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>The bad guys win sometimes
>ASOIAF IS A MORBID HELLFEST BECAUSE GRRM CAN'T IMAGINE HEROISM SO WESTEROS IS IN A STATE OF ETERNAL DESPAIR BECAUSE EVIL ALWAYS TRIUMPHS

Shows how linear storytelling has been, perhaps since forever, that when a story doesn't have the "good guys" winning all the time it's considered a morbid failure. I criticse GRRM a lot (he's jewish) but the variety in who wins in ASOIAF is my single favourite thing about it. As opposed to Star Wars where the Rebels win and only win.

Still, House Stark is a like a cerberus house in that it loses its heads but always replaces it. From Rickard to Ned to Robb to Jon in only twenty years. Surprised people don't point out the plot armour of the Starks at all. It's normal for them for the good guys to never lose.
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>>25113766
The type of post you think up in the shower while the shampoo bottles applaud your brilliant refutation of a point nobody actually made.
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>>25113775
some people on X (formerly Twitter) say this so I assume thats why OP made this thread, but I would recommend to stop using X (formerly Twitter) for your own better mental health
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>EVIL ALWAYS TRIUMPHS
Every bad guy lost btw
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>>25113970
The Critical Drinker also has a famous video of him going off on GRRM for being a loser and that's allegedly why there's no heroes winning nor ending to the story. A 4chan screencap also saying basically the same shit. It's an extremely prevalent viewpoint so I don't know why fp hasn't heard about it.

>>25113975
Yep, but because Jon Snowgaryen hasn't claimed the Iron Throne, the Others haven't been defeated with zero casualties via the Power of Friendship and Tolerance, Dany hasn't married King Jon, Ned isn't revived, Sansa isn't happily married to Sandor, Cersei hasn't been mass raped by Flea Bottomers, Jaime isn't married to ugly Brienne, the Wildlings haven't been Raised by Wolves, the Dornish aren't brilliant brown geniuses, and the feudal patriarchy with prejudice and problematic outlooks on women hasn't been dismantled yet, it all actually means evil is winning and Trump is a fascist dictator erasing Black History.
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Nuright cultural criticism is a mirror image of the 4-hour liberal "Barney is Socialist" breadtube slop factory in that it is puerile age regression to cope with the fact that the actual fruits of your politics (first Biden, now Trump) are more ZOG wars, financialization and abject misery.
They have regressed to being 12 years old and decry anything moderately complex as "ontologically evil" (a favorite buzzterm of theirs learned from other nuright manchildren greentexting on xitter) or "nihilistic" a spenglerslop classic which has lost all meaning.
Disregard this criticism of GRRM entirely.
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This criticism can easily be proven wrong if GRRM finished and published the ending. Oh wait.
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>>25113766
Only christcuck nationalists say this anyway, who cares about them. It took me a while to realize like 80% of posters online who call things “nihilist” are coping religion tards. Glad people are finally wising up to it.
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>>25113766
>As opposed to Star Wars where the Rebels win and only win.
I recall a moment where the Jedi lost and were completely hoodwinked by the Zionists.
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>>25114088
If you were to make it nihilistic, what would you change?
Nihilism isn't about who wins, it's about portrayal of values.
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>>25114065
CGI Biden & Trump are a result of 2020 military coup.
Most likely by jews who decided to go full USSR with the new AI tech.
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>>25114065
Most true post written on this board in weeks, possibly months. Ideologues are fucking subhumans who prefer simple rules over truth.
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>>25113766
Viserys III was better than Dany
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>>25115284
He's the character I relate to most out of all ASOIAF.
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>>25114065
>>25114692
Nonsensical bot-esque word salad.
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>>25113766
OK but what was Aragorn's tax policy and how many baby orcs is Jon Snow going to kill in his revenge quest after being brought back to life?
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>>25113766
More like morbidly obese
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>>25113970
>xitter
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>The Critical Drinker

this is a sentiment I see a lot, it basically boils down to ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE CONSTRUED IN ANY POSSIBLE WAY (even if it's a huge stretch) AS SOMEONE WHO MIGHT NOT WANT TO SUCK THE COCK OF THE ORANGE PEDOPHILE IS LITERALLY EVIL!!! E V I L ! ! !
>>25114065
yeah also this except it's not cope and they're unironically that retarded
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>>25113766
Is it ever explained why Westeros never evolves in any way despite having a thoroughly explained tax policy?
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>>25114065
>spenglerslop
lol, seething.
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>>25113766
>cerberus
>loses its heads but always replaces it
no wonder you're a GRRM fan
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>>25114065
>paragraphs that would instantly kill a medieval peasant
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>>25113766
I'm sure that 99.9% of people who say that have never read GRRM and only know him from the TV show or le tax policy meme.
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>>25113775
literally any time asoiaf is brought up on this autism awareness board that is all everyone can say about it
>asoiaf is bad because it is le grim rapefest gray morality evil series
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As much as I hate booktok women and their awful modern literature, I feel enormous contempt for people who unironically think that Stephen King and George Martin are good writers.

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