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>blows all jeet philosophy out of the water (especially Buddhists and Advaitins)
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>>25115560
He looks beat up
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>irrevocably destroys all past and future "philosophy" forever
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>>25115560
Why did Oppenheimer like jeet philosophy so much?
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>Neoplatonism
Anti-gnostic cope spirituality.
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How?
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>>25115561
if your leader doesn't have battle scars, he's a bitch.

- Plotinus (pbuh)
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>>25115560

Shankara’s position is more logically and metaphysically coherent than that of Plotinus because it eliminates the asymptotic gap that haunts Plotinian emanationism. In Plotinus, the finite never quite reaches the One, and the One never fully arrives in the finite, relation is maintained only by metaphor (overflow, procession, return), not by strict intelligibility. Shankara’s non-dualism, by contrast, allows for a fully immanent absolute without collapse into pantheistic confusion, because dependence runs one way only: appearances borrow apparent being without fragmenting the source. This makes error, ignorance, and liberation intelligible without positing ontological secondaries that must somehow be both real enough to function and unreal enough not to compromise unity. The result is a metaphysics that is simultaneously simpler, stronger, and more parsimonious: fewer primitives, fewer unexplained transitions, and no need for a metaphysical middle-management to reconcile infinitude with the finite.
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>>25115579
Back when Indians weren't that well-known in the west people would just project whatever they wanted onto them. They thought India was basically a fantasy setting where snake charmers and belly dancers rode elephants to the Taj Mahal all day, of course they found it more romantic then their boring day to day lives of automobiles and factories.
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>>25115560
Isn’t much of all Greco-Egyptian metaphysics down wind of the indo Europeans?
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>>25115806
Nobody actually knows, so it's better to disregard lineages and pedigrees as bases for your philosophy.
Once you do that, Kantian Idealism is shown to BTFO all other systems.
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>>25115814
Same mind set as race mixing.
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>>25115806
No one cared about "metaphysics" as mentioned ITT among proto-Indo-European. They were illiterates, and what remained of them after their splitting, mixing with various non-indoeuro, and their various ethnogenesis into historical peoples was, beyond grammatical rules, a few structures of mythology.
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>>25115682
>difference doesn't exist but brahman is different from maya
>more logically and metaphysically coherent
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>>25115579
Great scientists, artists, philosophers and geniuses have always held Indian philosophy in high regard
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>jeet philosophy
They don’t have any philosophers to btfo, just muh spiritual healers who scam their own
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>>25115682
I like this argument however I do ask about the nature of Ignorance. It is not of Brahman, is not a 2nd ontological principle but rather epistemic and yet i wonder how does illusion 'arise' in non-dual consciousness?

If the world is dependent appearance, what grounds logical distinctions and why trust the reasoning that establishes non duality?
I am interested in your thoughts.

Also the distinction between man and animal? There are differences but what kind of difference is there?
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>>25117107
Reason is like a boat. It carries you to the other side but you can’t take it with you
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>>25117111
Sounds like a real difference of substances...
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>>25117111
Is reason primarily sufficient then?
And what of animals and plant life? There is some differentiation, but im asking of what kind?
I am genuinely curious. I do wish to read Shankara

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