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ITT: western /m/ media
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Watch the skies coming at you. A hero of metal hue. He locks horns with disaster, for the red and the white and the blue.
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What's his best armor?What's his best story?
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Always liked this one
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>>23651087
The heroes reborn was one I liked
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Modular is a pretty sharp style. And this one was spiffy
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>>23651087
Ive always been partial to the ultimate design
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>>23651087
Powerwise, Bleeding Edge, or Superior Ironman, I didn't care for the design of those though.
>Best Story
I hate to agree with people that Ironman is so C-list he never had a classic storyline, but I see the criticism. Probably the best of what he has is Demon in a Bottle, and I'm really fond of Armor Wars. Also his fight against Doom (the one where they accidentally time travel to King Arthur's day) is underrated, but probably too silly for most people.
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I just learned about this and am planning to read it asap because the premise reminded me of a film noirs Orguss and Big O
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The cancellation still stings
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Imagine getting written out of your own series going from Americanized gundam to another boring ass fucking battle royale
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>lol destroid
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Needs no introduction
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>>23651173
>I hate to agree with people that Ironman is so C-list he never had a classic storyline,
The problem with comics is that so often people are only ever really looking for single stand out stories they can point at. A Dark Knight Returns or a Kraven's Last Hunt but a lot of characters don't really have too many major hits like that. I still wouldn't call him C list by any stretch, especially not when people who watch the MCU say it like they were the defining triumph of the character. He's headlined HUNDREDS of comic books. You don't do that a C lister. Not by any stretch. C listers are characters who may get a book but it's cancelled inside a year or two.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y63i2NR9-LE
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>>23651393
People talk about him like he was almost Peacemaker levels of obscure before the films. He might've been B-list enough that Black Sabbath didn't deliberately write the song about him, but he wasn't so B-list that it's not reasonable people assume they did either.
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Unicorn Warriors Eternal was a weird show but I liked the robot.
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>>23651639
I think they said it was an original idea or something, either way the point is it wasn't actually written with any knowledge of the Marvel character, despite the name and the more modern use of it in relation to him.
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>>23651821
Iron Man never reached the heights of Spider Man or X-Men.
The whole Avengers were B-listers until the MCU, with zero cultural presence outside comic books. Mostly because they never got any decent cartoon adaptation in the 80s or 90s, every attempt fell totally flat.
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>>23651828
See this is the exact kind of moronic MCU brain rot I mean. An idiot so retarded from the movies that he honestly cannot process the idea of people actually reading the comics and the comics themselves being famous outside a cartoon.
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>>23651839
I was there, dumb fuck. Iron Man and the Avengers were niche within a niche, nobody cared about them. Meanwhile every person in the country had 2 copies of X-Men #1 and everyone was reading the fucking Clone Saga and seething over it. Nobody remembers a single run of Thor, Hulk, Avengers, Iron Man, etc from after the fucking 70s until those gay movies came out.
And the ONLY reason those jobbers even got movie pushes was because Marvel sold off the rights to their actual big sellers, Spiderman and X-Men (and somehow they convinced them to pay real money for F4 lmao).
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Lacking in /m/ scenes
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Any good?
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Tina a cute
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>>23654125
Yeah it was great
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I really liked those old marvel figures. They were cheap and had limited articulation but they made like EVERY FUCKING CHARACTER. And you could get them. Cheap. It wasn't like 30 bucks for a marvel legends is today. Even the original Legends line would give you cool stand or a comic book or something. I hate current action figures. It's not just the actual price but they're all scalped to hell. I miss the 3.75 line.
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https://youtu.be/5NBt8kaIQEY?si=kiQs0N505-KexSVY
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>>23654125
He was also in MvC
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>What's his best armor?
Model 42.
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Man the 80s really did like ancient warring factions. Though I do wish they were a bit more creative with the names. The Goodguylons vs the Badions!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ve7IoBZaUU
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>>23661148
That might be why I liked it so much.
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>>23661156
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>>23651087
I've always liked Arno's armor.
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>>23661231
Then you're in the wrong thread faggot.
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>>23663352
Short version is WB really wanted to take a second stab at The Matrix as a franchise. The film they got with Matrix Resurrections was really more a great big middle finger to needless legacy sequels. The first fifteen minutes is a pretty direct comment on its own existence, through the thin pretence of a resurrected Neo in a new simulation having been made to think the film trilogy were the events of a game series he directed.
The studio wants a new game, with or without him, and the experience of trying to make a focus-grouped, 'mind bending' but safe and like the old ones sequel drives him into such a miserable mental state it begins to break the machine conditioning. It's about some other stuff too but that's the most direct.
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I suppose it depends what you went in looking for. I went in wondering if there was any way they could do this without fundamentally betraying the spirit of the original and came out reasonably satisfied they'd found the answer. I think that's going to age better than if it was a solid but soulless retread.
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>>23651339
Recently caught it on Tubi. Made me almost buy those expensive Ramen Toys recreations.
Also surprised it has an episode that could be considered a proper ending too (the one where the bad guys summon a chthulu monster)
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Death's Head counts, yes?
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Where can I watch ExoSquad?
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back in the day I got into him through his solo run imported as the Marvel UK banner
ironically I had NO clue about his TF connections despite being big into G1 USA, back then I think I vaguely recall sentence to the effect of "there's some UK TF comics" was the extent of what I'd heard by the mid 90s
the UK Zoids comic is pretty neat, really lush art and an early paycheck for... somebody who became a name, I want to say Grant Morrison
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I'm sure there's a torrent for it in pirate bay.
Alternatively, you can watch the whole thing on YT.
https://youtu.be/KINV-aDKXck?si=yi9uYIAaQjJPR5r2
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We need more Jaegers in here.
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>>23665243
Jaegers you say?
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>>23669465
Iirc, unironically Bayverse synergy.
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sidenote: given the blunder of the MCU, whats the best war machine comic to follow
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>>23673749
It's always the case. Marvel has had plenty of minorities to push but they never push the ones people like. Or in a form that people liked them in. Everybody liked War Machine. Like More than Shell Head even for a point.
>>23673404
Rhodie's been around for a while, since Iron Man 118. He was actually the guy in the suit during Secret Wars and had a stint as the actual Iron Man in issue 169. He became War Machine in 291 and is pretty much a fixture of the Iron Man mythos ever since.
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>>23673867
>That time a former nazi scientist put his brain in the body of a 12 foot tall Captain America robot.
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the Coalition is here
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the Mawlr
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>>23651393
>The problem with comics is that so often people are only ever really looking for single stand out stories they can point at.
Iron Man Extremis exists its literally the one of the two stories people talk about (Demon in a bottle and this one) not only because it was the basis for the design in the MCU but also a great introduction for new comers. It is sad that the stories that came after wherent that good
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>>23651828
I completly disagree ironman was pretty much in the top 4 most popular marvel characters theres a reason why he always keeps getting runs theres never been (at least to my memory) a time where we didnt get any ironman runs. If you want any proof just look at his tv series and the short film pre mcu
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>>23673404
simple the run in 2009 to 2010 you do need to read a single issue in the ironman director of shield run but its the last issue of that run so dont worry about it. Its to my knowledge the last rhoedy story because they castrate him for MCU synergy
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>>23687241
The problem is that people think comics need to have single stand out stories rather than consistently good and entertaining runs. It's all just hyping single bits and peaces so lazy secondaries can jump in read a trade or kindle edition and pretend their hardcore fans because they know the one thing. Iron Man had a comic that ran for decades and was one of the tent pole Avengers. There were many stories beyond the two.
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>>23669429
They put Bulkhead in the new comics, but he looks cursed because he isn't FAT.
Pic related is the only transformers pic that I saved, poor Rod got butchered by the last cartoon.
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>>23650653
That's either Battletech or Videya, really. The French have been dipping their toes into the genre in comics, but they yet have to find their own take.
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Coalition SAMAS powered armor from Palladium Books Rifts rpg.
And then they beefed it up even more
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>I give the ones by Gendy a pass since he's one of the only western animators to "get it" so to speak
Too bad it's not enough to redeem the material he's given to work with, e.g. >>23661160.
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>>23693581
The whole thing is just a massive disservice to their own history. Falcon is a character with real legacy. Real history. The Falcon Identity is one of the earliest black super heroes in marvels catalog and they just tossed that all away to give him someone else's label. People like the Falcon. His name was plastered on the cover of the main Cap book for a long time. People like Mackie in Winter Soldier. But nope forget all that you get to wear this costume now you finally made it.
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>>23700457
B.O.B. from The Black Hole
not a bad scifi flick, much better if you like sidekick robots, sorta a spooky castle movie
if you watch it try for an hd copy, it's got some nice sets and stuff
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I wonder how things are in the universe where that got a well-received video game around the turn of the century and then Disney kept trying to make Black Hole sequels a thing
bet the NINs do the music for the third one of that too like they did Quake
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>>23702054
Nobody cares about decent creative works in general. Tron 2 was fine. The Tron cartoon was pretty good. New movie... kind of looks terrible, but I haven't seen it (and probably won't, so maybe I don't care about Tron after all).
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>>23700692
So much of that movie is great. I understand why it flopped though; during the original fever pitch of Star Wars mania, Disney of all people made a really eerie and depressing space horror/disaster movie. I'm sure people were expecting a more Buck Rogers style adventure flick out of them. The scene where they literally DON'T make it on time and the female lead actually starts getting lobotomized has stuck with me for years.
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These were peak 80s/90s for a kid
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>Any good?
Its been a while since I watched them, but from what I remember they are typical straght-to-vhs cult classic scifi films
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Klatu Barada ....neACHOO
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>>23651193
glad to see mention of Dynamo Joe. Thought I was the only one who remembered.
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Cringe.
>>23709457
Fuck yeah
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>>>23706579
>Cringe.
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>OMG, bruh.wav
FTFY
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>>23709457
THE CHANCES OF ANYTHING COMING FROM MARS IS A MILLION TO ONE, HE SAYS!
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I really like Robotman from Doom Patrol.
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>>23713473
I liked how much of early Doom Patrol was just looking for excuses for Rita to turn big and fight something.
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I've only ever read 1987 morrison stuff. I should go back.
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>>23719747
He's from 1963 and don't you mind the names Doom Patrol had plenty of weird shit.
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>>23719753
Doom Patrol's Robotman is a remake of an early 40s character with the exact same name and origin story (man nearly dies in a car crash and is saved by putting his brain in a robot body). It's like how Superman would sound terribly unoriginal if he came out later than the 30s.
Also, the wild thing about Animal-Vegetable-Mineral Man (yes, that is his name) is that he NEVER looks like that in his original 60s appearances.
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I love Heavy Gear and I'm gonna shill the fuck out of it once the game comes out.
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Based giantess connoisseurs.
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I really like the bed mech in girl genius because I'm a lazy fuck
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>>23728293Silent Running
That ending made me weep as a kid, yet it inspired one of my favorite shows of all time.
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>>23728490
Yeah my sister and I cried.
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Kyle you fucking weeb. Guy is still way cooler.
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In the alternate reality of Earth-X, Lord Sunfire stands aside his guardian robots, his Silver Samurai
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>>23693150
The hate boner for titanfall here was completely based on misunderstanding, poor reading comprehension, or straight up lies.
When they said
>Mech is kind of a dirty word with us, we don’t like it. These aren’t mechs
They were saying they were trying to distance themselves from battletech and mechwarrior. They said MECH as in WESTERN MECH not Mecha!
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I'll take this opportunity to contribute one of my old favorites.
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>>23693083
Reminds m of the powered armor used by the Longinus Thirteen.
>>23700692
I'm guessing that doesn't stand for Bunker Operations Robot. Yes, I'm aware that doesn't properly fit the acronym; take it up with the writers and development team of Safari Software.
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No dice, Captain Supermarket.
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How Roujin Z.
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tbdesu I have no clue what it stands for
>>23730141
I'm pretty sure they're The Nins
Monsieur Blow Things Up? The Distant Area? Nearer?
next you'll be dumb about The Devos or The Gwars
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Last Starfighter and Black Hole hit about the same for me as a kid yeah
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>>23732469
>I'm pretty sure they're The Nins
you're wrong
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>>23732469
I guess I might as well post the other (western) B.O.B. since I'm here, and while I'm at it...
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>Reminds me*
Heck!
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>>23701249
>then Disney kept trying to make Black Hole sequels a thing
The Tron Legacy guy wanted to do the Black Hole but if never happened. There's a poster for it in Tron Legacy.
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Is the big guy and rusty comic any good I only ever saw this cartoon as a kid
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Black Hole did get a comic sequel. Surprised they didn't reboot it yet but I guess they have Star Wars
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>that time star trek stole from dirty pair
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>>23734636
>Wouldn't be the last time
TNG referenced Dirty Pair ALL the damn time
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The implications of this one are my favorite
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You seem to have misunderstood the theme of the thread. Also, Rick Sternbach should've been dragged out into the street and curbstomped.
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That's what killed the original plans for a Tron 3 at least. Legacy did fine at the box office, but Disney had just bought the biggest IP in history and didn't see a point in 'competing with themselves' in the sci-fantasy action adventure market.
Never mind that right now I bet they were really wishing they'd kept some other properties alive and relevant instead of going all in on Star Wars and Marvel.
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It was kind of weird growing up with all the mecha parodies and not knowing what they were from until I was an adult.
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Before the Anime Boom in the 2000s, it was pretty common for people who were in to SF to not give a shit about where it came from and liked putting references to whatever they liked into the things they worked on.
I miss the days of unified nerddom.
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>>23738768
this was the case of a lot of anime fans of that era. Genre fans were looking for more of their genre and they found it in anime with stuff like Slayers and Lodoss for Fantasy or Iria and Yamato (Star Blazers) for sci fi.
>I miss the days of unified nerddom.
No you don't. The big problem with nerddom now is how it's unified to much. Back in the day you had smaller sects of nerrdom. Each community had it's own vibe and tastes and there was often smaller overlap than you'd think. The marvel guys and DC guys hated each other. Trekkies and Wars fags were in endless conflict. Even within the same series there would be drastically different tastes depending where you ask. Now everything is unified to a nice safe corporate friendly reddit where no negativity is allowed and everyone has to accept everyone no matter how retarded or how lazy newfag someone is. The idea that there is a "community" is in a way the problem. We're not a community were a group of like minded hobbyists interested in what is by all metrics a sedentary solo activity that we just happen to do in parallel and talk about.
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i disagree with your viewpoint, as you're just looking at hugboxes and corporate crossover messes and assuming it's the whole of what constitutes "fandom"...let alone assuming fanboy tribalism is actually something to look forward to and not the bottom 10% of a group of people being annoying
I see a lot more people who wouldn't say "I'm a fantasy fan", but something like "I like isekai" or "I like gritty low-fantasy literature" or "I like Critical Role". It's not appreciation of an entire genre or aesthetic, it's people being monofocused on niches and never going anywhere else within their broader category. It's fine to like these things (except isekai) but not to have it be the only thing you ever care about. Appreciation, the actual metric of being a stupid fanboy, is far from widespread. Loyalty to specific media properties is encouraged because everyone wants to make their franchises a "lifestyle brand" so they can sell you SBS Yamato socks and frying pans and shower curtains and condoms
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>>23738784
I was talking about science fiction specifically. No shit there were competing sub-groups with-in our various hobbies. I'm talking about a time when people wouldn't shit on something out-of-hand just because it had other qualifiers on it. When cool scifi anime was just cool SCIFI anime and not cool scifi ANIME, if you get what I mean. When "gatekeeping" meant "Here's a reading list; come back when you're done. THEN we'll take your arguments seriously."
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>>23738867
Sorry, couldn't hear you; I was thinking about that one fanfic where Hulk Hogan fucks Arcee.
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>>23738832
>When cool scifi anime was just cool SCIFI anime and not cool scifi ANIME, if you get what I mean.
To be honest people still side-eyed you if you were going around saying Bubblegum Crisis was your favorite, even if you couched it in a ton of irony.
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>>23739002
Eh, silly name aside I don't think people would be put off by it given a proper explanation. You can laugh at the silly stuff with them while pushing to good. It's not an either or between dead serious or ironic. It's taken things for what they are
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>>23739009
This. Like, who's got such a stick up their ass that "Bubblegum Crisis" is any weirder than "Trouble with Tribbles", "'Repent, Harlequin!' Said the Ticktockman", and "Buckaroo Banzai"?
If you were really they scared about judgement, you just showed them A.D. Police first and if they wanted more, THEN you show them Bubblegum Crisis.
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>>23739076
Because the chucklefucks who ran early anime companies only liked exactly one kind of thing and actively promoted the stuff as "THIS AIN'T NO LOONEY TUNES" on the same channel where the Mst3k crew made fun of Japanese kids for reading violent porn comics. It's also hilarious in hindsight to realize even Bubblegum Crisis was one of dozens of action OVAs with a crew of coomer bait waifus. The very same setup that became the backbone of today's gacha market.
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>>23739076
It's a pretty easy premise to accept. You can sum it up as Glam Rock Blade Runner real easily. Bubblegum Crisis doesn't even that weird when you look at in the context of the 80s.
>If you were really they scared about judgement,
Anyone this scared of judgement isn't having the conversation in the first place.
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>>23739112
That was specifically Columbia House and US Manga Corps, though. The anime tape circuit's been around since the 80s. Hell, Protoculture Addicts and Mangazine were running strong before ADV, CPM, and Manga Entertainment even opened their doors. Scifi nerds were already in the know. Hell, if you were an animator or an animation nerd, you were already really familiar with /m/ style content in the 80s. Why do you think some of these references are in Western media before 1998?
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>>23738012
Double or nothing this is what inspired him to do Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind.
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I actually have the talking Bandai action figure from the animated series and got it signed by Geof Darrow at a con.
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Though the detail Darrow puts into those issues feels like it could fill up a dozen issues by other artists.
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>>23731635
Reading through JLA rn and just saw this
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Bruce Timm was a fan back in the day too
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>>23740255
Too my knowledge he's only done cover variants. Adam Hughes and some other artists did some too. It's been a while though and I have no desire to revisit it.
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So anyway I went to see Scarlet again because I loved the fucking movie. There was a trailer for Star Wars Episode 12 Madolran VS Gorgalon or whatever the fuck it was called. I honestly thought for half the trailer it was going to be an ad for something else like all of a sudden the Bobafett would be like "Snap into a slimjim" or some shit. It was fucked up..like a baby Yoda that looked like over 100 hundred hours in MS paint. Anyway to the western /m/ part. The only thing that actually looked really fucking cool was some At-Ats walking along a mountain trail and one of them falling off while the others just plodded along. inb4 getablogfgt.
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Shogun Warriors is peak original Marvel /m/echa content.
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>>23747922
Micronauts using Jeeg and repainting him black was pretty great too
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>>23749304
>Buffaloman steals Robin Mask's mask and dresses up as Jeeg
tbdesu I wonder how this could apply to other mashups, like, Kinnikuman takes Warsman's mask and dresses up like a Zaku
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>>23749312
I dont know how it went down exactly but it was all an adaptation of Takara's Microman toys. Except somehow Jeeg was added to it. Why? How? Who the fuck knows. But it goes even deeper because in Italy they made even more Jeegs. Green and red jeegs with alien heads and Panthroid became an alien thing. Then if you go even deeper I think Italy again turned Jeeg into Cowboys but I always forget their names and can't find pictures. And Jeeg got even more insane repaints in Palisades revival in 1999s. Transparent red Jeegs, gold Jeegs etc. There are so many Jeegs you have no idea. Oh and Red Falcon or whatever his name was from an old Takara toyline became a character too.
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Immortal Legend Batman was pretty fun.
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>>23749383
Spoiler because it the last issue came out the other day but it doesn't really matter.
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I just read it and it gave me so much joy for some reason. It couldn't have all just been nostalgia but yeah I'm reading this other guys stuff and the cartoon if I can find it.
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>>23749384
What's the /m/aterial?
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Does Mars Attacks count?
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>>23758913
Source is this
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Furries in space, existing in a real between Star Fox and Albedo Anthropomorphics
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SP//DR finally got a model kit, it's the Rivals version but I think it's neat that one exists at all
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I remember seeing this American(?) comic book once that was kind of like Front Mission. It was a near future war story about two armies with mechs fighting over a fictional island. You could tell the creators were huge weebs because the back of the book had this whole Gundam-esque appendix about the stats and development history of the mechs. This sound familiar to anybody?
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I judt rewatched this for thr first time since I was a kid and I forgot how much I loved it.
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Seeing Ultraman and a few other toku heroes and 8man here just made me really happy.
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Do these count?
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I found out about this today
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>>23766477
I think you may have misunderstood the theme of the thread.
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