Forgot the subject again, sorry guys

>>65001857
Based retard

Khalash bash is happening soon and as I said before, I fully expect a 3 position selector to be announced then.

Anyone know if a 3 position FAL is still being worked on? I need to blow 20 dollars in a couple seconds on demand.

>>65001906

In development by Partisan Triggers

I am no longer asking. Someone develop a FRT for the ACR/Scythe. I would do it myself but I have 0 knowledge, experience, or equipment to make one

>>65001913
Good. I have something to start saving for.

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Arizona Regulator is fucking perfect for an M16A1, pretty much got it because I'd be able to keep the retro three-position selector. Shit's fun as tits.

>>65002445
didn't have to do any fitting or anything? what lower and upper?

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>>65002449
Yes, the hammer was dragging against the front surface of the Regulator so I was getting burst fire on semi. I just sanded the hammer surface making contact and that fixed it up. Trigger reset itself is barely noticeable on "FA," felt like I had a legit A1.
>what lower and upper?
Upper I made myself with an NDS receiver and a Green Mountain 1:12 barrel. Lower is from McKay Enterprises.

>>65002465
nice one! I heard some people were getting issues here and there, not exactly drop in

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>look into whether or not anyone has made one for MAC 10/11s
>find one
>constant OOBs
buh

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>>65002664
I think this when it comes out, might work?

https://old.reddit.com/r/3D2A/comments/1rmwx91/were_going_on_a_trip/

>>65001913
My FALO awaits.

>>65002445
Should work just as good in an A2.

>>65002684
Interesting

>>65001852
Has one for the UZI come out yet? I want to use my Group industries like it was supposed to be.

>>65002845
not to my knowledge

>>65002634
Yeah the QC leaves something to be desired but once you get it tuned you're set. Seems to the be the best stealth FRT on the market for ARs currently.

>>65002465
>>65002445
I heard it can work in high shelf lowers. That true?

>>65002845
>want to use my Group industries
My IMI Model A is ready.

>>65002862
says it does on the site

>>65002862
Yeah, but not pocket lowers ofc.

>>65002881
Those are the ones with the wall between the trigger and the lower pin?

>>65001852
>Thompson FRTs is released
What the fuck are you supposed to put them in? Auto Ordinance guns are comically overpriced pieces of shit. Who else makes Thompsons?

>>65002960
the FRT works for Auto Ordnance and Kahr Arms

FRT for Sub2000 when?

>>65002970
They're the same company

>>65002996
They are spelled completely differently. That's like saying Hummer is General Motors.

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>>65002999

>>65002970
So $2000 guns that barely function, got it.

>>65002996
I'm just reading what's on the site

>>65003005
I just provide information

>>65002991
probably closer than ever since ps90 progressive triggers have been figured out

>>65003012
Your read of the market trends is appreciated.

>>65003081
well thanks man, I really like this space and excited to see new platforms grow into something that really enhances the shooter's experience. I like to share information whenever I get it and update the list in the OP with said information as well, so if that helps you then that's pretty great.

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More footage of the Duality Arms Co's 3 position PS90 FRT

>>65003218
>as a jewel of gold in a swine's snout
Proverbs 11:22.

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ASDesigns HK Drop in Trigger update

>>65003402
Pretty sick. I do like my AR trigger and the ability to use the normal mag release without having freakishly long fingers though. It’ll be cool to have “clone correct” MP5 lower though

>>65003218
I dont wanna mock your woman but, mate, its time for some introspection.

>>65001852
soooo whats the deal with florida?
is it a no or a go?
some ship FRT to me and some dont, seems like a grey area here

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>>65001852
Is this the ARHK? I like the look of the lever (assuming they make it matte black)

>>65002445
Can you pull the trigger HARD without it locking up or otherwise malfunctioning? Any issues with bolt bounce?

>>65001917
I am no longer asking either. Someone make a slip trip for the LAW ARIC that allows it to work with an ASD Arc-fire

>>65001887
Fucking hope. I haven't shot my AKs in a while. Spent almost a grand trying to get the three position to work.

>>65003402
>every roller delayed
Fuggin based. I'm curious how they're going to do SEF vs NAVY pack housing compatibility.

>>65004039
Is that your gat anon? If so, what locking piece are you using? I'm new to all the MP5 specifics.

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>>65004205
I've been running a 90 degree. Gun is an MKE Turkroach AP5-P (MP5k)
Locking piece is the RCM 90 degree. Gun cycles 124 grain blazer CCI brass without a can just fine, 600 rounds zero issues with the 90 deg and no can. I put the 90 degree in there to run with my SiCo Omega9k but wanted to validate good reliability without can and the 90 deg.

>>65004039
>Is this the ARHK? I like the look of the lever (assuming they make it matte black)
yes, this is a testing unit, I am sure it will be black on release

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This guy announces 3 position AK FRT

>I present you the M.A.K.G.A TRIGGER.( MAKE AKs GREAT AGAIN). Installed one on my 104 ur an ran smoothly.Web page should be up in a couple of weeks. Also this is not a drop in trigger,some minor adjustments gonna be needed depending on your ak. Unfortunately not all aks are build identical and the tolerance vary.

https://old.reddit.com/r/ak47/comments/1s2liga/3_position_frt/

>>65003218
Never seen a stable bitch with a fuckin elephant tattoo lmao. Not even gonna get into the rest

>>65003223
>>65003885
>>65005242
not one post about the gun, god damn

Atrius G levers that works with geissele triggers is releasing tomorrow

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>>65005248
Oink.

>>65006177
this isnt even my girl or video, I posted it as information. Duality Arms Co posted it on their IG.

>>65006188
Well, somebody is fucking her. She's a happy lil' piggie!

>>65004231
so its true that the 90 degree is for those who run both can and no can? I plan on using a can along with the super safety, so i bought an 80 degree, but Id like to still have the option to run it without a can too

I hate living in Florida so much, man. So many dream builds, just not possible.

>>65006177
why does (s)he have a mustache? i don't think its the lighting.

>>65006511
Women who have hair issues (think arm, moustache, etc) tend to crop up as a result of ovary issues. Usually cysts. It causes hormone imbalances.

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Looks like duality arms co is teasing another platform. Some type of AK?

>>65002445
>>65002465
Aren't the devices supposed to be slotted into the upper receiver though? Maybe that's why you were having hammer issues since you were installing it like the Kabuto.

I have a few AZR-A1 kits that I haven't used yet, and the hammer looks like a standard AR-15 hammer included in with the FCG, so there shouldn't be parts rubbing together in theory.

>>65006795
>another platform
Siaga?

>>65007175
yeah probably, since it's a mamba trigger, it's 2 position only

>>65005248
There's alot of problems there and none of them are related to the gun, I mean come on man
>>65006177
She'd struggle to be attractive even without the piggy piercing and the tattoos. It seems her eyebrows have advanced past the borders normal set by the face's non-aggression pact. Usually I can see a girl's natural beauty hidden under fat/tattoos and such but yoof, this one is brutal

>>65005215
wow such cool
dont care

>>65002861
thats not "bad QC" you dumb fuck. they have to be hand fitted because not all AR's have the same tolerance.

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how interesting. The ARHK is way more dynamic than I thought

>>65007310
>She'd struggle to be attractive
I just hope none of this gets back to her. I have enough compassion that I don't want her feelings hurt, regardless of the candor. I feel she will ragret more that that horrible chest tattoo, in the coming years.

>>65007443
Anon I'm talking about the Regulator itself having wildly varying dimensions from unit to unit. That is the textbook definition of a QC issue.

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Looks like ARC V2 will support 4 position?

>>65010545
wonder if they are partnering with stuff n things

I've been under a rock. My MP5SD has a ASD lower with a generic SS in it. What does the Arc v2 offer over the v1? I'm inclined to stay with the ASD lower over the ARHK from ASD, because holy shit HK triggers suck.

>>65011181
arhk can be used in stock mp5 lowers

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>>65011181
V2 will offer more selector options, have 45 degree options and apparently slightly stronger?

https://youtu.be/7hRZ9_oiNPA

Juicy said smoother but that sounds like bullshit

Apparently 4 position option

>>65011214
>look at video
>everyone is mad about having bought a v1
That being said, the smart move would be for ASD to either accept returns for a trade in (and sell v1s at a rock bottom price), OR give v1 purchasers a coupon for like 50% off the v2.

anyone put a frt in an RXM? not sure which one to choose

Is there anywhere that has the tx22 in stock at a remotely not insane price?
The only possible thing I have found is a tx22compact for like 390 bucks, and at that point I may as well get the toro thing with the green dot I found on gubroker for like 650 as there is minimal compatibility with the compact from what I have read, and I don't see the prices changing but it seems like bullshit to buy at they price

>>65003218
My launch day duality vector is still fucked so no.

>>65011799
wow these really went up in price

>>65001852
>Thompson FRTs is released
Where?

>>65012031
>supply vs. demand
It's like an eco nom nom icks thang.

>>65012615
Released by Kinetic Crossfire

https://youtu.be/CQaQhBUHtGc

there is also an install video

>>65011799
https://gunprime.com/products/taurus-tx22-gen-2-toro-4-6-22lr-barrel-3-16rd-mags-2-22rd-mags-110817

Anyone know the exact date for the Arc v2 release?

>>65012802
early april

>>65012679
Hahah fuck me, I have been checking for awhile now and actually found one for 400 (still the 5 mag version at least) but damn of course me buying it triggered an in stock wave. Thanks for sharing that though

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Duality Arms Co 12G AK FRT in development

>>65012975
Should I expect this to work with my saiga?

>>65012983
probably not since it seems like he's developing it only for that gun, but it's possible that it would with fitting or something. You could ask him on IG

anything for a B&T GHM 9? thx in advance

>>65012990
East Valley Tactical has a service that allows lowers to work with the Rarebreed trigger and uses their safety to allow usage in the OEM lower.

ASDesigns is working on it as a separate lower to allow function with a super safety or ARC selector, this is not yet released.

ammjsolutions sells a GHM9 FRT mod kit that allows for Rarebreed FRT

Please check the github link the OP for footage

>>65012923
Ok I'm less mad now at least the more expensive people had my FFL on file while the others did not, and since he is a kitchen one he can be sometimes hard to reach so there is some amount of time / money wasted getting a hold of him versus just being done with it all.
That said, what is the go to solution these days?
I got the optics ready version, and I know some people need extra weight on the slide, and there is some discussion on the frt causing wear on the gun, is it Worth 3d printing a ton myself to replace as needed of buy one of these v7 things that are apparently an odd design (although the company who designed is currently not selling apparently?)
Also best weight kit or any other accessories to buy? Seems some people like muffin top?

>>65014265
there seems to be a lot of options like metal striker housings some have weight on the back to slow down fire rate etc

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Looks like there's a G36 FRT on the way that isn't just an AR15 fire control group stuck into a 3d printed lower. He claims it works in factory H&K packs and is 3 position.

>>65014772
wow that's cool, do you have a source? I'd like to update the github list with it

>>65014799
He's on Twitter. I think it's B Squared Manufacturing or something. The same guy doing the P90 FRT that is a drop in pack.

There's a video on there of the G36 and it's pretty sweet looking.

>>65014836
oh nice, looks like he's making one for the ump as well, I'll update the list with this information. Thanks for the heads up

>>65014772
now I need to know what is the best way to get a g36, convert one? tommy built is out of the question. I know you can buy a receiver and build that or something as well

>>65014889
Either you buy a parts kit for thousands of dollars and a S5 Tactical receiver or you buy a prebuilt S5 Tactical S36 gun and slowly replace the US made parts with HK over time.

>>65014892
man that sounds annoying but the latter is probably the best option, I'll consider it

>>65014896
For what its worth the S5 built G36 clones seem to actually run decent compared to the Tommybuilt contraptions.

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>>65014265
the one I was talking about earlier

https://cicadaresearch.com/products/tx22-tombstone-1-3oz-threaded-weighted-backplate-rate-reducer

the FRT design has changed over time

>>65014265
>>65015014
something to add is all tx22 trips from my understanding damages the striker plate over time, the v7 damages it less. I would buy a replacement plate to swap out the oem one and run the FRT with new plate.

>>65015014
>>65015046
Thanks for that, I see they claim the v7, I assume it's no different than the v7 from odd that talks about how everyone else selling it are bad and we shouldn't buy from them (despite their site not accepting orders apparently? https://www.oddmfgllc.com/blank-2

>>65015352
response from cicadaresearch

>I sell a design that is made by ODD MFG (to be clear, it’s in no way produced by them) that reduces wear to the slide, some FRTs are shaped in a way that actually damages the slide internals and will result in the gun not firing. Some FRT sellers also don’t do the proper finishing process, most people get these laser cut so they come with some pretty insane burrs. They need to be deburred and polished to prevent damage as well. Ultimately, this finishing process is what you’re paying for, so don’t buy any that don’t looks deburred and polished. Mine are both, and I use a magnetic pin polisher to get a nice satin finish on the part as well. Purely aesthetic, but I think it may polish the edges that contact the slide parts a bit more as well.

I have purchased from them before, they are g2g

>>65015368
Noted, thanks.

>>65014923
thanks, I'll consider it

>>65012975
I have a Saiga 12 and 2 20 rnd drums for that.

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I want a 90/180 "normal" three position frt. Which one is going to be the most durable long-term? Obviously hard to tell atm but I'm leaning towards the arcfire because it doesn't use any springs. But it uses a clutch somehow? This sort of thing would probably be easy for me to figure out if I could look at them in person but I don't know anyone who has one. Halp. Clingy goat pic for your pleasure.

>>65015677
I personally think the ARC fire is the best on the market, there are easier solutions that are pure drop in, cassette or solutions that do not require trigger cutting though.

V1 already lasts thousands of rounds but the V2 is even stronger according to s3igu2, developer

https://youtu.be/P3Ws0mIWpfE

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>>65015677
No clutch or spring loaded friction mechanism. No springs at all actually. Mine has been very durable. The exact same rifle and setup that broke 3x Atrius levers has done 2000rnds with my V1 Arc-fire with me intentionally PINNING the trigger to the rear HARD trying to lock it up, and it works flawlessly assuming you have enough gas in the system. The Arc-fire V2 will have a 90/180 version.

>>65015828
are you interested in the V2 at all?

>>65014772
that's rad
I wonder if it'd work in a stock sl8 too

>>65002465
>Trigger reset itself is barely noticeable on "FA," felt like I had a legit A1
So are you guys still insisting that the ATF definition of FRTs is correct? You know, that agency which is infamously retarded and constantly fucking things up. Or do you still get really mad when someone points out that functional full auto with one extra unnoticeable step should still be defined as full auto?

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>>65016320
>get really mad
It legitimately follows the LETTER OF THE LAW.

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>>65015845
Absolutely. I am super curious about the utility of the 45/90 and 45/180 deg throw setups. I've not completely finished the experiment but I have initial results that I'm relatively confident in which is that throwing the V1 lever all the way to the 180 position absolutely eats up around 0.09s-0.11s or so DIFFERENTIAL on a read up drill vs flipping to semi in the 90 degree position, and given that most people's bill drill ROF on semi results in say 0.11s splits AT BEST and 800-900rpm cyclic FRT or machinegun corresponds to 0.06s splits, it requires at least 3x shots for the FRT/MG to be equal to or beat the hit factor of a 90 degree flip semi auto, meaning for shot strings of 1 or 2x rounds, assuming the same standards of accuracy are achievable, a 90 degree semi auto beats out a 180 degree FRT/MG.

But this is why the 45/90 V2 interests me is that it might result in the FRT/MG beating out semi auto in terms of hit factor for shorter shot strings down to 1s even because IME the additional ~0.10s of flipping to 180deg vs 90 deg is due to the "two vector" motion that needs to occur, while if you're just going to 45/90 it isn't two separate motions, it is the same motion for both positions, just less amplitude of actuation, so I think the time split will be significantly less if there at all.

>>65016602
seems pretty robust

Does anyone know if the gmr ar10 super safety works with the psa sabre10a1?

>>65016320
Why are you angry, exactly?

>>65017142
I think if the dimensions are good

>*The lower rear section of the bolt carrier must measure 2.20"+- in order for the Safety to work correctly. Using a 2.40"+- BCG can damage or break the lever. The upper receiver must be trimmed flush with the rear take down lug to give the lever the proper clearance. This is not a "drop in" part. We do not accept returns for modified parts.

>>65016320
kys fed

>>65016320
>noooooooo you can't just comply with the law exactly how its written to highlight its utter stupidity noooooo

>>65016602
Brother you don't need to compose a 30 page equation, everybody already knows full fun is better and there is 0 reason not to have it.

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>>65017581
>full fun is better
That isn't true though in the broadest sense, and the experiment I'm working on is precisely trying to quantify for what situations full auto or facsimile full auto is superior to semi auto.
>0 reason not to have it
I more or less agree.

>>65017611
are you taking a precision shot?
semi-auto
anything else?
leave it on full

I expect my check to be in the mail

>>65017617
>field analysis required
I'll need a sponsor.

>>65016215
He said it will.

>>65016320
What's your point? No seriously I have no idea what your intent is.

>>65017991
That FRTs are most accurately described as full auto. It's great that the ATF decided otherwise, but they're simply wrong. If Eugene Stoner had for some odd reason decided to patent an FRT for the AR, he'd have called it a machine gun and there'd be no debate on this today.

>>65018108
Okay? And?

>>65018108
>speculation about inside a dead man's mind from 60yrs ago leaves no room for discussion
Yeah.

>>65018108
a trigger pull is a trigger pull, fed. cry about it.

>>65018108
>If Eugene Stoner had for some odd reason decided to patent an FRT for the AR, he'd have called it a machine gun and there'd be no debate on this today.
How could you possible know this? Are you off some medication you need to be on or are you just extremely autistic and have bizarre fixations that don't translate well to neurotypical lines of thought?

>>65018108
The trigger resets each round. Cry more Boomer. Your machine gun collection is worth less and less as more FRTs come out

>>65018108
okay weird but I'm more confused why you are seething over this instead of laughing about how retarded this makes the ATF and their regulations out to be

>>65018108
You're a faggot that owns a transferable lower, aren't you!?

>>65018112
And people are so enraged by this obvious truth that they're calling me a fed within two minutes of posting it. No arguments to be found of course. Oh, up to five replies now, let's go for the high score!

>>65018108
So you don't know the history of FRTs, don't know the history of the NFA or the GCA, you don't know our current laws, and don't know anything about Eugene Stoner. Why comment at all? Sit down and read a book, zoomie.

>>65018128
Big, if true. But, it's not. $37,000 Thompsons from 1928 will not go down in value. It is pointless to assert that.

>>65018144
People genuinely don't know why you're butthurt over it or why you think you have a point. It's a totally senseless argument. What is your angle here?
>FRTS ARE ACTUALLY A LOT MORE LIKE FULLAUTO
Yes? Like, that's the point? Who are you arguing against?

>>65018144
oh no he's just a schizo, damn

The ATF is in this thread, fucking SEEEETHING.

>>65018159
>Who are you arguing against?
He argues with his own conscience and he's winning! Happens all the time.

>>65018149
For point for the Thompson until someone makes triggers for the clones. No point in buying an M16 lower now due to FRTs and it could happen for Thompsons

>>65018173
>for point
Fair*

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>>65018173
>No point in buying an M16 lower now due to FRTs
The prices are plummeting, the FA market has been impacted hard by FRTs, and the leader of the lizard people did the fusion dance with Hilary Clinton to create a new race to be the new-new ruling class over the existing ruling class.

>>65018173
>>65018178
Doubt. There will always be a collectability market (finish). Absolutely true that form and function will be indistinguishable.

>>65018184
>leader of the lizard people did the fusion dance with Hilary Clinton to create a new race to be the new-new ruling class over the existing ruling class.
This I believe. Like when the human race was genetically manipulated by the reptoids on October 17th through November 21st in 120,746 BC. Poor Neanderthals. F and shit.

>>65018108
The ATF never decided otherwise, it was the courts. The ATF absolutely tried to classify them as machine guns and would ban them if they could. They went after rare greed and them losing is what allowed us to be where we are with this renaissance of cool shit for guns.

>>65018197
>we are with this renaissance of cool shit for guns
Agreed. Enjoy it while you can.

>>65017983
hell yeah

>>65018203
We'll have had 5+ years of mass proliferation before they have a chance to federally ban anything, not to mention current cases on the docket challenging the NFA. Bondi's an absolute cunt, and whatever dem that follows her will be worse, but good fucking luck with the millions of super safeties that have proliferated

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Get hyped

>>65018144
>And people are so enraged by this obvious truth
nigger what the actual fuck are you talking about? where do you see anyone here angry that FRTs mimic FA almost perfectly, it's because they do that this thread even exists. fuck off schizo.

>>65019124
I'm not a schizo, got dogpiled a while back for arguing this. Seems more people ITT accept reality now though so that's good.
>mimic FA almost perfectly
Nothing you are consciously doing is making the gun run at its cyclic rate, and as you say, that's the whole point. That your muscles are pulling the trigger is irrelevant, as they are needed to hold down a standard machine gun trigger as well. Therefore a well designed FRT doesn't just mimic FA, it is FA. A poorly designed one, maybe not so much.

>>65019293
buddy you actually need help, you are screaming at nothing

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>>65019293
>doesn't just mimic FA, it is FA
You're a soi redditor faggot tranny or a woman. Any man with an ounce of mechanical inclination can clearly understand the fundamental and immutable difference between an FRT and an MG.
Get fucked.

>>65017617
>anything else
It isn't so simple and I'm excited for the data to potentially show this.

Glock frts worth a shit yet

>>65019490
I think they are fun, but requires technique to run. It's not as intuitive as a ar15 FRT. If you pull to hard, it chokes up and you need to learn sweet spots and trigger pressure to run it well. With several spring tuning and replacing, I got it to run super well suppressed and unsuppressed in my glock 34 among all my friends and it's a blast to shoot.

If you want a pistol FRT that would run with little to no technique, I would suggest the tx22

>>65019507
Im looking to put one in my 34 with a flux brace i just remember last time i asked the early ones were bad

>>65019700
they are the same today, there has not been any advancement on the glock FRT. The P320 FRT looks promising though, it doesnt use tilting barrel to reset the trigger so it should be more reliable.

>>65017142
https://www.reddit.com/r/AR10/comments/1rq669o/fullsemi_308_working_on_sig_716i_without/
Looks like the 716i works without modification, so I guess a follow up question is what does everyone think of the sig716i?

>>65020189
that's cool to know, I dont have experience with this gun but I would imagine it would work the same as a PSA, if I wanted a solution that works, I would just get the Sig apparently.

If you're willing to wait, there are other companies working on AR-10 solutions as well, but if you can't wait, then why not.

>>65017142
>>65020189
maybe check this out?

https://old.reddit.com/r/supersafety/comments/1s67dsd/pa10_with_gmr_ss/

>Had to remove some material from the trigger pocket and a lottttt from the lip of the upper receiver.

My as designs mp5 lower came in and the box came with two little allen keys, but it also has a silver screw that I didn't see where it would go, does anyone have any ideas?

>>65022347
I believe this is for the ejector, my buddy has my lower atm so I can't check

>>65022371
That's probably it, but my back plate is a crazy tight fit so not gonna take it off to verify, but that puts my mind at ease, thanks

Beretta CX4 FRT is available now for preorder, it's a 4-5 week wait

https://brellosolutions.us/products/beretta-cx4-storm-forced-reset-trigger

There are some modifications needed

Also they are working on the PMX so I'll put that on the github list as well

>>65018173
Triggers are made for the clones, as pointed out earlier in the thread. The problem is that the clones are overpriced dogshit that jam even on semi-auto.

>>65006177
Would

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>>65005215
>M.A.K.G.A
Horrible name choice considering Mr MAGA himself banned bump stocks without a second thought. Would be really funny if he decided to go Boomer mode again and try banning FRTs too. I'd say hopefully these people learn some day but it seems they love the rape.

>>65023791
based

>>65002664
only ones I've seen have been for 3d printed lowers and rely on thin plates that wear out after 10 30rnd mags under the best of circumstances

>>65024410
a new reliable design is in beta currently

Thinking about putting together another AR build - maybe a sbr this time. Thoughts on a super safety on a sbr?

>>65024431
I have 2 SBRs with ARC fire in them

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KM3Solutions is working on a trip for the matador 9 uppers

SKS FRT will be avaliable for preorder April 20th by Texas Trigger USA

https://texastriggerusa.com/product/norinco-sks-7-62x39-frt/

Footage
https://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/Footage/SKSFRT.mp4

New P320 FRT footage

https://youtu.be/Q2A9eJjAgeY

EVT now has their conversion service available

https://www.eastvalleytactical.com/product/genesis-arms-gen-12-pds-frt-conversion-service

Footage
https://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/Footage/Genesis-Gen-12.mp4

Any AUGtists in here? I'm thinking about buying one soon and I'm definitely interested in FRTing it. How does that Red Star Palmetto trigger differ (if it does) from the AUGFRT dot com one

>>65027189
>Norinco
>Not Yugo
Well, happy for Norinco havers but hopefully other variants get their shine in the game.

>>65018860
Hold up. Are those the options? What happened to the 45/90/180 lever?

>>65023771
There is someone for everyone, anon.

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>>65027319
if you mean the 4 position

>>65027327
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
>Id be on the lookout over the next few days
So will the 4 position be immediately available, or do I have to wait?

>>65027335
sense I dont see it on the site, probably later

https://activesafetydesigns.com/ar15/

>>65027344
>sense
damn I'm retarded, I meant since

>>65027344
Well fuck. Now I'm not sure if I should immediately grab a 45/90 for my MP5 so I can be at the front of the line, or risk waiting for the 4 position which may or may not come out later.

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>>65027212
More options for the Gen-12, looks like ARC support is coming soon, requires a modified lever

beats paying 900 dollars and modifying the gun itself imo

>>65027577
>>65027212
something else to add is that the EVT service uses a ARC anyways so that's wild if ASDesigns sells the lever

Seems like there is a huge amount of platforms with FRT support with a lot in development. Anything you guys are specifically shooting for?

>>65027638
Three position P365, 1911, G19 and clones, Keltec sub2k, rfb, rdb, cp33, p50, I know some are already in development. If someone could make a Beretta 92 kit that looked like the 93 and gave it burst fire it would sell like a pound of nuts

>>65027688
3 position is pretty tough since a new selector would have to be designed but yeah it would be cool

>>65027688
p50 kinda already have 3 position FRT support with the stuff and things set

>>65027212
I thought I had seen info that you can just drop in a 308 lever and be good to go?
Obviously the arc lever complicates things but surely that's something they would sell?

>>65027173
This is cool, I went with a generic ar9 due to this reason but I would love one of these uppers

>>65027638
Get the SS to work with the BRP semi MG42 grip. It's already got a AR FCG with a push pin safety, and people have managed to adapt rare greeds to work.

>>65028318
that would be dope

Desk pop's video on the UMP GDI SS lower

https://youtu.be/o9B3MifKSV0

>>65028032
SS/FRT 308 is still not a solved thing seemingly, grey market is the only 308 super safety and it works for hyper specific bolts and uppers

>>65018173
Nah, they will hold value the same way military surplus holds value. i.e. via being the real deal, genuine article.

There will always be collectors with money who wish to buy a real actual Thompson SMG that isnt cucked and is a true unmolested full auto gun.

Its the stuff like the pre 86' beat to shit AR-15 lowers that are registered that have been repaired and been through like 10 owners that are going to nose dive in value.

Transferable MG's with true historical significance, like Thompsons, MP40s, etc will hold value.

No one is gonna want to pay $25k for a lightning link or AR lower though.

Do binary triggers count? What's going on with this binary trigger court case in the midwest and does it affect FRTs?

>>65030983
what do you mean by count?

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>>65031500
I mean do they count for being in the topic of this thread

>>65032624
no. there's an incredibly niche use case for binaries now that FRT's exist

>>65030983
Dunno why anyone would consider binary triggers these days, and they were pretty lame even before the SS and FRT became big

>>65032677
wrong. they were actually pretty neat before. but yeah they are almost entirely obsolete now.

>>65032677
They're legal in more places than FRTs
Also the 2 shot burst is superior to the 3 shot burst

>>65003005
your alternative is an original for $30,000

>>65017611
>>65017617
>there is one end all be all answer for when full auto should be used
its extremely dependent on the gun used, the recoil, the firing rate, how much it weighs/its stability, etc.
you can absolutely do precision shooting on full auto but it needs certain requirements
like an ar15 isnt as good in full auto for accuracy as an mp5 or a suomi, nor will it be as accurate as a pkm or an mg3
and a 650 rpm ar15 will perform better than a 750 rpm ar15

excited to drop 500 dollars this friday

>>65034244
Do we know exactly when ASD will start taking orders?

>>65035848
3pm est iirc

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>>65034244
>>65035992
According to arfcom the arc fire v2 release has been pushed back by a week.

>>65036768
you got to be kidding me, source?

>>65036768
yesterday was lie day friendo

>>65036452
Sauce on this? I've been hoping forever for one

>>65036942
@advancedresettech on IG

Can anyone who uses an frt tell me about it?
It seems like functionally, it’s fully auto but is there a catch?
Do you have to utilize a technique or is it really as simple as just squeezing the trigger and letting the rounds rip?

This shop has services to modify the selectors for cassette FRTs to remove the grip screw

https://datummachine.com/product-category/safety-selectors/forced-reset-safety-selectors/

>>65036996
>It seems like functionally, it’s fully auto but is there a catch?
it's not full auto.
The catch is most FRTs will malfunction if you pull too hard and there are usually requirements for the lower to work

>Do you have to utilize a technique or is it really as simple as just squeezing the trigger and letting the rounds rip?
Depends on the platform, AR based are very intuitive and doesnt require technique in my opinion. Pistol based FRTs like glock for example, does require technique.

>>65036996
The early cassette type drop in triggers used to be pretty finicky (like the original rare breed/WOT triggers) but new versions work pretty much normally. There's several different styles of "forced reset" depending on the platform. AR's have the most development, followed by AK's and MP5. Modern offerings for both are pretty much gimmick free it just werks - IF - you have the gun setup/tuned appropriately.
FRT's are available or being developed for a ton of other platforms too, finickyness varies.

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>>65036805
>>65036863
https://activesafetydesigns.com/ar15/arc-fire-trigger-v2-ambi-kit-0-45-180/

>>65037398
I am quite annoyed

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>>65037419
According to this arfcom thread, the arhk asd will put out will be $550.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/AS-Designs-ARHK/130-792725/?page=5#i8783114

>>65037431
pretty reasonable and cheaper than the rarebreed

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>>65037431
So what's the consensus? I've got an ASD lower with a standard SS on my MP5, and I love it. Should I go for an ARC v2 (probably with the 0/45/90setup), or the ARHK to put it in my OG lower?

>>65039508
if you like everything currently, dont buy anything else

Wanting to get a PSA M16A1 do you guys know any good 3 position FRT’s that i can just swap out the stock trigger and get my super semi auto?

>>65040072
Partisan FRT

>>65040079
Partisan is a cassette trigger, it comes with its own hammer.
>>65040072
that's not how it works. All the cassette style FRT's replace the original hammer, trigger and selector.
Super Safeties you can technically cut almost any trigger to work (sone exceptions) and otherwise only have to replace the selector itself.
ARC selector likewise requires a cut trigger.
ARZ is more "drop in" but again, requires a specific trigger and selector

>>65040093
I probably should’ve worded it differently
I meant just replace the entire trigger group not just a part or two

I was thinking about getting a rare breed but I’ve not heard good things about them and their triggers are like $500

>>65040101
oh gotcha. I haven't personally tried the disruptor but yeah it's essentially the same thing but without the IYKYK tax and questionable legal pursuits

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Boop

Kalash Bash TX 2026 is the April 10th

More info regarding the CMR30 FRT from Advanced Reset Tech from their IG

https://kg2g.github.io/FRTINFO/Footage/CMR30ART.mp4

looks like asdesigns finally updated their production page

https://activesafetydesigns.com/production-status/

>>65046008
For the love of fuck ASD, literally all you have to do is hire more people. Everything is already perfect except for the abysmal customer support and shipping times.

>>65046051
They also need a new sample shop or something, they are getting tons of delays because of that

>>65001852
What’s the go to for an AP5-P now?
I know there’s a leber v2 but I’m not sure if that’s the most updated version or where to go for the best deal if it is

>>65046804
Leber V2 is still very good, currently people run the ASDesigns mp5 lowers but also many are waiting for the drop in HK trigger asdesigns is working on

>>65046804
also check the github link the OP, it has a list of options

>>65046051
Yeah I ordered an SP5 SS lower from them early last May. It was supposed to ship by the end of June but then there was something wrong with their design so they delayed it to July. Then they had problems with their machine shop so they delayed it until the end of July. Then they had more problems with their machine shop and it got delayed until September when it finally arrived. Like fuck Rarebreed and good for AS Designs for fighting them but I really don't want to give a company money who has so much fucking delays and they just supersede and replace their designs a few months later all while they keep designing weird and obscure super safeties for guns nobody asked for and nobody owns. It's like salt in the wound when you see them posting about BRN-180, CMMG Dissent, AP53, PSA Jakl, Springfield Kuna and B&T APC super safeties while you're still waiting on your basic bitch MP5 or AR-15 one like 3 months after you were supposed to get it

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Looks like they were able to get the FRT for the TP9 working, range footage soon

>>65049060
But that's not a Mac11/9.

>>65049323
https://youtu.be/dpzYat-4oqQ

>>65049351
Yo, dat muther fuckfucker got dat bitch up in dare no probs, fr fr! Is the Defender part for part compatable with the Cobray? And who makes the Twitch FRT?

12 Gauge IMG Upper SS footage

https://youtu.be/TA4ISyXWNAs

>>65049369
https://youtu.be/vScrwoDWfBY

looks like poorboyarms got it from someone named toadlicker

the files are available for print and advanced reset tech is making a metal version at some point

Be careful though, this is still in beta and OOB can occur

>>65049393
>>65049369
correction, looks like poorboy arms printed it himself, toadlicker made the design that you can print

>>65049398
>>65049393
>>65049369
actually one more correction, he didnt print it himself, he got it from here

https://1441recoilsystems.com/product/rip-mac-v2/

>>65049410
One more correction, I would never buy from a dude named Toadlicker, Snake or Jennifer. But I will check the link.

>>65049425
>check the link.
OOS.

Anyone following the ARHK frt, was it ever mentioned if it would work with the g3 training bolt and DAG ammo? Being able to swap the lower between my ptr91, training ammo, and ptr32 might get me ro pick one up.

>>65049685
I do not believe that is confirmed although they havent released any statements about potential bolt issues

Bros I just shot super safety from AS DESIGNS. My mind is fucking blown. Daaaamn. Shit. I never experienced a sensation like this

>>65049759
nice one, what host did you use?

>>65049767
I have a V Seven lower ‘enlightened’, I had it all installed this Friday, ARC fire trigger ambi kit, but it didn’t work. It was like semi fire, and occasional trigger was stuck. I then added lever blocker to it and that did the trick. Shit i just shot one mag, I couldn’t believe it. I never shot auto but I can’t image it’s much different than this

>>65049798
yeah you need the lever blocker for any trigger that has a tail-less hammer like geissele. Nice that it works! I'll actually considered a V Sever lower for a build but I was uncertain of the shelf.

>>65049809
Ye. I’m glad I figured it out. I still don’t fully understand how it all works. I’m starting to think I need to buy like 5 of these. I know dog fuckers are coming after them, if not now then soon. It’s just too fucking cool. Now I need to figure out how to FRT a Kuna.

>>65050127
according to the github list in the OP

The Kuna requires a separate lower and trip from Nexus Firearms and ASDesigns is also working on a lower.

>>65050158
Appreciate it bro. May you get every pussy you want and they come back for more

>>65017611
Lmao I expect nothing less from an AR tripfag.

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>>65018108
Who gives a rat's fucking ass what Eugene hypothetically would say?

I'm outta this thread. Y'all niggas dumb as fuck.

>>65050315
no problem!

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ARHK With the navy ambi selectors in a SEF Housing

This will sell super well especially since it works on all HKs

I'm okay with the metal normal lower with a ARC, but I have to admit, it's pretty sweet.

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>>65050944
It's cool for getting the 100% accurate setup, but my complaint is that HK triggers suck ass compared to a good AR trigger.

>>65051992
the most autistic among us would take issue with the selector screw and would pay more for the RB because of that

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What an interesting thing to type, twice in fact.

Related to SS, how do you avoid roller dents on a MP5 with an ASD lower? I just got mine, and I don't want to fuck anything up.

>>65052887
you'd get dents if your fire rate is too high, you would need to swap locking pieces to avoid that

>TFW I just bought a Raregreed FRT-RD3 (AMBI) that was in stock for only minutes
Cassettes are the new hotness.

Can anyone post a link to the best CMMG trip for a .22LR SuperSafety AR-15? Preferably on the odd sea. I'd like one that is a single piece, doesn't require overmolding a piece of beer can, and can take tungsten weights in holes.

>>65053373
a trip wouldnt have weights in it

>>65053373
borebuddy in my opinion has the best stuff but from my understanding these are what you're looking for

https://guncadindex.com/detail/cmmg-22lr-anti-bounce-weight-and-sear-trip-model_files:5

https://guncadindex.com/detail/TripsV3:1

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Worthy tee? Atrius getting cocky.

>>65053596
if at least part of the fees went to hoffman, that would be cool

>>65053296
hope it works out!

>>65053533
Thanks! The first one is exactly what I've been trying to find.

>>65053602
Atrius has their own battle going on. I think Partisan is the only one that's going at this lawsuit correctly; they are forcing a reexam of one of the core patents in an attempt to invalidate it.

Hoffman's lawyers are just kinda flailing around and saying "nuh-uhhhh!" when they ought to be trying to kill the 748 patent (which I think is the one Partisan is attacking). The next best thing would be to ask for a stay until the reexam of 748 is completed, which is an iffy thing to be granted since they aren't parties to the reexam, but with all the cases just being ordered to be consolidated into a single jurisdiction, that still may be a possibility.

The 247 patent is not literally infringed; RB will have to ask for one of the key limitations to be "interpreted" in their favor, or to be tossed in under Doctrine of Equivalents -- the one about not catching the disconnector hook (Super Safety catches but then releases it). Both are stretches, IMHO, especially since that patent discusses holding against the disconnector, not the trigger.

The really old method patent, 723, expired around September 25, 2025, and Rare Breed was enjoined from selling their product during most of the relevant period (they were stuck under an injunction from the NYC lawsuit, looks like it was lifted on May 16, 2025, so they were only allowed to sell product for four months of its validity, and it's arguable that they can only collect damages on products sold during those four months since the rest of the time didn't economically harm them).

The only one that can seriously fuck Hoffman is the 748 patent. His attorneys really need to get tied in to that reexamination.

>>65053751
you can also get it here

https://greymarketresearch.net/ar22lr-bolt-weight/

Having a problem with an ARC fire MP5 setup. Pre-built ASD lower on an MKE AP5-P. The ARC setting worked great for about half a magazine, then started behaving exactly like normal semi. I field stripped the gun, everything looked normal, so I reassembled. Got a shorter string of ARC shots and then back to semi. Not sure what’s happening. The selector movement feels sloppy, but no reliability problems are occurring or anything. I saw someone online claim that you have to use loctite and a bunch of force on the ambi selector screws. That seems like a risky move that could totally brick the lower if you get it slightly wrong, the loctite seizes, and then the screw heads strip out when you attempt disassembly. Any thoughts?

>>65053861
if you have the earlier versions of the lower, people reported issues with the ejector or something, could be that?

https://youtu.be/_BLrpzctyk8

What trigger are you using? if it's a Geissele make sure you have the lever blocker

since you're using a p, you shouldnt need a buffer or the hammer rounded

just dartboarding here but you should email asdesigns

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Someone got a super safety to work on the 3D printed 1911 pdw lower

Cool advancement in the 3D2A space, I hope this extends to other platforms like glock or ruger.

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Looking to recreate this vibe anons. So far I'm thinking AP5-P Navy and ARHK, then paying for the good-boy stamp for the foregrip. I have not into Form 1 nor MP5 before; anything I should know so I don't get a hole in my door/dog?

>>65054000
nice trips

not really, form 1 is free and pretty easy to do to be honest. Make sure you get it engraved after approval

>>65052807
>308
Hold up so can we expect that to launch on the 10th? This is all news to me

>>65054004
no, 4th position and 308 lever are both in the works. That was just a teaser

>>65054005
>let's release an Arc v2 and liss everyone who had a v1 off
>let's IMMEDIATELY announce a v3 before the v2 is even out
What the fuck are these clowns doing?

>>65054000
You don’t want the AP5-P if you’re trying to clone that exact look because the -P has the threaded barrel. I think the one you want is called the -M or -N. Might need to source a navy lower separately for those, though.

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>>65054003
>form 1 is free
>just pay a million bucks to get it engraved by a professional after the govt gives you the ok

>>65054439
it's not a v3

>>65054648
it's $50 where I live

>>65054439
ARC V2 isn't released yet

>>65019293
>Yes I will use a layman's definition of full auto when it suits me and the legal definition of full auto when it suits me
>No I will not make it clear when I am doing these things because my entire argument is predicated on confusing these definitions
retard

>>65054648
it's way cheaper than you think, also you can technically do it yourself

>>65054648
>form 1
humiliation ritual

>>65053948
This is neat but it got me thinking, what would the trip be? How the SS works is that the trigger rides a ramp as the cam moves to safety when the lever moves back, then when the lever moves back, the cam allows the trigger to move to fire. On a AR, the trip is on the bolt. What would move the lever forward on this?

>>65054985
the slide?

>>65054993
the slide is pushing the lever back yeah to safe, but what is pushing the lever forward to fire?

>>65054997
the slide again? In an AR-15 super safety the bcg moves the lever in both directions

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>>65055002
I dont understand how the slide is moving the lever forward when it's in front of the lever. I would imagine you need something behind it. On an AR bolt, that would be the trip.

That's why for super safe you need a FA bolt

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>>65055006
Yes, that is what I mean. Look at the bottom of a 1911 slide, there's plenty of space to put a a lever that is actuated in both directions.
Don't take my word for it though the literal very first FRT patent (from 1936) is for a 1911.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US2056975A/en

>>65055026
ah I see, something that is unique to 1911s then

Very interesting. Thanks for the insight.

>>65055047
which maybe I am misunderstanding your question. In an AR-15 super safety the cam itself works as the disconnector sear. It's only the rearward stroke which actually resets the trigger (same as the 1911 FRT), the bolt returning forward only disengages the disconnector.
Difference on the 1911 is that the disconnector is a separate component.