ARC V2 this Friday!

If FRTs are (obviously) not legally considered machine guns, where's the lawsuits to strike down laws that ban them in some states?

>>65061517
Quite a bit of the states that inadvertently ban them do so because they had knee jerk bump stock bans of which the language encompasses what a FRT does.
Florida has suits

>>65061517
there's states that ban flash hiders and bayonet lugs, whats your point?

https://www.instagram.com/p/DW634yNDjtE/

after delaying the P90 FRTs a week because the precut foam used to package them was late to arrive, FN Specialties decided just to ship them packaged in plastic bags like a normal company

>>65063597
at least they are shipping, a lot of people have received emails

>>65063603
Just January 20th orders today apparently. I ordered on the 21st and I haven't gotten a notification yet

>>65063609
I ordered the 20th and didnt get an email yet

>>65063552
FRTs were determined to be not machine guns by applying the Cargill decision yet it still seems like gun rights groups are still dragging their feet when it comes to suing states that ban them (and bumpstocks) outright

>>65064405
so what? State restrictions supercede any less restrictive federal laws. That's how the US works. You never noticed how there's a different version of everything for California?

ARC V2 releases today and khalash bash is today

>>65061000
so 90-180 is normal, 45-90 would be if you want supersafe as your default, and 45-180 is what you get when the first 2 are sold out right?

Just saw this https://marstrigger.com/1022-f-r-t looks really tempting. I've already got a ar15 22 setup working just fine, but I a 10/22 would be neat

>>65064711
Pretty much. 45 90 is also ideal for MP5s.

>>65064733

seems to work well

https://youtu.be/Cu9_gjXwtI8

The ART version that was released a while ago was supper finicky, this one seems more reliable as it is a trigger, not just a bar

So is there anything special about the Arc that makes it $250? Like does it do anything a regular SS doesn't.

>>65064913
no, it only matters if you want a traditional lever/selector

>>65064405
Most effort from gun rights groups is to eliminate state AWB's and registration schemes, carry bans and NFA restrictions,.in that order. It took years for brace ban and bump stock ban to get overturned

>>65064733
Advanced reset designs is making a selectable FRT for the 10/22 I'd wait and just buy a tx22 in the meantime for some brrrt

>>65065063
>Advanced reset designs is making a selectable FRT for the 10/22

source? I've been following them for a while and didnt know this

>>65064913
V2 is beefer than v1 which is slightly beefier than SS

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Looks like I was able to put in my order early? at 2:58 EST

looks like other vendors have them too

https://muffintoptactical.com/arc-fire-v2

I kind of want an ARC but I dont really *need* one and I already find my SS hard to control

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SCAR mentioned. This is cool since you wont be forced to by that fuck ass lower that's always out of stock

>they fell for the v2
>they didn't wait for the v3 that has 4 positions

>>65065482
I'll probably buy one of those for fun too, I'm not poor

>>65065482
>>65065483
also I dont think it's really a v4, just another option in the future

>>65061024
Sounds cool but my ar has a geiselle trigger and I don’t feel like dicing that up

>>65065068
What does this mean?

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>>65065498

>>65065514
Sounds like I should wait a little longer until frts mature. I’ve got a mk18 with a non ambi selector. Would LOVE one that could work as a 3 position selector and work with a geiselle trigger

>>65065526
you can do that today with many FRTs actually. ARC fire for a while can already do that cut a cut and geiselle support was just established with the Atrius and doesnt need a cut

>>65065533
https://atrius.dev/ambidextrous-forced-reset-selector-g-lever/

Is this the one you’re talking about? I would’ve preferred non ambi but apparently you don’t actually need an ambi lower to have a an ambi safety right? How does the atrius stack up to the arc fire? I read some not so flattering things about the steel and spring use but I’m not the structural engineer here

>>65065617
yeah, also there is a non ambi version

ARC is better overall, the lever often breaks on the atrius and that will not happen on the ARC implying you have a low shelf lower. There is now a non ambi version of the ARC V2 as well. Also if you dont want to cut your own trigger, they ofter precut triggers, but of course you can cut your own. Atrius requires no cut.

>>65065654
The trigger I want is out of stock :(

>>65065666
what trigger do you want?

>>65065670
I like the SSA-E

>>65065692
deeznuts tactical sells them sometimes as well, check it out

https://deeznutztactical.com/product-category/arproducts/

it is currently out of stock as well though but there are options

>>65065699
You’ve been a great help, friend. Do you think now is the time to get an frt or is it better to allow more time for innovation?

>>65065752
sure no problem

>Do you think now is the time to get an frt or is it better to allow more time for innovation?

what features are you expecting? Honestly for me I get everything because at one stroke of a pen, this could be illegal in the future and impossible to get anymore

>>65065800
You’re making a great argument.

https://sonsoflibertygw.com/product/solgw-stripped-lower-rebellious-stripes-rollmark-blem/


I have the non blem version of this lower. If I get the ambi version of the arc will the selector markings on the lower safe/semi/auto correspond to safe/semi/arc? On the 0-90-180 right?

>>65065937
yes that is correct, just looked up to see their lower pocket. You should be good to go yeah, while you're at it, get a h2/h3 buffer. You generally need that for FRTs

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>>65065957
Damn, the fomo got me. I got the ambi arc v2 0-90-180 for that solgw lower with dd mk18 upper. I’ll have to wait for a cut geiselle trigger or maybe I’ll just use the one it came with. Thanks based anon

>>65066052
sure np anon, hope you have fun!

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G36 FRT update

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FRT capable stribog glock lower is available for print

Progressive Trigger AUG for preorder

https://www.redstarpalmetto.com/product/aug-p-frt-preorder/7QEI34RPPQ7YXIC6ZYNYQRFJ?cp=true&sa=true&sbp=false&q=false

>>65066189
Oh shit thats cool. So i'm guessing it won't require any sort of modification to the stock since it'll technically be 'on' all the time?

>>65066198
That was my logic as well, doesnt say on the page specifically though

>>65064913
To add to this, is this reliable for a shtf gun or is this just the realm of range toy shit?

>>65066247
if you mean the ARC then yeah. One of the weakest parts of an FRT is the fact that if you pull too hard, the gun will malfunction. This is because these devices aren't machine guns. There are however, reports from multiple people that the ARC will work when trigger is held. Reports from people in previous threads and from Micah

https://youtu.be/OmlZENo1P3s

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Drop in B&T FRT for SPC & GHM. APC is later

>Announcement AMMJ X Cloak Industries X Partezan Triggers 100% drop in B&T trigger for SPC & GHM… APC to follow. NO CUTTING Pre orders opening on cloak’s website. will update once n timing next week. Big thanks to shooters lane the range and store is amazing.

>>65066168
perfect for all 12 of the G36 owners in the US

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>>65066203
>>65066198
no hole needed

>>65066052
there are also precut here

https://mid-tierdefense.com/products/precut-ssa-e

>>65066539
S5's are $1800. If this releases and actually works, I will pick one up. I've read the S5's are a lot closer to real G36's than Tommy Built's clone's that cost three times as much and have great QC.

>>65066577
Man now I'm tempted. I don't even have an AUG

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>ARHK works in the mag pull housing, the selector doesn't line up with the markings tho.

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>>65068035
okay for real this time, where can I get one of these belt feds?

>>65061517
Let me rephrase your question:
"If abortion is not legally considered murder, where are the lawsuits to end abortion bans in all states?"

States are allowed to impose their own regulations. California can ban aluminized-mylar balloons because they short out powerlines. Texas can set the age of consent to 17 even though Arkansas allows sex at 16 -- and the Feds have made it illegal to take a girl across state lines to have sex in a lower age-of-consent jurisdiction (the famous "Mann Act").

You can bitch that any gun restriction is a violation of the Second Amendment, but states have been blatantly and severely violating the Second Amendment for at least the last 160 years (post-Civil War Jim Crow laws) and the courts have constantly been letting them get away with it until Heller, McDonald, and now Bruen.

Anyway, if you want to file a lawsuit against your state for violating your 2A rights over FRTs, please feel free. Nothing stops you except your ability to pay for lawyers to do it.

Meanwhile, lawsuits over magazine capacity, "assault weapons", registration requirements, handgun purchasing permits, and so on have been getting stonewalled by appeals courts and the Supreme Court. So good luck on the FRTs, which were ruled "not machineguns" because of the exact wording of "multiple bullets fired per a single trigger pull" but were NOT ruled "FRT ban laws violate the Second Amendment and therefore are unconstitutional".

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CMMG/SuperSafety question: for the antibounce weight slider thingies that take metal rod inserts, am I supposed to use steel rods or do I have to use tungsten rods? Wondering if I can just chop up some cheapo M5 (metric 5mm) bolts that I have on hand instead of having to go find a metals supply place that sells 5mm tungsten. Also, do I epoxy the metal rods in place or do they have to be free to slide?

>>65068598
for cmmg bolt and barrels, I dont think any of that matters because the bolt locks into the barrel iirc

>>65068605
>>65068598
I just realized you meant for 22lr. So tungsten is much heavier, that's the reason. If your build do not need that much weight then sure do steel rods. What's important is the amount of weight. The amount varies by suppressor, ammo etc...

>>65068598
>>65068615
also yeah epoxy them in place, you dont want the rods to fly around your trigger group

>>65068615
>>65068619
Thanks, I guess I'll try my cheap way first and see how it all works out. IDK even where to shop for 5mm tungsten rods that won't get me v&.

>>65068820
probably at mcmaster

>>65068820
Anywhere that sells welding supplies.

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>>65068035
https://x.com/s3igu2/status/2041122897465421948

>>65068475
That's the neat thing
You don't!

Most HK21's and 23's on GB and the like are either MG's or sear hosts north of 18k

You get your hands on a parts kit and commission one of ~4 builders to do it for you and it's going to be approaching $10k for the kit and the work combined but at least you can spread out the pain.

There are US parts manufacturers-particularly but not limited to the feed tray and parts.
PTR has the Portugese HK21 tooling... someone should ask them nicely to make some

>>65067985
S5 has a deal with HKparts rn where it's able to get lowers and furniture/accessories cheap - HK will be getting a sizable cut of their SG-36C's
They're going to be 3d printing the lowers soon as well

>>65070244
well damn

>>65068575
>Nothing stops you except your ability to pay for lawyers to do it.
And that you have to have sufferered damages as a result of the law, meaning you need to have been arrested

I can not believe there were no AK announcements at khalash bash. I am beyond disappointed. Why the fuck was atrius even there then?

>>65068873
All the welding rods I looked up (before I posted the breadfrog post) were either 3/16" or 1/8". The holes in these debouncing sliders are 5mm. 3/16 is small enough to fit but wastes something like 14% of the space.

>>65068828
Yeah, that'll get me v&.

>>65072771
Genuine question: why are tungsten rods watchlist worthy?

>>65071201
It's a small price to pay compared to a M249S or a OOW M240/MAG, if you snagged a cheap Portugese parts kit when the getting was good you'd be ~7k

We have feed tray, barrel, parts and reciever makers here in the US, which means we have the potential to pump out HK23 conversions - currently they're ~$5k+.
It will be the most economical belt fed by far, and likely the best adapted to FRT's as it is natively closed bolt by design - currently all the converted prototype M249S, MG42/MG3, and M240/MAG run FRT's at very slow RoF's becaus lol closed bolt conversion tom an open bolt gun.

TLDR Theres a good chance PTR will cave and make them

>>65073372
Hope you're right, would be pretty sick

Anyone got a QRD on which suppressors to use with an FRT (or what are the important factors to consider when doing further research on my own) on a bog-standard 16" AR-15? I already have the H3 buffer and a heavier buffer spring to swap in if necessary.

>>65073783
I ran two, technically 3 and they ran fine. I have a CAT WB which is flow through which runs great and a OCL OCM5 high back pressure can that also ran great. I upgraded the OCM5 to a OCM6 which is flow through and it still runs. I would think as long as your upper is well gassed, you should be good to go.

>>65073783
Suppressors generally are bad with FRTs and full auto fire. They raise the rate of fire (bad), make the gun get exponentially dirtier (bad) and make the gun get hotter (bad). I don't know why people insist on sticking suppressors on everything but I guess they're just like the funko pops of guns these days. But yeah ideally it'd be something with the highest volume and lowest backpressure possible and have a high mass to help mitigate some of the extreme heat that's going to build up. A good warranty is also a good idea along with being full auto rated

>>65073783
you want low back pressure so you don't gas yourself

>>65071277
>meaning you need to have been arrested
Funny, none of the plaintiffs in this case had been arrested:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/federal-court-strikes-down-158-year-old-home-distilling-ban
Yet they still succeeded at both the district court and the Fifth Circuit.

>>65073160
Several states are tracking purchases of anything 3DPG-related. They investigate people for buying any sort of gun parts online. Mine is one of them.

>>65068475
You buy a kit and know the guy who welds them onto new production receiver blanks and pay a lot and wait a long time. If you really want one just buy a kit and sit on it

t. knower

>>65074552
Wow that's fucked

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>>65074540
they were directly threatened with fines or arrest
that constitutes damages

>>65073787
Nta, but I use a suppressor with my MP5 FRT because I don't want people calling the ATF because they heard a "machine gun" from my property.

>>65075009
Now they report hearing an assassin machine gun

>>65075107
Extremely unlikely.
With subsonics, the gun is nonexistent beyond 100 yards.

>>65074552
Tungsten rods aren't gun parts though.

>>65075318
but what if they were bullet parts?

>>65066258
You just need enough mass to overcome your finger, so you make sure you have enough gas (which collects the kinetic energy) to be enough to make the buffer send home hard. Of which you up the weight of the buffer to delay the the bolt carrier speed enough so you dont sheer lugs during unlock. So H2 for normal people, H3 for gorillas and incel gooners.

Then you stiffen the spring enough so the buffer doesn't slam into the back of the receiver extension and you do all this tuning on your WEAKEST CHAMBER PRESSURE AMMO.

Now its reliable.
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>ARHK G3

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>>65075396
>ARHK G3
Stop tryin to trick us.

>>65075438
the ARHK isn't out yet, will be in about 2 months for about 550

>>65075440
>550
Why so high? Seems high.

>>65075528
quite the incredible price for what you get honestly to me anyways. It's also cheaper than the raregreed.

>>65075538
Yeah, but I paid $500 for my JLD91.

Another solution for the M249. This one uses a Rarebreed

https://youtu.be/4WaUjmJLcKE

That brings the total of solutions to six for the M249.

Check the github link in the OP for the other solutions and footage

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Guess I'm not going to the range this weekend

open source ps90 3 position FRT is being developed

https://old.reddit.com/r/ps90/comments/1sljije/wizards_dick_ps90_frt_coming_soon_to_a_3d_printer/

>>65074692
https://nypost.com/2026/02/27/us-news/wild-li-geezer-built-basement-shooting-range-gun-lab-stocked-with-arsenal-of-illegal-weapons-da/
>The probe launched in January 2025, after Chou was flagged as an alleged frequent online buyer of gun parts from multiple retailers — purchasing roughly 112 firearm-related components over the course of the prior year, according to prosecutors.
>
>“This kind of purchasing pattern is an immediate red flag for our law enforcement,” Donnelly said.

>>65075318
>Tungsten rods aren't gun parts though
They're used pretty widely in 3DPG though.

>>65075009
Which suppressor do you use?

>>65077507
Mojave 9 because it's low back pressure and I use it on my pistols too.

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I just had a thought. If FRTs are legal, does that mean shoelaces are legal now too?

>>65078716
No, because you are just pulling back on the ring, not the trigger, so its only one "press" but firing multiple rounds.

>>65078716
no, that's a machine gun

>>65078909
>>65078916
God bless the ATF for keeping us safe from floppy-shoed maniacs

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ARHK HK21

My PS90 FRT was just shipped finally

>>65061000
has anyone bought shit from https://www.supersafetyshop.com/?
i got a shitty quality cam from them that wasnt hardened and worn down after like 60 rounds.

they are ignoring all my emails.

>>65080409
I bought AK stuff from them but didnt install yet because I was occupied by other projects.

>>65080411
would you have any hardness picks to test your "stuff"

>>65080415
I dont, but honestly I'm not expecting much

>>65080400
When did you place order

>>65080617
Jan 20th