gm fags I wanna go kiss a girl and watch my boyfriend kiss a guy but hes straight its not fair >:(

>>43144944
>watch my boyfriend kiss a guy but hes straight its not fair >:(
He just needs to drink enough and that will no longer be the case

>>43144822
Congrats on your big penis as well OP!

>>43144944
I will make out with your bf if he’s willing to try boy flavored kisses

Hurray bigen!

What music are all of you listening to? I've been on a bit of a Nine Inch Nails kick recently.

>>43146519
Soapbox atm. Glasgow punk best punk

Happy bigen as been more active

I can only dream of having 3 threads a day like the covid days

>>43146527
Oh nice, hadn't heard of them before. Happy to know there are still new punk bands being formed. There were tons of local ones in my city 20 years ago, but the scene seems to have dried up as far as I can tell.

>>43146559
we will rise from the ashes like a big bisexual phoenix

>>43146559
just dont get erased again

>>43145996
thank you! it's huge!

>>43144944
That's why bi4bi is great

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>>43144822
glad u kept the thread going
hello friends

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whats up bi guys

i got into webcomics recently anyone else read any??

>>43146519
ive been listening to so much car seat headrest i might die (but i can't stop), I posted my top albums here >>43151273


also any idea why it say my IP is blocked "due to abuse" but only on this thread and some others it's really annoying to post. i've never done anything weird and i rarely even post

I'm seriously considering suicide again. The world is just so mean. People are so rude and heartless and careless. It's never going to get better. It hasn't gotten better once in my whole life. I don't think anything can fix me.

>>43151661
I'm sorry anon. Do you at least get to enjoy the long weekend?

>>43151448
I used to read Dr. McNinja, Dinosaur Comics, Three Word Phrase, and Ant Comics. I doubt any of those are still active, some might’ve wrapped over a decade ago now. There were some good ones on Vice too

I get the IP temporarily suspended thing pretty regularly too, no idea why. I never post anything particularly crazy

>>43151661
I’m sorry you’re feeling that way anon. The world has gotten kind of nuts in the last decade or so, and petty cruelty is demoralizing. I think we’re all better off with there being more kind and sensitive people around, so I hope you don’t act on those feelings <3

Goodnight, /bigen/

>>43152841
Sweet dreams, anon

I hope the world is better in the morning.

>>43151448
>>43152013
>IP thing
I browse 4chan in private mode in Firefox, but I gave up and created some throwaway email and verified it and just leave a persistent session open in Chrome now to respond to threads. I also noticed that it only happens on some boards.

>dinosaur comics
They're still posting daily at https://www.qwantz.com/

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>>43144822
Does anyone still find it weird to go from dating someone of the opposite sex to the same sex? As in the roles/how you're meant to act? Male, but assume it's the same for women. I was with this guy I'm kind of seeing, and it was raining out, and before I left, he gave me his hoodie. Ngl thought it was very cute, and I was smiling like a teenage school boy the whole way home, but part of me felt like I should be the one doing that? If I'm out with a girl, I know I'll be the one asking for the cheque. That I'll, by and large, be the one comforting her. I know it's a little stereotypical, but it feels like I know what I'm doing. I'm also a little weirdly sensitive to a guy treating me like I guess that I'm the one who needs to be protected/comforted. Can't tell if I'm being autistic or if other anons can sort of see where I'm coming from?

>>43154720
what is that underwear called

>>43154859
Briefs

>>43144822
bumps

>>43144822
Gay to bi is a special kind of hell. What the fuck kind of gay guy wakes up and wants to be balls deep in a cunt? And I want to make up for all the lost time.

>>43155608
Is this your experience? What made you realize you like women too? Any common traits among the ones you’ve been attracted to? Just curious, don’t think I’ve ever met someone who had that trajectory.

>>43154333
Nice trips

Thanks for the advice on the IP stuff.

Crazy Dinosaur Comics is still going daily, I’ll have to start reading it again. It must be one of the longest running webcomics at this point.

>>43154720
the nice thing about same-sex dating is that you dont have to conform to any gendered dating stereotypes you dont like. its extremely freeing, because unlike in straight relationships there arent any "rules" to follow. on some level that makes it harder because you don't really have a societally ingrained guidebook anymore.
on another level though it means you get to come up with ways to show you care without being concerned about gender coding and suddenly the relationships are so much more about each other and less about what society says you should do for each other. its rad.
also him giving you the hoodie means youre the bottom now sorry if that's news to you

>>43155992
Yeah, I can see that too, just wish I could get over my own internal strife about it. Ngl, he is more assertive than I am. We were just stargazing once, and again had another cutesy moment where he wrapped his arms around my waist and just started whispering into my ear. Felt so safe and at ease, but weirdly embarrassed, not because of the PDA, but because it made me feel more passive, like he was the one in control, not me.
>also him giving you the hoodie means youre the bottom now sorry if that's news to you
Heh. I know this was a joke, but he prefers to top, and again, it's the same issue. Blue board and all, so left it out, but i have this cognitive dissonance about it (especially because i've mostly topped other guys and with women it's straightforward) in that I feel so timid and almost compliant and it's just not what is expected of me, or how I think I am perceived.

>>43156163
>We were just stargazing once, and again had another cutesy moment where he wrapped his arms around my waist and just started whispering into my ear. Felt so safe and at ease, but weirdly embarrassed, not because of the PDA, but because it made me feel more passive, like he was the one in control, not me.

If this is a problem for you, could you send him my way? :p I’d love to have another guy treat me like this lol

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Sometimes this is how my life feels

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>fwb is having an avoidant spiral again
I'M HORNY GOD DAMMIT
I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE OVER YOUR LIFE IT'S JUST SATURDAY NIGHT AND I WANT TO FUCK AND WATCH ANIME
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>43158851
Just tell them you wanna boink and see what your mutual pal Goku is up to. Tell them you definitely don’t love them, because that’s icky, and that’s where cooties come from

>>43158851
You need like 2-3 FWBs. One is not enough because of shit like this, and more than three is too much because they will all wanna meet around the weekend.

>>43159138
You ever deal with avoidants?
I wanted to bone and watch space dandy :(

>>43159281
I absolutely do not have the social bandwidth to fuck more than one person at a time

>>43159308
I’m sorry, I haven’t. I’ve had a few one off hookups and dated the rest of my partners. Never dealt with a fwb situation firsthand.

So are you just watching Space Dandy solo and mashing your genitals alone tonight?

>>43159879
>I’ve had a few one off hookups and dated the rest of my partners. Never dealt with a fwb situation firsthand.
It's not a phenomenon exclusive to fwbs. Count yourself lucky because dating them is downright stressful.
I'm not watching space dandy because we're watching it together and I don't want to get ahead, but I am in fact mashing my genitals alone tonight.

>>43160529
>not just frens w/ benns
Ooh good point. Yeah I’ve never been in a relationship where one party was weird about the other “being clingy”. I think I’d get out of a relationship like that asap if I stumbled into one by accident. I really don’t like being coy about my feelings for people.

>waiting to Dandy with part time boo
Aw! Careful though, they might think you like them O.O

>Monster Mash
Hell yeah anon, happy mashing!

Goodnight bigen, happy Easter if that’s a thing you do, happy Sunday if not <3

>>43151448
asscastle is a classic lol. Cate wurtz is the kind of comic artist that rules but that you can't tell anyone about. big inspiration of mine

Planning to have first grindr hookup soon.
I would be crossdressing and giving the guy head while my gf watches. Neither of us has ever done anything like this before and it's my first gay experience as well.
How do we not make it awkward?

>>43162129
1) accept that it won't be perfect: awkwardness is expected, laugh it up when it happens (first-times are *always* a bit awkward)
2) take your time bc rushing makes everything worse and it's stressful, so plan a-head is possible. Take pauses when you'll be altogether: taking it slow is appreciated. (like don't suck his duck as soon he enters your home lol don't try to make him cum in 5mins tops lol) Chat first about y'all going to do: is some roleplay is expected? how much rough (or tender) each one of you prefer? does anyone fancy a drink?
3) Plan something to drink/snack afterwards (once sex and cleaning is done) —no need to prepare a buffer dw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ywpBsDS20s
4) describe to me how you'll be dressed, this is very important.... like, pantyhose? corset? makeup?

>>43163051
>like don't suck his duck as soon he enters your home lol don't try to make him cum in 5mins tops lol
that was my plan, I am not a very chatty person but I'll try to take it slow thanks

>describe to me how you'll be dressed
yes it will be the whole shebang but I don't know the exact fit yet

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Happy Easter bigen!

>>43164536
For some reason, every single church bell in my city echoes into my condo even though I can't really hear them on the street. Been a bunch of continuous but inconsistent ringing for the last hour. Luckily it's about to stop cuz it's 11.

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I had a thought today
probably one of my first gay attractions was verac from runescape (from actual 2007)
or rather how the male characters looked in the armour

Gotta go to work Easter Sunday. Take it easy fellas.

>>43165403
I worked Thursday and Friday this year. Granted, I didn't have any other plans but it's still a couple of holidays taken away from you.

>>43164536
happy easter

>>43166256
I'm not Christian, so the day doesn't really mean anything to me. I'm getting stat pay and reduced hours, at least.

>>43166315
>I'm not Christian, so the day doesn't really mean anything to me.
Me neither. And yeah the extra pay makes up for it somewhat at least, though looking back I could've used those days off.

>>43164780
I'm always finding weird early examples of my sexuality from childhood. The 2000 comedy Bedazzled with Brendan Fraser and Elizabeth Hurley was interesting to rewatch.

>>43166336
it's strange
like a random memory will come up and it will be like
''ooh, that makes sense now'' lol

not too into brendan but I love his hair there..

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Almost done with day 1 of not smoking weed. It's been hard since the stuff is all around me and I haven't gone to sleep sober in years, but I'm almost there. Told myself I'd take at least three days off; hopefully the next few will be easier.

>>43151448
>asscastle
you see, you don't get much better than that

>>43167459
Why the break from weed?

Rodriguezfloresalexandrodemian@gmail.com
Send Penis please

Sometimes when my gf and I hang and drink with her best friend she keeps making jokes about me hooking up with friend or us forming a poly marriage and it's frequent enough to the point where I'm wondering if there's something there.

>>43167499
My lungs, wallet, and memory were screaming for it. The rest of me isn't happy but this won't last forever. Wish I could drink normally but that stuff really messes me up; being a stoner is much more sustainable.

>>43167668
It's possible, but tread carefully, anon. It's hard to add someone to an existing relationship, especially an MFF triad.

>>43167707
Agreed, though I'm into edibles. Tried smoking weed a few times in high school and it always felt like it had no effect on me. Tried my first edible and finally understood the appeal. Plus there's the added benefit of it being easy on the lungs. Wish you a bearable tolerance break, anon.

>>43167731
>Wish you a bearable tolerance break, anon.
Thanks. For some reason I'm your opposite- always loved to smoke, never enjoyed edibles in the least. Funny how that works.

>>43167715
Yeah I will not push for it because I absolutely do not want to make our relationship weird or anything like that, or make things awkward with my gf's best friend. Just got in my head because we hung out recently and discussed logistics like healthcare and pets and kids and they both seemed very nonchalant about it but in my head I was like "wtf?"

Usually I can talk to my gf about anything including women or men we find attractive, but for obvious reasons can't bring this one up. Just needed to tell someone anonymously and chose bigen lol

>>43167668
>>43167809
Be wary that it might just be a test where you are supposed to reaffirm your gf by rejecting it kinda deal

>>43168174
I rejected it most recently by saying that I thought I'd get in trouble for health insurance fraud lol (gf is on my insurance). She's not really a malicious schemer anyway, more likely options are just her going wild with her thoughts.

>>43166336
Yeah the signs I was bi were all very clear in retrospect for me too lol

>>43168174
I can't take this sort of mind game shit from women

How does one make friends and flirt and have people like them? I always feel like A void wearing a human mask and everyone in the room notices my fakery.

>>43172798
100% relatable, although I still have somewhat of a social circle thanks to sports and my extroverted partner

>>43172787
99% of women don't do this shit. tiktok isnt real life

Trying to sleep, but instead lying awake and dwelling on the ways I am a failure and a let down and it will never get better I should have followed through on suicide when I had the chance.

>>43172787
>>43173047
99% do this shit (test you). It's just a matter of whether it's small, more reasonable tests or ones designed to trap you.

>>43144944
I just wanna kiss peoples inner thighs.
>>43146519
Panchiko is playing bear me this month but idk if i can justify spending around 120~200 dollars for a concert. I have never been to a concert. Concerts at anime conventions don't count.

>>43172798
Same, years of having to mask my autism but both ways barely anyone wants to get close to me.

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found out my lil sis outed me to my fuckass brother so now I'm worried as fuck as to what the fuck is happening behind my back, like he attacked me before for thinking I was so now that he has actual confirmation it's scaring me

>>43173503
>99% test you
That hasn’t been my experience with the women I’ve dated or been friends with.
Just date men if you feel like those tricksy ladies are messing with you though.

>>43173768
Damn, that sucks anon. Do you live them or have to see them regularly?

>>43172798
Asking people questions about themselves is a good way to get a conversation going. It gives the other person a chance to talk about something they’re obviously an expert in, demonstrates you’re interested in them, and lets them set the tone for how personal they want to be in that particular conversation. Lots of people feel similarly to you as well; you’re not at all alone for feeling inauthentic or uncomfortable in social situations.

>>43173945
*live with them or have to see them regularly

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>>43173945
I see them regularly and it's not like I don't love him, it's really complicated since he has brain damage and was never like this when we were younger, it's just I don't think he can really handle it due to his issues so I'm really pissed at my sis for doing that cause we were arguing

I don't like to think about it too much but I'm pretty sure he would be a lot more accepting if he didn't had that happen to him, you can only imagine the uncertainty of what he'll do now is freaking me out, genuinely fuck my family for using him against me since my mother kept hinting it to him too because "I need to be more open", I was already having a hard enough time accepting he'll never be the same

>>43174013
Ah man that’s really sad about your brother. I can’t imagine what it’s like seeing someone you’re close with have their personality changed like that.

Did you say your family is trying to push you to be more open? Like open about your sexual identity? I agree using your brother as a threat is a weird way of approaching that issue.

>>43174071
Yeah, I don't go about telling everyone that I'm bi so them basically outing me to him is wrong in my opinion, I didn't tell him it for a damn good reason, it should be up to me to tell whoever I want

I don't think any of them really understand how hard I took the news, he was the one I was closest to growing up so having him have the mind of a literal kid now? It's horrifying, seeing a grown man act the way he does and wanting to die cause of it fucks with my head a lot, he was always sweet before it so I believe he would've even be more supportive than the rest of my family

I know that probably came across as vent-y but the fact that I got outed to him of all people doesn't sit right with me, I don't think I can ever fully process what happened to him desu

>>43174196
How did they get brain damage?

>>43172798
I got some book recommendations that have helped me a lot. It feels counterintuitive to read a book in order to become better at social situations, but they worked for me lmao

For making friends:
How to Win Friends and Influence People
Never Split the Difference
What Every BODY is Saying

For dating (assuming you're male):
Dating Essentials for Men
How to Be a 3% Man

How to Not Die Alone: The Surprising Science That Will Help You Find Love is okay-ish if you're a man looking to date mostly men, but is rather lackluster for men dating women. It might be a better book if you're a woman, but obviously I can only talk from my own experience as a man.

>>43174220
Multiple seizures and head trauma over the years, I am actually the same age he started getting them so I'm pretty terrified myself if that start happening to me too, I think I would kill myself if I ever get a seizure after seeing what it did to him

>>43174196
It sounds like your family had had good intentions, but yeah I don’t think they handled that well at all. I hope your brother knowing your bi doesn’t end up being a big deal after all, but I think you’re right to be concerned. Sorry you’re dealing with all of that in any case :\

>>43173721
For me it was undiagnosed ADHD. I was a loud and intense kid, and then when I got intensely bullied in high school I became a paranoid and reclusive person. But either way I can't make connections. Either mask-off and I'm an off-putting weirdo, or mask-on and I'm quiet, avoidant, and boring. I can't fake being likeable.

>>43174013
Man, I don't know your family situation, but this would be grounds for never talking to my sister again for me.

>>43174770
yeah, my mother could've had good intentions but my sis certainly didn't, she refused to talk to me for a while after I got into an argument with her boyfriend so her telling him this during this time? It's obvious she wanted to spite me, also this might be bias but I think I'm in the right for it because he literally broke into the bathroom when I was locked in there going for a piss, she really expects me to buy her a fucking video game to make up for me freaking out and getting into a fight for it, a normal person doesn't break into a locked bathroom not knowing who's in there when there's fucking kids in the house, especially when it comes to me since I did got touched up by someone who did that exact same thing to me when I was a kid, I'm not in the wrong for thinking he's a fucking creep for that right?
>>43174833
Its pretty bad desu, the moment I can I do plan on moving out and going no contact since I really don't like them, shit like refusing to acknowledge my dad molested me or that I was abused pretty badly as a kid in general, like it's bad enough that I want a name change which I think might come out of nowhere for them since they literally don't get why I wouldn't like them over this, like maybe I don't like all my problems getting made fun of including having my own sexuality be thrown at me? but yeah this is just adding onto the list of reasons to why I don't want to speak to her or most of them in the future

Bump

bigen more like
byegen
haha

any guys want to make a 19 yo boy call u daddy :/

>>43176636
bud I'm 19 myself and I'm here wondering wtf is going through your head reading this

>>43176636
Jesus I’m literally twice your age. No, I don’t want to make you call me daddy, I never wanted to be a father. I’m sure someone on this board would be interested though.

>>43174978
Sorry I shouldn’t have lumped your mom and sister together here. Definitely sounds like your sister was acting out of malice.

I <3 my bi boyfrieeeennddd im gonna make him my bi husbannnnndd

>>43176636
Sure post a vocaroo of you saying "please stuff my little boy throat with your big adult dick sir" in the sluttiest voice you can.

>>43177064
>"please stuff my little boy throat with your big adult dick sir"
That sentence really didn't need "little boy" and "adult" in it...

>>43177038
Awwww :D

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How does one train for anal?
I've been a full top since I've come out and my bf told me he wants to try topping me
I've played with my ass before but really just small plugs. Never anything actually dick sized
How do I work my way up? Will it take awhile to do so without hurting myself
I really want to give him this experience because he's a switch and I can kind of tell that him just bottoming is not fulfilling his needs

>>43177580
Not qualified to advise, but kudos on stretching your boundaries (and your butthole) to accommodate your partner

>>43177580
Just use plenty of lube and stretch as much as you feel is necessary. It gets easier.
If your diet isn't awful you shouldn't have to use an enema or anything.

Reddit bisexuals who are old (25+) how did your taste adapt once your male dating pool all started hitting twink death? I feel like the only options for us are fat and/or hairy niggas

>>43179256
Twink death is a state of mind
I've seen 37yos who are still really twinkish

>>43178397
I appreciate it! I'm a bit excited tb completely honest. It's just the process of training I'm not excited for
Maybe I should involve my partner in it

>>43179256
If twink death is something bothering you to a significant degree it probably means you weren't into twinks, you were just into young boys and are a pederast, not a normal bisexual. Most "twinks" people discuss these days are just skinny young guys and don't properly match the aesthetic reqs.

>>43179402
There always seems to be a thread up on here for some meat headed top about how they’d never bottom, so it’s nice to see someone who’s game to switch things up lol
>maybe involve my partner
Sounds fun, might as well ask ;)

>>43179365
Agreed. Everyone ages obviously, but there are plenty of older queer guys who take care of themselves and lean more toward pretty than handsome. I had a bunch of professors in art school who fit that type

Goodnight bigen, hope you’re all cozy in you jammies, and toasty under the covers

>>43177580
Eat lots of fiber. Shower. Then, lube and patience. Take time to find your prostate.

If I didn't have a job I'd be fully a recluse

>>43151661
always remember that you will die. you just have to wait. all over soon.

i want to be held by a girl with an impressive skull.

>>43182184
Thanks, I'm naked under my covers.
>>43182881
I'd be drawing latex fetish hentai among other things... But I already kinda started that while having a job but I only share it through discord out of embarrassment.

>>43184032
> I'm naked under my covers
Nice. My gf sleeps nude, I prefer t shirt and briefs.

>>43176736
not that hard to imagine whats going through my head, want me to call u daddy or not?

>>43185397
Nta, but you can try calling me daddy if you want. Not sure how I feel about it currently, but willing to find out

>>43185361
I can't sleep nude. I leak precum almost constantly and I would mess my sheets up if I did
Not like a puddle but a little spot that I would rather have in my boxers than on my bedsheets

>>43185422
what's nta? and if ur not joking wana go on disc or something?

>>43185452
“Not that anon” means I’m not the poster you were initially replying to. I’m good on discord, thanks though.

Have you tried the fren gen thread? That’s specifically for meeting people to chat off the board with.

>>43185487
fren gen sucks ass

>>43144822
>picrel
i love big penis
t.wink

>>43185445
Kinda hot though lol

I just feel a little more comfortable with a shirt and briefs out of habit at this point. I’ do end up sleeping nude occasionally and it always feels weird.

My gf literally never wears clothing at home. As soon as she gets home from work, she rips it all off. She keeps the curtains in our apartment closed now because I saw someone nearby had changed their wifi network name to “hello naked neighbor” lol

>>43185517
Never posted there, but that doesn’t surprise me. Have you tried gay gen? A decent number of the people in bigen are women or dudes who prefer bottoming. Seems like there’d be more daddies on a thread specifically for gay men.

>>43185593
that's not true at all lol and doesn't have to be a daddy lol just gotta be a guy with a dick, dont even gotta be a big one

>>43185397
I just don't get the appeal of calling someone daddy, like I'm a 19 yr bottom too but don't you think that's too much?

>>43185943
whats ur problem, go back to twitter

>>43185973
I have no problem, I just don't get the appeal

>>43185990
want me to fuck ur boy ass or not?

>>43185990
People can like things that you don't like

>>43186052
-_-
>>43186073
I know that, I was just wondering what's even appealing to call someone daddy? I'm not judging but more curious than anything

>>43186094
fake bottom
>I'm not judging
lol

>>43186099
Fine I am judging, I don't get the whole daddy thing at all and find it pretty creepy

>>43186136
want me to call u baby boy?

>>43186136
I don’t like all that daddy/mommy stuff either anon, I agree it’s creepy. It’s harmless, and I’d do it for a partner if they really wanted me to, but I’m glad I’ve never been with someone who’s requested it.

>>43185593
>A decent number of bigen are women
I don't believe this.
>Bottoms
Thats a majority of people till they find the right one.
>>43186496
Term baby also bothers me when people use it for their SO.

>>43186136
cute younger guy moaning "fuck me daddy" is pretty hot though

>>43186841
>women on bigen
I don’t mean like 50% of the users, but I’ve seen 3-4 posting on these threads in the last few weeks. I was mainly trying to steer that kid who wants to call someone daddy over to gaygen, because he doesn’t seem to be having any luck here. Maybe he was asking dudes for money over there and isn’t welcome back anymore, I dunno

>>43186496
I'd do it if asked but it would leave me feeling off, out of all the terms they could've used they want that? It doesn't feel right
>>43186841
Finally someone else who think the baby stuff is weird too, there's just some pet names that makes me more weirded out than anything else and baby sounds really noncey to me
>>43186873
somewhat, the moaning itself is definitely better than the words

>>43185557
That sounds hot too. If I rip my bf's clothes off him after I get home he'll chill around naked but he never chooses by himself to go nude around the house
I just find casual nudity kinda hot

>>43186136
My bf has taken to calling me "master" in bed and it's... Fine
Daddy just hits harder I suppose

>>43186841
I don't know about a "decent" number, but I'm a bi cisf who's been on various boards for over ten years

>>43187412
My bf has been calling me Master Blaster lately, and insists I ask him, “Who runs Bartertown?” whenever I’m inside him.

>>43187398
Woof I’d love to have bf and rip his clothes off after work lol. My gf doesn’t do it to be sexual, it’s really a comfort thing. She’s kind of feral in general xD

I just get chilly and self conscious whenever I’m hanging out in le nude

>>43187398
>I just find casual nudity kinda hot
Casual nudity is insanely underrated

Causal nudity is soooooooo good, it sucks that I'm almost always in a situation where it's impossible

>>43187780
>>43187816
Me and my partner live like this most of the time (at least in summer). We just prefer no clothes in the house.

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I honestly had to leave my desk this morning because this stupid image hit me so hard. I feel like this kid and I never grew out of it.

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>>43187722
Maybe I could get him to call me "humongous"

>>43187766
My bf is the same way. Gets cold too easily

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>>43187926
Kek, you’d need his weird little hype man to announce you as “The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla”

>>43187937
Do you um… warm him up anon??

>>43188114
I do. Sometimes I just want to chill in my armchair though and watch him game or do a chore
Makes it hard to warm him up then

>>43188359
>I do
Nice.

Poor chilly boy. I hope you let him put on a robe or something once you’re done admiring him :p

>>43186841
>>43187172
I don’t love the “baby” thing, but it’s not an active turn off to me the way “daddy” is

>>43189147
>>43187172
It just reminds me of this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vll-EFHMm_s
>>43187450
I've met like 2 women from 4chan that were cis both of which were at conventions and cgl posters.

>be gay guy
>had a bi guy friend, he was literally my ideal type, tall, hot, hairy
>always felt i was punching up a bit but (i messaged him more), but he established he was more into girls
>comes onto me randomly while visiting him (at no point did i ever come onto him while knowing him)
>go to his room, suck his dick
>he pulls out straight porn and watches it while im sucking his dick
>absolutely fucking humiliated
>he still speaks to me after this, i just sort of wasnt sure how to respond to all this because i dont get why he even came onto me if he was gonna do that to me
>found out recently he described me as "meh" while hitting on one of my friends who was a girl
>date a bi guy more recently
>again, hot hairy handsome tall etc
>never really said whether he preferred girls or guys, but was a therapist
>told him about all this quite casually, said he was "probably just in the closet", i dont think he was at all
>things seem to be going well
>messages me recently saying hes actually been dating a girl recently and that hes going back into the closet and being a christian but hopes we can remain good friends
genuinely considering suicide lol

>>43190557
Omg anon that sucks so bad! I’m sorry those hot hairy bastards trifled with your affections like that! ToT

I’m sorry our people have mistreated you. If you bring them here we’ll assemble a tribunal (bibunal?) and punish them as our laws dictate.

>>43190557
Brutal. You have my sympathies anon. For what it's worth IMO you didn't do anything wrong, they just turned out to be shitty guys

>>43179256
I grew up and realized I like to see mustaches sliding up and down my cock and making other muscular men my personal cum dumps. If I want to take a soft, feminine body, I'll have sex with a woman. If you are hitting 30 and still attracted to teenage boys you are probably a predator.

Bumpity

>>43190557
That's wrong and you deserved to be treated so much better

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>>43144822
Hi ?LGBT/ tourist here, just wondering, is it possible to to tell what position a gay guy plays, like is this dude a top or a bottom?

>>43190557
This is a genuine fear. It's that and suddenly feeling uncomfortable to any intimacy from anyone.

>>43194467
positions are a psyop and not a real thing. they were invented to increase acceptance among hetero people who need strict gender roles in the bedroom.

>>43194467
Despite what people may try to psyop you into believing, the more faggy a guy is (lisp, feminine clothing, limp wrists etc.) the more likely it is that he's a bottom.

>>43194582
I hope this isn't applied to bisexuals because I am trying not to sound like that.

>>43194825
It absolutely applies to bisexuals too.

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>>43194846
It's over.

>>43194937
How so? It just makes it easier to see if you are compatible with someone right off the bat (although it obviously won't be the case 100% of the time).

>>43194968
I'm trying my best to mask most things about my from public spaces.

Just got home after spending a couple of days with my bf. Life is worth living

>>43194555
If it's a psyop it's probably the most successful one ever.

>>43195048
... but why though. Why not just own who you are? Within reason of course.

I'm at a resort and before I was allowed to post, I had to view a received warning for my (the resort's) last post. Apparently it was in 2025 and on >>>/vt/ which is a board I've never heard of lol

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>>43195073
>Why would an autistic bisexual mask
Are you joking or dense...

>>43194467
You can just ask. Or if you meet them online their profile will probably state it.

>>43195224
Hence the within reason part. But I understand that it can be hard to determine what that means at times if you are autistic.

>>43195056
Aw nice :)

>>43194467
Sam Altman is a ghoul whatever he does in bed with his husband.

this gen is so full of normies

>>43195742
Yeah I kind of like that about it desu. It’s nice scrolling a thread and where people aren’t constantly being assholes to each other or threatening to rope themselves.

>>43195742
You say that like it's a bad thing

>>43195742
If I meet the standard for normie then society is cooked.

>>43196218
Kek I think you might be one of our outliers desu. I think that anon might be overestimating how normie bigen is though. We’ve had plenty of oddballs posting here in the last couple weeks

>>43194467
Not really
I know big burly bears who are sub bottoms once their clothes are off and femboys who are straight tops
No way to tell unless you ask and it's not exactly polite to ask until it becomes your business (i.e. you're talking about going home together)

>>43195742
Good. People are actually nice here and there aren't many tripfags and drama

>>43196422
I've seen like 4 dramas since 2016.
>>43196414
>femboys who are straight tops
God I wish that were me.

>>43195742
Hell yeah brother. I actually don't consider myself a normie at all, just slightly more civilized than your average 4chan ghoul

>>43196414
Where can I find a straight bottom femboy tho?

>>43198211
reddit i bet

i guess i've fumbled the only girl i could ever have because she had submissive energy, but she's actually like being dominant. she said it today in a convo. but she has a bf rn and her bf is my friend.
i feel so fucking bad, guys. that's unreal.
i hate everything.
she talked about pegging guys and that she would like to do it and other stuff

fml. i felt bad when i once saw them together, two months later they said me they're dating and now this.... why...
i fumbled her because... she felt bad after breakup because her ex cheated on her and she doesn't look for relationship but in the same time she was very touchy so her words didn't match her action and it was a red flag for me.. and after i said i just want to be friends because was scared that if she catch my feelings she'll feel disgusted.

like no other person on earth treated me better than her and she still does but we never can be together.

i just want to kms after this. fml really
guys, save me

Currently listening to early 2010's hits. I miss when i was a child :(

>>43199119
Given the way you talk about yourself, you would have sabotaged the relationship anyway had you gotten together.
If you want to find a good relationship you need to get your life in order. Women (or men for that matter) should be the icing on the cake that is your life, not the cake itself.

>>43199627
so in the next 10 years i'll be a lonely virgin
i'm kidding. i got it. i try to connect with people but they never try back or don't make it clear

>>43199777
>i try to connect with people but they never try back or don't make it clear
It's hard to say for sure without knowing you IRL, but I'm betting that you across as desperate or too forward too quickly.

>>43199828
not really. i'm self-aware and try to be polite and respectful, don't push forward, give space, make offers they can refuse. i'm just invisible, when i'm visible i'm a clown or the put me in the place of a victim in karpman's triangle (because i don't meet their expectation and they try to "fix" me). neither is good

>>43198196
Fren.
>>43199119
I have cringe because in highschool I told a girl I liked that I wanted to get pegged if I got in a relationship with anyone...
>>43199777
I know this. Closest people I'm with only reach out randomly then disappear again which is fine but it really shows who actually cares enough to reach out.

>>43200118
idk, man, maybe it was too much but if she gave me some signs i'd push it harder, i thought she was very normie and subby and i hate it in women.

god, this april couldn't be worse. i hate this month so much you don't even fucking know. every day is torture

>>43200168
Nah I don't think it would have changed, I don't believe it is possible to move from being friends anymore. I tried that a couple of times, if som9ne hits you with hints they want to make it something then you let them know you are into them it just leads to a cycle of never putting a term on anything and never getting anywhere.

>>43200206
bro, i regret it so much and i can't sleep. i can't calm myself down. i will never have a chance like this. actually i never had

>>43200206
>>43200253
and the problem is i can't be open about what i want at all. i just fucking can't because i live in a shithole and people will treat me poorly worse than now

hi im bisexual i love being bisexual it's unironically the best sexuality thank you all for listening

>>43200312
I'm not bisexual and I hate not being one

>>43200474
that is the correct way to feel about it

Im incel

>>43200490
me too

>>43199476
I miss when the world wasn't so fucked. Like it was fucked when I was a kid, but it wasn't this fucked.

>>43199777
Bro I understand you on this. I feel like I try and try and try but something about me is just repellent. I think I'm just a loser or something.

>>43200563
if you were my little loser i'd kiss you while holding your hands

>>43200576
Thanks bub

>>43200474
What are you then?

>>43200661
A dysphoric depressed staggot

>>43200312
Same same homie

bigen pls don't diegen

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>>43203466
Okay so to bump the thread I will tell you marriage toxin anime probably has a bisexual crossdresser.

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>>43144822
What should bi anon have done in this situation?

>>43204683
>find out parents and brother also tried them on as a joke
My nigga what

>>43204752
His family all shared a pair lol.

>>43204783
It's obviously fake but that line just stuck out to me as a "wtf"

I wonder if bi's ever wake up in the middle of the night, in a half-awake haze, they reach for their partner's genitals and, momentarily, feel strange that they aren't feeling the other gender's genitals.

>>43204790
idk ive met some weird ass families

>>43204808
No, I wake up in the middle of the night from nightmares about being married to someone who hates me. I'm not married. It happened again.

idk why I'm like this but I love people who are shorter than me, I'm not even a top or even that tall but the idea of a shorter man or women ruining me sounds amazing

>>43205759
I'm always surprised by the amount of guys that like getting topped by shorter guys, they go extra crazy when they find out you have a decent sized cock as well.

>>43205759
I wonder if that is why people want me to top... Not that anyone actually goes forward from flirting...

>>43200312
Ah, an anon of sophistication and refinement!

>>43200474
My condolences :(

>>43205821
NTA but my first top was a jacked 5'5" latino guy (I'm 5'11" white skinny nerd) and he was hot af and it was a great time

>>43200490
>>43200515

You’re both bi incels? I have an idea for how you two can help each other out

>>43205821
shorter men are just more handsome to me, I don't know if this'll sound silly but I feel like I would get too uncomfortable if I was getting with someone taller, I don't like people towering over me desu
>>43206340
too real
>>43206564
literally my ideal type

>>43204808
No, this has never happened to me

Don't know where to ask but just want some input please.
In my first relationship, been together for 2 and a half years now, broke up in the middle of it for 6 months, she had major issues at the time. I decided to give it another go. Things have been going much better now and really not much complaints about her, she's going therapy and trying to talk care of herself more etc.
But I have the feeling this really isn't for me, I don't even have a real explanation about why I'm feeling. I don't really see myself marrying her and I know she wants that. Just in general I don't feel like I love her anymore, I do care about her and always want the best for her but there's just something there where I'm not really.
There's no one else involved, I'm pretty much a loner, don't talk to anyone besides her. I feel if I do try end things, no matter how messy it ends up, I might be throwing away a good thing and I just don't realise it yet?
tl;dr uncertain about love and the long term, not sure if breaking up is a good idea and might be throwing away an actual good relationship

>>43208364
I would suggest asking her about this and be clear on what you're feeling, see a couples therapist if you want to, it may be because I have my own attachment issues but I always feel like if you care for each other then you both should make an effort and be clear when problems are happening. This is your first relationship so it might not just be for you but if you're doubting leaving her then try and work through with her on why first? If the love was there then try and capture it again, you're bound to feel it less and more at times.

Basically talk with her about this and not just random strangers on here, there's a reason you're doubting this

>>43208551
Yeah I did try talking about this to her like 2-3 months ago and her stance was like okay just see again in a month or two and see if youre still feeling the same way and was never to be spoken about again. She doesn't want to lose me at all so she'll do anything to steer away from that.
I guess reflecting on it a bit more, it's more just the small things that all add up. Like we do have a few common interests, when we get together it's pretty much just watch shows together and that's it. I dont have a car anymore, otherwise she would be begging me to go to one end of the country to the other. I have so many things I want to get done but she always wants my full and undivided attention but she'll end up talking for hours. I like being outdoors and doing my own thing.
She does ask me stuff like why do I love her and sometimes I don't know what to say, she gives me a lot of love but at the same time I feel that's pretty much it, I don't know what else is there to hold us together for the long term.
I know it's all ups and downs and it doesn't feel the same way forever but like it's been more down feeling for the past several months and my heart just isn't there anymore and idk what else to do

>>43208669
Wait is this long distance or did I misunderstand?

>>43208691
I guess kinda long distance now, I used to live like 50 mins from her and had a car, but I moved up to a city because of work and that's now like a 2hr30 drive away

Looking for some advice. Years back, I had sex with a guy for the first and only time, sucked his dick and bottomed. In the moment it was fun, but I absolutely hated the aftermath. Not a huge problem, I strongly prefer women.

But I'm unfortunately in a spot where I can't really expect any woman to want to date me, whereas getting some guy to screw me would probably be relatively easy if I'm not too picky. Recently, I've been fantasizing about and jerking off to getting with a man again. But I'm not sure if I'm just being prison gay, as I haven't been with anyone in a couple of years.

I honestly swore I'd never get with a guy again, the aftermath was so bad... but horny thoughts are trickling in. If I don't do it, how do I shake the desire? Or, should I take the plunge and do it? The other worry would be getting outed and I don't have a supportive group of people for that.

>>43208364
>There's no one else involved, I'm pretty much a loner, don't talk to anyone besides her.
This sounds like the root of the problem. Do you think if you had a sprawling social life rn, that you would still be with her?

>>43208669
shit, like I would try and get her to actually listen more this time but idk how that'll go, again I would say couples therapy might help but I do think this is something that you could get through with more communication, like what do you two even share for interests? If it's only watching tv then try and do other stuff for once
>>43208722
this is probably playing into it too, the more distance there is the more likely it isn't gonna work out, does she come over a lot or is it you that's always going over to hers?

>>43208743
Hard to say, perhaps wouldn't need a partner in the first place if I kept a few friend that I talked to regularly
>>43208805
Yeah I suppose I'll talk to her again when we meet up again next week, see how it goes from there.
I mean we like going places and stuff but don't have the means to do so. and gaming of course but hasn't really happened much, don't have much interest in playing anymore.
I have a lot of side project that I'm working on which honestly is a lot more interesting than being with someone and I'm always thinking about doing xyz.
>does she come over a lot or is it you that's always going over to hers?
Try to split it, we both work shifts so we try match the days off, sometimes I go down and sometimes she comes up

>>43208965
it sounds like you just need your own space to do stuff on your own but do you even want that kind of relationship with anyone? Cause it sounding like you don't really want anyone to date so I'm not sure if it's just you being tired of everything, questioning some sexuality stuff or just plain old depression. It sounds like all the stuff you would like to do together ain't possible right now so maybe that's bringing you down too? There's a lot going on from what you said and is something that really should be talked about

>>43209092
Yeah that's why I think I feel like I shouldn't be in one, I like doing things on my own still, pretty much still used to it. Wouldn't say I'm depressed or anything just perhaps it kinda feels like the relationship is a bit of a drag on me.
I guess the only way to go about this is to talk this worth her but I know she'll spin in it a way that everything is perfectly fine and we'll be together forever

>>43209269
>I guess the only way to go about this is to talk this worth her but I know she'll spin in it a way that everything is perfectly fine and we'll be together forever
Gotta put your foot down if she starts doing that. No half measures.

>>43209338
This, I feel pretty bad for her if you're viewing the whole thing between you too as a drag but you need to put your foot down if you want this to work, explain to her you need your own space. I feel like she's probably clingy so that might also be a problem too. I won't say to break up cause that's not my call but I would say to bring up these problems with her and actually communicate even if it's uncomfortable and hurtful, avoiding it is only doing more harm to the both of you

>>43208734
This is just my opinion but sex is sex
If you want it, be safe and go get it
One of the interesting things about being into men is if you're horny and willing to drop your expectations and preferences down a bit you can fuck or get fucked within a few hours with very little work
But I guess my question to you is: was your first experience with a man just unpleasant or actually traumatic?
Would being with a man again cause you serious mental anguish or just be disappointed in yourself for awhile?
Because you can try again if you just didn't enjoy the first time. If it seriously impacted you, maybe jerk off and think about why you were even considering being with a man again in the first place

i wanna have someone i own collars and not dogs with.

>>43209815
Pet play is extremely popular nowadays

>>43209876
yeah but i'm not.

>>43209429
>was your first experience with a man just unpleasant or actually traumatic?
A combo of both. Like, at the end of the night he got pretty weird and was talking about me moving to live with him and got mad I was putting on my underwear to go to bed, so I got dressed real quick and got out of there.

The traumatic part was not only feeling humiliated and used, blood when I used the bathroom the next couple of days, and more than anything, realizing I wasn't totally sure if he took off the condom and came inside me. I was drunk and not thinking clearly about making sure that didn't happen. I texted the guy and he assured me he didn't have HIV, but it was scary.

So, I had to find a doctor online to prescribe me HIV medication, which I wasn't able to get until I got home from vacation, which was right on the edge of when that medication works or not. So for a month, every day, I was diligently taking the medications, reminded every time I took the pill that I'd had gay sex for the first time. Then the anxiety over the STD test I had to take at one month and six months. I don't think I've ever had as much shame and regret about something in my life because I was thinking I'd be paying the rest of my life for that.

To your point, I do feel like I could find a guy to have sex with without much effort, and honestly it's so much nicer to be pursued than do the pursuing.

>>43208734
I also struggled for years with similar thoughts, regret, shame, all of it. I used to go on grindr, reddit and chatrooms just to get off with other men and then delete everything right after, swearing it would be the last time. Sometimes I'd go for months without thinking about gay stuff, only being interested in women, or trying to anyway.

Some time in 2023 I started getting really horny for men again and feeling it creep back in I finally said “fuck it” no straight man would in a million years think about fucking other men so I decided I’d stop trying to fight it. I started by jerking to gay porn without having straight porn open in another window as some ridiculous attempt to cope.

Slowly but surely it got easier, I accepted I was attracted to men as much as I was to women, the shame disappeared, so did the massive post nut regret. That’s when I jumped back into grindr and other chatrooms, this time without deleting my accounts.

Now I fully accept I’m bisexual. I’m still not out to my family, I have religious parents who I love but I don’t know how they’d react. I also don't go around telling people I'm bi or waving pride flags as I don't really feel the need to do that. I’m a jacked manly dude with a lot of typical straight guy hobbies so it’s always funny to see how people react when I do tell them I’m bi.

The hardest part is I’m also picky, grindr is full of fat slobs or creepy old men but it’s definitely easier to hook up with men than women but if you’re not attracted to other guy then it’s not enjoyable. If you find a guy you are genuinely attracted to and get to know him a bit, you will 100% have some of the best sex you ever had.

My advice is try to accept yourself because the desire won’t go away. Remember you are not forced to come out to anyone, what you do in the bedroom is no one’s concern and you don’t own anyone a goddamn thing. Life is short, be with who you want and screw the rest.

>>43209815
Same.
>>43209876
Being "owned" by someone seems nice when you have no relationships.
>>43209338
Stuff that leads to my nightmares.

>>43210061
This sounds a fair amount like me - no one would guess I'm bi or slightly into men. One big challenge though is that I almost never really have attraction to random men, meaning like, that feeling where you walk past a guy and go "wow, he's hot," whereas I do that with women ALL the time. It happens occasionally, but rarely.

I've done the Grindr and chatroom thing too, with the same cycle of deleting it and coming back, but honestly I don't like "gay" porn. It just absolutely never does anything for me, and I've tried many times without guilt. Sometimes I like trans porn if the "girl" is very attractive, but that's about it. It's more the carnal act of submitting, I guess.

Like you, my family and even plenty of friends wouldn't be very supportive. I also grew up here so getting on Grindr or anything with a real picture would probably end up in being outed... so I have to be VERY discreet. I'm openly supportive of gay and bi people IRL, so I'm not some wild closet case, it's just not something I want to make my identity or deal with angry parents, like you.

The guy I had sex with was objectively handsome, but I like to think I'd be fine with someone lesser, and I don't have to be as picky, as long as they're not smelly or obese. I do appreciate the advice. I just wish I could find someone normal for something discreet and clean with none of the other doubts.

>>43210177
Oh I don't either, I find regular females more attractive than regular males, men tend to take less care of themselves to point I find the majority of them repulsive.

You're probably attracted more to the female form and just like the dick and balls part of males, which is perfectly fine. I like both the male and female form, especially at their peak, both feel amazing.

I see the issue now, you basically never left your hometown so you haven't had the chance to actually meet new people and open yourself up to new experiences. I was like that too, if you can move out it will open up a whole new world for you and you will feel a lot more comfortable putting yourself out there. I don't know what your financial situation is though so I don't know if it would be possible.

You basically want a DL FWB you can trust, the issue with this is most of those guys are like you, terrified of getting outed and usually flake most of the time. It’s a fantasy that only exists in porn and larp stories. Being clean is a responsibility that falls on both parties and unfortunately a lot of closet cases don’t know the first thing about it. They’re not gonna walk into a clinic and ask for PREP because they’re terrified of the stigma.

Honestly you should try to move out of your town first and foremost, otherwise you’ll never be able to actually try new things with more feminine men you’re actually attracted to, you’ll grow older and be stuck blowing fat married dads in their car in the middle of nowhere.

>>43210431
Well, I did move away for college and honestly considered experimenting, but in that situation still happened to know too many people, so I wasn't willing to make it a thing. I live in a big city with people coming and going all the time, but it only takes one or two people to see it and say "oh wow, I saw anon on Grindr," and then it spreads like wildfire. I couldn't go to any of the gay bars here because I'd almost assuredly run into a gay friend.

Moving's not in the cards, and even if I did move, I don't think I'd immediately openly start dating men. It's just not a huge desire. Like you said, I'm attracted maybe to the cock and balls part of it (more than anything, I think anal feels great, and a toy doesn't necessarily feel the same). I'm not trans by any means, but I feel like if I could swap bodies and become an attractive girl with no stigma, I'd probably do it, and taking on the more submissive role is a total swap that's alluring... but not full time.

>They’re not gonna walk into a clinic and ask for PREP because they’re terrified of the stigma.
Yeah, I've been considering PrEP because I would bottom (no interest in topping) and therefore am way more at risk, but that becomes so complicated and scary. Stigma aside, with side effects or whatever, it could mess with me. And if I needed a surgery or something, my parents would probably be the ones to get exposed to my medical history. I already took post-exposure prophylaxis and was worried they'd somehow see it, visiting my house or whatever.

>more feminine men you’re actually attracted to
Not that it totally matters to your overall point, I'm more "attracted" to masculine men, not feminine. I did mention the trans porn thing, but because I more imagine myself on the receiving end. It's so much more the act than how guys look. I don't even like getting pegged, so it's maybe just a power dynamic.

>>43210087
lets hang out. what kind of callar do you want?

>>43210944
The tight belted kind that will leave a mark...
I'm into the kind of bdsm that leaves and "impression"

>>43211048
Perfect time to accidentally write and instead of an. Good job me.

>>43211130
I for one think it's cute when subs make typos

>>43210886
So you're basically on the same boat as a lot of bicurious guys who want to be sub bottoms with guys, but prefer to live their regular lives as straight, is that it? That will definitely require PrEP if you plan to keep hooking up with men. If you don't live with your parents then I don't see what the issue would be unless they have access to your medical history or go snooping around your house. Maybe talk to your doctor or something if you are concerned about privacy and set boundaries with your parents. Other than that the only thing that will help you is acceptance, I don't know where you live but if it's a big city then it's unlikely for news of you having sex with men to spread like wildfire like you imagine, there are probably many closeted guys in your city also going through the same thing, maybe even someone you know. I wish you luck and hope you find someone who can be your DL FWB but it will be hard unless you actively look for it, which means putting yourself out there and testing waters with other guys. Best of luck dude.

>>43208734
What was so bad about the "aftermath"?

>>43211217
"Sub bottom" might be a bit extreme and sounds a little too heavy on the kink, but bottom only, yes. I couldn't get it up for the guy I was with, but didn't want to anyways. But yes, I want to live my life as straight more or less since I don't think my sex life is worth upending my real life.

>That will definitely require PrEP if you plan to keep hooking up with men.
I don't know what I'm planning, but really absolutely don't want it to be casually hooking up with multiple guys on a regular basis. I can't even logically figure out how that'd work. I live alone, but used to have roommates, which was a barrier to experimenting. My options were shady hotel hookup or go to some stranger's house to get overpowered.

But yeah, my parents are snoops, and firmly believe in the "you should have nothing to hide" ideology. I've had them discover embarrassing (nothing too major, but embarrassing) shit in my house. And I had a medical issue a while back where I gave them some reasonable access to my history and meds because they needed to know. My doctor would probably act weird about it. I don't really like her but I'm stuck at the moment.

>I don't know where you live but if it's a big city then it's unlikely for news of you having sex with men to spread like wildfire like you imagine
I once accidentally put that I was open to men and women on a dating app and it took a friend under 4 hours to point it out. I'm guessing he's bi himself and that's why he saw it, but I know a lot of people and a decent amount are gay or bi. It just comes with growing up somewhere that's smaller than it seems.

Thanks for the well-wishes.

>>43211404
I kinda already told the story, but mainly the fear of HIV, the feeling of being used, the feeling of making a horrible decision that could impact the rest of my life, and honestly, that somehow, someone might find out, even though it was thousands of miles from where I live. It just plainly hurt, too (the aftermath, not the actual sex, that was surprisingly pretty easy).

But I found myself just sitting in the shower for a really long time feeling gross, even taking multiple showers a day. Retrospectively it doesn't feel as bad, but at the time it felt like the end of the world.

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>>43211130
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>>43211642
Honestly all your posts make it seem like you have some major internalized homophobia you need to work through, you had sex with a man and you are on an lgbt board because you want to keep having sex with men, you are definitely not as straight as you think you are. You are also scared shitless of people even imagining you like dick that you are forbidding yourself of being who you want to be, which must be a horrible thing to cope with, especially when you go through years of that bullshit. You need to accept you like dick and that in order to freely enjoy dick, you will have to come out at some point, otherwise you will be living in a hell of your own making until you die.

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>>43211214
You are just saying that to be nice.
>>43211881
Cannot spell bitch without bi. And I have a scratch I can't tch

Sleep well bigen <3

>>43211531
Really sounds like you have a lot of self loathing.

>>43213307
>I want to live my life as straight more or less since I don't think my sex life is worth upending my real life.
this told me all i need to know about him, classic closeted fag who can't cope with the fact he wants dick in his ass so he performs some insane mental gymnastics to convince himself he's still "straight"

>>43213362
Live life as a straight guy who loves to bottom for dick

>>43212785
I was saying it to be flirty actually

>>43213166
i will not i am very lonely.

>>43213866
Sounds like a great way to end up in a loveless marriage where you don't even dare to be honest with your partner, but hey, to each their own

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>>43214201
O-oh...
>>43215215
Again a major fear. Loveless marriage where you don't even want to live with the other person sounds like absolute hell.

>>43215215
That is a nightmare scenario, but at the same I fully understand that being openly bi as a man significantly shrinks your dating pool with women. It's a catch-22.

>>43216053
I probably wouldn’t put that I was big on a straight dating app, but I’d need to be open about it with anyone I was with long term. All of the women I’ve dated have also been bi, so it’s never been a big deal. I doubt I’d be compatible with anyone who had a problem with my sexuality anyway, so it’s kind of a moot point

>>43216053
I agree with >>43216082
For hookups I don't mention it when it comes up, but for dating I'm open. Being broadly tolerable to more people is less appealing than being a strong match with select people who are good matches for you. I only want relationships with bifujos (and am now engaged to one)

>>43216090
>when it comes up
unless* it comes up, which it basically never does

>>43216082
Kek “bi” not “big” xD

>>43216090
Yeah exactly this.

>>43216109
>>43216082
>Big
Well I sure hope you are, lol.

>>43216562
4 U?

>>43216562
lol, I’m not, but I like my penis. 5 inches, on the thick side, and nicely shaped (if you want to know lol). My partners have all seemed happy with it too :p

Does bigen have any weekend plans?

I’m working Sunday, but probably gonna go on a short day trip with my gf tomorrow. There’s a waterside park we go to sometimes to try and spot seals sunning themselves on rocky outcrops. Probably do that and grab lunch somewhere. Tonight I’ve got a discord call to plan a friend’s bachelor party?

>>43217031
I don't want to sound bad but are you like on estrogen or something? Because I was on it before and it did shrunk to the mid six inches range, idk if I'm being rude or not

>>43218102
Lol no I don’t mind you asking; I wouldn’t have volunteered that info if I was uncomfortable taking questions.

Nope, no estrogen for me, my penis has been the same way since reaching adulthood. I’m sure it wouldn’t be everyone’s cup of tea, but like I said I’m happy with it :)

>>43218267
huh, sorry for asking then, I'm sure it's nice desu since I know for a fact my gag reflex is horrendous, that's like one benefit to it lol

I know this is the bi thread but god damn it is going off estrogen is really hard, it's a detrans situation but holy fuck is it fucking with my head, I wasn't on it long enough for anything too permanent though

>>43218419
All good :)

in what way is it difficult? Are there bad side effects, or is it more like willing yourself to stop taking it is hard?

What made you decide to transition and later de transition, if you don’t mind me asking? I don’t have any particular stance on stuff like this, just curious. I’m in favor of bodily autonomy whatever people’s motivations are.

>>43218549
Both, like it's basically like going through male puberty again in the constantly tired and horny way, I'm not sure if I'll regret going off it, it's been like a week since I stopped so I still have a long way to recover fully, breast tissues was minimal so I think they'll be mostly gone in a few months (as well as my functionality)

The reason why I transitioned to begin with is because I always had problems seeing myself as a man since I was a kid, like sometimes I really want to be a women and other times I can handle the idea of being a feminine man, I don't really want anyone to say I was groomed into transitioning since I wasn't in the slightest, I always felt really uncomfortable being masculine even before I had access to the internet so I had nobody but myself to blame. It's weird to explain since I'm still figuring myself out, I liked a lot of what the estrogen was doing to me but in other ways I didn't, I think I'm just a guy who don't like to be all that masculine at this point. I know I feel dysphoric about a lot of stuff about being a man as well as apparently a women after this, I don't regret going on it since it was only a few months but there's definitely a few tranny stuff I'll still do even if I'm off estrogen now, like laser hair removal and a name change, might even go back on it in the future if I can get raloxifene

I probably sound like a confused mess desu

>>43144822
i have feelings for my (cis girl) best friend (thought i was straight before) but i still want to marry a man. how do i fix me
tranny btw

>>43218817
>how do i fix me
Distance yourself a bit and/or put more effort into dating men

>>43218894
sadly men dont like me back

>>43218797
>I probably sound like a confused mess desu

You actually sound very lucid, I think you’ve done a good job explaining your experiences; they must just be confusing to actually go through firsthand.

Thanks for explaining what going off e is like. I’d seen some other people in another thread talking about the process being unpleasant, but I didn’t want to butt into their conversation to ask for details.

I get where you’re coming from about not feeling fully comfortable male or female. I feel like I have a solid mix of typically masculine and feminine characteristics both in terms of my appearance and personality. I happen to like the mix I was born with, and “male” fits me well enough I’ve never felt the need to really call myself anything else. Wearing kind of fruity clothing and having sort of gay artsy haircuts has been enough for me to feel like my interior and exterior selves match each other.

I can definitely understand how that’s not enough for everyone, and I’m sympathetic to experimenting with your body to try and get to a point you’re happy with. I hope you reach a place you’re happy with sooner or later, and that the process isn’t more painful than it absolutely has to be <3

I don't know if i should hate myself or my family for pretty much ruining my teenhood by getting me sent to the psychiatry twice. Those pills seriously fucked me up and i honestly think they made me insane.

>>43219215
I'm surprised I sounded lucid desu, I've been drinking quite a bit rn so the fact I was able to get my thoughts coherently is pretty impressive, but thank you for the kind words =)

But seriously you can ask me how it's like but I was only on it for like three to four months, I don't mind anyone asking about that stuff since it's not like I'm being asked irl

The thing about me is I think I might like calling myself a dude while also coming across as a women, I guess all I can really do is experiment with myself till I feel right, I still have a pretty twinkish appearance and I think I would like to keep it like that even if it ends up with me taking estrogen again, I just don't like the idea of me being some fat hairy balding old man, I much rather age into an old women at that point

It just feels kinda weird still wanting to be a bi man while also wanting to get a bunch of gender affirming treatments done, I wonder how common that even is, especially with the name stuff

>>43219850
>thank you for the kind words =)
Np! I wouldn’t have guessed you’ve been drinking based on your writing xD

I think a lot of people would probably be better off thinking of their sexuality and gender as a process they feel out and get comfortable with rather than being categorically one thing or another. Some people 100% know what their deal is, but a lot of this stuff is also pretty squishy. I think it would be good to give ourselves the grace to figure things out over time, and be okay with getting things wrong occasionally too.

>It just feels kinda weird still wanting to be a bi man while also wanting to get a bunch of gender affirming treatments done
I’ve seen a couple threads on here of cis dudes on estrogen. Their reasons for doing it seem mixed. Fear of balding is probably the most consistent motivation.

>>43220367
Yeah, irl it's pretty obvious when I drink but I tend to be able to write and type out responses pretty well.

Sexuality wise I always knew I was bi even as a young kid, like I've always crushed on both girls, boys and even people I had no clue on what they were. I'm pretty sure I'm flexible with the way people view me, just as long as I'm not forced into some macho dom role I'm good.

It's not even that I'm scared of balding though, like my hair is damn near perfect, I don't think I ever had any hair loss and my hair is literally naturally a dark red, I actually get regular compliments on it plus if I ever see any problems come from it I could always just use regular hair loss stuff like dutasteride. It's more like the other stuff from being masculine that I wouldn't like, I like my face staying cute and facial hair being somewhat manageable (I might switch over to electrolysis if regular hair removal is a bust), I just don't like looking like a man really but I feel like there's more to it you know? Like I can see myself liking being a man somedays but wouldn't mind being a women some others, I don't want to sound like a weirdo with it but that is how my brain processes myself I think.

>>43220641
Yeah I was thinking your reasons for taking estrogen sound a little different than the guys in those threads. They seem like they want to use it to stave off twink death, whereas you’re more directly interested in leaning into your androgyny. Still might be worth popping in if you ever catch one of their threads. I might be overstating your differences. You might also get something out of comparing experiences with them, even if it turns out they’re not a natural community for you.

Also I agree about not wanting to be forced into a macho role. I was on my break at work the other day, and this woman I’m vaguely acquainted with came over and started hitting on me. It was flattering, but it was clear from what she was saying that she was trying to feel me out as a viable manly man provider type. I went along with it to be polite and hear some fun tea about mutual acquaintances, but the whole time I was thinking, “girl you’ve got the wrong idea about what kind of guy I am” xD

>>43220903
Yeah, I don't think it's to do much as twink death but more so that I would feel more comfortable being perceived as a girl at times, I'd pop into those threads but like I'm pretty sure that most of them ain't wishing they were they're an actual women at times, I think a part of me is scared of committing to it since I would lose that connection that gay men have and the ability to have my own kids (as well as a few other stuff), I'm honestly a bit more pished than earlier so fuck it, sometimes I think I may be some sort of gender fluid but I feel so so weird about it, like no normal person is like that, I really don't want to come across as one of those tiktok weirdos since I don't see myself as like that at all, so many of them just want attention while I'm over here like "the fuck do you mean you can be this and that and not feel any dysphoria???"

My god I get hit on by women sometimes but I swear it's the exact same situation with you, my type with women specifically have always been bi or lesbian women so you can imagine that when a straight girl ask me out I just flounder badly, like I'm barely a top and you want me to somehow be manly?? I won't go into detail about that part of my life but I always get so awkward around straight people due to all these social expectations, honestly I always had better experiences with bi folks since the one girl I liked turned out to be a lesbian pedo and the few boys I liked turned out to be straight, I'm yet to have a bad experience with someone bi

Just had my first sex dream about a man.

Admitted to myself I'm bi recently, probably overcame internalized homophobia, and it's been interesting how my perception changed desu

>>43221341
You can just be nonbinary/gender fluid or whatever without making a big deal out of it. I understand not wanting to be associated with that crowd, but it sounds like a good match for how you feel about yourself internally. You can just live your life how you want, and not give people a hard time about pronouns.

Yeah all of the women I’ve dated long term have been bi- and they’ve all been pretty good relationships too. I haven’t even sought out bi women specifically, it just seems to be the women I have mutual attraction and good chemistry with are all bi. The person at work just threw me for a loop because it’s like I’m a kind of faggy looking barista and an artist, what about that makes someone think “strong provider for my children”? lol

>lesbian pedo
Damn, that sounds like real horror story :o

>>43221465
Congratulations anon! Are you feeling good about yourself?

i would not mind at all if my significant other drugged, bound, and raped me without warning, as long as the acts performed were consistent with with what we did in normal bedroom romps and it weren't done in anger. i suppose practially there would be issues with bloodflow and lube, though.

>>43221465
what did kind of scene did you come up with? were you the top or the bottom?

>>43221621
I am thinking I'm probably one of those things but the problem with it is the fact I've never been in a place that would ever accept something like that, I'll probably end up getting with someone who accepts it but it is tough not having much of a clue on that part of yourself, it's probably best next to dwell on it too hard

I feel like bi people just been more accepting towards me then a lot of other groups, I used to be friends with this bi girl who had a massive crush on me but I didn't like her back, but it was comforting having someone who get the experience. Also that's funny af, who looks a man like that and think they're the straightest motherfucker on the planet!

And yeah it was, she was always so nice to me but then I found out she would get literally kids not even in the double digits to kiss her when she was in high school, I was horrified when I found out and would never admit to this irl because how the fuck do you explain that you liked someone who ended up being like that, still makes me sick to this day, there's more to the story but I don't really feel comfortable as it is pretty personal, I just feel disgusted about it I ever crushed on that thing

>>43221629
Yes, it somehow felt very validating because I'm still not really sure about whether I'm really into men.

More and more sure but I'll probably never be certain until I actually date a man.

I think a year ago I would have felt a lot of shame about it, but now there's no shame at all and that just feels great!

>>43221725
Probably not worth sharing on a blue board, but thanks for asking!

>>43221763
Are you happy where you’re living? If you’re in the US basically any blue city is going to have its share of enbies, and most people will have some idea of what they’re about. You could definitely move some place where you could have more opportunities for community, and not get a ton of unwanted attention in public.

>who looks a man like that and think they're the straightest motherfucker on the planet

lol exactly, you’re barking up the wrong tree lady xD

>there's more to the story but I don't really feel comfortable as it is pretty personal

All good, no need to dredge up a dark episode from your past :)

>>43222041
That’s awesome anon! :D moving past that sense of shame really feels liberating. I remember what an enormous deal liking dudes felt like before I accepted it. Even if that never turns into a big part of your life it just feels great not having the fear of it hanging over you

Have a good weekend bigen

>>43221763
>I just feel disgusted about it I ever crushed on that thing

I get what you mean, but you don't control who you get a crush on, so you really shouldn't beat yourself up about it.
You know how lots of women fall for Dahmer? I don't think they're all bad people either

>>43222213
>Even if that never turns into a big part of your life it just feels great not having the fear of it hanging over you

Exactly, thank you anon. I really feel so seen and supported by you and others in this thread, it's been great to have you all while starting to figure this all out

I feel like I take care of everyone in my life and no one takes care of me.

>>43222213
Oh I hate where I'm living, I think I would prefer to live in the us since scotland is hellish for a lot of lgbt stuff, especially when it comes to gender stuff but much less so for gay shit, Oregon seems good especially if it's by the sea so it kinda been a pipe dream for a while, I don't think I would like to live in a massive city

But yeah I know the girl was somewhat troubled but not in that way, hopefully she's in prison because jesus christ she's disgusting
>>43223688
Eh, I feel like the main difference between me and someone who loves dahmer is I didn't know wtf was up with them and instantly got turned off the moment I did know

I expected a hangover desu but it's surprisingly not even there, I had whisky and everything too lol

Wild that bigen is actually reaching bump limit again

>>43225892
Do all of the crazy anti trans laws coming out of England apply up north in Scotland as well? Sorry, not really sure how stuff like that works across the constituent parts of the UK.

I’ve never been to Oregon or the Pacific Northwest of the US, but everyone I know who’s spent any time there has really liked it. I’ve lived mostly in the Northeast, Southern California, and the mid Atlantic.

I would wait and see what happens here post trump before seriously entertaining any ideas about moving to the US. Like I said blue cities feel safe for queer and gender non-conforming people, but a lot of shit seems very unsettled currently.

>>43223688
>feel seen and supported
<3

>>43224980
I’m sorry anon, that sounds unfair and frustrating