>>25109025
Same thing with Frankfurt School and Adorno honestly. He genuinely would appeal to a conservative more than today’s leftists

Utterly meaningless and confused post

>>25109025
Conservatism is just as retarded as progressivism

There's nothing to conserve and nowhere to progress

>>25109025
I have this feeling too. All conservatism does is to try to hold on to accidental societal features instead of protecting the core of the concepts that are important to them. Religion is a perfect example, because modern conservatives treat Christianity like a symbol that has lost its original reference, replacing it with accidental stuff like race, nation capitalism. (This last sentence sounds really leftist, but I’m not even left-leaning, just a Christian noticing the signs of the time)

>>25109025
>post baudrillard
>expects to survive the next 24h.

rip.
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>>25109025
Read Leviticus through Nehemiah. Forced femmeboi orgies in cerebration of the feminist mother God *is* traditional culture. That cock isn't going to suck himself.

>>25109025
>left-leaning
You have down syndrome, you mental midget

That's because both mainstream lefties and conservatives are liberals. Liberalism is the worst cancer the world has ever known, and it is the actual cause of the decline, not only of the west, but of all cultures that are exposed to it.
Liberalism is the political side of capitalism, and capitalism is the economical side of liberalism. Both are actually the same. Neither believes in sincerity.

Unroot liberalism-capitalism, and you will have a real culture.

>>25109025
Except those left-leaning intellectuals would actually be considered conservative by modern standards
Heck most libcucks would call them fascist if they actually understood what it took to put their ideas into practice

>>25109025
i read some of this guys works 6 years ago and its literally pointless.. things just get worse and no amount of reading Baudrillard does anything.

Gay and stupid rather read some science fiction, philosophy is retarded

>>25109807
You sound like the retard if I'm being honest, dawg.

>>25109207
What does it even mean to unroot liberalism-capitalism?
In practical terms.

>>25109039
>There's nothing to conserve and nowhere to progress

There is Jesus Christ.

>>25110124
You meant the king of kings who fights Lucifer.
Your Christ literally died and rose again, and died and remained a warrior.

>>25109026
Probably because he was a Marxist and commies back then where practically die hard fascists compared to liberal progressives today.

>>25109025
Hyperreality is an overblown concept and isn't novel. Its pseudery. This guy (i can never remember how to spell his last name) didnt tread any new ground. Spengler already articulated the idea of a civilization becoming recursively self referential, and it wasnt new when he did it either. I found simulacra pedantic

>>25110122
To return to a system where the individual isn't at the center, and where trades involving money (as opposed to bartering) is frowned upon. See 6th century BC Sparta, for example.

>>25109807
Yes, that's right, life is meaningless, the universe was created because God is bored.

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>>25109025
Nick Land on Baudrillard.

>>25110299
no, philosophy is pointless life is fine just spend time with your family love them and find a nice wife to love and make kids spend good time with them

Reading Baudrillard is pointless and retarded

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>>25109025
Wrong, preemptively disproven

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>>25109025
>What is the epitome of hyperreality in the current zeitgeist?

'The 12 Day [third gulf] War" (did not happen).

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>>25109025
>left-leaning intellectuals
lol

>>25111492
Bubba sp *burrrp* sks

>>25110280
>Sell me on it. How will I benefit from your ideology?
>you won't.
>oh.

>>25109026
>Adorno
have you even read him or are you talking out of your ass again?

>>25109025
>What is the epitome of hyperreality in the current zeitgeist?
Generative AI.
For once, the "luddites" are not uneducated workers, but creatives. People ranting about AI slop are more likely to be left-leaning.

>>25109807
Well he is deceased. But if you had read him when he was alive and writing you may find his observations and descriptions cut right to the heart of present dilemmas and systems.

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>>25111553
nta but think for yourself for just a minute you fucking moron. what “you” are is culturally conditioned. a culture functions like a body. individualism is quite literally cancer. fuck this place holy fuck

>>25109025
You don't have the priors for this. The reason Baudrillard's particular critique is so effective is because the left in his time were still trying to engage from an older method of production. So to someone without the priors it appears this way. The critique works regardless of political affiliation. If one person is just left alone with the simulation it's possible to make an internal conclusion that acts as a corroboration, but this isn't something that has to occur of necessity. Baudrillard also had a Nietzschean modifier for a remap to Aristotelian where the person uses priors to navigate past to present and present to future, Ubermensch to artisan where the master is the initiatory sequence and the slave is the completion sequence once the environment has sufficiently responded to the master.

>with no priors you can still use the critique
>it appears simple
>you may not even be aware it also applies to you
>once you have the theoretical background to understand why the critique works it becomes significantly more complex almost to a point where you may no longer think you understand it
>it still works regardless
>it still applies to you

Once you fully grasp each node is a simulation then you can start worrying about hyperreality. Baudrillard's critique can even be retroactively applied to Hegelian priors for knowledge now. It can be retroactively applied to any philosophy where will is the accepted prior. Really just about anything meta can be remapped with the critique. Eventually the critique just becomes the authoritarian, it doesn't matter whether the prior is a paradox, a substance, a substitute, an essence, a definition, banalities like whatever is being done, just existence, subsistence, even priors like birth, death, and sex, none of those matter in this sense. Each time a node requires network access for symbols the critique expands. At this point there isn't even one concept it's almost more like a range. This is why someone who can use the critique can seamlessly reorient it back into the framework of the original sequence, except each time the priors are updated, you don't get the original module of sequences back. This is also part of the critique.

>>25109025
>people who dismantled society would be better conservatives
How about no?

>>25109025
a deeply funny recurring theme is that (generally speaking) left-wing intellectuals have read/encountered/appreciated more high culture than their right-wing equivalents. this pattern holds for both academics and average joes. any honest conservative realizes this but doesn't like talking about it. dishonest conservatives will think this means "oh so bluehaired twitteristas know more about poetry than ts eliot is that what you're saying huh," which is an excellent example of their dishonesty. trumptards will do neither and screech something incoherent about trannies, which is an excellent example of their retardation

The biggest mistake of Mao was ignoring Hegel and pretending you could start from year 0. A lot of Western philosophers realized it wasn't all about resetting but actually building on previous knowledge

>>25112990
And a body is as healthy as its components retard. Collectivists think you can beat people with a stick into happiness or something; it demonstrates such a fundamentally nonsensical and demented picture of humanity that you have to wonder how one ends up thinking like that