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Sabotage and reconnaissance groups are being used quite actively in the Russian-Ukrainian war.
https://files.catbox.moe/qe85xd.mp4

>>64919904
why did they ask him to lay down his weapon rather than just magdumping on sight?

>>64919911
Prisoners are more useful than dead soldiers.

>>64919890
in ukraine? yes
i remember observer risking their lives to get ontop of the donbabwe airport tower to direct artillery fire.

in other armies and conflicts? dont think so. the role might change a bit

>>64919911
>>64919916
Yes. So they had the opportunity to take him pow and exchange him for one of their soldiers.
But he decided to play the hero.

>>64919890
if you give your forward observers drones they can observe even further forward

>>64919890
No
>>64919929

>>64919890
No because at the lower echelons (company and platoon), you still need a guy whose sole job is ensuring that fire support lands as closely and safely to friendly forces as possible to kill enemy that is in close proximity. Yeah, the commander can do it himself, and perhaps a smart rifleman can be trained to do it as well, but an infantry commander will be too task-saturated during operations to plan both a maneuver and a fires plan, nevermind execute both plans well once they take contact. And a smart rifleman will take several months to become proficient in this additional duty, only to be moved up to a leadership position shortly after achieving proficiency, starting the cycle over again. If you want fire support landing close enough to your position to kill the enemy in a close-in fight (when you need fire support the most and the margin of error is the smallest/risk of fratricide the highest), you need a guy who lives and breathes fires support. Everything else is basically a half measure. This can't easily be replicated by a drone because if you come under ambush, you won't have time to send up a quadcopter to observe, your best bet is to have a guy there on the ground who can use his intuition (that takes a good couple years to develop) and situational awareness to quickly drop rounds very close to friendly troops in an incredibly confusing and rapidly changing situation. A drone will help us in our trade, but at the end of the day, its just a tool for us, and it can't replace the need for someone on the ground who is acting as a liaison between fires and maneuver, who is the subject matter expert on weaponeering and who is also responsible for developing a fire support plan

t. 10 year forward observer