I don't concern myself with members of the sex haver community.

>>42827582
i thought patagonia was a woke company
huh

>>42827606
Regardless, the company’s lawsuit claims that the performer sows “confusion” by using her similar-sounding drag name while advertising her services, which include “motivational speaking services in support of environmental sustainability” and “organizing, arranging, and conducting trail and hiking events.”

Late last year, the performer hiked 100 miles in drag to raise $1 million for inclusive outdoors groups. Last May, she demonstrated against the current presidential administration’s anti-trans policies by flying the largest trans flag ever displayed in a national park. Last February, she also gave a historic TED Talk in drag on why joy is critical to political resistance.

In 2024, the current presidential administration featured her in a hateful political ad — she used the ad to raise $15,000 for trans people. In November 2023, iconic cellist Yo-Yo Ma worked with her and a transgender singer on an inspiring song about the climate.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2026/01/patagonia-sues-drag-performer-pattie-gonia-for-trademark-infringement/

In 2022, the company discovered that the drag performer was discussing a fundraising partnership with Hydroflask and The North Face, one of Patagonia’s business competitors.

In response, Patagonia told the performer that it would allow her to use her drag name for activism, but not for commercial sales. Patagonia said she should not print her name “in any form” or use the company’s font on any products. At the time, Pattie Gonia’s representatives said it would “take note” of the company’s wishes, but never explicitly agreed to them.

>>42827626
She doesnt give one single fuck

>>42827688
based?

is she funny?

>>42827582
The best I can do for drag queens is feel nothing at all.
If I were actually to care, I could only hate.

The fact that so many cis people confuse drag culture for trans culture really jiggles my niggles.

>>42827582
As a transwoman, i hate drag. I hate the LGBTQ+ flag. I hate the activists. I wish they would all stop, and let me worry about blending in without everyone thinking "tranny" all the time.

>>42830140
>blending in
so trans is not gender non conforming?

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>>42829750
Also queer culture gets mistaken for trans alot. When i came out to my mom, she later showed me some women with a beard later. And i cringed. She said its so confusing. I wish all the faggots would stop. I mean faggot as is loud gay men. I dont want to have a strobe light on my head!

>>42830154
Youre either thinking of "gender conforming" as in conforming to the gender you were assigned at birth, or mistaking nonbinaries or queers for trans. I want to conform to female gender despite being born male. Im not a pot stirrer. Im not trying to change the zeigeist. I just want to be a woman.

>>42830202
so trannies like gender roles

>>42830217
Im not the spokeswoman for all transwomen, but i dont like the gender role I was assigned at birth. I said that.

>>42830176
Yeah it's actually really bad atm in Melbourne because "trans inclusivity" so often literally just means "drag queen trivia night" or some shit like that. And even in supposedly trans spaces (as in not LGBTQIA+, but just for trans) it's just that pride lite, disco culture bullshit.

I was sitting at a trans event, on one side of me is a young trans man who's favorite band is Bullet for my Valentine, and other the other side is an older trans woman who's favorite band is Metalica, and so naturally they play ABBA at a volume that is way way way way way too loud for autistic people with noise sensitivity.

And I am absolutely fine with queer culture and drag queen culture and fag culture and all of it existing, what I'm not fine is with people patting themselves on the back for being inclusive of me while making spaces that are absolutely toxic for me.

>>42830227
what do you not like about the male gender role (socially)?

>>42830253
Social expectations to be a "man". Not being able to wear cute clothes and makeup. Having a man chin and jaw, adams apple and facial hair, and shoulders, and narrow hips, and being ugly, and idk what your asking anymore. My brain spirals at that point.

>>42830290
why can't you wear cute clothes and makeup as a male, that's not illegal

>>42830249
Im okay with everyone being themselves, i just dont want to be part of some show or circus, i want to be a woman in the crowd. The more attention drawn to trans this and that in the news, by both sides, its just draws more unwanted attention to an already very awkward and difficult time, transitioning.

>>42830313
NTA but because she's not a male.
It's as simple as that.
Her brain is not for doing male things in a male way and to handle the expectations of maleness.

Her brained is wired for female.

Feminism and Gender Theory can fuck right off.

>>42830350
what is a male?
>Her brained is wired for female.
females are attracted 2 women though

>>42830313
Your right its not, which is why im doing that. But also, HRT helps me fit my bras better and cute clothes fit better. Lazer hair removal and FFS makes the makeup go on easier and hair look better. Voice training helps blend in the whole aesthetics.

>>42830363
>>42830350
Male/female is genes. Man/woman/he/she is gender.

Im a transgender. Not a transexual.

My genetics are male. My gender is woman. Im not retarded.

>>42830375
No what you are is internalizing transphobia. It's the same as talking about your "biological sex", when what you actually mean is your genetic sex, while completely ignoring your neurological sex, both of which are parts of your biology.

I, as in the I in the sentence I think therefor I am, am female.
I am female.
It is my body that is wrong, not my brain.

>>42830441
> It is my body that is wrong, not my brain.
Well that is true. But my body is genetic. Im choosing to be a eunuch male in order to present as a woman (or whatever that other nona said about being a male wearing cute clothes somehow without being assaulted).

>>42830463
Except your brain, and more importantly your mind, are female. You are female. You just have a male body.

They say you were born male, they're wrong. You were born trans, which is a female nervous system attached to a male endocrine system. But the nervous system has the "you" in it.

>>42827626
>environmental sustainability
>she also gave a historic TED Talk in drag on why joy is critical to political resistance
sounds insufferable

>>42830487
I appreciate the affirmations, reading and repeating all those things feels good! Ngl.

But female-brain vs male-brain is not real. Theyre just brains, with scan differences being from cultural, learned, and hormone related. Its also largely disproven gayness or trans or any of the LGBTQs is genetic. In large genetic association studies (using statistics to find likely genetic links) highest variance was 25%. Which means less than 1/4 of all LGBTQs is statistically possible to be genetic caused.

This doesnt necessarily mean no gays/LGBTQs are born, or it can be cured or removed, or simply willed away, but it means something outside of genetics is the cause of trans and the other letters.

>>42830580
>But female-brain vs male-brain is not real. Theyre just brains
This is not true. There is clear differences in post-mortem autopsies of transgender brains compared to their cisgender counterparts.

> it means something outside of genetics is the cause of trans
We know what causes trans. In the case of trans women the brain fails to masculinize properly in the 3rd trimester of pregnacy. This could have a genetic component, but the most likely cause is encocrine disruptive chemicals the mother is exposed to at around that time.

The Y-chromosome doesn't actually do that much. The main thing it does is turn ovaries into testicles in the first trimester. After that it's hormones that do all the work. So if the amniotic sack doesn't have the right hormone balance in the third trimester when the brain develops, you get a girl brain instead of a boy brain even though you've got a Y-chromosome.

Now obviously female nervous system plus male endocrine system = fucked up. That dog won't hunt. So you've got two options:

1. You can alter the nervous system to be more male. If the technology to do this is even possible, it certainly doesn't exist. But if it did exist it would effective you as a personality and replace you with a new personality, who would be cisgender, but would not be you.
2. We alter the endocrine system to be more male, a technology so straightforward we've had it for at least 6,000 years.

Medical affirmation as part of gender affirming care today, mostly involves altering the endocrine system to be more female. Suppression of testosterone and introduction of estrogen and progesterone to function as the ovaries which aren't present. Once that's done, you now a female endocrine system attached to a female nervous system.

What part of that isn't "biologically female"?

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>>42830677
Please stop.

Your slurry of largely untrue scientific claims containing only little nuggets of truth, cannot be sewn together to prove anything your saying.

Also we live in a post-AI world, this reddit tier "science" distortion tactic doesnt work, when I can dump verbatum what you said into it and get each cases study for and against your claim. If you want me to go point for point i can, but im going to sleep now.

>>42830677
>The Y-chromosome doesn't actually do that much
>tranny
>vague broad chromosome denials without evidence

>>42827582
Just transition faggot

>>42833779
no such thing

>>42827582
looks like a clown
u don't like clowns

>>42836198
I like clowns.

>>42830677
So you're telling me nature gave you female brain but couldn't give you pussy?

>>42836928
nature is crazy

>>42827582
She was my scout leader growing up. She raped me half a dozen times and never gave me a badge

>>42837443
sounds like the male equivalent of a terf

>>42827582
>name your company after region of the world that an explorer named 505 years ago
>nO yOu CaNt UsE tHaT NaMe
I fucking hate some companies

>>42837462
No i think she’s technically a drag queen. She used the term “gape queen” though

>>42837482
>What do you mean i can’t name my restaurant McDonalds? My name is literally Evin McDonald?!

>>42837484
The Gape Queen of ACK-mar…
The one they say no toddler cant thrill…

>>42837510
Yeah that's fucking lame as well. Ofc you should be able to name your joint mcdonalds if that's your name. Just don't copy the arches

>>42837552
Tim Apple was luckily to land a job that prevented the problem entirely

>>42837484
what is the difference between a drag queen and a male terf?

>>42837631
I still dont know what a terf is

>>42837704
a lesbian who doesn't think men can become lesbians by rearranging their parts or taking chemicals

>>42837484
There’s no way you had a bonafide run in with a gape queen. You’d be shitting summer sausages for the rest of your life

>>42837797
I haven’t had an audible fart in 19 years

she's brave

>>42837820
bullshit

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>>42829717
funny for a broad

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>>42830677
>1. You can alter the nervous system to be more male. If the technology to do this is even possible, it certainly doesn't exist. But if it did exist it would effective you as a personality and replace you with a new personality, who would be cisgender, but would not be you.

i think this is truly the most revelatory of your worldview.
what do you think it means to have a brain? straight forward question, i know, but the answer may vary quite a bit depending on who you ask. some people's definition (like yours) treats the brain almost like the cartesian idea of a soul, a distinct structure from both our bodies and the "souls" of those around us.

another definition is to treat the brain as a cybernetic structure, composed of many interrelated spectra. for example, there is a hormonal aspect that contributes to the second-by-second impulses of daily brain activity.
there is also the aspect of memory which acts as both a catalog of previous interactions and predictor of future ones by dedicating certain neurons to the storage of information.
thirdly, there is a distinct social aspect, by which your parasympathetic nervous system organizes systems of information through emotional affecting, linguistic articulation, and the learning and breaking of social norms that constitutes day-to-day life for most humans.

the number and relationship of all these separate machinations which constitute the singular organ which we label "the brain" and, by extension, the human experience, are so vast and uncharted that to assume one could distinctly slot the emergent phenomenon of consciousness into 2, or 4, or 13, or 72 perfect categories is pure fantasy.

the term "female nervous system" could mean so many different things in so many different contexts that it is nearly meaningless, redundant, tautological. you might as well say "the green nervous system" or "the pizza nervous system", as long as we're just inventing qualifiers for existence

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>>42840545
Me when i just say shit

>>42840757
welcome to 4chan :^)

>>42840545
that pic used to be my phone wallpaper/background, years ago
looking back, it's actually quite a trite and pedantic work

>>42841222
i always thought of it as emblematic of the how conceited rich people are that they literally think they are gods

criminally based

>>42827688
>she

>>42842081
drag queens are more women than trannies are