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Honest thoughts on Omega's lead characters?

>>23758616
Sorato is great especially when he's being a weird retard and Kosei gets better after he calms the fuck down. Ayu feels like a background character and the milf was introduced too late.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvBXUWqd54M
Episode 5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzgB7fbkYXY
Episode 6 preview.

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thoughts on Hokuto and Minami? i seriously think Ace before Minami leaves is seriously amazing

>>23758747
They're a unique duo that the 1970s couldn't handle unfortunately.

>>23758747
Minami basically had no character so while her being forced off the show sucked, it honestly didn't change things too much

>>23758747
Having watched Ace for the first time last year, I unfortunately disagree. The writing becomes significantly better once Minami is taken off the show and Yapool dies, but that’s because it just becomes a slightly worse Return of Ultraman.
The writers clearly had no idea what they were doing with the twin protagonist concept, which is dumb because all they needed to do was keep the pair in the same scenes and have them both comment on stuff.
>Boy Yuko, this latest string of mysterious happenings sure are strange.
>You're tiny Seiji. I can’t figure out what Yapool is up to.
They literally couldn’t handle something as simple as that.
I would love for them to take a second shot at it. A remake of Ace that properly utilizes Hokuto and Minami equally would be great and I think could be done with modern writing sensibilities.

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>>23758747
what am I supposed to think about them? Neither had any interesting traits whatsoever, neither did anything of note throughout the show. Honestly their feature episode in Mebius provided character for them than the entirety of Ace ever gave them.

>>23758940
>>23759199
It's crazy that Minami basically only got an actual backstory and goal once they were writing her off. Especially after they had just done Go in Return of Ultraman who had a pretty defined character and goals (even if this kind of gets forgotten in the last 12 or so episodes).

And, yeah, Seiji is just generic.

Aside from not using the two people into one Ultra idea well, the early episodes also often seemed to use "Yapool" as an excuse to skip putting any effort into introducing the monsters (although there were a couple of exceptions).

I liked the 2nd half more too in this sense since in spite of their original being supposedly tied to Yapool, they generally actually got proper build up/stories rather than just showing up somewhere to attack people or fight against TAC/Ace.

>>23758940
>You're tiny Seiji
???

>>23759311
Autocorrect I didn’t notice. Was supposed to say “You’re right Seiji.”

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>>23759311
i read that the first time and thought "wow she's a little dismissive of him calling him tiny and all but i guess anon is kinda right"

>>23758614
I love Omega's design. Shame the series is meh.

>>23758616
Sorato being a goofball is the best. Kosei annoyed me and even though I love the idea, I just don't like Kosei as the Ultraman host.

Speaking of, considering that Geed and Z mentioned Kosei a lot when they watch Omega, I got a feeling the season will end with them meeting Omega and Kosei, with Omega's final episode being the last one they watch.

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https://x.com/imari_gon/status/2025743203639624141

>>23758747
I love them, I especially love how Ace's design incorporates that masculine and feminine combined into one. The show definitely changes when Minami's no longer in it but I think Hokuto basically coping vicariously through Dan and having genuine manic or depressive moments over the latter half of the show is really interesting and you can really see from that point especially the feeling of RoU shift to Taro.

>>23761953
>ultraman magic mirror van
would you let your gf/wife enter the ultraman magic mirror van?

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LMAO

>>23762329
ah yes kamen rider omega

>>23761953
why Zero and not ginga?

>>23762351
i guess Zero started the whole heisei 2 thing

>>23762351
You know why
it's because zero is more popular

>>23762351
Zero is technically the first New Gen Ultra and he's far and above the most popular Ultra in China and SEA.

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>>23764511
they should upgrade Mebius to a dad-bod already

>>23764575
from the thumbnail I thought it's the Gavv guy on the right because of the jacket

>>23762351
The first NewGen is interesting. Zero is obviously the new beginning of a brand new Ultraman, and they did state the name Zero comes from the desire to start a new Ultraman history from scratch and it was through Zero we got this whole interconnectivity among all Ultramen.

But Ginga does feel way more fitiing for the first of the new era, considering that it's also the first one to get a show. I guess a more proper way to describe is that Ginga is like Man, and Zero is Zoffy.

>>23764918
yeah Sakamoto said Zero is basically Zoffy of New Gen in one of the interviews

>>23764918
>>23764944
This reminds me: Does anyone else think they’re angling to make Z the new main character of the franchise?
I’ve noticed him being used a lot more than even Zero for crossover stuff, and he’s showing up a lot in promotional stuff. Could he be popular enough to supplant Zero in terms of position in the franchise?

>>23765410
Mamoru Miyano is getting old. They've already had to shift Zero's character from "hotshot youth" to "seasoned yet intense veteran."

>>23765410

The "crossover stuff" in this case are just recaps though. I think the Z focus is just because he's funnier for interactions (and still very popular, even if not Zero level).

It'd have more weight if we were getting original mini-series/movies focused on Z. Isn't Zero getting a new movie too in comparison?

>>23765476
I mean, Zero used to be the host of the recap stuff. Now Z has been the face of two in a row.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueCf_3pGdLE
Episode 7 preview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GndJIdSadJQ
Episode 6.

didnt they say that the Blazar in the arc crossover is a different character from the one in his show?

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>>23766220
Watching this made me realize something:
>Can revive dead kaiju
>Wants to make an army of kaiju
>Has a leadership position in their subtitle
Is Hellnarak just an updated Geronimon?

>>23766559
No, fans here assumed that due to no returning characters from SKaRD and no Firdran Armor. There was an official relationship chart posted before that treated both as the same one though.

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Just finished the Tiga series. Still gotta watch the movies but man, what a great series. Even though the ending has some corny stuff it still almost brought me, a 28 year old manly man pseudo-normie, to tears. I absolutely loved every episode. AT WORST an episode would just be kinda mid, and there was only ever one or two of those. I can't believe I held off watching it for so long. I haven't seen every Ultraman series but Tiga has got to be my favorite Ultraman series of all time, and Tiga himself is now my favorite Ultra of all time. Damn is was so good, I loved all the characters, I loved all the action, I love the special effects, I love the drama between the characters, I love the designs, it was all great. I loved the dynamic between Daigo and Rena, and I really enjoyed the episode in which she realizes Daigo is Tiga, it's all so good.

Can't wait to watch the movies and continue on to Dyna. Can I expect a similar level of kino in Dyna?

>>23767140
>Can I expect a similar level of kino in Dyna?

And more! and after that, more kino in Gaia.

Found an interview of Takesue on reddit:

"When asked about his vision for future productions, Takesue said this is something he has long considered. If a future Ultraman series could air during prime time (around 8 to 10 p.m.) and adopt a one-hour format, it might allow for a style of storytelling quite different from previous entries in the franchise."

Interesting thought there: would a 1-hour ultraman show work?

>>23767713
No. The pacing would be a slog and the disparity between monster action and the rest of the episode would become more obvious.

>>23767713
Maybe if they lean into the X-Files side of things. Or The Flash

>>23767140
Dyna is pretty much just Tiga if the entire cast was hot blooded, I do consider them equal to each other, albeit I think Dyna has higher highs and lower lows

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>>23767713
It's from this interview
>https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1174358115923001347

>>23767713
>>23767767
>>23767795
>We could do Nexus again, people would like it for sure this time around

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>>23767704
Oh boy I'm excited to finish out the heisei trilogy then!
>>23767900
Interesting, I'll give it a try

I finished the Tiga final odyssey movie last night after I made my initial post. Not that I hated it, but it does feel like it's execution is a bit wonky. Nothing was offensive, and in fact it's chock full of really good fan service...but really just for the characters and amusingly not the ultras. I found the choreography for the ultra fights to be a little bland, while the concepts at play were really good and interesting. The execution feels like they either needed to go through one more revision on everything, or they over thought everything which kinda made it not hit as hard. I did really love to see Daigo and Rena together as a couple, and getting married no less. I feel like you don't see that sorta things in shows these days, so that was nice. It was also amusing to me that they were getting married in a Christian church, meaning that there is a nonzero chance that Daigo and Rena are Christian which is sorta funny for me and I imagine annoying to other people, but ultimately I think it's actually very fitting as Daigo takes the form of a "giant of light" and the symbology there just sorta works. Regardless, good movie, doesn't feel super necessary though, and a bit like a rehash of the finale of the series but with different details sprinkled in. I don't feel like it's necessary viewing unless you wanna see more chummy stuff with Daigo and Rena, which is great, but not required

Also all the cameos of the Dyna cast were lost on me, but I'm sure I'll come to enjoy that later when I watch Dyna

>>23767713
>>23768031
I think this could work, making Ultraseries more of a general audience thing again and keeping up the less toyetic (or rather, simply having the kaiju be where Ultra's toyeticness comes from) form we've been getting the last few years. A later time slot would certainly help with the type of stories they could tell.

Only thing is, they'd need to increase the budget they give these shows so that hour runtime can look genuinely impressive and movie-like like it once did. While I personally wouldn't mind it, an hour of shows that look like Omega would not do much to move the needle in terms of new or long time viewership and we would seriously need something as expensive looking as Tiga or RoU did for its time

>>23767713
>>23768091
I would love a more serious tone and less toyetic production, but I honestly hate most hour-long shows. Feels like all that happens is that a bunch of unnecessary b-plots get added that take away from the reason you’re watching the show. If they can keep it focused on kaiju and alien attacks, great. If we’re getting a bunch of bullshit drama, no thank you.

>>23768116
That's fair, I'm not the biggest fan of hour long shows either, I think 40 minutes would be a nice sweet spot for Ultra since I feel like in that time you could better execute for example what Blazar was aiming to do in its final episodes while keeping Ultra's pace which is something I've always felt it had over both Godzilla and the Toei toku in terms of taking it slow and giving things room to breathe but not so slow that it's glacial.

It's something I'd like to see as an experimental miniseries first perhaps to see if they can manage that additional time well, but I can deal with a bit inter-defense team or even inter-Ultra drama for example so long as it's compelling and has something to say about people, the world or the kaiju/seijin in-series

>>23768079
>meaning that there is a nonzero chance that Daigo and Rena are Christian
Eiji Tsuburaya himself was, hence all Ultramen forming a cross before firing their beams and the Ultraseven crucifixation that a ton of later shows referenced. Tiga was probably referencing that rather saying anything about the characters

>I don't feel like it's necessary viewing
Well, unfortunately, Ultraman Trigger is far more based on that movie than it is the show, so if you have any interest in Trigger (which, granted, you shouldn't, it's one of the worst Ultra shows), it's important for that reason

>Also all the cameos of the Dyna cast were lost on me
I watched that movie after watching Dyna and I can't remember any Dyna character cameoing in the movie

>>23768041
Nexus in an appropriate time slot would've done fine. The issue was it was airing on Sunday mornings.

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>>23767900
Tiga-anon here, you weren't kidding about Dyna just being hot blooded Tiga. Everyone in this show is either an asshole or just needlessly amped all the time. Only on episode 3 but so far I don't really know anything about the Super GUTS(retarded name btw) crew other than Shin Asuka being a beyond cocky asshole and Ryo being vocal about not liking that but clearly wanting to be dicked down by him. It's like all subtlety and nuance is gone between the cast. Dyna himself is...alright I guess. The effects execution is better than Tiga so far which is cool, but somehow not as appealing. Dyna also just shows up randomly which I don't really like. Maybe it'll get fleshed out later but so far RN it feels like Shin got Ultraman powers because he really really wanted to and that's it.

I already see what they are trying to do with Shin but I already infinitely like Daigo better. Maybe that's an unfair comparison especially this early in but Daigo's message of "all humans have darkness within them but can become the light if they choose" was just exemplified so much better from the get go with him. Idk, not liking the crew as much as the Tiga GUTS, we'll see. I don't feel as invested as I did 3 episodes into Tiga with Dyna

>>23768123
>That's fair, I'm not the biggest fan of hour long shows either, I think 40 minutes would be a nice sweet spot
45 minutes is an hour long show due to commercials and opening/ending.

>>23768091
>>23768123
>>23768116

The Heisei UltraSeven series did have hour long episodes. So, there is that if you want to see how that would turn out.

>>23767767
Hell recent series have shorter length action scenes compared to previous ones. 1 hour Ultra would feel a huge slog.

>>23768330
>I watched that movie after watching Dyna and I can't remember any Dyna character cameoing in the movie
Super GUTS members cameo lending help as fighter pilots, and Asuka himself appears in the last scene as a maintenance worker greeting Daigo who sense that he's going to be Dyna.

>>23768797
Yeah, as much as I love Dyna, I remember thinking the first episode I thought was really on par with the best stuff from Tiga was episode 10. And that's with me really liking Asuka too. Maybe you didn't watch the entire franchise in production order like I did, but holy shit, I did not care about Daigo whatsoever and viewed him as a completely featureless cardboard cutout, easily the weakest point of Tiga. It was exacerbated by every prior Ultra protagonist except Gen being just as bland. Asuka was one hell of a breath of fresh air in comparison, finally a protagonist that felt like something other than a robot

The show in general is more comedic than Tiga, but it still doesn't pull its punches when the chips fall.There's still episodes where people die, where the team fails, etc. Hell, IIRC it still has a higher body count than Nexus despite being comedic. But it's uh, got some dumber episodes too that I imagine the director thought was funny somehow.


Anyway if it's not something you're enjoying Cosmos is also pretty similar to Tiga (Gaia isn't), and is also in some ways better (if you can put up with Doigaki). It's more consistently good than Dyna but no human characters die at any point in Cosmos, so it feels like it's lacking in edge sometimes. On the other hand it has an absolutely brilliant overarching antagonist, a really good protagonist and core cast (except for Doigaki, who is basically an infantilized Horii), and it still manages mature themes and an occasional dark tone without killing anyone to boot

I'm slowly picking away at Max still. About 20 episodes in. There have been a few memorable ones but on the whole I still think it's just "fine," which is why I'm taking so long with it. It's partially because the cast is either boring or so one note that they don't have much of a character at all beyond joke setups. Sean is a treasure though.

>>23767713
Does he not watch Omega, his own series? He should know that doing this will just make it worse

>>23768079
>It was also amusing to me that they were getting married in a Christian church, meaning that there is a nonzero chance that Daigo and Rena are Christian
Naw, Japanese people just really like Christian-style weddings. They’re largely a non-religious people, but enjoy the set up of Christian weddings more than their traditional culture’s.
I’ve been watching KyuuKyuu Sentai GoGoFive and a recent episode had someone married in a Christian-style wedding as well. It’s just popular over there, even though Christianity is a minority belief in Japan.