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Why can't we publish ones with essays and articles and maybe the occasional poem? No one wants to read the "pulp" written here with AI covers. But anthologies of long effortposts about literature, philosophy, history, math and the arts? Would anyone be interested in that?
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>>25112892
Anon we've ALREADY tried to do magazines exactly like what you say. We've tried it more than once. They always fail. At this point it's an exercise in utility. I'm not going to line up to kick the football again, I know what happens.
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>>25112915
>At this point it's an exercise in utility.
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>>25112892
Give it a shot. People have done it before, and there are descriptions and old PDFs on the wiki:
https://lit.trainroll.xyz/wiki/Collaborative_Works
Just be realistic with your expectations, since it'll be hard to get people to commit their writing to it, letalone anything particularly good. There's been great writing in old /lit/ mags, but don't bank on most of it to be any better than mediocre. Also don't expect it to run consistently for a long time, since a lot of it banks on the novelty, which will wear off. Consider that is should be fun, for you and for people sending material in.
And how do you plan to format the release? Say it'll end up as a PDF, how would you make that?
>>25112915
>They always fail.
They always end, but I wouldn't say that makes them failures. Any /lit/ project that got submissions and released something counts as a success. Keeping that up is harder, improving it over time even harder than that, but ultimately a good /lit/ mag can be something other than a good literary mag.
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>>25112892
There's a lot of ways for it to fail. That doesn't mean it has to. Publishing, even small time online publication, is almost monolithically gay and brown and female now. There's never been a better time to be anything else or to find contributors that are anything else.
Focusing on /lit/ or 4chan culture or making it central to the identity of the publication is going to kill it. There's no market for that even inside 4chan and serious people don't want their names associated with it. It needs wider horizons to ever be anything and that means not shooting yourself in the foot out of the gate.
Being ran by some memeing retard posting squirrel soijaks is going to kill it. There's no reason to take that person seriously or to think they take the publication seriously. I personally wouldn't contribute to a publication like that.
Publishing the work of other memeing retards is going to kill it. Even a great deal of people here don't want to read that.
Focusing on essays and articles about literature and your faggot poems is going to kill it. You don't have a large talent pool to draw from to limit it in that way.
Nobody cares and nobody ever will care about your shitty free verse poems. Starting a publication so you have a distribution channel for your shitty poetry is the wrong reason and it will kill it.
Not knowing shit about formatting and design will kill it.
Figure out your format. Keep any mention of 4chan out of it. Post open calls for work here and on other boards and in other places like X that won't shut you down for having an opinion that isn't gay and brown and female. Take it seriously and be serious and keep your faggot poetry and memes out of it or you may as well not even bother.
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>>25113008
>It needs wider horizons to ever be anything
Just let it be a /lit/ mag. It doesn't need to be more than something with niche, passing novelty on /lit/. Trying to be a real literary magazine is something entirely different from having fun putting something together on /lit/. Doesn't need to be serious, just make it seem fun and free enough for anons to contribute to, particularly stuff they don't think they could share elsewhere.
>Being ran by some memeing retard posting squirrel soijaks is going to kill it.
I agree with this though.
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>>25113058
I don't think you've demonstrated any intellectualism here, if that is even the contest. You appear to be advocating a mission to be taken "seriously" by the very institutions you seem to have nil regard for. I am not a "serious" fellow, nor do I take myself "seriously". But I am doing my very best to take you "seriously" under the circumstances
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>>25113147
I haven't claimed to "demonstrate any intellectualism here". I've laid out a rough, practical roadmap to success for a /lit/ based publication and I've called you a retard incapable of implementing it, which you're now
>n-no u
'ing about.
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>>25113184
/lit/ is incredibly hostile toward any sort of literary success from its users. The funniest part about it, though, is that all the anons on here dream of succeeding and would probably be a lot happier with themselves and the state of the industry if they banded together and shed the whole "crabs in a bucket" routine. Don't see that happening any time soon, though.
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>>25113484
It 100% is. Just read through the Honor threads and such. Granted, they've got shills and paid agents shitting up every thread on here now, but still, the general sentiment is negative toward anyone who breaks through from here.
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>>25113514
People hate Honor because she's emblematic of everything wrong with the publishing industry. She's a dumb whore from a rich family who only got published because she has connections and because she ticks certain boxes of representation. /lit/ is of course actively opposed to that, this place is the champion of the Western Canon and great writers people have forgotten about (like Pessoa). Honor Levy is /lit/'s natural archvillain.
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>>25113514
A Jewish nepo baby with deep connections to the east coast Jewish writing establishment, which Truman Capote said is a Jewish mob that runs most literary exposure, asked to write for the New Yorker in her early 20's, even prior to writing her book, and who is promoted and glazed by the New York Times, can hardly be said to have broken through from here
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>>25112892
Check out this best-of that was made for an old /lit/ magazine.
https://the-best-of-amp.github.io/assets/the_best_of_amp_digital.pdf
https://the-best-of-amp.github.io/
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Just make your own zine.
If you want to collaborate only do so with people you can establish a proper professional relationship with and where accountability is enforced.
Collaborating with anons online to consistently produce something of quality, where no one is being paid or held accountable, doesn't work.
Especially if you want to be picky about it.