great thread guys

>>25113690
>cock
lmao was he fucking GAY or something

>>25113690
Ask your wife

Why did the West take the ramblings of this fat retard so seriously for over 2000 years

Sorry Im responding late I forgot this board. Im always thinking about cock. Arent you?!

>>25114331
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>>25115278
Those are more or less his actual last words. I've looked it up and apparently Greeks sacrificed a cock to the god of health and medicine after recovering from an illness so him saying it as he's dying means he is finally recovering from the illness of life.

>>25115282
Interesting. Could also be a pending sacrifice that he could learn about while dying.

>>25115282
You mean like a rooster? Like the kinds Apollo gifts his boyfriends or something.

There's been a long standing feud between Apollo and Athena, with the latter being a huge stupid cunt that has more to do with excess wealth than anything to do with wisdom or crafts or war or anything, really.

The School of Athens my ass. She is nothing more than a bored princess with daddy's money funding things.

While everything comes from the men and she's trying to take credit or she screws over anyone financially.

Wew, I could go on and on...

>>25115349
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After stupidly responding to a call from /x/ when they brought forth Michael/Uriel, the Athenists came back to my life and brought forth illness upon my home.

Not even my dogs were safe from the madness of these feminine inspired cultists.

Take this as you will.

(cont)
Word of advice: get rid of all Mary, Cybele, Aphrodite, Athen, Ishtar or anything female that will call upon these mentally ill demons.

Even if you have them as keepsakes from family members.

I had a statue of Cybele because I liked the lions. But the woman will attract all manner of terrible things and just like Ishtar she does not represent someone that is represented by the Lions, but abuses the Lions.

Wew, this sounds so "schizo" but it actually makes sense after you are made a targeted individual.

>>25115282
It's ambiguous because it could mean what you say (that's how Nietzsche takes it), but it could also mean to either heal himself from this experience of death or the fear of death, and there are signs that Socrates is uncertain and even fearful of what comes next for him.

It obviously has to do with the νόμος of entering the marketplace of ideas and paying it off, and also understanding that the changing of money (or ideas) is always a conversation to be appreciated.

The Greeks were very proficient arguers not just in philosophy but also in money. They would haggle all the time in marketplaces. It was a big deal.

The idea of paying a debt would have been figurative for rich people like Plato, but the point is there; you have to keep arguing.

Not unlike Yeshiva or Monastic about, I might add.

I have a theory that most good things come from insular argumentative spaces, like my groupchats.

>>25116895
>puffed up enough to use νόμος for no reason
>too dumb to connect the debt with the god of medicine, Asclepius

>>25116895
>you have to keep arguing
Please no this is something that the J*wish people have weaponized to a point of lacking purpose altogether

>>25115349
Athena doesn't have any feud with Apollo lil bro bro hahaha and she's the literal goddess of wisdom

>>25117568
>that nervous laugh
...Apollo *is* the god of wisdom, and Ares *is* the god of war.
Why would anyone ever need a goddess of both of these things?

The only power she has is likely over money and that is why people always end up in her trap.

Blackmail, gossip - at best she is just social warfare. That's why they call this site the underwater basketweaving forum.

Just concocting and weaving lies, chaos, and spying on people like she always does.

I could go on and on. Its just Venus purposely dressed up as a false star to spy and get in like Trojan horses.

>>25117702
Apollo isn't the God of Wisdom lil nigga loooool

>>25117331

I don't think I'm using it for no reason.

I do think that the Asclepius portion of the parable is important. But I think that the 'paying one's debt' and 'telling a friend to pay it for oneself' is more important.

>>25117528

It's just the will and desire to have a good conversation. This is mostly what it means to be an advanced human. No implication here that the jews are having /good/ conversation, though. I think that the aristocrats of Greece were having much better ones (maybe even the best, second to, once again, my groupchats (I have to stand up for us)).

>>25118776
>I don't think I'm using it for no reason.
There is a "marketplace of ideas" but there's no νόμος of entering the marketplace of ideas, and there's no significance to using νόμος instead of "law/custom".

>I do think that the Asclepius portion of the parable is important. But I think that the 'paying one's debt' and 'telling a friend to pay it for oneself' is more important.
They're both less important. Why to a friend? Because Socrates is dying and can't make the sacrifice himself. And paying a "debt"? It's simply the sacrifice. Which makes Asclepius more important than the other parts of the statement, since he defines what is being sought by the sacrifice.

Never worship Anahita, Athena, Ishtar, Aspasia, Diotema, Aphrodite, or any female deity ever.
There are only 2-3 gods and they are male. Perhaps 4 but he's lesser than the others.
Venus is no more special than Mercury or Mars. And offers not wisdom.
First she tried to take over the moon then it's Venus then it's Sol, then it's all about the black hole.
She is nothing more than a replicator because all she does the woman is bring babies.
Wisdom belongs to stars and stars are male.

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Birth is merely a motion toward matter; death is its antipode. Sages and philosophers all knock on the door of death because they can sense that the solution of every mystery, freedom, and resurrection are all found behind it. By the laws of alchemy, something has to die and decay before it can rise.

>>25113690
I admire the bravery and wisdom of Socrates in everything he did, said — and did not say. This mocking and enamored monster and pied piper of Athens, who made the most impudent youths tremble and sob, was not only the wisest babbler there ever was: he was just as great in silence. I wish he has also been taciturn in the last moment of his life — maybe then he would belong in an even-higher order of minds. Whether it was death or poison or piety or malice — something loosened his tongue in that moment and he said: "Oh Crito, I owe Asclepius a rooster." These ridiculous and terrible "last words" mean this for those who have ears: "Oh Crito, life is a disease!" Is it possible? A man like him, who lives his life cheerfully and like a soldier for everyone to see — was a pessimist!
He just put on a good face to life and his whole life long he concealed his ultimate judgment, his innermost feeling! Socrates, Socrates suffered from life! And he even took his revenge for this — with those disguised, horrible, pious and blasphemous words! Did a Socrates have to avenge himself too? Was there one ounce too little of magnanimity in his super-rich virtue? — Oh my friends! We will have to overcome the Greeks too!

>>25113690
It's sardonic mockery of the athenian pantheon.

>>25113690
He was sick and let himself be sentenced to death to avoid getting worse

At least that is what Larry Gonick said Xenophon or someone else said

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>>25115316
OOOOORRR, it could be a veiled trans alegory.

>>25120055
Diotima was a middle aged balding anime pfp discord mod?

through death he is leaving the cave and entering the realm of forms

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>>25120015
Based Larry Gonick.