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Now that Iran is busy getting absolutely buttfucked will there be any noticeable effect on the war in Ukraine? Specifically regarding Iran supplying Russia with drones.
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>>64921450
Iran is not suplying whole drones anymore, but the first few Geran prodcution sites were set up with Iranian 'advisors', make of that what you will.
It's clear that Russia is doing their own thing now with the jet powered Geran, ECm versions, or the one they armed with air-to-air missiles, the one that had starlink, etc.
The actual effect might be more psychological, because Russians are seeing one 'ally' after another getting completely wrecked, and their influence even in neighboring countries just evaporating.
There are whole telegram channels full of people slowly realizing, and (indirectly, if you straight up say it they might get v&) saying, that they are fucking losing.
Which is probably why Russia wants to ban telegram now, lol.
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>>64921511
So at this point, would the "special operation in Ukraine" end due to lack of resources and participants or will we be seeing "targeted strikes" by US carrier groups in the Baltic sea at the end of the year? That's assuming Iran wraps up in "four weeks" like the head nacho says.
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>>64921450
You must be a bit of a low-information retard. Russia produces its own Gerans and has been doing so for some time, and probably has a production capacity several times greater than Iran.
However, If what people are saying about LUCAS drones is true then things are just gonna continue getting harder and harder for the Russians.
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>>64921511
>Iran is not suplying whole drones anymore
Didn't Ukraine schwack a ship carrying sneeds/sneed parts like 4 months ago?
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>>64921720
>be feeling worse off in the short-to-medium term as this war is costing hundreds of missile interceptors.
Trump hasn't approved the transfer of ANY physical goods since taking office. Some Biden-era package items kept tricking through though after the administration change - as far as I know all of that has finished.
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>>64921781
That's because Trump switched from an aid-based mechanism to having NATO pay for the weapons. They're still coming from U.S. stockpiles/Pentagon supply chains, they're just not donated. Nonetheless, you can't buy what isn't there. If the U.S. has to divert those weapons to the middle east, then Ukraine's place in the queue falls.
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>>64921788
>They're still coming from U.S. stockpiles
No.
>They're coming from U.S. supply chains
It has been US policy to never endanger own supply and to make buyers wait for new build shit going back to the Korean where. RoK complained about it. This is for "purchased" weapons.
I still find it funny that Biden saved money by allowing Ukraine to decommission some of the the expired missile stock that otherwise would have been very expensive to get rid of stateside.
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>>64921856
I'm not sure what your point is. Ukraine is reliant on the supply of PAC-3's which can only come from the U.S. Trump is no longer donating those missiles to Ukraine. Instead, NATO now buys the missiles from the U.S. and gives them to Ukraine. If the U.S. shutters or slows those sales to refresh its own stockpiles, that means the flow of missile interceptors to Ukraine will be reduced.
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>>64921885
I' m nitpicking your phrasing of shit "coming from U.S. stockpiles." It isn't. The reason Trump justified stopping all military aid is because the arsenal of democracy is needed to confront Chai-nah.
Apparently that's only true as long as Israel isn't threatened.
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>>64921521
>will we be seeing "targeted strikes" by US carrier groups in the Baltic sea at the end of the year?
No but you might see Poland doing it.
The US has its hands full between curb-stomping Iran and doing a bit of heavy lifting for Israel (or more like providing political cover for Israel to mop up the remnants) and prepping for China.
Russia doesn't require US intervention on that level, if the US flew any mission against Russia, it would be to take out strategic bombers to prevent Russia's death throes looking like IRGC's death throes but with nukes.
What the USN would be doing I leave to your imagination because the virginias etc aren't heavily involved in Iran and I'm sure there would be boots on the ground briefly at a whole bunch of silo sites but that wouldn't be considered warfare in the modern sense.
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It's come out that the Russians are ripping the tram infrastructure out of the ground in Mariupol.
Reminds me of the late 1940's when the Russian's ripped some of Berlin's suburban rail lines and accompanying electrification equipment out as "reparations", only for them to sit unused outdoors in a field in the USSR.
Why are they like this?
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>>64921775
>Didn't Ukraine schwack a ship carrying sneeds/sneed parts like 4 months ago?
There was a claim about it, they certainly hit something they said was full of weapons/components, in the Caspian sea I believe.
I think it's probably engines and dual-purpose components that are covered by sanctions.
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>>64921450
It's a majpor supply chain for more than drones and its fucking over.
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Zigger sisters just will have to be doing iot for themselves.
02.03.2026
Tanks — 11713 (+4)
Armored fighting vehicle — 24111 (+3)
Artillery systems — 37795 (+74)
MLRS — 1665 (+3)
Anti-aircraft warfare — 1313 (+5)
Planes — 435
Helicopters — 348
UAV — 153169 (+1810)
Cruise missiles — 4384
Ships (boats) — 29
Submarines — 2
Cars and cisterns — 80757 (+247)
Special equipment — 4076 (+1)
Military personnel — aprx. 1267730 people (+960)
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>>64921909
PURL comes out of U.S. stockpiles, retard:
https://mod.gov.ua/en/news/how-nato-european-partners-and-the-united-s tates-are-strengthening-ukraine-thr ough-the-purl-initiative
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>>64921914
>It's come out that the Russians are ripping the tram infrastructure out of the ground in Mariupol.
Someone probably intends to sell the steel to a tank foundry and pocket the profit.
>>64921920
>Anti-aircraft warfare — 1313 (+5)
Ukraine has been on fire with Total Air Defence Death these last three days. +2, +3, +5....
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>>64921914
>Why are they like this?
enterprising local leaders gotta get their money somehow. They stole all the ambulance and firetrucks out of Kherson, too.
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>>64921521
It will not end as long as king monke drives his people to be cubed.
They're clearly willing to move forward with jack shit for cover and drones as support, so Ukraine will just keep killing them.
However:
Russia can maintain the current tank and AVF losses for another year or so, then they'll have used up all the Soviet stockpiles they're currentlya refubishing. But Russia will not advance rapidly, and has lost all capabilities for an organized deep penetration or exploitation of such a breakthrough.
Russi is also seriously short on money, which will result in a financial crisis at some point. Thsi is going to devastate the Russia neconomy when it happens.
Will NATO or the EU intervene directly? No. But the EU is clearly willing to help in every way short of direct intervention.
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>>64922040
>AVF
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>>64922011
It's still better then nothing, especially if you take into account the complete shitshow that is the russian economy.
https://youtu.be/lcCn4FPUKvc?si=gWs_xrjlzJ5a848R
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Just checked something.
What the FVCK?
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>>64921450
Not initially because China and Russia are pretending that the war in Iran is not happening, but it will have affects. China losing all its alternative oil sources is now forced to buy more Russian, and buying more Russian means getting involved with Ukraine which China absolutely does not want do, so Russia will get pressured even more to end the war by any means. Whether ti's means a big offensive or a cope treaty is anyone's guess
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>>64921960
They would be, but doing so puts their "allies" into a bind and causes them to start demanding Russia solve things in order to lower gas/oil prices. China especially losing over 30% of their oil imports in the span of 3 months is going to cause economic and political blowback as Russia starts demanding more
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>>64921960
>One thing that I've seen mentioned is that Russia will be able to sell their oil for higher prices.
You might wish to take a look at Zelenskyy's channel.
>Zelensky has offered to help UAE, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia counter Iranian drones in exchange for their influence on Russia to agree to a ceasefire, Bloomberg reported
Ukraine is sending interceptor drones and specialists to operate them in exchange for the oil states fucking with oil prices to fuck Russia.
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>>64922132
>russia will be flying more and more sorties unimpeded
The wing of shaheds they just sent to Kyiv were shot down by Skynex guns without an impact.
When exactly will these unimpeded sorties happen?
Because it doesn't seem to be tonight.
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>>64922176
>MUH AMMO DEPLETION
Yeah please actually site the source for that, I saw that /pol/ claimed that was wapo but litterally nothing from Wapo days that. Also the planes were confirmed to be friendly fire and all pilots are fine. Please go and get killed by a rioters Iran shill
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>>64922176
>Canadian hands typed this post.
I'll grant you the magazine depletion, but the learned skill in conducting a multi-domain war across a crowded battlespace is valuable. The last time China went to war the Vietnamese mauled them. They should probably consider a dress rehearsal before going for Taiwan.
All this is also setting aside taking another piece of the BRICS puzzle off the board, while everyone just sits back and watches.
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>>64922180
I'd like it to be true, but at most Ukraine is going to send some rear line pencil pushers to "consult" Gulf Arabs on how to deal with Shaheds on the cheap (if they even do that). Which, even that would be an upgrade, but still.
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>>64922247
>ah so you are just butthurt about ww1+2
yes
>probably east german too, right?
ew, no.
>can't wait to get back under the wings of russian grandaddy (by rape)?
No russia must ultimately be destroyed, we need to genocide all russians ofc.
But currently the jews and their anglo golem are the biggest enemy.
Priorities, priorities.
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>>64922048
Yeah sorry, I'm glad the other letters came out mostly in the correct order.
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>>64922241
>I'm german. I want is to fuck the french
But the Frogs have a better army than you.
>genocide the poles
But the Poles have a better army than you.
>buy cheap russian ressources
Typical Germans. Selling out Europe in the name of "efficiency." Deutschland delenda est.
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>>64922263
It's okay, Anon.
>>64922040
>Russia is also seriously short on money, which will result in a financial crisis at some point. This is going to devastate the Russian Economy when it happens.
Something I keep trying to talk about on /k/ is that Russia's military R&D programs have been gutted at this point (2022+4). PAK-DA is dead. Su-57 is dead. Su-75 is dead. Lider-class is dead. Even the production of new Tu-160M's is dead.
In essence, the Russian MoD has sacrificed its young to feed the war machine in Ukraine. The RuAF will not be a credible force in the 2030's.
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>>64922237
>at most Ukraine is going to send some rear line pencil pushers
That isn't what they said they're doing.
They said interceptor drones and their best operators and consultants to teach them how to do it themselves.
Ukraine has made a mini-industry out of up-skilling their allies and supports in this area.
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>>64922300
Got a TG or xitter link to throw at me?
Not seeing anything on Zelensky's channel and reports from other channels talk about "support in exchange for a truce", without going into details (hence my skeptical outlook on it).
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>>64922292
Wars always sacrifice the future of the country for survival in the present. Be it in the form of lost blood or treasure, the next generation will be worse off for it. No one escapes the calculus of war.
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>>64921775
>that video
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>>64922241
This all comes from a Trump comment where he said if they needed to, they have reserve stockpiles around the world at various bases. He didn't say they'll have to tap them soon or anything of the sort, he was asked about using too many missiles during this attack and he said he wasn't worried because they had access to stockpiles.
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>>64922315
>"support in exchange for a truce", without going into details
Well since a truce isn't in the Gulf states power to make, what he really means is "pressure Russia to agree to a ceasefire".
This means to squeeze Russia on oil revenue because that's within OPEC's power and the states tanking drones right now are absolutely a power-bloc that can enforce its will through OPEC.
Anyway, you asked for a source. There are a lot of sources so this is going to look like a schizo post but don't @ me.
tl:dr; https://t.me/noel_reports/42679
You can stop here if you want but do read that Austrian one, it's not even that autistic NATO shill we love.
https://english.nv.ua/nation/kyiv-ready-to-help-counter-iranian-uavs-z elenskyy-50588351.html
>Zelenskyy: Pressure Russia into ceasefire and Ukraine will help with Iranian drones
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/zelenskyy-offers-middle-east-help-to-t ake-1772474069.html
>Zelenskyy offers Middle East help to take down Shahed drones under one condition
This one seems a bit more interesting than the others.
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/4097347-ukraines-experience-in-co untering-drones-could-help-gulf-cou ntries-austrian-expert.html
>Ukraine's experience in countering drones could help Gulf countries – Austrian expert
https://unn.ua/en/news/zelenskyy-ready-to-send-experts-on-destroying-i ranian-drones-in-exchange-for-truce -media
>Zelenskyy ready to send experts on destroying Iranian drones in exchange for truce - media
https://censor.net/en/news/3603207/ukraine-will-shoot-down-drones-in-t he-middle-east-zelenskyy-on-the-con dition
>Ukraine is ready to help shoot down Iranian drones in Middle East in exchange for truce with Russia, - Zelenskyy
https://euromaidanpress.com/2026/03/02/ukraine-will-help-gulf-states-s hoot-down-irans-shaheds-if-their-le aders-push-putin-toward-a-ceasefire /
>Ukraine will help Gulf states shoot down Iran’s Shaheds — if their leaders push Putin toward a ceasefire
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>>64922462
>This guy doesnt understand oppurtunity costs.
He does but it's a true fact that war hurts everyone involved*.
Winning a war hurts less than losing it or surrendering to subjugation though so that's the price we pay to survive and of course, we put a premium on living free so there are prices we will not pay to avoid war.
* discounting wars of conquest and enslavement etc, Hitler was the last to try Roman world domination and it ultimately destroyed him too as it is Putin now
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>>64922457
>ziggers get quite literally EVERYTHING wrong. I don't know how they must live the shame
It is a bit off how shame-based cultures are shameless about so many things we'd consider mortifying and then ashamed of the things that we'd consider a decent thing to do (like apologise when you're wrong).
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>>64922132
>Ukraine will have even less AD then before, russia will be flying more and more sorties unimpeded.
I don't see how they would be impacted since the US hasn't provided Ukraine with any air defense weapons for a year now.
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>>64922132
>If I ignore my shitskin brothers and AD getting blown up in crisp HD, then it doesn't happen
lmao lol
I imagine ziggers have this mentality before they're shoved into no-man's land and violently de-limbed.
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while everyone was distracted with the happenings in the middle east, Ukraine started taking back territory at a faster rate than Russian advances, remember when they said russia was winning because it was "advancing on all fronts"? yeah...
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>>64922307
Oh come on, some minor typing errors are mostly not a problem.
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>>64922729
Do not worry, Staynerov's attack will set things right.