>>23732123
Nobody? These threads used to be quite active, where is everyone?

That guy looks like a Yu-Gi-Oh character.

>>23733398
Why all the characters in the F90 mangas look like dragon ball rejects?

>>23732123
If we get a new Late UC anime, I hope it's its own thing instead of an adaptation and takes place well after the UC 0200's.

>>23733405
Just adapt crossbone, it would be so easy
Sadly, Tobia is so based he makes every other Gundam MC look bad so I Guess he is stuck in the mangas forever

>>23733402
Not sure but it looks like the thread finally had its second wind

>>23733402
it's literally one fucking person

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtHbjbPTqtU
I love this guys videos. He's like the only gundam youtuber to talk late UC

Self bump but is there any info on the latest chapter or monthly mobile machine? Seems odd that there’s radio silence especially on this board

>>23732123
I mentioned this in the Iron Mask thread, but I think there's a high likelihood that "30" from Seerauber is a distant predecessor to the Turn X

>>23735564
That would be incredibly dumb, especially since the Turn X copied the Moonlight Butterfly from the Turn A.

>>23735610
Both 30 and Turn X are modular, 30 is currently separated into 7 pieces, and the Turn X can separate into pieces which can each be used as their own weapon

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Really surprises me that for whatever reason neither the wiki nor MAHQ have updated the RF Gyan’s profile, usually they’re lightning fast with this kind of thing. And asking again if there is any new monthly mobile machine bio?

>>23733401
I think he looks more beyblade due to the eyes.

>>23735642
Is there more info on 30?

>>23736256
Well Well there really was something

>>23736164
It's partially developed by Zanscare, and going by Love and Piece's future Jovian Gundams, it's possibly an evolution of the Rig Shokew

>>23736258
Is there anything else regarding it’s history or if there is an RF variant?

>>23736837
nothing indicating an RF variant but there's some stuff about it and Gyan's development history

>>23738827
That is a fantastic character design, also seems like whatever mobile suit is in front of her is completely new. Honestly can’t wait to see what they bring up next

>>23733408
They could do changes for Tobia. It wouldn't be the first time they made major changes between adaptations

>>23738960
Your right, they could open the series when he is on the ship, having him read about Banagher. Tobias could comment "what a fag" and then we could get back to the manga story

>>23736256
>ms-06r-3s
>hello fellow gelgoogs

Did this manga ever explain what that one Denan Zon variant was?

>>23739046
Which one? The monoeye ones from end of FF were just disguised to hide affiliation to Buch.
The prototype thingie from one of the recent Cluster chapters hasn't been explained yet but it's probably simply a general use test unit with a bunch of different ideas slapped on, some that worked out and some that didn't. We'll probably get a MMM about it at some point. They're clearly taking their time with these, we don't even have a Verethragna lineart yet.

>>23739062
The latter is the one I meant. I just hope we get some morr art of it, it's pretty cool.

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>>23739073
I don't doubt we will

>>23739062
That one was pretty cool, it was the first time directly showing CV face off against Oldsmobile machines, pretty sure we’ll later see more examples of them getting humiliated like the jegan’s in F91

LIVE

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>>23732123
>halfway done with victory gundam
does it get better? there are some really good moments but its pretty slow-going compared to the previous shows

>>23744885
The 2nd half is where Tomino got the kill-them-all nickname. The pace also goes up.

>>23744919
Was it really Victory that he got that nickname from? I haven’t watched it but have seen Zeta (and Dunbine)

>>23744922
definitely not, it isn't even that bloody really
still very good tho

>>23744922
I believe Victory has his second lowest cast survival count after Ideon for obvious reasons. Can't remember death count wise which of the two is higher.

>>23744928
What about Zambot 3?

>>23744929
I will admit that I've not watch that.

>>23744919
>>23744929
he got that nickname from zambot.

>>23744942
I was misinformed then, my bad.

>>23733398
Probabaly because FF is shit. They just made F90 more like Crossbone

>>23745034
FF is fantastic exactly because of that, among many other reasons

>>23745034
Or because we haven't gotten translated chapters in a bit (unless my reader site is now slow to update again)

>>23735118
Last time I remember we got RF Gyan info

>>23745088
FF has been fully translated, but it got caught in the mangadex wipe of 2025, so you'll have to find other sites that has all the chapters

>>23745295
Oh I was actually thinking of Cluster not FF. Wish they were named a bit more linearly

>>23736256
Holy shit that suit finally has colors

>>23746472
Full Armor F89?

>>23733414
Quit promoting yourself you fucking shill. Your videos are utter shit ass pulls.

>>23746510
final battle version

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;D

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ST-Gan is cute! Cute!!!

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V-Dash draft is pretty smexy. I like what we have but the quad fin nozzle is neat and a drum-frame-esque mounting for the cannons is cool too. Would be a fun variant.

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>>23750488
I love DUST

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Mars Gundam is so cool

>>23756203
Yeah it is, I just wish we got more artwork of it. Speaking of the wiki is slipping again with the monthly mobile profiles and other chapters. Is zeonic gatekeeping the other chapters to himself again?

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>>23756345
it's not like the guy is the only source for those, anyone can subscribe to gundam ace. Downright surprisingly given how bandai dgaf about the gaijin, but nice.
Or just find the pics online. Either way I bet it's just the wiki slacking

>>23732123
So what adaptation is next after F90 Cluster Fuck? Has there been any word on that or is it expected that the manga will tie into Crossbone?

>>23756497
Cluster is still probably gonna last for a year or two and it was only announced when FF ended so we have no idea what's the plan after this. It's already tying into Crossbone tho

>>23733401
Cluster is all over the place with characters. You had the F80 Gunraid trio that was literally traced over DBZ designs of Android 18, Android 16, and Dodoria, with slight alterations. Then there is this beyblade looking guy, and probably more that are undiscovered if you looked closely.

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>>23756502
you don't know anything do you

>>23756507
it’s strange seeing the art style stay kind of distinct from Zeta up until CCA and then you’re hit with Shonen Jump weekly characters

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>>23756512
artists have no obligation to force themselves to follow an idea, let alone when one thing is anime and the other a manga. Hardly the first case with Gundam either.

>>23732123
Guys, I'm beginning to think every Gundam series beyond the OYW was a mistake.

>>23758300
It's other way around. All OYW Gundam series past the first one was a mistake.
Late UC is basically the best part, especially if you'd count Turn A and G-Reco.

>>23733414
Fuck off or buy a banner. Nobody cares about your nasally ass shit takes

>>23759066
Oddly specific hate

>>23758300
There was a time when Gundam was simple with just the animes and novels of the 80s and reference books like Gundam Century and MSV and Entertainment Bible.

Mid 90s did expand OYW with 08th MS Team, and its DVD documentary on Battle Loum and paved way for video game stories like Blue Destiny and Gihren's Greed.

>>23759509
>There was a time when Gundam was simple with just the animes and novels of the 80s and reference books like Gundam Century and MSV and Entertainment Bible
ABSOLUTELY NOT bwahahaha

>>23756203
Mars is la/m/e.

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I really like how the F90 Setting Materials fully incorporate F91RR as a UC thing

>>23760613
I mean, it was one of the easiest Try Age originals to """canonize""".
It not as messy as the nightmare known as Gyan line.

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>>23760613
I like what they did here, basically it was thought up on in universe but never went pass the drawing board for obvious reasons, essentially pic related on its “canon” status

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>>23760733
In fairness that was always the "in-universe" description, but I think this is the first time it's included in a purely UC book and not treated as a card game original. Incidentally I wish there were better quality pics of the art from all these different card things

>>23760613
Whats the story on this suit?

>>23761735
A EFF desk officer who really liked the era of larger MS proposed a 18m tall F91 with extra armor and armaments. SNRI called him retarded and shot the proposal down, but also quietly admitted the RR would probably have been on par with the F90 in terms of performance

>>23761801
I think being extra big and only equal in performance means it's below both the F90 and F91 in value.

>>23762018
It still has a Bio-Computer, it can still move really fast, it still has after-images with mass, it still has beam shields, and it has 8 fucking VSBRs. Pretty sure it can do better than the F90 and most of its Packs.

>>23761735
Says it was SNRI's proposal to the more conservative factions who wanted a successor to the standard MS. It equips "Grow Up" units on the arms and legs, mounted with weapons (VSBRs/beam sabers) to extend the size of the F91 to match the standard MS size and make the AMBAC and handling closer to traditional MS, as well as making it compatible with old weapons. It's literally a F91 with heel inserts to look taller. In fact, now that I look at it you can literally see its normal legs and feet just jutting out of the leg thing.

>>23762081
If that went through some jackass in the federation would’ve probably tired to do the same with the heavygun’s. Presenting mobile suit SHOE UNITS

>>23762120
*Jamesguns
Heavyguns were outdated at that point.
But even if RR became a thing, it would be as ded on arrival as RGM-91S Jegan was.

>>23762143
I keep forgetting that by the time UC 123 occurs Jamesguns we’re the main production machine for the EFF, surprised we haven’t seen more by Cluster

>>23762151
they were only getting started at this point, we have confirmation of only four early production units ready and these were used to defend the Moon

>>23762158
There ought to be more, considering that Proto-Jamesgun kicked F80's ass years ago at that point. It would be equal parts funny and sad, if AE couldn't produce more units than SNRI and their friends (Zimmad, etc)

>>23762184
Hardygun you mean? Calling it a proto Jamesgun is a bit of misnomer, they're different but related projects.
And that's just how it is at that point, F91's development took like a decade.

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>>23762186
No, Proto-Jamesgun was Hardygun's competitor as well. It was made at AE's Von Braun branch, while Hardygun was made at Granada.
Also by the time of the movie F91 was ready for quite some time minus the bio-computer.

I'm pretty sure that Climax UC manga had Javelin Prototype in action by UC 0123 already.

>>23762200
I thought you meant the end of the Mars fight in Cluster, my bad. Jamesgun won in the competition so it beat its ass in that way, yeah.
And true with F91, but it's not really complete without the biocomp.

>>23762208
Except all the MP F91s didn't even have it meaning it was just done for a while...

>>23762386
They had a bio-computer.
A nerfed one, but still.

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the ghost of MSV90 and MS IGLOO returns

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RF ZE'GOK BWAHAHAHA

>>23763782
FULL IMAGE…NOW!

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>>23763805
only found the first half so far, F90II and I-Type are the focus this time. Found cliff notes of the MM and the chapter too:
>Zanscare propaganda is in full force, guillotines and everything
>The F90II shares the same biocomputer and psychoframe as the F91
>The I-type's shield incorporates Minovsky Flight
>The I-type's concept of ‘shield-mounted Minovsky Flight’ evolved into the beam rotors in Victory
>Reintroduction of MSV90 units: Zaku Atmospheric Reentry Test Type
>RF versions of the Zaku Atmospheric Entry Test Type & Ze'gok
>First recorded combat deployment of the F90II I-Tpe
>New mobile suit for Leon

>>23763783
https://youtu.be/m2gb0sV7ZyQ
Legends never die.

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Knowing that Jupiter phantom/Oldsmobile managed to fulfill various unused/Unmade principality designs like the atmospheric entry zaku, I wouldn’t be surprised that they had a RF Dogzam on board waiting to unleash fury. Note: it’s a smaller unmade 30/40 meter machine part of the Big Zam family. This is also from MSV90

>>23763857
fuck it, why not. Katana had King of Dragon, anything goes

>>23763857
>principality
Meh. Zeek shit sucked ass until Axis overhaul.

>>23763783
One step closer to RF Zudah

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and here's the full MMM #39, gonna drop a quick and dirty bullet point writeup in a while

>>23764829
>HEIL ZANSCARE! HEIL ZANSCARE!
>The guilottine purifies us with the blood of its victims!
>Anyway, F90II I-Type
>F90 unit 2's data was transferred ahead of the fleet's return so the renovation plan was already prepared
>it incorporates a biocomputer and psychoframe almost the same as F91's. Therefore radiators were added on the chest and legs, the head and generator were totally replaced and new shoulder thrusters were added
>Unit 1's generator was also upgraded around that time
>the refit was to verify bio-comp use in the F9 series as F91's development was behind schedule
>it omits the "maximum performance when synced with NT pilot" function and instead onl enhances the pilot's brainwaves for the Biosensor and Psychoframe, enhancing the man-machine connection
>Restoring the wrecked F90 2 wasn't necessary for testing this
>however, EFSF was controlled by an anti-SNRI faction following the F90 hijack incident and funding for Biocomp verification was denied
>So it was disguised under the F90II refit project
>Alternate theory suggests the C.A.III type AI system had a critical malfunction and had to be sealed away, and the biocomp was installed as a replacement
>the circumstances around the introduction of psychoframe into the F9 series are
>[30 censored lines]
(one of the earliest entries suggested it's linked to the Jovians. Now that Zanscare's in charge they can't speak about it at all.)
>the F90II spec design was completed in March UC 0121
>this predates the recapture, suggesting F90II and F90III projects were already underway beforehand
>alternatively, the tests in October UC 0120 may have been the final trials for the Dash and Cluster development

>>23764829
>>23764835
Calling it, the very last monthly mobile machine is the prototype Zoloat where it’s revealed to have had data of the F90 series along other Zanscare machines, the whole thing was data reference for production of their machines

>>23764829
INTERCEPT TYPE
>I-Type was rolled out in March UC 0121 together with the J-Type and F90 Dash itself
>as F90 units 1 and 2 were both on Mars at the time, its presumed Units 3 and onward were used for testing
>pilots unknown
>I-Type's role revolves around quickly attacking command centers within or outside the atmosphere and executing decapitation strikes
>The pack's main feature is the giant flight shield, serving as an atmospheric entry flying armor, thruster/fuel tank and a Minovsky flight unit
>it also includes low power weapons and its own small reactor
>At its core, one could say it's a smaller SFS. And yet it costs as much as ten Heavygun units
>classic SFSs have to be dropped as dead weight upon entering space combat and served them little more than platforms for jumping in atmospheric combat. It's a waste of both MS mobility and SFS thrust.
>Tech such us transformation systems and Minovsky flight tried to serve as a replacement, however they led ot the suits themselves becoming too cumbersome or difficult to use
>A flight shield shaped like a SFS and doubling as a AMBAC maneuvering unit attempts to solve this
>It's descended from shield boosters such as Gaplant's, but can be considered more refined
>the Beam Lancer is an advanced version of the Shot Lancer, a concept already present at military conferences in UC 0090s
>a Shot Lancer was considered for F90 since its inception
>there's a theory a separate physical Lancer prototype was designed for nuclear warhead deployment
>there are also suspicions of said warheads being smuggled from Lunar SNRI to space pirates
>I-Type was extremely expensive, and there's no documented cases of F80 models using it outside of test deployments
>its principles can be replicated with regular SFS and P-Type, so there's no confirmed mass production variant
>however, it contributed to X-Type development as an area dominance MS
>And the concept of M-flight in shield serves as basis for BESPA beam rotor technology

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>>23764844
didn't have space to add here, worth noting "Area Dominance MS" is a very specific term that's only been used to describe the TR-5 [Hrairoo] variants due to their high speed and firepower relative to contemporary models. Though of course there's plenty other suits that could fit that definition, like ZZ
>>23764840
Wouldn't surprise me, but it's not like anyone was ever hiding that BESPA is using SNRI tech. It's their own stuff after all. And Mobile Machine certainly began as simply an enthusiast hobby magazine, it's clear that it's now being transformed to serve the Zanscare regime.

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New crossbone chapter gives us Jupiter Zeon suits

>>23764883
Isn't that just Ancient Egypt faction and not Jupiter Zeon?

>>23764897
Might as well be. It's been 100 years, 10-ish different Neo-Zeons, and a couple of home planets, colonies, and asteroid bases apart at this point so someone basing their theme around 18th century France and calling themselves Zeon would make just as much sense.

>>23764900
I mean, I don't see the word Zeon mentioned anywhere.
I might be blind tho.

>>23764902
One of the suits is a new Hygoog and they have a new totally not Haman as leader

>>23764914
You're getting things confused nonny
The pseudo-Hygogg doesn't make them Zeon, you should be familiar with how things are since DUST
And the Haman lookalike is in F90 Cluster, completely different story.

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Unicorn, Foundation
Mineva Zabi back ag'in
Laplace Box
Unlocks
Banshee Norn, Scharnhorst Buck
NT, Mafty, Frontier Side
Mobile Suits are downsized
Zeons hiding out on Mars
Space monkey mafia
Victory, League Militaire
Invasion of the Zanscare
Guillotine
Crazy queen
Angel's Call, Shrike Team
Manhunters rule through fear
Char clone pilots Gaia Gear
Roller skatin' G Saviour
I can't take it anymore!

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WINNERS FOREVER

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>>23759509
Honestly Gundam Century and MSV were ground zero of what made Gundam more complicated, but you can't really complain because that's the shit that really cemented Gundam as real robot in the first place.
I think the funny thing is how Gundam Century literally started off as fanfiction before it was officially adopted by Sunrise. MSV too, it began as Okawara fanfiction, but eventually a lot more people and Bandai themselves got involved and forced Sunrise to include some suits in Z; apparently Sunrise is still sore about it not being an original Sunrise creation.

>>23764844
dang I didn't realize J-Type was such a late rollout, that is very interesting
and the Shot Lancer stuff is really cool

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>>23765508
>we might actually see it in Cluster like I asked a few threads ago
YES!

>>23764844
>there's a theory a separate physical Lancer prototype was designed for nuclear warhead deployment
>there are also suspicions of said warheads being smuggled from Lunar SNRI to space pirates
Without any context that DOES look really shady doesn't it? Not like there's many people that know the truth, and none that can really share it besides Rosemary but that's uh... yeah.
So of course anti-Feddie and anti-SNRI groups would use that.

>>23764844
>there's a theory a separate physical Lancer prototype was designed for nuclear warhead deployment
That's just F90I-I JBS Shot Lancer.

>>23765622
Yes anon, that's what its referencing. Good job for figuring it out, anon.

>>23765608
You forgot pro-Jupiter groups.
Even if they knew, Kagatie wouldn't let them tell it.

>>23765627
depends what kind of pro-jupiter group we're talking about, Tetenith's faction doesn't have nor wants to have any beef with the Feddies. And the warhawks are already anti-EFF anyway.

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Speaking of I-pack, I hope we'll see it's CV's knock-off in action. It's like it got a flat F90P on it's arm.

>>23765667
I'm a little surprised they didn't reference here. Would have been easy to mention CV might have used a similar, potentially related shield when talking about mass production or lack thereof.

>>23765667
>>23765670
We could very well see it in the future as the vigna zirah did appear in the prologue

>>23765703
It would require a substantial flash forward (or rewrites). Like, around 1.5 years to the future.

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>>23765703
possible, we're definitely getting Silhouette involved in some way
>>23765745
soooo... time skips? something both FF and Cluster use pretty often?

>>23765748
I was going to argue a bit, but I missed the fact that there was a year long timeskip in chapter 19, so it's more like ~4 months timeskip.
The question is whether they want to step on F91 movie toes, which begins in a few weeks after the end of Silhouette Formula.

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>>23765777
I mean

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>>23765777
they aren't afraid of depicting stories set after the movie, if anything they're part of the point of the project

>>23765779
>>23765781
That's not quite what I meant. I know that the last part of Climax UC story happens during F91 (aside from Crossbone epilogue which is basically non-story). And I know that Ghost of Formula happens after the movie (and was supposed to be a part of larger project connecting it to Victory). The thing is, those flash forwards aren't any different from Bergh stuff in FF.
It's just I don't see how Cosmo Babylonia war would fit into current story at all. Not to mention Lyle's part in the prologue gave off the feeling of it being a thematical culmination to the story, but it wouldn't surprise me if timeline wise it would end with Bergh recieving F90I.

>>23765793
>but it wouldn't surprise me if timeline wise it would end with Bergh recieving F90I
Nevermind that part, I suck cocks. He already has it in latest chapters.

>>23765793
I think we're too early to make assumptions about the story like this, FF changes focus and grew in scope quite a lot throughout its length. Granted, we've no idea how long Cluster could be but if we assume it's around the same as FF we're only like a third of the way through it. A lot could still happen and most likely will.

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>>23764883
This?

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>>23763818
>New mobile suit for Leon

>>23766202
That mysterious machine was under construction in multiple earlier chapters, looks like it’s gonna be shown off quite soon

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>>23766202
looks a lot like Charles's RF Goog

>>23766643
It kinda does but it’s also notably different, especially the DOM styled visor, maybe it has some linage to the efreet series?

>>23766668
could be a variant, they've been hyping it up for so long but the Rochester Goog is supposed to be the very best Oldsmobile suit, period. Would be strange if it's inferior after so much build up OR if it's better without being something like RF Zeong which it clearly ain't.

>>23766668
RF Efreet at long last

>>23766835
REfreet, you could say

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Also, OUR hero, Yuri Minovsky, is finally back.

>>23732123
>Yu-Gi-Oh! Hair in a Gundam work

>>23766913
Yeah, it's crazy how a 30 something years ago when this character was created, Sunrise thought that it is okay.

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>>23766913
Yeah, it's been pointed out before. It wouldn't be the first time you have weird, out of place shonen protagonist looking characters prancing around in UC.

The only time it gets bad is when they actually start acting like Shonen protagonists/villains. Which is what happens when someone like Hasegawa or the people behind Unicorn and Narrative gets full creative control.

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>>23766919
stfu boomer

>>23765605
I think I was one of the people telling you it's stupid lol
in my defense we could not have predicted the dang thing is a UC 0121 design, it feels like one of the early projects. But if it's a buddy with the I-Type these mini-Minovsky flight units might be pretty solid after all.
Incidentally I hope we get some stuff on the L-type too, the other iconic F90II pack

>>23766923
I think it was an early mission pack because it was said that the chest mounted machine cannons were used as data reference for future machines like the F91 and by extension the silhouette and hardygun. Good chance it may still show up to kick assay bergh in the cockpit

>>23766946
Don’t know how I messed up but I meant that bergh is in the cockpit showing it’s full capabilities

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>>23766913
>Yu-Gi-Oh! Hair
You don't like multicolored hair?

>>23766946
>>23766948
I mean, this mobile machine states it was only rolled out in UC 0121 so by that point F91's design should have been mostly finished. So it's kinda strange the only other blurb about J-Type says that's where F91's machine cannons come from.
We see those a lot in the era so I guess the design in general isn't a new concept at this point, F91 is simply using the specific model from the J-Type or something like that.

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>>23766952
It was indeed finished as early as 116, pretty remarkable that it was already a fairly recent machine by the movie but not outright brand new, then again so was the den’an zon which also rolled out the same year or next

>>23766959
yeah it's easy to forget the whole power dynamic is pretty different compared to older series. F91's nearly a decade old while still being cutting edge but the gap between it and CV suits is very small.

>>23765605
I've always wondered if there's this one guy in the Federation who has his huge hard on for Full Armor variants, and he forces companies to at least draw a concept or he'll cut funding.

>>23766964
Definitely more than one guy, there's always some dumb fucks in general staff who keep insisting on the biggest, toughest guns even if it's completely divorced from reality of combat. Sprinkle in some engineers who have only theoretical knowledge egging them on and there you go. Same story as F91RR and F50.

>>23766835
The head shape is also giving Galbaldy Alpha vibes

>>23767015
>RF Galbaldy late type
YES, DO IT

>>23766913
How else do you make your main protagonist stand out?

>>23766202
>>23766643
RF Dolmel
screencap this

>>23766202
>>23766643
It was mentioned that RF Gelgoog and RF Rick Dom shared inner frame.

>>23744885
finished it today.
it did get better, but the ending wasnt as shocking and brutal as >>23744919 and others
made it out to be. maybe Ideon has spoiled me

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What did he mean?

>>23770601
Bigger isn't always better.

>>23770638
Love the purple and red.

>>23770634
Is he dissing the RX78?

>>23771640
No, he's saying that F91 looks big and that if he was shown a picture of F91 and a picture of RX-78, he'd assume that F91 is larger.

It's been a few months, but this is still cinema.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCMk6ty8Rjg