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>FSS is finally getting a full English physical release
>Titan
Monkey's paw.
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We'll see. The release was announced specifically at AX's Newtype panel, and the magazine's representative framed the release as a partnership with Titan. One can hope they'll enact quality control on the translation and physical production, rather than sending the series out to die for a second time.
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>>23749543
>to die for a second time.
I have the first few volumes of the English version that I bought directly from newtype I think? Did they just abandon it?
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>>23749548
Pretty much. They got to either 16 or 17 of those volumes and just stopped.
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>>23749551
Although, Amazon Japan has an English Vol. 22 from 2004. Maybe there was still some way to order volumes directly from Toypress for a bit longer, but I honestly don't even remember seeing up to volume 17 on the US market. Either way, they definitely stopped the English volumes in the early 2000s.
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>>23749506
I bought their English release of Ryuko and it is printed on the thinnest toilet paper newsprint ever. And a slipcase so tight you have to abuse the volumes to get them out. Most pointless hardcover manga I own.
Not a fan.
Hoping the Five Star Stories release delay was caused by them rethinking the quality of the work they release.
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>>23749566
Also
>5.12 x 7.8 inches
Nagano draws on A3 for a magazine published at roughly 70% the size, but we are still being served JP 25% volume sizes.
FSS deserves better.
Even Kodansha prints English volume collections at 7.1"x10.2" with decent paper and they hate their customers.
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Surely they'll look at the success of Gundam Origin and use that as the basis.
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It feels like every one of their releases something different is fucked up. I'm not holding my breath until someone has a copy in hand and can report on the quality.
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>>23749597
The English releases were at full size, it was so nice. I have the newer reprints on the Japanese copies and while they're bigger than tankoban, I really wish they had gone larger like the super nice Bastard!! reprints

Nagano's finelining can't be appreciated at small sizes
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>>23749998
I like the Bastard!! Complete Editions, but they were also twice the price of the current FFS volumes; they'd likely be even more expensive, if produced today. FFS remains something of an ongoing concern for its readers, so it makes sense for now to have more conventional editions. The Bastard!! Completes were like trying to wring just a little more out of the readership for a dead series.
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>>23750128
Hagiwara also completely redrew Volume 2 and it took fucking forever, which is one of the reasons for the price hike imo

Fortunately Nagano's style has not changed nearly as radically as Hagiwara's and so far he hasn't felt the need to go back and redraw all the MHs into GTMs in the previous pages
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>>23750134
Volume 2 is heavily redrawn, but it's also the same price as the mostly original Vol.1 and about $1.50 more than the similar Vol.3. The around $28-$30 price point stuck, regardless of how much work Hagiwara did or didn't put into a volume. The price was really just the size, thick-low gloss paper, and the overall production. They're nice books to be sure, but I understand why FFS isn't yet getting a similar treatment. And again, the Bastard!! Completes would absolutely be more expensive today, at least $40 if not edging $50.
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>>23750134
I like left more
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>>23749506
I bought the full Italian release because there was no way to get the full physical set of the Toyspress english release.

At least somebody scanned it all.
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FSS getting a full English release is a wish come true. I just hope it will be of good quality.
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>>23752453
>I just hope it will be of good quality.
That's the sentiment of the thread.
Titan isn't exactly known for high quality releases. Hopefully the participation of Newtype Magazine in whatever role will ensure something better than the fairly poor original toyspress english translations. Or nonsense MTL, which Titan has also done.
We'll know in ~5 months.
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>>23750134
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I thought Nagano is supposed to be super autistic and protective about how his work is being enjoyed? Surely this time he'll actually ensure the quality is good.
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>>23750134
>Fortunately Nagano's style has not changed nearly as radically as Hagiwara's and so far he hasn't felt the need to go back and redraw all the MHs into GTMs in the previous pages
hopefully he's also self-aware enough that doing that would probably get him lynched, no one likes the Gothicmade redesigns(if this English release actually does reach the Gothicmade portion the sales will almost definitely crater hard)
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>>23753195
Plenty of people like them, they have a lot of fanart on Pixiv and have inspired a whole new design paradigm in the community
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Can someone explain me how many versions of FSS there is? I just bought the first two volumes (French edition) and I'm confused about the reboot etc.
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>>23753771
One.
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>>23753771
There is no "reboot". Nagano simply changed the designs because he got bored with them, and afaik the story continues as if they always looked this way, like Gundam Wing Endless Waltz
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>>23753778
I'm torn on the GTMs. About half of them I think are a straight upgrade and some are just genius, but a few of my favorites do NOT live up to their previous designs, mainly because they removed the most striking part of their looks. The Sirens are the biggest offenders.
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>>23753788
Same. I hate most of them but Die Kaiserin and Bansheeca are 2 of the most beautiful mecha ever designed.
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>>23753817
>Bansheeca
Which one is this?
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>>23753771
>and I'm confused about the reboot etc.
There is no reboot. Gothicmade the movie happened in the past of the setting and during the run of the comic until the Majestic Stand, a heavy armour meta simply dominated Mortar Headd combat. The owner of the Zakker explicitly commented on his machine getting re-fitted with way more plate following it.

Eventually, a new brand of armour piercing gun-swords get introduced, making people drop the armour in order to better teleport their mechs behind each other.
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>>23753998
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>>23749506
>toilet paper quality
could they really not get literally any other publisher? jesus christ
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I've long since given up on ever watching Gothicmade. I guess it's no big loss. I've heard it really isn't all that good and not worth Nagano's autism.
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Yeah I'm not holding out for this one. Not even Nagano's infamous diva attitude can save it.
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>>23755904
>Nagano's infamous diva attitude
you're fucking retarded
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>Nagano goes OUT OF HIS WAY to mention 'btw marijuana has no effect on MH pilots' brains'
lmfao what the hell did he mean by this?
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>>23755976
Naw it's true. He spazzed out over the Kaiyodo toys and now we can never get Mortar Headd figures.
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>>23756615
I'm also pretty sure he famously blocked early English localizations of the manga cause he couldn't cope with the left to right flip back when that was standard practice. Ironically if he had put up with it, the series probably would have picked up a following with English speaking fans and warranted a proper reprint decades ago like what happened with Battle Angel Alita/Gunnm.
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>>23756624
Who knows. Those old English releases did have a hilarious warning about reading from right to left (that sounds a just little bit too salty to be a joke).
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>>23756692
From what I recall the original attempt to reach an agreement to bring it over was in the very early 90's.
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>>23756692
Man i loved those meta notes and the included artbook pages
The OG english releases were so good, too bad they came at the height of Diamonds chokehold on the industry and nobody knew these existed because they were exclusively special order from the fucking Previews catalog
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>>23756615
>it's true because I made it the fuck up
kek thanks for proving my point
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>>23756615
Wave had completed prototypes of MH action figures from the 2010's and only didn't release them because of lack of interest, since FSS fans preferred models.
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>>23756624
There were no other early English localizations and the company that published it in English was owned by Nagano himself. Vertical tried to get the license for it after the Origin and couldn't because the rights didn't exist in the US. They never actually licensed FSS in the US and even now Titan doesn't have it which is why their release is copublished with Kadokawa via Newtype.
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>>23756806
Mostly correct except Toyspress wasn't Nagano's company and he wasn't even a founder or owner of it. It was just another publishing company that had the FSS license and the idea to have it published in English wasn't even Nagano's initiative, it was the CEO of Toyspress Ryoetsu Sato.
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>>23753788
Look what he did to the Knight of Gold. Like good lord.
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>>23760728
I like it.
Can't wait to see what KOG2/Patraqushe looks like
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>>23760728
Must bother you a lot to necro your dead thread to cry about it.
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My only experience with FSS is the movie and I've always heard that it's a terrible adaptation. I'm hoping Titan doesn't fuck this up because I'm definitely interested in the manga. Then again, I'm sure people here would say that if I was actually interested, I would have read scanlations years ago.
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>>23761749
The old official translations have been scanned forever.
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>>23761749
It's not terrible at all, it's a great introduction to the world and story.
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I guess I can ask here, I saw volumes being promoted everywhere at bookstores when I went a while back. I don't have much experience with it so is there a reason? Did something get announced this year or is the manga that popular
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>>23761896
FSS is getting a new English release starting this year published by Titan. The first volume was supposed to be out next month, but it was delayed to July. I don't think there's any particular special reason for why FSS and why now.
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>>23761772
So…is the Buster Launcher a Casaba Howitzer or really fucking powerful rail gun?
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>>23762431
No, it's a pure fantasy hyper dimensional beam weapon.
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>>23761926
i can't see why an english version would cause japanese bookstores to promote it. so maybe it was just no reason
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>>23762508
Its a current ongoing regular series. Why would they not promote it?
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>>23762509
t. didn't read the original question
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>>23753998
>There is no reboot
wikipedia said there was a reboot of the first 3 volumes. What's that about?
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>>23762532
Re-releases with some extras.
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>>23762596
Neat. I guess the english release will have those as well. At least I hope.
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>>23762603
They already did in the Toyspress releases.
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>>23762603
It won't. Just a straight export of the original Japanese volumes. Reboot isn't even numbered the same as the original volumes.
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>>23753998
Literally not a single word of this is true and fuck off Wild Fang
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I want to believe that Nagano's perfectionism will force Titan to publish something that's decent quality. Then again Titan also has its own reputation for MTL and Bible pages for its releases so it really could go either way.
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>>23763587
>and Bible pages
wat
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>>23763611
As in they're thin and fragile.
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>>23756806
>There were no other early English localizations
Uh yes, that was my point.
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>>23763651
>this thing that hasn't been proven to exist exists because I say it does
Is this why you nerds think Nagano cucked Tomino and other imaginary deranged bullshit?
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>>23763587
>Nagano's perfectionism will force Titan to publish something that's decent quality
My sweet child...
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>>23764219
What's the problem?
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>>23764219
The first translation was a treasure
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>>23750134
Why would you do this? This is the death of art.
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>>23761749
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>>23760728
The gold coloring looks so good.
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Should I pick the trades up or is Titan going to put these out in oversized hardcovers like they deserve?
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Gothicmade on netflix when
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>>23768766

I can't fucking believe a hero hasn't snuck in a recording device to a screening so this shit can be pirated. Hell, just get the audio so we can generate a script to read.
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>>23768770
Nips take that shit very seriously, they'd never do it. Also, to my understanding, Gothicmade screening tend to be in like single theater and presumably will have a rather small number of audience. Kinda harder to get away with that stuff when the staff can see very easily. There's a reason most camrips are from shitholes like india and whatnot where the staff don't give a fuck.
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>>23768814
Nobody is doing prison time for some gaijins who wouldn't appreciate it anyway
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>>23768873
Especially since none of them have even read Five Star Stories.
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>>23761772
It's irredeemable dogshit alone for cutting out the entire opening fight between the Black Knight and Mirage.
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>>23768878
They had money for 1 fight scene, and KOG is more important to the actual chapter
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>>23768876
Maybe if Nagano didn't gatekeep all his shit so hard people would actually be able to.
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>>23768883
>gatekeep
The entire English manga has been scanned and online for over 20 fucking years zoomie.
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>>23768884
And yet it's still unfinished.
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>>23768899
It covers all the volumes published up until right before Gothicmade came out, except maybe one or two.
Just be honest about being mad at Gothicmade because you were told you can't have it by whatever dipshit lost media YouTube hack you follow even without knowing what the fuck it is or the franchise it's connected to.
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>>23768899
1) Nagano didn't put Toyspress out of business, not his fault the publisher for the English version fucked themselves up. Him not immediately seeking out a replacement when the English version sold next to no copies isn't "gatekeeping".
There is nothing stopping scanlators from doing it, but of course they won't
2) the comic is currently ongoing, of course it's fucking unfinished. You can't pick up a series unless it's 100% done and over?

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