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>>64919807
Now where have I seen that before? Oh right, the air defense cuckold.
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Name the band.
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>>64919832
Mutual Capitulation
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>>64919832
Blue on Blue
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>Birds currently outperforming BRICS air defense tech
Wew
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>>64919856
Literally anything is outperforming anyone's air defense tech in this war.

AD isnt real.
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this is such a shitshow.
did Orangeman in Chief expect that this would happen?
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>>64919889
he was going for a repeat of the venezuelan circus - go in, get something that looks like a victory to your mouth breathing base back home, get out without achieving anything meaningful

the problem is that Iran doesn't have any particular reason to just stop shooting back
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Wtf is going on
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>>64919905
"crashed" into what exactly?
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>>64919900
>turds now believe Maduro's arrest was a win for turd world
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>>64919905
>same lefthand flat spin
>same descent angle
I'm starting to think that they picked up multiple pilots separately and didn't realize that it was a twin-seater.
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>>64919909
>a win
who said that, retard? Venezuela got fucked up, but just because you've now destabilized some banana republic more than it already was doesn't mean you've gained anything meaningful yourself. Kidnapping one dude is not regime change when his cronies simply remain in power and carry on as always

everything else - getting export rights for american companies, cutting off supply to Cuba - could've been accomplished either way without any direct action
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>>64919943
>everything else - getting export rights for american companies, cutting off supply to Cuba - could've been accomplished either way without any direct action
How exactly? The US cucked China out Venezuela when they had just visited it and posed with Maduro a few days before his capture, he clearly declared his alignment.
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This is literally the Leopard 2 cope all over again, where the US loses one or two aircrafts while Iran loses it's entire airforce/navy and senior leadership. God I hate war optics.
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>>64919889
>Bongs specifically damage their relationship with USA by saying 'no' to launching strikes from their territory
>Bongs get hit anyway
>Stasi Starmer has to go 'um OK you can but only for defence... we won't do anything'
lol lmao cuck
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>>64919943
>i-its not what I meant!
Cry more, brownie.
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>>64919906
Iranian defense system
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>>64919906
The air.
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If this actually happened, what are the odds it was friendly fire?
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>>64919965
It matters though. Trump and his cabinet is not very popular to say the least and it was a plain aggression on Iran.
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>>64919997
That's the automatic assumption, the video is just a bit odd and raises other possibilities.
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>>64920001
>no don't shoot this rabid dog it's warmongering
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>>64919997
Simultaneous friendly fire on multiple jets?
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Man Iran must be utterly fucked. I haven't seen a cope offensive like this in a while.
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>>64920009
Still waiting on literally any indication of more than one. I'm becoming increasingly convinced that they found two pilots and didn't realize that they were from the same plane.
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>>64919970
>Trump says allies did nothing but hide behind americans in Iraq and Afghanistan
>allies still send their young to die for ZOG
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>>64920020
Trump corrected himself, but only for Bongs.
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>>64920009
Two wingmen heading home from a bombing run. They fly into the engagement radius of a Kuwait SAM site. Its crew has been awake for 18 hours straight. An IFF tag is misread. An order to fire is given before attempts at deconfliction. The battery launches at both birds (assuming it's two).
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>>64919889
He thought Iran was like Iraq, Syria, Libya or Venezuela, where power laid upon one single man and the regime would collapse if they simply killed the political leadership and its potential successors. The IRGC is practically an independant entity, Iran is decentralized, and now they wonder how they can keep targeting everyone with missiles after killing the top leadership. That's monke-tier miscalculation. At least the US Air Force is not like the VKS.
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>>64919832
Jerusalem Jingles.
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>>64920038
Wouldn’t the anti air team be able to see the squak codes of the friendly jets or whatever equivalent the military use for identification?
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>>64919807
>TAMPA, Fla. – At 11:03 p.m. ET, March 1, three U.S. F-15E Strike Eagles flying in support of Operation Epic Fury went down over Kuwait due to an apparent friendly fire incident.

During active combat—that included attacks from Iranian aircraft, ballistic missiles, and drones — the U.S. Air Force fighter jets were mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses.

All six aircrew ejected safely, have been safely recovered, and are in stable condition. Kuwait has acknowledged this incident, and we are grateful for the efforts of the Kuwaiti defense forces and their support in this ongoing operation.
>The cause of the incident is under investigation. Additional information will be released as it becomes available.
https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/Press-Release-View/Article/4418568/three-us-f-15s-involved-in-friendly-fire-incident-in-kuwait-pilots-safe/
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>>64920042
>He thought Iran was like Iraq, Syria, Libya or Venezuela, where power laid upon one single man and the regime would collapse if they simply killed the political leadership and its potential successors.
I'm actually astounded that there is someone on this earth who can look at the situation and come to that conclusion. This is the absolute fucking opposite of doing that. This is EXPLICITLY leveling the entire fucking state apparatus of Iran exactly BECAUSE the Maduro Option wasn't going to work on them.
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>>64919889
He expected to get away with a huge bombing campaign the same way he got away with a single target strike.
Israel and their friends in DC would have told him this was easy because they want the US dragged into a prolonged war with Iran.
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>>64920053
What is "mosaic defence", anon? Care to explain how "leveling the entire fucking state apparatus of Iran" is going to work in this case?
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>>64920052
all 3 were shot down by Patriot?
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>>64920042
Being serious, I don't think it's a mistake on that level, but the way Trump and Heg have been conducting things it was only a matter of time that there would be some miscalculation, but I doubt it will be catastrophic, mainly due to the sheer effectiveness of US air force service members and their equipment, if the administration hadn't been so brazen in its treatment of US allies and had their help for this, it would go a lot smoother, remember when UK airforce helped downing shaheds going for Israel last time?
That kind of assistance would certainly have helped reduce the damage from the Iranian response.
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>>64920064
It's very simple, you bomb every person and every building associated with the government of Iran. Yes, it's going to take time, like we've been told to expect. Maybe the people will rise up and put together a new and less retarded government, or maybe they'll just stay in anarchy. Either case is acceptable.
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>>64920050
They should, yet ff still happens.
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>>64920008
>public opinion doesn't matter in America
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>>64920077
>Maybe the people will rise up and put together a new and less retarded government, or maybe they'll just stay in anarchy
The group best suited to take advantage of this and gain power are all those Taliban fighters that are bored with admin work and want to fight.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/taliban-bureaucrats-hate-working-online-all-day-miss-the-days-of-jihad/
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>>64920052
Heh, called it.
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>>64920052
At least the a2a streak is safe.
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>>64920077
>It's very simple, you bomb every person and every building associated with the government of Iran.
Calm down Dick.
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>>64920050
Not if they are panicking.
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>>64920106
The time for calming down was eight months ago when they could have chosen to negotiate in good faith. Instead, the Iranian government will now cease to exist.
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Arapes are incredibly incompetent.
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>>64920116
This is indirectly caused by the US ignoring its European allies that could have assisted providing air defense in the region and placing less strain on the less well trained gulf states militaries.
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>>64920123
europeans are a bunch of bitches. they don't want anything to do with this
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>>64920123
What European allies? That ship has sailed.
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>>64920132
They even helped protect Israel downing shaheds that one time, this kind of thing matters in a conflict of this scale where attrition becomes a factor.
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Could B-2's get friendly-fired?
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>>64920142
>where attrition becomes a factor
So why are we talking about Europeans?
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>>64920147
They could be shooting down shaheds and cruise missiles reducing the pressure on these ornamental gulf state militaries.
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>>64920132
>destroy relations with allies
>wtf why dont they want anything to do with our war!
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>>64920162
But European militaries don't have a backlog of missiles to shoot down shaheds and cruise missiles with. They only started rearming a year ago.
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>>64920180
Ukraine does, and have successfully shot down Shadhed drones shot from the Russians every night with almost 99% interception rate, some night even 100%
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>>64920183
Ukraine's a bit busy right now.
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>>64920173
>our war
iran is hitting their bases too lol. they hit french and british bases.
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>>64920180
But they do and they did previously, I don't get it, you'd rather rely on barely trained Arabs that already shot down 3 jets than on EU allies that are far more competent.
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>>64919970
Imagine if Starter was PM during the Falklands war
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>>64920206
>SMO
Oh no, it's stupid.
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>>64920083
No, it really doesn't.
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>>64920193
I don't think you understand. Kuwait is a country. It's a location on the planet. It has its own air defenses that will always be there. Even if all of Europe was participating in Epic Fury, planes would still be flying over Kuwait.
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>>64920145
It would be very painful
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>>64920192
they hit Iraq too but nobody is rushing to mobilise the Iraqi army to join in the mystery war
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>>64920206
>SMO
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>>64919807
Reminder that Khamenei was the "Pope" of all Shia muslims...
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3 kills! Patriot missiles just werks
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>>64920218
irrelevant. either they take the hits like the bitches they are or actually do something
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>>64919965
They are already coping that Khamenei being killed only makes Iran stronger because the people that hate the regime will now somehow support the regime because martyrdom and shit.
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>>64920206
>who literally have been known to lie since the start of the SMO in order to boost morale of their people
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>>64920224
i wonder if suicide terror attacks will be back on the menu because of this
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>>64920214
There would be far less strain and panic among the air defense crews if they knew that shaheds and cruise missiles were being shot down instead of flying straight into their sensitive infrastructure and of their allies, the US and Israel will have to divert aircraft for that or just deal with Arab quality ground AD.
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>>64920001
Only to thirdies. If the pilots arent dead no one cares.
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>>64920077
But you see, in the words of thirdies, vatniks and changs, bombing their leaders and officials does nothing since their regime and military apparatus can run purely on religious zeal and strong belief in the multi-polar world, obviously.
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threadly reminder that Obama's treaty would have prevented this.
Even though war is more fun.
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>>64919807
>Friendly Fire

Suuuure

When B-2s are involved in "training accidents" we know who did it.

Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_-KltpE48s&list=RDr_-KltpE48s&start_radio=1
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>>64920256
Obama's treaty allowed Iran to continue nuclear development and barred inspectors from inspecting military sites.
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>>64920260
Why didn't they stop the jets before they bombed the ayatola?
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>>64919807
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE COUNTRY WE JUST DROPPED 2,000 BOMBS ON IN 1 DAY IS ANGRY AND WILL NOT SURRENDER?
>THE ENTIRE IRANIAN POPULATION HATES AMERICA? WHY? WHAT DID WE DO?
>I DONT UNDERSTAND
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>>64920267
They didn't have the right flag flying.
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>>64920267
Because they didn't think that the US would be so stupid to kill the "Pope" of all Shia muslims in the region, which is the most likely reason of the recent "friendly-fire":>>64920224
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>>64920268
We don't expect them to surrender.
We expect them to die.
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>>64920265
Why tell lies on the internet, anon?
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>>64920077
>If we bomb them hard enough we'll win
Your coombrain on MIC funding
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>>64920272
Why didn't they stop any of the other bombings?
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>>64920256
>Obama's treaty would have prevented this
what treaty? one that allows iran to dominate the region and arm proxies?
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>>64920268
Samefag. Iranian civilians don't like the regime. They're literally celebrating in the street, waiting on a go from the shah. US already killed the new leader of Iran again btw.
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>>64920232
>the people that hate the regime
You mean international Zionists?
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>>64920278
Yes. Kill every member of the Iranian government, and let whoever's left figure it out. We are finally taking the "glass the Middle East" approach, and I'm loving every moment.
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>>64920274
Nice projection.
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>>64920123
>This is indirectly caused by the US ignoring its European allies that could have assisted providing air defense in the region and placing less strain on the less well trained gulf states militaries.

News update buddy, all that air defense has been sent to Ukraine. USA is 90% of NATO and the 10% that is Europe is wholly committed to Ukraine. Europeon NATO are just tiny minions that America keeps around for sycophancy and laffs.
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>>64920282
The international zionists that were born and lived their entire lives in Iran while suffering from failing economy, lack of water and electricty and Islamic goverment oppression?
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>>64920288
I'm talking about using their jets to down shaheds and missiles over friendly airspace, this is well within their capabilities and they have done it before.
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>>64920224
>Native population of Kuwait rising up.
Yeah I'm sure a bunch of obese oil wealth funded, no guns having neets will rise up against the government that has given them free money for their entire lives.

Shiites are chimping out elsewhere but they sure as hell won't in Kuwait. Bahrain is a much more likely candidate in the gulf, because they actually treat their shiites like shit.
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>>64920145
inb4 this will be the only F-22 a2a kill
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>>64920097
Mudhen isn't part of the Eagle totals anyway
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>>64919807
why didnt they just evade the missiles?
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>>64919832
The pic pretty much confirms the friendly fire, they thought they would capture
Iranian pilots.
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>>64920322
They were essentially ambushed by Patriots they did not expect would be there, you can't escape that.
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>>64920333
that sounds unfair
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>>64920333
Well they did expect them to be there. Being attacked by their own SAM was not part of the plan.
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>>64920312
>there were no signs this rabid dog was going to attack you, you shouldn't've killed it
Post ayatowellah
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>>64920339
But it was extremely painful.
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>>64919807
Kuwait caused them all. I hope they're ready to pay up.
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>>64920333

Patriot systems were ready to fire at the push of a button and they flew right over them, there would be zero time to gain speed and maneuver enough to evade and give them a chance to survive at the altitude they were, especially thinking when they believe your over friendly airspace and you have your IFF tags running(I hope they did).
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>>64920357
Those 3 planes and SAM were operated by Indians, please understand
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>>64920310
The RAF have shot a few drones down. Not really sure what people expected though, it's not like the US was sharing their plans with anyone other than Israel. Besides, you can't expect to abandon Ukraine as an entirely European concern, and openly shill for pro-russian parties, then expect Europe to jump in to another American desert war.
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>>64920358
Mover and Gonky (former F-16 and F-18 pilots on youtube) talk about both flying combat missions without a working IFF due to maintenance backlogs.
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>>64920357
Hey Chang, would love to play but were in the middle of ending a 3000 year old civilization. Maybe we can give you some attention in like 2-3 weeks? Is that okay buddy?
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>>64920375
Yep
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>>64920375
>hope you're happy MIGAtards
Very
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>>64920375
>this would be funny if it wasn't the actual strategy being used by the US government
Of course it's not funny for you little brown guy, you're being bombed.
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>>64920375
I don't like Trump and I'm happy as fuck. This is the first thing he's done this administration I've been fully on board with. Iran had it coming
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>>64920396
Thanks for the input Moshe.
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>>64920052
I hope Kuwait will pay for damages. They can afford it.
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>>64920375
The funny thing is that the bombing IS improving the morale of the Iranian people. I've never seen people actually be happy that their country is being bombed...
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>>64920421
You're most welcome!
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>>64920449
>dying for Israel?
You're asking why I am happy that the country that seized our embassy staff, is behind the Beirut Barracks bombing and supported insurgents in Iraq and has been fucking with us in the Straight of Hormuz for a generation is getting a civilizational reset?
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>>64920449
Because Iran has been a fucking thorn in the middle east for decades causing problems. About time they got their shit pushed in like Saddam and Gaddafi
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>>64920449
I'm upset about the American lives lost. I don't think they had to die and I pray for their families.

However Iran has made a habit of attacking US citizens and troops since their current regime's inception. I sure as hell don't want those fuckers getting nukes, considering their state motto is legitimately "death to america." If you think peacenik appeasement or anything short of total subordination to Islam would stop them, you're delusional
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>>64920449
Because every time in the last twenty years that you have said we should glass the middle east or asked what the fuck we're even doing there in the first place, it has been because of something incited or exacerbated by the Iranian government. Their time is long overdue.
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>>64919807
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>>64920492
This still feels Russian or possibly Iranian

>>64920496
The tone of this post feels more Chinese to me

Could be the same person but my autism disagrees
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Based Kuwait
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>>64920492
>stopping Iran from killing Americans means you are a jew shill
Why shouldn't America stop the nation that chants Death to America on the daily Anon?
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>>64920492
Cool. Iran still deserves to die, and I'm glad to see it happen.
>>64920496
Yeah, it's going to be 4 or 5 weeks, and then we'll see if they have the guts for it. If not, then bomb 'em again, why not.
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>>64920525
Israel doesn't have the interceptors to absorb 4-5 weeks of missile attacks, neither do the Gulf countries, nor the US bases in those countries.
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So what is orange man going to do if the IRGC just keep on trucking after a couple of weeks and oil prices reach $200 a barrel?
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>>64920530
Some bold implications in that claim.
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>>64919807
>>64920052
All those years of third worlders claiming we can't airstrike Iran because their Russian SAM systems will shoot down an F-35. Meanwhile in reality the only thing shooting our jets down are friendly Patriot (presumably) batteries lmao.
For real though, holy shit what a fuckup.
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>>64920547
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_JcM45gaFs
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>>64920526
>Trump's horrible war plan
seems to be going excellent actually
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>>64920534
This guy claims the American military used 150 THAAD interceptors in the first day alone of this war.

https://youtu.be/sYVE6gz3dN8?si=YlBqZpaX_7x1cLfq&t=354

At this rate, 4,500 THAAD interceptors would be used in a month.
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>>64920496
While I agree with you regarding regime change there's no such thing as "casualties mount on all sides" other than single digits from some servicemen being pelted by shaheds. This war is completely one sided with US and allies enjoying full air superiority over Iran.
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>>64920559
The regime was weaker when unarmed citizens were on the streets instead of billion dollar jets in the skies.
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>>64920561
Mhm. And how many did they use yesterday? How many are they going to use today? Israel issued 20 raid alerts on the 28th. They issued 4 on the 1st.
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>>64920564
Iranian missiles are hitting US bases in the Gulf, and civilians in those Gulf countries, and military targets and civilians in Israel. The USA and Israel have air superiority over Iran, but unless they bomb all the tunnels containing the missiles and their launchers, Iran can still retaliate.
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>Goal of strikes on Iran is not regime change, Hegseth says
The fuck is the Trump admin doing then?
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>>64920593
Neocons are already walking back their goals knowing they've failed to accomplish them
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>>64920357

American GOD SEAD
>Safely and immediately destroys and disables Chinesium A2/AD, illumination radars, and EW/ECM Suites
Chinese super duper Anti-"stealth" SAMs and complimentary systems
>Touts invincible and inescapable capability against western planes and electronic warfare attacks/jamming
>Does nothing
>See above

See how easy that is? Also, >poojeets doing anything correctly.

The big story there wasn't the jets getting shot down, it was dumb jeets still not having their planes and systems interlinked and able to coordinate between each other to get an accurate view of the battlespace. Pakistan just showing how a few AWACS airborne that can share radar information, illuminate targets, and communicate between all their platforms is invaluable to modern air combat. The jeet airforce being so compartmentalized and not being able to distinguish between even their own planes airborne, while they're forced to make split second decisions by themselves and what action to take is what fucked them up at the end. Having an AWACS(western made btw) lighting up and giving tracking information compared to jeets barely knowing their left from right and not being able to talk between airframes is going to get you fucked up when you have 100+ planes in the air going at it.
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>>64920596
>still trying to squeeze some mileage out of this debunked story
grim
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>>64919905
Do we have a burger version of that Russian Fighter guy? Just so we know exactly when aircraft have been lost.
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>>64920561
That's of course assuming the Iranians will be able to maintain their launch rate. They only have so many missile launch systems on hand, and they're losing them constantly.
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>>64920573
dude they crushed the protests quicker than the us military could build up forces in the regions. fuck are you talking about? they'll be far weaker now with the people who did the repression being taken out
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>>64920077
The fact Iran decided to go headless chicken and hit the Arab states means if they can't chose a successor government, the league will chose for them.
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>>64920613
That's really pathetic dude. You could easily blame Iranians for building a school next to a naval base like the retards they are but no let's trust the plan.
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>>64920596
>iran state media says
i love how shills on here don't even try to hide being mouth pieces for failed regimes
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>>64920593
What part of the last year has given you the impression that trump has any kind of long term plan? He just does things, there's no actual policy.

Trumps Ukraine peace plan was for them to surrender. When they said no, he had nothing. Most of the other war he supposedly ended have either restarted or are at risk of restarting because the core issues were never addressed, he just wanted the headline. The Venezuela operation, as impressive as it was, haven't actually achieved anything substantial. The entire Greenland situation. Irans nuke program was supposedly destroyed last year, but they are still using it as an excuse. With no clear successor, regime change is also dubious.

Trump is a pure ideas guy, however this time he doesn't have even vaguely competent people around him to turn those ideas into realistic plans.
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>>64920650
The funniest thing has been their chimp out of hitting about 10 to 15 other countries or their bases. Essentially removing any chance of someone wanting to help them. It's also really funny that they're trying to spin loss of central command and control as some kind of plan.
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>>64920668
Countries they’re attacking wouldn’t have ever helped them. Either because of Sunni/Shia shit, or because they’re US allies.
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>>64920682
Ayatollah status?
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>>64920668
To be fair, Iran wasn't exactly swimming in friends even before they did that. Sure Russia and china bought stuff from them out of convenience, but neither of them ever tried to help Iran in any meaningful way. If they had spend the $2T that went to their nuke program on virtually anything else, not only would there be fewer protests, but they might not even have to find new top officials every few months.
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>>64920701
>yoinks Maduro in 3 hours
>gets air superiority over Iran in 24hrs
>is somehow a facade
Whatever brownoid
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>>64920701
>superpower's facade drops like a turd into a toilet
why? because incompetent arabs whacked friendlies out of the sky?
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>>64919997
100%. Kuwaits shit is outdated and doesn’t know what it’s shooting at. U.S. isn’t going to suppress an “ally” AD system. Poor F15Es was just trucking some missiles to their target and got shot in the back by a teammate. Kuwait are the fat kid in sweat pants during dodgeball hanging out in the back trying not to get hit and throwing dead ducks.
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>Be brown
>Lose
>Claim youre not on western internet for attention from westerners to cope
Many such cases!
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>>64920720
>Cant control their allies
Rough, the British controlled their 3rd world militias better
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>>64920701
>I have no stake
>Let me ignore that Kuwait fucked up and blame Americans
Uh huh
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>>64920719
>brownoid
Like clockwork
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>>64920053
Bullshit it’s identical. They just have to dig a bit deeper down the chain of command to get to their plant that they did to put Delcy Rodriguez in charge.
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>>64920730
>>Cant control their allies
are you 12 years old? outside of operating the systems themselves how are they supposed to "control them"
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>>64920747
coordinate with them so they don’t shoot down your aircraft?
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>>64920733
>Coping over losing 2 shithole allies in 2 months by focusing on getting called brown
Brownoid moment
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>>64920396
>wasn't on board with exiling spics
>is on board spending money blowing up towelheads
Look faggot I think it's funny that Iran is getting cucked but lets not pretend this doesn't cost money and doesn't make kikes happy, two negatives do outweigh a positive.
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>>64920668
>They took out our central command in one fell swoop!
>We prepared for this... those infidels will never see this coming.
>RANDOM BULLSHIT GO!
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>>64920752
ah, of course "coordinate with them" that will get rid of arab incompetency. why didn't they think of this
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>>64920762
Explains the random attack they made on Iraq
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>>64919807
looks like kuwaitis cant AA for shit
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>>64920805
They literally bagged 3x F-15's so they're good at shooting shit down: >>64920052
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>>64920775
And Oman. Iran's foreign minister outright said it's their excuse for why there was a strike on Oman. Iranian missile crews are currently acting on "general instructions given to them in advance"
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>>64920809
Its very easy to shoot down planes that are trusting you not to shoot them down. I know Browns dont get this, trust is a hard concept for them.
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>>64920682
>3 friendly fire incidents are the american century of humiliation
curious
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>>64920848
It was the century of humiliation for vatniks when they shot down their own AWACS, Su-35's and Su-34's
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>>64920853
That was blue on blue. This is green on blue. If you're gonna give the US shit, you're better using the 2 F18s that fell off a carrier instead.
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Seriously, why are Americans like this?
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>>64920449
That's as many Americans as died when Iran threw a tantrum and started bombing American bases last year. The difference is, after this operation Iran will no longer have the ability to throw a tantrum with ballistic missiles.
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>>64920853
every heard of a little something called desert storm? it was the greatest display of modern military power and yet...
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Uh oh, things might not be going as well as hoped
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>>64919807
He didn't fly so good
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>>64920915
We posting grainy AIslop now to cope?
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>>64920915
Second Ayatollah status?
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>>64920204
I mean, the OG Argentinian plan was to wait for a milder British PM, capture the islands without bloodshed to force open negotiations, return all the captives and hope the UN intervened with a ceasefire or the like.
But as you all know Galtieri was a desperate idiot and chose to try and pull that off with little preparation and Margaret "Finish the Irish" Thatcher on the other side.
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>>64920973
I insist on dead Mudslimes. I don't really care who does it.
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>>64920971
They could've just come to the British with a simple purchase offer and I think it would've been enough. But nooooo, they had to get Britain's dormant imperial pride involved.
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>>64920973
I'm actually pissed that it's Trump because the guy's a fucking retard and I'm worried he'll get bored and walk away halfway through.
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>>64919909
Whom are you quoting? Your greentext doesn't match the posts you quoted. You wouldn't be a projecting asshat who needs to be euthanized, now would you?
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>>64920973
I dont defend your desert shithole's so called prophet Mohammed
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>>64920986
With enough cash (not like Argentina is going to pay back their current debts before the heat death of the universe), letting the Brits keep their base and some economic concessions I bet the deal could potentially happen even today.
But that's not as politically profitable as yapping about how you are doing so much to recover the islands and insulting the UK (while making deals with Israel) on public TV when election season approaches while doing absolutely nothing useful.
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>>64920991
same. If anyone can manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, it's Trump.
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Why didn't Trump just send Delta Force to defeat Iran with alien sound technology?
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>64920282
Post water salinity below 100 ppt.
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>>64921190
actually he sent in the SEALs which resulted in a critical mission failure, 6 friendly fire incidents, a school bombing, and 4 book deals
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>>64919807
Eternal flight for the motherland
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What happens after these friendly fire incidents? Is Kuwait expected to pay for those jets or what?
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>>64920973
Why do leftists keep bringing up the files and this being a "distraction" from them when its Bill Clinton being deposed by congress and Trump is not incriminated in the files at all? I get they need something to act sanctimonious about, but shouldn't you NOT draw attention to the thing that splashes your side more than the other? Just feels like a very fucking stupid propaganda tactic.
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>>64920533
privately celebrate with that weird little dance that looks like he's jerking off two guys that he's always doing and publically spin it as a windfall from american oil exports shooting through the stratosphere.
>inb4 but Russia
it's not like he gives a shit about how that would screw Ukraine over by giving Russia a much needed lifeline.
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>Qatar's air force has shot down two Iranian SU-24 aircraft, according to a statement from Qatar's Ministry of Defence
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>>64921284
we'll build more big beautiful jets and the kuwaitis will pay for them
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>>64921294
The cope is that there's another mountain of Epstein files somewhere and that's the one that will finally nail Trump.

See >>64921304
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>>64921312
It's anyone's guess as to what's in the other 60% of the files

>If you did nothing wrong you have nothing to hide
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>>64920224
No. He is not. "Pope" of Shia supposed to be Muhammad's descendant. He is merely leader of Shia clerics in Iran.
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>>64919943
>Kidnapping one dude is not regime change when his cronies simply remain in power and carry on as always
Trump campaigned against Bush-style regime change, but he also campaigned on Obama being a pussy who made bad deals. So what I think he's doing is resorting more to hard power than Obama, but without the intent to totally change any particular regime, but to change the policies of those governments. Recalls Clinton in the 90s in a way. The plan in Venezuela is to stabilize things now, do an orderly non-kinetic transition later, elections in 2027 probably.

>>64920042
>The IRGC is practically an independant entity, Iran is decentralized, and now they wonder how they can keep targeting everyone with missiles after killing the top leadership.
The command and control structure of Iran's strategic missile forces are still operating, and they pre-programmed it into function a certain way, and they want to burn through our inteceptors. But the U.S. and Israel might have planned for weeks of bombing. Serbia 1999 was 78 days. We'll see what happens.

>>64920053
>This is EXPLICITLY leveling the entire fucking state apparatus of Iran exactly BECAUSE the Maduro Option wasn't going to work on them.
I don't think they can destroy the IRGC from the air. Like, Trump said in his speech that they need to give up and join with oppositionists etc. which implies that their power apparatus would still exist in a new Iran. The fundamental issue is that the IRGC runs the Iranian economy. It's like the KGB in the Soviet Union which turned into the FSB. I think Trump wants Iran to scratch the "Islamic" part off the name "Islamic Republic of Iran" while not going full Dubya.
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>>64921304
Why didn't Biden destroy him while he could if the democrats had the files available to them for 4 years? they called Jan 6th worse than Pearl Harbor but didn't care enough to actually end his political career when they could? It is all very silly. Obviously Trump wanted to protect someone he likes though, but who? Bannon? Netanyahu?
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>>64921353
>why didnt they destroy evidence?
Try to keep up, boomer
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>>64920733
God I want Rory to sit on my face and piss in my mouth
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>>64919832
>ooo sorry brother i was about to smesh you with paip
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>>64921342
>The command and control structure of Iran's strategic missile forces are still operating, and they pre-programmed it into function a certain way, and they want to burn through our inteceptors. But the U.S. and Israel might have planned for weeks of bombing. Serbia 1999 was 78 days. We'll see what happens.

This is not true. They've already gone into local command mode, which is why we see random strikes against Oman and Iraq.
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>>64919832
why doesn't the pilot have a gun?
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>>64920596
>girl school
Shame it's fake. I hate foids so much it's unreal
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>>64921400
i dont think f15s have ejector seats. judging from the footage he was just normal paracuting down.
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>>64920853
it was a century of humiliation for vatniks way before that
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>>64921299
Shit even those idiots managed to notch their belt?
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>>64921413
What???
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>>64920809
allied planes

ergo they cant AA for shit
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>>64921353
>trump wants to protect
All the kikes, seriously he's a jew-lover. He knows that the its pretty obvious Epstein was one part of a larger Jew blackmailing scheme. Remember how all those televangelists got caught doing shit back in 2005. Well twenty years before that every single one of them got generous support from jewish organizations to start their radio and television programs. Jews don't support anybody unless they have dirt on them or they are an honest licker of heeb boots. The last thing they want is a popular voice screaming for their blood and there be zero dirt on him.
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>>64921299
the pilots are dead aren't they?
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anyone else talk to Persians and get this weird vibe like, they want the regime to go down, but don't want them to go down too easily. Like they want enough dead US/IDF to not look like wimps.
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Since these are American jets the reports on what happened will eventually come out.
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>>64920042
I have kind of an opposite take. I think they knew this would happen and wanted it. They wanted a full-scale, long term war with Iran and knew NATO and Congress would never authorize it beforehand, so instead they set off an Iranian chimpout and now everybody's being drawn in and can't back out until it's done.
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>>64920915
I'm not sure how they could be going much better desu
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>>64920507
kek
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>>64921455
Makes sense though, they're the only Shia Muslim nation. They don't want to be partitioned by the neighboring Suuni nations.
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>>64920193
He has to cope somehow
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>>64921505
>B-But the jews!!
/pol/tards never fail to make everything about israel
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>>64921413
Let me guess: you think the crew jump out of the cockpit, being careful to not hit the propeller.
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>>64921413
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>>64920665
How's Maduro?
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>>64920973
Why do redditors insist on raiding a board centering on a topic they despise.
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>>64919970
>get hit
By a drone that caused no damage, we should have more assets there to defend the base but other than that this one is all you. This conflict is your clusterfuck this time.
>YOU EUROPOORS ARE SO POOR AND WEAK HAHA WE COULD TAKE GREENLAND
>Uhhh bros you don't wanna sit this one out do you? wouldn't want to be cucks would you?
So pathetic, things aren't going well and you're already asking us to help you out. I thought European militaries were weak?

This is not our fight, you lot should be able to do this all by your lonesome if you're so strong. Also don't forget your president slagged off our wardead whilst threatening to take Greenland. That retard Hegeseth has no idea what he's doing,
>uhh we're just going to bomb them bro, haha, peace through strength, haha
>yeah no troops on the ground
KEK
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>>64921416
I think its five centuries and counting for China and for Russia the last time they weren't humiliated was 1812.
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>>64921627
Jews literally made the board you crawled out of. You are a golem.
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Why does America have a blue on blue problem? How does a mistake like this even happen?
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>>64919832
President of peace
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>>64921668
Poor communication between the parties involved and often times a deviation from the established protocols.
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>>64919807
This is what happens when you start a war without coordinating with your regional allies.
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>>64919910
I was thinking that as well, but I know there are some single seat versions of the F-15.
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>>64921413
In a board full of ignorant retards who love to talk about shit they have no clue about, you have somehow managed to stand out for your retardedness. It's actually impressive. Well done.
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>>64921668
Kuwaiti retards dumped an entire patriot battery into a flight of F15Es. Just because you give them the weapons doesn't mean they'll use em right. At least all six crew have been recovered.
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>>64921299
What happens on the Qatari MoD's Snapchat?
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>>64920593
In the words of Doctor Ivo Robotnik
>QUICK, MAKE A DISTRACTION
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>>64919807
Because we shot them down...

Three American jets were mistakenly shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses, U.S. Central Command said.
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>F-15 looked at F-15's 0 losses in aerial combat and said "bet"
Fuckin' A
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>muh sams
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>>64919807
How does one country compensate for friendly fire? Luckily none of the pilots got killed.
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>>64921702
This still happens with well coordinated operations. Military comms are a game of telephone, and they get significantly longer when multiple nations are involved. All it takes is 1 person to not pass the message along in a timely manner for the chain to break down.
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>>64921813
Buy the US 3 new F-15EXs
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>>64919848
Well nobody else has the capability to shoot them down
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>>64919832
Khaffir and the Dune-coons
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>>64919889
Iran leadership have so much to gain by surrendering. They get to be executed. Why would they throw their lives away by fighting back
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>>64920885
It's generally not a smart idea to start blasting civilians in an allied country.
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>>64920593
Cant exactly regime change from the air. Requires some boots on the ground
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>>64919889
He looked at protests, thought "hey if I kill this mofo they'll pour on the streets again and take the country", they indeed poured onto the streets... and predictably started getting shot by the military. You can't do a quick regime change a country with a strong military, because regardless of if it was loyal to the previous leader or not, the military will take power regardless.
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>>64921668
Lmao incredible how Kuwait managed to pass this on as a friendly fire mistake. Thrice.
Protip: it was not. They're not your allies. They hate you all the same. And if it's not on orders from the highers up, then it's the operators playing the ''oooops'' card.
And you're all falling for it.
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>>64921894
>kuwaitis hate you!
>first thing out of a Kuwaiti to US pilot
>thanks for fighting Iran
Kek. Lmao
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>>64920915
>not a state sanction picture from our Supreme leader
Gotta be fake
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>>64920885
>>64919832
I'm almost sure this particurlar pic is fake, it doesn't correspond with any of the footage we have of the pilots meeting with the local civilians.
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>>64919889
Got high on his own supply (by surrounding himself with yes-men), Putin style, so he thinks he's going to get a 3 day SMO of his own.

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