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Is this book any good, if anyone here has read it? Im not expecting high literature or anything, it just seemed kind of cool in concept and I'm thinking about picking up the hardcover
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This reasoning is just as braindead as that of people who only read books recommended by booktokers.
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>>25110706
Was just looking for any recommendations, positive or negative. I'd seen a bunch of praise for it but also some posts talking shit about the writing and some plot points.
Are the characters depicted as having attitudes/personalities at least somewhat realistic for the time period? Does the book lean toward a reddit tier "religion bad" vibe?
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>>25110777
>Are the characters depicted as having attitudes/personalities at least somewhat realistic for the time period?
Yes, I would say so. It's written with a medieval Christian worldview in mind. That has more mythologising than a modern Christian view, but it's not written to detract from Christianity.
>Does the book lean toward a reddit tier "religion bad" vibe?
No, I didn't detect anything like that at all. The story isn't really about whether religion is good or bad, it's just taken as a given that Christianity is true by the characters. All of the devils are unambiguously evil monsters. It's been a while but there might be some question of "why has God left us to this?" but if I recall rightly, some characters think it's because people aren't Christian enough.
I suppose it slightly depends on what you think of as Old Testament "punishing God" as a "religion bad" angle, but no, it's not Reddit-like.
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>>25110782
People who complain about "the gay" are completely missing the point of the novel. The whole novel is about different people's relationship with god. The "gayness" is a conflict between the character's love for god, and something unchangeable and inherent that makes him feel unworthy.
really fucking sick of plebs on here reducing everything to edgy midwit political discourse.
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Ok cool, I think I'll probably pick it up then. Thanks for the recommendation
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People were shilling it here long before e-whores and booktok
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>>25110549
I dropped it. It felt empty and it read like a shonen in prose format.
Also what the fuck? I was about to tell you not to get the physical copy with that cover because it looks ugly, but I just checked the price and it somehow ballooned up to 400 bucks? I got this shit for 30 tops.
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>>25110777
>Does the book lean toward a reddit tier "religion bad" vibe?
Depends. God and Christianity is factually true in the book. A demon is acting as the Pope so there is lots of satanic stuff happening in the Vatican when they get there. A gay priest is a good guy main character. A Saint is portrayed as secretly an evil person because he led a Crusade killing Cathars.
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>>25111834
I don't remember that. There is a gay character, but I don't think he ever does anything gay with anyone other than a demon in the haunted castle, and don't quote me on that part either.
He's ultimately protrayed as a good character despite grappling with being gay, but he isn't protrayed as being good because he is gay or anything like that.
All in all, you'd have to be reaching pretty hard to call it pro-homosexual, which I imagine some people have for clicks on their articles or dings on their posts for people who haven't read the book and never will or would have.
If a gay character just being there at all would put you or OP off though, there are lots of other books and I don't think there's anything wrong with skipping this one.
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>>25112151
>There is a gay character, but I don't think he ever does anything gay with anyone other than a demon in the haunted castle.
There's one other scene too, the most important one to this character funny enough, but none of the gay shit is over the top at all. It's brief and it actually adds to the character and it's not the main focus of the character or book. I love this book, it's very good, so subtle with the characters, but over the top in its action scenes.
>>25111834
>isnt it pro homosexuality?
Nope, not at all. The main character thinks that the gay character is kind of funny, in a cosmic sense, but he's also not mean or childish about it. It's dealt with in a mature, matter of fact way. Like how homosexuality used to talked about (for a brief moment in history) before social media made it into a hot topic again. Regardless, it's not a big part of the story and it won't bother you to read it.
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It's fairly decent. I enjoyed it. I'd give it a 7/10, didn't leave a huge impression on me honestly but it was a fine read. Don't get the mega hype behind it but it's worth a read if you want some medieval fantasy horror.
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>>25110654
Don't listen to this retard >>25110630.
The book is good.
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couldn't believe it. there's a new edition going into print later this year, but on ebay they're like, 100-200€. crazy shit.
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>>25110549
I thought it was decent. Though I liked The Wake by Paul Kingsnorth a lot better. I feel it is similar in tone at times, though more biblical, or fantasy inspired, considering there are monsters. The social background of the plague in and around France was made use of in what I thought was a fun way. It didn't end in a way I thought was particularly satisfying but I still enjoyed the read.
I'd give it a 3 out of 5 roughly.
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