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herro my name is rucy and this is my stolly about my white boyfliend
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>So anon, did you like the story I sent you? I worked really hard on it.
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>>25107946
Why do these people wear the largest, ugliest glasses they can find? and why is she wearing a bed sheet for a shirt? I don't get the point of the 24/7 grindset striver life if you're going to just look and dress like shit
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>and then he bred me, aryanly
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"wmaf are people too"
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>>25107882
every fucking piece of fiction and poetry published in anything now is autofiction/blog dogshit from women about receiving a text, drinking some wine and thinking about their boyfriends or their kids or something. Burn the modern publishing industry to the fucking ground. It's fully done.
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>>25107966
a novel by tw1nkd3str0y3r would be a THOUSAND times more interesting, well written, and valuable to the human race than ching chong bing bong look at me write autofiction that sucks I'm an asian-american woman that got PUBLISHED with this because of my race and gender!
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>>25109100
https://www.thegeorgiareview.com/posts/hatchling/
The story.
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>>25109060
>Thus is just bragging directed at other Asian women
It it is directed at other Asian women, why is she tanned? Why can't she haggle? She is *defiled* by whiteness, the white is the crude huge uncultured beast of Asia with an enormous bull cock.
Reread the story as blacked porn with the nouns changed.
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>>25109102
>https://www.thegeorgiareview.com/posts/hatchling/
>What slaughters me is my own inertia.
Oh, she's an azn Holden. Where's her sister.
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The fact that the single most recognizeable cultural export of a society that wants to think of itself as post-ethnic such as Weimerica is interracial porn and narrativized interracial anxiety is both incredibly rivelatory and incredibly funny
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>>25109160
Currently at 3,740 posts about this on Twitter and counting. Crazy!
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>>25107882
Nice try demiurge
On the next page it's revealed this is all a metacommentary making fun of modern writing trends
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And the problem is?
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>>25109102
Fascinating that the story's main character doesn't acknowledge the fetishization goes both ways -- he's with her in part because she's Asian, she's with him in part because he's white. (How else to interpret staying with him despite the constant microaggressions, both real and implied?)
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>Feeding her her own abortion.
Meh. Bourgeois, and kleine burgher at that.
With another 20 years she might write something worthwhile, if she actually inspects anyone other than her self by forcing stones into her cunt (she writes of this).
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>>25107882
This faggot censored himself because muh racism. God fucking damn this is why nothing can ever improve, because cowards like this who had genuine critiques bow down to the "if you criticize an asian in any way you are racist and therefore the worst person on Earth" narrative. Nothing will ever ever improve or change for the better if no one has the nuts to stand by what they say.
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>>25107882
Honestly, this is above average prose about a boring subject matter. Not worth getting mad over. Resist the temptation to get yourself worked up as if this is somehow a profound injustice. Its a fake outrage by sad, resentful people.
Many people will make mediocre art and many mediocre people will praise it, like they have done for all of history. Eventually the gold will get panned out of this endlessly running muddy stream, (and even then imperfectly) and thats how you get canonical literature. Half of the slop you like will likely be forgotten in a similar manner.
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I had a Chinese girlfriend once and she was obsessed with fucking everyplace but the bed too. We would start in bed, but then she'd get up and lead me around the apartment with my fully erect cock swinging around after her skinny ass. We'd do it on her desk, then she'd realize it made too much noise banging against the wall, then we'd move to the coffee table, then the sofa, and so on. I didnt get it. Missionary is missionary regardless of what she's laying on.
At night we would take a bath, go to bed, fuck, and then we would get so sweaty we'd have to take a second bath afterwards. We would wake up in the morning, brush our teeth, then go back to bed and fuck before she went to work. One time I fucked her so good she started crying. Afterwards she went on her iPhone and looked up "what does it mean if I start crying during sex?" For the rest of the week she smiled and said she couldnt believe that I broke her brain like that.
Rucy, if you're reading this, your prose is shit.
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>>25109167
>Tries to peddle outrage
>Ends up getting her a book deal before she even matriculates
>Ends up using the advance to take more BWC filled vacations
He must be a twink because he absolutely destroyed himself
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>>25109515
>Eventually the gold will get panned out of this endlessly running muddy stream, (and even then imperfectly) and thats how you get canonical literature.
I get that but the problem is there's no gold in the stream to begin with.
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>>25109555
Yes. But previously American authors weren't cookie cutter kleine burgher.
>>25109540
Read Kristeva. Men can cry too but not from phallic sex.
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>>25109559
Please tell me where to find the good stuff then. I'm sure there are genuinely good writers out there but as far as I can tell it's all been tossed out in favor if shit like OP.
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>>25109566
There are no easy answers, it's not like asking for recommendations for books from the 20th century where we've had decades to digest everything and some consensus has been reached as to what was at least good. The closest you'll get are short lists for book awards. You've just got to go out and look at publisher's sites and literary magazine reviews of new fiction or interviews with authors and decide what to read and determine for yourself is it's good.
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>>25109579
>stuff written by women and minorities
It's not even to do with "muh DEI, muh woke". The shit written by white guys isn't good either. Granted I'm more interested in poetry than prose but desu that's in an even worse state.
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lmfao
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At one point did literature come to mean "crying about the same things over and over?" How many more stories written by women, crying about nothing. Are we gonna get. Where is all the cool shit. Where are the space lasers and shit.
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>>25109622
Now now anon, we've already had plenty of stories of space lasers and space wizards and space hitlers
Now it's time for strong independent women to write about things that actually matter like...
>opens random page on a book
white penis
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>>25109515
>this is above average prose
It's above average prose if you read paperback sffslop, I guess. It's certainly far better than what the average /lit/tard can do. (Check the /wg/ thread if you don't believe me.) It's perfectly average prose if you read contemporary literary fiction. That distant, detached narrator, first-person retrospective, cleverly poetic turns of phrase, staccato sentences for emphasis, etc. Pick up any university literary journal (Iowa Review, Georgia Review where this story appeared, Ploughshares, Gulf Coast, etc) and you'll find the same prose style replicated in a dozen different stories. It's the collective voice of 21st c. American literary fiction.
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>>25109667
Definitely not above the average prose here. /wg/ is no standard. Anyone with a brain is not writing anything too good or original out so it can be stolen by ai or people with large twitter accounts. That's how it's been for years now.
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>>25109667
>That distant, detached narrator, first-person retrospective, cleverly poetic turns of phrase, staccato sentences for emphasis, etc. Pick up any university literary journal (Iowa Review, Georgia Review where this story appeared, Ploughshares, Gulf Coast, etc) and you'll find the same prose style replicated in a dozen different stories. It's the collective voice of 21st c. American literary fiction.
This is true but I think the opening two paras are well below that standard. It comes across as really clunky from beginning to end. For example, she writes "are newly returned from holiday travels." There's no need for her to word this to include "are" as the verb, "newly returned" doesn't flow and just isn't the sort of thing people say (who says "hey I'm newly returned from Spain"), and same goes for "holiday travels." None of these odd choices contributes anything to the rhythm or meaning or tone. She could have just said "we just got back from our vacation." The only way this would work is if she's deliberately trying to write a protagonist who is ESL.
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>>25109733
> For example, she writes "are newly returned from holiday travels." There's no need for her to word this to include "are" as the verb.
yeah she does, you dumb mongoloid
>are newly-returned…,
>are tanned and aching…,
>are stuck with $10…
sentence wouldnt even be grammatically valid without it. jesus christ. park your id-pol hyperfixation for even a second, you dumb vapid cunt.
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>>25109742
you objectively cannot and thus will not do that because my mother has 4 houses.
>>25109688
i doubt it because anyone with a braim could either or both:
1. deploy ai countermeasures,
2. publish to a publicly timestamped platform in order to pursue plagiarism claims perhaps after first enjoying the bump in exposure when some online microcelebrity passes their work off as their own.
>>25109756
youre probably right ive changed my mind— dont share your dogshit work after all and go fix either your writing style or your terrible self-esteem problems instead.
>>25109757
if i freshen up on junior high grammar dogma, sure.
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>>25109763
No such thing as ai counter measures are you retarded?
And I've literally had shit stolen from me on thus site and when i posted about it on my uncheck'd tw*tter with zero followers nobody gave a shit so fuck off cunt.
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>>25109773
promising writers smash through walls, not walk through open gates.
>>25109776
there are, youre just not aware of them and are getting immediately scooped or being left behind.
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>>25109778
Smashing through walls would also constitute wiping out the competition. I'd personally love to drive the New Yorker, the Paris Review, Rattler, and the rest of the old-guard magazines into bankruptcy, but I'm not sure how we're going to accomplish that. I suppose Trump destroying USAID was a good start.
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>>25109788
>living in reality
>wanting to be a writer
whatre you, stupid? go reënroll in college and get an engineering degree.
>>25109791
im unconvinced so, no, it wouldnt.
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>>25107882
>meanwhile hopeless romantics and sensitive young men end up commiting murder suicide
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>>25109850
thats why is asked 7th
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>>25109829
checked, but no history books and hagiographs and theology or philosophy and also no translations or altering of former texts or fragments of epics which existed since way before and full version manuscripts come from later centuries, basically fiction which survived on its own, and also no carmina
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>>25109850
>Bricriu's Feast
Is just a crib of the marriage of The White Goddess to the King for a Day.
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>>25109897
We have started a half-dozen journals here on /lit/ over the years. Invariably, inevitably, they become the domain of schizos and autists who always crash out and take the magazine down with them.
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>>25109909
In his introduction Robert Graves clearly states that his evidence is "that it came to him in an erotic dream and it is his fetish." Someone that honest about the basis of his evidence being that, "It makes my dick hard for 15 year old boys to be flayed alive and raped while drunk by packs of women," is a valid method of demonstrating religious argument.
It also helps that the Old Testament is full of trans cock sucking.
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>Rucy Cui is a writer from San Jose, California, who has also called Texas, Wyoming, and the south of France home. Her stories have been awarded the Barry Hannah Prize and the Bennington Fiction Prize. Her nonfiction appears in Lonely Planet. A 2024–26 Wallace Stegner Fellow at Stanford University, she has received support from Monson Arts, Ucross Foundation, the Sewanee Writers’ Conference, and other organizations. She is currently at work on a novel.
She's 1000% rich and got this far because of her family.
That sort of thing was always the playing field for the children of the wealthy and connected.
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>Rucy Cui is a writer from San Jose, California, who has also called Texas, Wyoming, and the south of France home
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>>25109746
It’s the ugly ones that are like this. One look at this gross slantwhore should cure you if you’re ensouled
>>25110107
Bad bait or kys
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>>25110102
Japanese traditional "bluegrass" is really great. All those cool licks in vidya? That's just traditional Jap music in a synthesizer.
The Chinese have some great philosophers too, it's just that, as with Buddhism, only the most souless materialist, rationalist stuff has been allowed to come to the West. They have their own parallel, similar, but different version of form/matter, their own unique version of the One, Nous, etc. But mostly the lame stuff that synchs well with materialism and liberalism shows up here, even though it is actually less relevant for most of history. Also, the CCP banished it all as "reactionary" and scholarship of Chinese philosophy in China is only now recovering.
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chinese women do be throwing other
chinese women under the bus regularly
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I read the story. The stuff where other races think their neuroses are profound is getting very tiresome. It is not art. The parts where she anguishes about eurocentric beauty standards; no one is doing this to her. If she feels less attractive and has a psychological complex where she compares herself to others, this is a personal issue requiring therapy. It is not white peoples fault. If she feels that way, as an american; america has historically been a white nation. So this is the most emphasized type of person in media, or was.
But beyond all of that, the story is very poorly written. It is heavy handed. I am not so hypersensitive...if it was well written, or explored through better devices, id be fair. Its very bad writing. It reads more like a diary entry than literature.
This alone proves that today, the literati selects not for quality and achievement in the medium, but for ideological adherence, and box checking of demographics.
The literati has discredited itself. These awards and "prestigious" groups are worth nothing.
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>>25110261
about ten years late lil nigga
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>>25109793
Sister, I already have a stem degree and read write for fun. Don't tell me you spent a quarter million dollars on a humanities degree so you can umlaut consecutive vowels on a Mongolian basket weaving forum. Diaerrheasis
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>>25110329
Always funny to see stemfags flexing their stemfag degree on /lit/ as if we give a shit about their stemfaggery
>>25109555
>trips
Checked.
>our time isn't worse than average for literature it's just average
True
>>25107946
Honestly she's cute. Would fuck her on every flat surface and then ghost her. Over/under on her current boyfriend being white?
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>>25110557
The fourth story currently listed on the home page of The New Yorker's fiction and poetry page is by Joseph O'Neill, who is a white Irishman who has a woman writer spouse.
The first story in the current issue of Harper's is by Andrew Norman Wilson. I dont know what genitals he sticks his dick in but he looks pretty straight to me. Pic related.
The second story in the current issue of Paris Review is by Alec Niedenthal. White man, looks like your classic performative straight guy in Brooklyn.
The first story in the current issue of Ploughshares is by JP Gritton. White man, likely straight.
Do you need more?
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>>25110261
Do these people genuinely believe that euro women being considered the most attractive is purely a cultural thing? I'm not a chud but even when I account for cultural preferences, people of european descent are just self-evidently the most attractive physically. There are incredibly attractive women of all kinds, of course, but the top 10 percent of any non-euro ethnicity is always going to come out second to the top 10 percent of euro women.
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>>25110579
Because it is. Now answer it.
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>>25110461
>Honestly she's cute. Would fuck her on every flat surface and then ghost her. Over/under on her current boyfriend being white?
>T.
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>>25110593
I did try looking all of them up to see what I could find:
>Andrew Norman Wilson
Just found articles and shit about him being an artist. Couldn't see any written works.
>Alec Niedenthal
Only found some bullshit story about him visiting Auschwitz and read the first couple paragraphs. Prose not impressive.
>Joseph O'Neill
Most notable work is a novel about a Dutch guy living in New York before and after 9/11. Might be kind of cool but nothing awe inspiring.
>JP Gritton
Most notable work is a novel about some guy trying to get money from drug smuggling after getting laid off. Again, might be cool but I read the first page or so and again, prose was not impressive.
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>>25109258
>Fascinating that the story's main character doesn't acknowledge the fetishization goes both ways -- he's with her in part because she's Asian, she's with him in part because he's white.
This is an actually insightful subject for a story. Well-done, Rucy!
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>>25110624
So you're saying you didn't actually read any of them and discovered nothing in the process, got it. I also see that you're still in your middlebrow phase as a reader where "prose" is your immediate barometer of literary quality. I'm afraid you'll really have to grow out of that if you're going to appreciate fiction, and actually reading new literature will help you with that.
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>>25110632
>I also see that you're still in your middlebrow phase as a reader where "prose" is your immediate barometer of literary quality.
If a story doesn't hook you in the first few sentences, it's probably not that great. Sorry not sorry.
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To be clear, that's a frying pan.
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>>25110640
>putting yourself at the risk of being bamboozled by a couple of frontloaded paragraphs
if you were even a remotely intelligent person and did actually believe that, you would sample from 2 random paragraphs instead to make sure the story is consistently hooks on hooks all the way through
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Well here you are, it's apparently about dog shows and it seems kinda hilarious.
https://harpers.org/archive/2026/03/that-telltale-tingle-andrew-norman -wilson-dog-show/
> (Here’s some advice: if you ever find yourself in an elite MFA program that offers no bankable skills to bootstrap yourself out of the debt you’ll incur, latch on to a member of the Wilson Sporting Goods dynasty so that when she decides to have children with your closeted best friend–future boyfriend, you’re poised to take on the role of live-in nanny.)
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Why do they white worship so much though? It can't be a status thing anymore because whites are borderline replaced and downwardly economically mobile.
I can understand having this mentality in the 1970s when the Chinatown was 5% of a 90% white city, but the world has changed so much. Asians are living in areas where whites are already the minority and they're still obsessed with whites.
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>In the morning, I join a stand-up meeting that becomes derailed by my manager reviewing breaking update mobile game changes ahead of another meeting. I hike my pants up and sit down, jingling. As usual, without finesse, he name-drops his past job at a social media app linked to the destruction of democracy.
>Finalize the front end, my manager says. When I was at Company X—, every view was tested more than twice before it was coded.
>The way he moves through the world is intoxicating, like he is at any point primed to be sucked off or to have his throat slit. Because he’s white, he was hired for his communication skills. Everyone on our sprint team is Chinese or Indian, underpaid in comparison, though not underpaid in general. He often confuses me, the Chinese-American, with the only other woman on our team, a Chinese national. There is one Black woman upstairs in marketing. A rock star, corporate agrees, before putting her on all the recruiting materials.
It really is shocking to realize that this is how the majority of graduates from elite universities see the world. Zero depth of thought or identifiable ability to think outside their immediate radius. Mindless adoption of some political package. Just how?
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>>25110842
The white west still confers elite cultural prestige. You see this most clearly in high art, ivy league education, and Fortune 500 corporations, all of which east Asian societies still lust after. They do so exactly because they have economically overtaken us on average. You could call it the colonial mindset, if you want to go down that road. If they ever decide they don't need elite cultural prestige from the west, and that their painters, universities, and tech companies are just as desirable and good as ours, we might be screwed.
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>>25110919
Except art is jewish hollywood multiracial slop, non-jewish whites are discriminated down to like 10-20% of the Ivy Leagues, China has their own decent tech industry and western tech is being conquered by Jeets.
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>>25107882
>This evolutionary adaptation came easily to both of us, yet troubled only me.
So did it come easy to her or trouble her? If she was troubled by how easily it came to her then shouldn't she specify?
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>>25109661
>This Is Just To Say
>I have stolen
>the white boyfriend
>that was in
>the Bay Area
>and which
>you were probably
>hoping
>to fuck on every flat surface
>Forgive me
>we were tanned and aching at the joint-seams
>bathed in equatorial sweat and pheromones
>slick as babies
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>>25110842
>It can't be a status thing anymore because whites are borderline replaced and downwardly economically mobile.
Although white birth rates have begun to rise again, at least in North America, while the other races are seeing their birth rates collapse further.
Also birth rates are fucking cratering in other parts of the world, you think it's bad in Asia you should see South America.
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>>25110842
Because they find us attractive. They like our skin tone, they like our hair colors, our eye colors, they like how tall we are, and they like our "deep" facial features, by which they mean hunters eyes and sharp noses, and they like our monster magnum dongs.
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>>25111135
*autisticBBCTwinkRapist*
my bad
>https://youtube.com/shorts/sdPC-oiH-hs?si=RscW7wqS5LLP-vrP
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>>25111017
It troubles her because if the racial situation was reversed, she would reject her partner on the basis of race. Non-whites dating white people are often really jumpy because they, in their bones, know their partners are dating down. They know it's the decline of white identity that even allows them to date. They are terrified of one day their partners, and other white people, seeing the world as they do.
You see this most especially in churches where sleazy shitskins exploit the universalism and basically guilt trip entire white families into allowing them to destroy their bloodline.
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>>25111155
i think you are a retard generally,
but can agree that only the narrator recognises the precariousness of their relationship. that, should it ever occur to her boyfriend the lowered social status that a mixed-race relationship confers, he may choose to end the good thing they are both so easily enjoying on the mere basis of her ethnicity.
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the author choose to include this dynamic to create tension in the reader if the reader is worldly enough to pick up on it. you seem not to be, which is why this confused you.
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>>25110569
>look up Harpers
>they still require you to mail in a physical copy of your story
Huh, I was initially kind of annoyed, but now that I think about it, that's probably a pretty good filter. Weeds out the people not serious about getting published.
I think I'm gonna mail them something, bros. Wish me luck.
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Why would I read anything by an Asian woman? Latinas are the only non-White females with SOVL. Thanks be to the Virgen de Guadalupe
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I loved Rucy Riu in Charlie's Angels
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>While you were writing fantasies of white men I was studying the BLADE, and by mastering the CUTTING EDGE became attractive to the white men.
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>>25109063
This shit makes me mad. They have the audacity to think they deserve your time. Their writing is worse than worthless.
>>25109511
>well written
Dude, be honest.
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At my my university we had both a college newspaper and a literature rag. Instead of cool stuff you'd actually want to read, it was filled with mostly these long retarded "essays". Written both by staff and writing students imitating the staff. Once in a while one was cute or interesting but that was rare. OP writing reminded me s-t-r-o-n-g of that exact vibe. "I'm not white. Listen as I describe my privileged life, better than most people born here. But I will complain about feelings I get that I imagine go on inside other people's heads." And we reward this bullshit with awards. Amazing.
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>>25111631
now *that's* a wife worthy of yellow fever. You can come home to find the police there taking her statement how she cut the nigger breaking in to home invasion the house? In *half*. I like how the first slice is so perfect, it doesn't yet fall down until the second. Nigger cut in half? "Flawless Victory".
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>>25110640
>If a story doesn't hook you in the first few sentences, it's probably not that great. Sorry not sorry.
how many actual great works of literature as well as famous works of modern fiction, have a slow build. The ultra-modern "bullshit" is applicable to a comic book review, maybe.
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>>25109529
I know this person Jean TwinkDestroyer. She's an asian woman with literary aspirations too. It's an asian woman on asian woman violence kind of situation.
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this guy knows
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This is incredibly typical of the Asian-American mindset that they present in so much of their literature as deep and insightful but comes off as trite to anyone but themselves. Inferiority complex, ingrained racial insecurity, and a propensity to blame it on white people. I kept rolling my eyes at every not-believable racist encounter until at the end of the story she admits it's all bullshit. At least she's aware that it's her neurosis.
Good prose, dumb story, unlikeable narrator-protagonist.
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>>25109102
obligatory.
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>>25109661
well played
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kek'd
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>>25109417
Race traitors are generally losers and autists who cannot into actually relating to a woman or falling in love. They basically want a roomba with a pussy attached, which is why asian women appeal to them, because asia has browbeaten women with rigid rules and poverty for centuries.
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