapse if they simply killed the political leadership and its potential successors.
I'm actually astounded that there is someone on this earth who can look at the situation and come to that conclusion. This is the absolute fucking opposite of doing that. This is EXPLICITLY leveling the entire fucking state apparatus of Iran exactly BECAUSE the Maduro Option wasn't going to work on them.
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>>64919889
He expected to get away with a huge bombing campaign the same way he got away with a single target strike.
Israel and their friends in DC would have told him this was easy because they want the US dragged into a prolonged war with Iran.
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>>64920042
Being serious, I don't think it's a mistake on that level, but the way Trump and Heg have been conducting things it was only a matter of time that there would be some miscalculation, but I doubt it will be catastrophic, mainly due to the sheer effectiveness of US air force service members and their equipment, if the administration hadn't been so brazen in its treatment of US allies and had their help for this, it would go a lot smoother, remember when UK airforce helped downing shaheds going for Israel last time?
That kind of assistance would certainly have helped reduce the damage from the Iranian response.
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>>64920064
It's very simple, you bomb every person and every building associated with the government of Iran. Yes, it's going to take time, like we've been told to expect. Maybe the people will rise up and put together a new and less retarded government, or maybe they'll just stay in anarchy. Either case is acceptable.
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>>64920077
>Maybe the people will rise up and put together a new and less retarded government, or maybe they'll just stay in anarchy
The group best suited to take advantage of this and gain power are all those Taliban fighters that are bored with admin work and want to fight.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/taliban-bureaucrats-hate-working-onlin e-all-day-miss-the-days-of-jihad/
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Could B-2's get friendly-fired?
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>>64920193
I don't think you understand. Kuwait is a country. It's a location on the planet. It has its own air defenses that will always be there. Even if all of Europe was participating in Epic Fury, planes would still be flying over Kuwait.
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>>64920206
>SMO
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>>64919807
Reminder that Khamenei was the "Pope" of all Shia muslims...
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>>64920206
>who literally have been known to lie since the start of the SMO in order to boost morale of their people
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>>64920214
There would be far less strain and panic among the air defense crews if they knew that shaheds and cruise missiles were being shot down instead of flying straight into their sensitive infrastructure and of their allies, the US and Israel will have to divert aircraft for that or just deal with Arab quality ground AD.
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>>64920077
But you see, in the words of thirdies, vatniks and changs, bombing their leaders and officials does nothing since their regime and military apparatus can run purely on religious zeal and strong belief in the multi-polar world, obviously.
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>>64919807
>Friendly Fire
Suuuure
When B-2s are involved in "training accidents" we know who did it.
Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_-KltpE48s&list=RDr_-KltpE48s&start_r adio=1
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>>64920267
Because they didn't think that the US would be so stupid to kill the "Pope" of all Shia muslims in the region, which is the most likely reason of the recent "friendly-fire":>>64920224
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>>64920268
We don't expect them to surrender.
We expect them to die.
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>>64920268
Samefag. Iranian civilians don't like the regime. They're literally celebrating in the street, waiting on a go from the shah. US already killed the new leader of Iran again btw.
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>>64920123
>This is indirectly caused by the US ignoring its European allies that could have assisted providing air defense in the region and placing less strain on the less well trained gulf states militaries.
News update buddy, all that air defense has been sent to Ukraine. USA is 90% of NATO and the 10% that is Europe is wholly committed to Ukraine. Europeon NATO are just tiny minions that America keeps around for sycophancy and laffs.
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>>64920224
>Native population of Kuwait rising up.
Yeah I'm sure a bunch of obese oil wealth funded, no guns having neets will rise up against the government that has given them free money for their entire lives.
Shiites are chimping out elsewhere but they sure as hell won't in Kuwait. Bahrain is a much more likely candidate in the gulf, because they actually treat their shiites like shit.
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>>64920333
Patriot systems were ready to fire at the push of a button and they flew right over them, there would be zero time to gain speed and maneuver enough to evade and give them a chance to survive at the altitude they were, especially thinking when they believe your over friendly airspace and you have your IFF tags running(I hope they did).
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>>64920310
The RAF have shot a few drones down. Not really sure what people expected though, it's not like the US was sharing their plans with anyone other than Israel. Besides, you can't expect to abandon Ukraine as an entirely European concern, and openly shill for pro-russian parties, then expect Europe to jump in to another American desert war.
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>>64920375
Yep
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>>64920449
>dying for Israel?
You're asking why I am happy that the country that seized our embassy staff, is behind the Beirut Barracks bombing and supported insurgents in Iraq and has been fucking with us in the Straight of Hormuz for a generation is getting a civilizational reset?
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>>64920449
I'm upset about the American lives lost. I don't think they had to die and I pray for their families.
However Iran has made a habit of attacking US citizens and troops since their current regime's inception. I sure as hell don't want those fuckers getting nukes, considering their state motto is legitimately "death to america." If you think peacenik appeasement or anything short of total subordination to Islam would stop them, you're delusional
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>>64920449
Because every time in the last twenty years that you have said we should glass the middle east or asked what the fuck we're even doing there in the first place, it has been because of something incited or exacerbated by the Iranian government. Their time is long overdue.
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>>64920492
This still feels Russian or possibly Iranian
>>64920496
The tone of this post feels more Chinese to me
Could be the same person but my autism disagrees
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>>64920492
Cool. Iran still deserves to die, and I'm glad to see it happen.
>>64920496
Yeah, it's going to be 4 or 5 weeks, and then we'll see if they have the guts for it. If not, then bomb 'em again, why not.
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>>64920052
All those years of third worlders claiming we can't airstrike Iran because their Russian SAM systems will shoot down an F-35. Meanwhile in reality the only thing shooting our jets down are friendly Patriot (presumably) batteries lmao.
For real though, holy shit what a fuckup.
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>>64920534
This guy claims the American military used 150 THAAD interceptors in the first day alone of this war.
https://youtu.be/sYVE6gz3dN8?si=YlBqZpaX_7x1cLfq&t=354
At this rate, 4,500 THAAD interceptors would be used in a month.
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>>64920496
While I agree with you regarding regime change there's no such thing as "casualties mount on all sides" other than single digits from some servicemen being pelted by shaheds. This war is completely one sided with US and allies enjoying full air superiority over Iran.
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>>64920564
Iranian missiles are hitting US bases in the Gulf, and civilians in those Gulf countries, and military targets and civilians in Israel. The USA and Israel have air superiority over Iran, but unless they bomb all the tunnels containing the missiles and their launchers, Iran can still retaliate.
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>>64920357
American GOD SEAD
>Safely and immediately destroys and disables Chinesium A2/AD, illumination radars, and EW/ECM Suites
Chinese super duper Anti-"stealth" SAMs and complimentary systems
>Touts invincible and inescapable capability against western planes and electronic warfare attacks/jamming
>Does nothing
>See above
See how easy that is? Also, >poojeets doing anything correctly.
The big story there wasn't the jets getting shot down, it was dumb jeets still not having their planes and systems interlinked and able to coordinate between each other to get an accurate view of the battlespace. Pakistan just showing how a few AWACS airborne that can share radar information, illuminate targets, and communicate between all their platforms is invaluable to modern air combat. The jeet airforce being so compartmentalized and not being able to distinguish between even their own planes airborne, while they're forced to make split second decisions by themselves and what action to take is what fucked them up at the end. Having an AWACS(western made btw) lighting up and giving tracking information compared to jeets barely knowing their left from right and not being able to talk between airframes is going to get you fucked up when you have 100+ planes in the air going at it.
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>>64920561
That's of course assuming the Iranians will be able to maintain their launch rate. They only have so many missile launch systems on hand, and they're losing them constantly.
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>>64920573
dude they crushed the protests quicker than the us military could build up forces in the regions. fuck are you talking about? they'll be far weaker now with the people who did the repression being taken out
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>>64920593
What part of the last year has given you the impression that trump has any kind of long term plan? He just does things, there's no actual policy.
Trumps Ukraine peace plan was for them to surrender. When they said no, he had nothing. Most of the other war he supposedly ended have either restarted or are at risk of restarting because the core issues were never addressed, he just wanted the headline. The Venezuela operation, as impressive as it was, haven't actually achieved anything substantial. The entire Greenland situation. Irans nuke program was supposedly destroyed last year, but they are still using it as an excuse. With no clear successor, regime change is also dubious.
Trump is a pure ideas guy, however this time he doesn't have even vaguely competent people around him to turn those ideas into realistic plans.
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>>64920650
The funniest thing has been their chimp out of hitting about 10 to 15 other countries or their bases. Essentially removing any chance of someone wanting to help them. It's also really funny that they're trying to spin loss of central command and control as some kind of plan.
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>>64920668
To be fair, Iran wasn't exactly swimming in friends even before they did that. Sure Russia and china bought stuff from them out of convenience, but neither of them ever tried to help Iran in any meaningful way. If they had spend the $2T that went to their nuke program on virtually anything else, not only would there be fewer protests, but they might not even have to find new top officials every few months.
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>>64919997
100%. Kuwaits shit is outdated and doesn’t know what it’s shooting at. U.S. isn’t going to suppress an “ally” AD system. Poor F15Es was just trucking some missiles to their target and got shot in the back by a teammate. Kuwait are the fat kid in sweat pants during dodgeball hanging out in the back trying not to get hit and throwing dead ducks.
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>>64920719
>brownoid
Like clockwork
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>>64920396
>wasn't on board with exiling spics
>is on board spending money blowing up towelheads
Look faggot I think it's funny that Iran is getting cucked but lets not pretend this doesn't cost money and doesn't make kikes happy, two negatives do outweigh a positive.
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>>64920805
They literally bagged 3x F-15's so they're good at shooting shit down: >>64920052
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Seriously, why are Americans like this?
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>>64920449
That's as many Americans as died when Iran threw a tantrum and started bombing American bases last year. The difference is, after this operation Iran will no longer have the ability to throw a tantrum with ballistic missiles.
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>>64920853
every heard of a little something called desert storm? it was the greatest display of modern military power and yet...
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Uh oh, things might not be going as well as hoped
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>>64920204
I mean, the OG Argentinian plan was to wait for a milder British PM, capture the islands without bloodshed to force open negotiations, return all the captives and hope the UN intervened with a ceasefire or the like.
But as you all know Galtieri was a desperate idiot and chose to try and pull that off with little preparation and Margaret "Finish the Irish" Thatcher on the other side.
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>>64920986
With enough cash (not like Argentina is going to pay back their current debts before the heat death of the universe), letting the Brits keep their base and some economic concessions I bet the deal could potentially happen even today.
But that's not as politically profitable as yapping about how you are doing so much to recover the islands and insulting the UK (while making deals with Israel) on public TV when election season approaches while doing absolutely nothing useful.
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Post water salinity below 100 ppt.
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>>64920973
Why do leftists keep bringing up the files and this being a "distraction" from them when its Bill Clinton being deposed by congress and Trump is not incriminated in the files at all? I get they need something to act sanctimonious about, but shouldn't you NOT draw attention to the thing that splashes your side more than the other? Just feels like a very fucking stupid propaganda tactic.
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>>64920533
privately celebrate with that weird little dance that looks like he's jerking off two guys that he's always doing and publically spin it as a windfall from american oil exports shooting through the stratosphere.
>inb4 but Russia
it's not like he gives a shit about how that would screw Ukraine over by giving Russia a much needed lifeline.
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>>64921284
we'll build more big beautiful jets and the kuwaitis will pay for them
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>>64921294
The cope is that there's another mountain of Epstein files somewhere and that's the one that will finally nail Trump.
See >>64921304
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>>64921312
It's anyone's guess as to what's in the other 60% of the files
>If you did nothing wrong you have nothing to hide
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>>64919943
>Kidnapping one dude is not regime change when his cronies simply remain in power and carry on as always
Trump campaigned against Bush-style regime change, but he also campaigned on Obama being a pussy who made bad deals. So what I think he's doing is resorting more to hard power than Obama, but without the intent to totally change any particular regime, but to change the policies of those governments. Recalls Clinton in the 90s in a way. The plan in Venezuela is to stabilize things now, do an orderly non-kinetic transition later, elections in 2027 probably.
>>64920042
>The IRGC is practically an independant entity, Iran is decentralized, and now they wonder how they can keep targeting everyone with missiles after killing the top leadership.
The command and control structure of Iran's strategic missile forces are still operating, and they pre-programmed it into function a certain way, and they want to burn through our inteceptors. But the U.S. and Israel might have planned for weeks of bombing. Serbia 1999 was 78 days. We'll see what happens.
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>This is EXPLICITLY leveling the entire fucking state apparatus of Iran exactly BECAUSE the Maduro Option wasn't going to work on them.
I don't think they can destroy the IRGC from the air. Like, Trump said in his speech that they need to give up and join with oppositionists etc. which implies that their power apparatus would still exist in a new Iran. The fundamental issue is that the IRGC runs the Iranian economy. It's like the KGB in the Soviet Union which turned into the FSB. I think Trump wants Iran to scratch the "Islamic" part off the name "Islamic Republic of Iran" while not going full Dubya.
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>>64921304
Why didn't Biden destroy him while he could if the democrats had the files available to them for 4 years? they called Jan 6th worse than Pearl Harbor but didn't care enough to actually end his political career when they could? It is all very silly. Obviously Trump wanted to protect someone he likes though, but who? Bannon? Netanyahu?
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>>64921353
>why didnt they destroy evidence?
Try to keep up, boomer
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>>64921342
>The command and control structure of Iran's strategic missile forces are still operating, and they pre-programmed it into function a certain way, and they want to burn through our inteceptors. But the U.S. and Israel might have planned for weeks of bombing. Serbia 1999 was 78 days. We'll see what happens.
This is not true. They've already gone into local command mode, which is why we see random strikes against Oman and Iraq.
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>trump wants to protect
All the kikes, seriously he's a jew-lover. He knows that the its pretty obvious Epstein was one part of a larger Jew blackmailing scheme. Remember how all those televangelists got caught doing shit back in 2005. Well twenty years before that every single one of them got generous support from jewish organizations to start their radio and television programs. Jews don't support anybody unless they have dirt on them or they are an honest licker of heeb boots. The last thing they want is a popular voice screaming for their blood and there be zero dirt on him.
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>>64920042
I have kind of an opposite take. I think they knew this would happen and wanted it. They wanted a full-scale, long term war with Iran and knew NATO and Congress would never authorize it beforehand, so instead they set off an Iranian chimpout and now everybody's being drawn in and can't back out until it's done.
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>>64919970
>get hit
By a drone that caused no damage, we should have more assets there to defend the base but other than that this one is all you. This conflict is your clusterfuck this time.
>YOU EUROPOORS ARE SO POOR AND WEAK HAHA WE COULD TAKE GREENLAND
>Uhhh bros you don't wanna sit this one out do you? wouldn't want to be cucks would you?
So pathetic, things aren't going well and you're already asking us to help you out. I thought European militaries were weak?
This is not our fight, you lot should be able to do this all by your lonesome if you're so strong. Also don't forget your president slagged off our wardead whilst threatening to take Greenland. That retard Hegeseth has no idea what he's doing,
>uhh we're just going to bomb them bro, haha, peace through strength, haha
>yeah no troops on the ground
KEK
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>F-15 looked at F-15's 0 losses in aerial combat and said "bet"
Fuckin' A
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>>64921702
This still happens with well coordinated operations. Military comms are a game of telephone, and they get significantly longer when multiple nations are involved. All it takes is 1 person to not pass the message along in a timely manner for the chain to break down.
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>>64920885
It's generally not a smart idea to start blasting civilians in an allied country.
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>>64919889
He looked at protests, thought "hey if I kill this mofo they'll pour on the streets again and take the country", they indeed poured onto the streets... and predictably started getting shot by the military. You can't do a quick regime change a country with a strong military, because regardless of if it was loyal to the previous leader or not, the military will take power regardless.
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>>64921668
Lmao incredible how Kuwait managed to pass this on as a friendly fire mistake. Thrice.
Protip: it was not. They're not your allies. They hate you all the same. And if it's not on orders from the highers up, then it's the operators playing the ''oooops'' card.
And you're all falling for it.
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I'm almost sure this particurlar pic is fake, it doesn't correspond with any of the footage we have of the pilots meeting with the local civilians.