i once read a conspiracy book about Israel making the USA its completely will-less instrument and make it fight a war for itself, one the USA has zero interest in. despite the fact the USA is 40x bigger and on the other end of the planet, it becomes the attack dog of a tiny desert country.

haha lmao, they've really lost touch with reality.

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>>25117097
every time i open and skim my edition of ruled by secrecy i find something that is just flagrantly false and/or backed up by a bullshit source. got for cheap from coupon from barnes and noble at least

anyway go read american exception by aaron good

>>25117636
> american exception by aaron good
been seeing this recommended too

>>25117097
The Ultimate Evil by Maury Terry

>>25117836
Can confirm, this is an excellent book that will make you noided.

>>25117820
There is nothing more intellectually bankrupt than anti-conspiracist generalism, which Konda seems to be an archetypal example of, especially in the wake of the Epstein files demonstrating elite conspiring to rig global affairs and backdoor deals. This line of anti intellectualism has done nothing but launder legitimacy and camouflage for the crime cartel running the west.

>>25117097
How is Tom Delonge's Gods, Man & War series? My one friend who was my old band's drummer is a huge Blink 182 fan and he reads quite a bit and wondering if he would like it. He's into paranormal stuff too.

So is the illuminati real?

anything on israel being run by jews?

>>25118711
skip this one and just listen to adam green instead

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>>25118971
You'd need to read a work of fiction to find out.

>>25119147
crackhead

>>25119316
How come?

>>25119334
It has all the concepts, basically.

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>>25117828
lol i mentioned him in my thread a while ago. speak of he recommended this book

>>25117097
Peter Dale Scott is the most thorough and convincing conspiracy-oriented scholar I've read

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>>25117097
might read Beyond Supernature later this year, not sure. it looks like a real boner of a book, attempts to explain the paranormal by natural science means. I wonder if there's a counter-thesis?

some future reads (including Beyond Supernature):

> Beyond Supernature: A New Natural History of the Supernatural by Watson, Lyall
> The Mothman Prophecies: A True Story by Keel, John A.
> Man Monkey: In Search of the British Bigfoot by Redfern, Nick
> Mirage Men: A Journey into Disinformation, Paranoia and UFOs. by Pilkington, Mark
> Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers by Vallee, Jacques
> THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race by Vallee, Jacques
> OPERATION TROJAN HORSE: The Classic Breakthrough Study of UFOs by Keel, John

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I read pic related and it was just too schizo for me

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>>25119316
I'm cool with RAW, but why hasn't lit caught onto Joseph P Farrell yet?

>>25120598
I have two of his books

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>>25120643
Underrated around here, don't you think?
(I'm still just listening to youtube interviews. Favorite DL sites are shut down)

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I have a copy of picrel I found in a thrift store once. It must be pretty obscure because there's not much info about it online and I never see it mentioned here.

>>25120693
Qrd?

Myth of the 20th Century

>>25120687
Yeah, however I have enormous backlog and ill parse through him eventually. I don't remember where I heard his name from.

Unrelated, but since it was mentioned in another thread, how legitimate is Dean Radin and parapsychology in general? Think about picking up Real Magic and maybe another one of his titles later this week.

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>>25117097
I don't think in terms of "conspiracy theories." This word was literally invented by a group of people whose job is to manipulate reality and hide and obfuscate how the world works.

As a 40 something year old long time resident of lit, my simple goal has always been to try and understand the world no matter where that takes me. I present as little ideological bias as possible. I have little to no interest in solving problems or even in proposing better solutions. I leave that to the next generation.

It's my belief that it's really difficult to say with absolute 100% certainty that anything of substance is true. My own disposition is to take a book or idea labeled as a conspiracy theory, and ask myself "how true is this?" And then in a rather unconscious way I think of the idea in terms of probability. For example, I find the idea of a flat earth as essentially having near 0% chance of describing reality. On the other hand, the idea that there was a conspiracy to kill J.F.K basically something other than the general theory that Lee Harvey Oswald acted on his own volition whatever the exact theory may be in my view is likely 90+%.

My goal is to put together this "effort post" to help you all in your journey. I'll also try to summarize what I believe after reading this type of material for 20 years now. I do believe there is sort of a "big picture" and then there's a minutiae of details and rabbit holes. It's in the rabbit holes that have the truly scary stuff and things that will disgust and make you hate the world.

I think the most important thing is to have a good understanding of history (conventional model). In particular, I would stress economic history as well as European and American history. In addition, I would spend time reading about the history of psychology and the birth of propaganda.

(cont)

>>25121285
(cont)
Probably the most important observation is that the growth in our understanding of the world has been exponential and not linear. I look at approximately 1945 and the end of WW2 as the inflection point. IMO it's at this point that a concerted effort has been made to consciously control the flow of information and shape the reality of the average person across the entire world. Prior to 1945 people will cite freemasons, Jews, Knights Templar, Jesuits etc as doing this but I find those theories as having low probability confidence.

By the mid 19th century the world was mostly mapped - there was still lots to be filled in but little else to be discovered. The Industrial revolution led to the British and later American empire which are both capitalistic and controlled by a class of billionaires. Even in the late 19th century the American presidency was considered beneath that of a gentleman. So early on you start to see this consolidation of power and control. Various social and labor uprisings were quickly put down or breadcrumbs were thrown to the people. The key thing to understand is it's the same decentralized group of people who were in control by 1945. Wealth and preservation of wealth and control are the key aims of this group. And yes it does skew Jewish.

So why does control tighten after WW2? I think the main reason is that there's been two parallel tracks of discovery about our world. The atomic scientists realized early on that we can literally destroy the world. So those in power (U.S / five eyes) realized that a tighter grip was necessary. I would say there's a high confidence that UFOs or at minimum breakthrough discoveries. Regardless now there is likely parallel technology being developed and is actively hidden from the world because to let anybody have it would ultimately cause a loss of control (best case scenario) or a rouge state/terrorist causing active harm (worse case scenario). Again going back to the exponential development - those in control are limiting the development of everyone else and keeping hidden discoveries because to do otherwise could endanger their control.

The Epstein allegations really cemented it all together and sort of validated everything I thought. Especially all the little details - being involved in university and work at the Santa Fe Institute, the bribing of politicians, royals, industry leaders like Bill Gates etc...It's all about control.

(cont)

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>>25121287
(cont)
Ultimately, it's impossible to understand the mechanics of the organization. But I would think it's a decentralized network of elders at the top probably coming from top families and those deeply connected to American, Israeli, British governments and then spiraling down in webs of control. The number one priority is controlling and ruling the world in a way that benefits them. These people are global citizens and are essentially immune from the same rules that would apply to me or you. Crimes against humanity happen at levels beneath them all as part of their umbrella of control whether importing crack cocaine, telling stories of Iraqis ripping babies out of incubators in Kuwait or causing famine in North Korea, or lying about WMDs in Iraq. You can probably think of the Western umbrella as being united against similar but obviously less powerful spheres of influence in Russia or China. I would say the Russian one is probably completely compromised and is connected and controlled by the Western one.

Why is there a central bank everywhere? Why is there Coca Cola everywhere? Why was LSD popular? What happened to the hippie movement? Why is the west bombing Iran? etc.. All of these realities can be understood from the idea that a small group is basically dictating how the world works and limiting technological development instead of allowing for spontaneous organic development. This is why the world has a sameness now that maybe wasn't there 100 years ago.

This is one of the key takeaways. Organic movements don't exist anymore - they're crushed. Only what's vapid and non-threatening is allowed. For example, take Mormons. An entire new offshoot of Christianity was formed when they left Missouri and formed a new community around Salt Lake. This would not and could not happen today. That movement would be crushed in its early development. This is what happened to Jim Jones, Occupy Wall Street, hippies, opposition in Iraq, labor movements etc.. Anything that is a threat is co-opted or destroyed.

Picture - includes a good book to start - it was only published for a short while before being removed by the publisher due to "pressure."

>>25121285
Do you think the illuminati is a real thing? Or something like it?
You know what I mean by "conspiracy theory" stuff though, like what's the most jarring one that's true?

>>25121297
>Why was LSD popular?
Why was it popular?

>>25121329
I doubt it. I think of the illumnati idea as there is some group that has been running the world for centuries. I don't think that's likely.

Rather what I think is happening is those in control start with a shared faith of things like private ownership, billionaire rights, Judeo/Christian beliefs etc.. Those things aren't even up for discussion. They would never think - why don't we cap wealth at 500M - or something like that.

Then I think you have small groups tied to nation states, private corporations, wealthy families all trying to advance their mutually aligned interests. And some of those become like a "hub" in a network-spoke diagram (think airline route map). And those "hubs" exert the most control.

For example, take Epstein. The most likely theory is that he was an Israeli agent likely reporting to Maxwell or Ehud Barak. And so his goal at the highest level was likely to advance the interests of Israel and such things as expansion into Palestine, control of politicians, destruction of competitors like Iran etc.. And so he then pulled in and helped people would would help that cause. He became his own hub of power. And these hubs cooperate with each other.

I doubt there's someone truly on top like a Rotschild. But these hubs work together to help each other and to supress all opposition to any of their core beliefs and likely sometimes one of the hubs exerts more control over others. For example, Trump and his group would be one hub today - but are other groups exerting control over him - probably.

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This thread mostly sucks

Everyone should read Propaganda by Bernays tho

>>25121334
Take a look at the Manson book - Chaos by Tom O'neil. So the book is sort of a bunch of loosely connected facts perhaps implying a connection to the CIA or government agencies as orchestrating or facilitating the Manson murders. Why would they want to help Manson?

At the time we were engaged in a huge cold war, and the fear was that Americans would turn communist and with all the social upheaval and summer of love all of that meant loss of control and property for those with power. So it was in their interest to stamp out this behavior.

How do you get Americans from having sex with each other in the fields while on drugs back into factories becoming consumers and workers?
Well one way is that the Manson murders began to connect the decadent hippy free love movement with the idea of homicidal maniacs.This was then exploited by Nixon and other conservatives who then started campaigning for the "silent majority."

Also LSD usage grew after being championed by people like Timothy Leary who had CIA ties. A lot of thought is that it was being heavily researched by the CIA for mind control purposes.

The amount of government collusion is overwhelming and is easy to make connections. I just randomly happen to be reading the biography of Larry McMurtry by Tracy Daughtery (who has the Cormac one coming out this fall btw). Anyway - so completely unrelated to conspiracy theories, BUT - page 101 :

discusses how his friend Ken Kessey (who would go on to popularize LSD in the electric kool aid acid test) was part of a government funded study from money by the CIA to study impacts of psychotropic drugs on well-adjusted individuals. (As a side note McMurtry supposedly never used them)

So why was LSD popular - b/c they gave it to the authors who just so happend to achieve publishing success. And why did they acheive success - well take a look at Finks by Joel Whitney which discusses how the C.I.A championed certain writers who gave the impression of America as being culturally free and superior.

But again all of this success is manufactured and controlled by them - so how organic is it? You can let them experiment with drugs - let the silent majority think of them as druggies, let the rest of the world perceive this as American freedom (movies like Easy Rider). And all the time make money for those in power.

Sorry - for rambling post. But there's a lot on this topic.

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If you want to understand why "conspiracies" keep happening

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>>25121509
P2

>>25121285
I have Mirage Men. Tell me how it is.

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>>25117097
iykyk

>>25121511
>the Oligarchical Tendencies of Modern Democracy
REPUBLICS

>>25120849
I don't know the name. I have something on remote viewing. That Puthoff angle.
Been meaning to look into Tracy Twyman stuff too.

>>25121976
You think he's still alive? Or maybe just went down in Iraq or something?

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>>25121989
Whats the deal with remote viewing?

>>25117596
I once read a book about someone with no friends who never had a girlfriend and believed really stupid shit about the state of Israel controlling everything. I think it ended with him dying alone.

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>>25122298
You read My diary desu?