Anything theoretically can

>>23761818
All Eva spinoffs have been AU since the beginning. That's because Eva itself is extremely narrow in scope and its universe has no meaning beyond the existence of the three main characters.

>>23761818
the rebuilds are already AU anon

>>23761841
Yeah, weak world building. I think Rei is simply a plot device for Shinji. The only real characters are Asuka and Shinji.

>>23761818
>>23761848
Fuck off zoomoid.

>>23761849
What makes you think that?

I won't be surprised if the protagonist is female; it's been a trend lately.

>>23761856
Yeah lately dating back to the 70s.

>>23761858
Okay, give me some mainstream robot shows with a female protagonist that are not for fan service.

>>23761867
>give me some mainstream robot shows with a male protagonist that are not for man service.

>>23761818
The real question is whether Evangelion can stand on its own without its iconic cast. Eva has been for the last 30 its characters and their dynamics. Taro now has ahead the gargantuan challenge of writing a cast of characters which works as well as the one from the original Eva: this enough makes me question how good this show will be.
In general I think Eva managed to catch lighting in a bottle back in the 90's and anything that had come later, nerd fun aside, is an inferior derivative that at most reiterates what was already said back in the day. The desire of Anno of having Eva AUs like Gundam is something I can understand, but was it really needed when your show is just 15 years younger than Gundam and essentially survived on its own little 26 episodes + movie until now? yes there were the Rebuilds, but there was also a 10 year gap between the last two. Eva remained popular in the anime fandom even without the push of the Rebuilds

Tsurumaki really is just Anno's eva slave in perpetuity huh

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>>23761897
Why do you retards always talk about something being "necessary"? It's fucking entertainment, if they want to do a shitty movie they'll do it, if they want to lend the IP to France to do a stage play they'll do it. Why do you feel the need to analyze whether it's necessary or not?

>>23761897
>Eva remained popular in the anime fandom even without the push of the Rebuilds
Eva would be forgotten about without the Rebuilds. At best it shows up in retro "this is a classic anime you need to watch!!!!" lists like Bebop. 99% of Eva merch is from the Rebuilds and the fact that everyone knows who Mari is but not Mana should be a sign of what's more popular.

>>23761906
>Why do you retards always talk about something being "necessary"? It's fucking 4chan posting, if they want to do a shitty post they'll do it, if they want to lend the thread to /a/ to do a thinly veiled porn dump they'll do it. Why do you feel the need to analyze whether it's necessary or not?
Shit aside, they could try to do something new instead of relying on the legacy of something else.
>>23761917
I have some doubts about it, the Eva that seems to be discussed and has consolidated in the pop culture is definetly the orginal story, not the rebuilds.

>>23761920
>they could try to do something new instead of relying on the legacy of something else
Irrelevant.

>>23761917
Zoomers and younger are retarded, we know. We don't need to care about their opinions.

>>23761920
>Shit aside, they could try to do something new instead of relying on the legacy of something else.
Anno wants his own franchise to be like Gundam. Anno loves Gundam.

The idea that people can't have these types of things and everything needs to be one and done is also stupid.

>>23761897
That's a wrong attitude to go with.
Rather than focusing on the second show's quality, you should be asking what are their plans for the "third" show at this stage.
Of course, GEEWUN will always be the most popular cashcow, but they can turn it into a larger franchise as long as they will continue pushing the new entries out past the initial resistance of the core fanbase.

>>23761841
Exactly. The show establishes that there are no angel battles before episode 1, there can be no angel battles after episode 24, and THE third impact already happened at the end of the show, and cannot possibly happen again. Where is there room for more content? Battles between human armies with their own MP Evas? That show would suck.
Eva tied everything up in its runtime.

>>23761933
>past the initial resistance of the core fanbase
The core fanbase loves anything Eva, western irony poisoned millennials are not the core fanbase.

>>23761943
Loves anything Eva that is related to original cast, you mean.
Would it love Eva in the name only? With no Shinji, Rei, Asuka or Kaworu?

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>>23761818
No because Evangelion is Anno's self insert therapy session.

>>23761990
He said not for fan service. "Big titty otaku gf" is undeniably fan service.

>>23761990
But she isn't the protagonist

>>23761818
I don't see why so many people seem to struggle with this idea when it comes to anime. tenchi's been doing it for ages too.

>>23762049
>so many people
It's just americans.

>>23761818
I think like Code Geass, Evangelion and it's fanbase is too heavily attached to the original cast for AUs to really catch on.

>>23762065
>HUUUUUUUUUU DUUUUUUUUUUR AMUUUURICUUUUUUUR
Go eat sidewalk

>>23761841
>three
One

>>23762049
The west is big Genwunners for everything, they hate the idea than things can be more than just one entry.

>>23761850
He heard eva was deep and influential so he thought that meant all main protagonists must be equally developed and important, but he forgot to watch the fucking anime.

>>23762099
There's like six hundred different Batmen. Your generalization is dumb.

>>23762107
And the only one most people care about is when its Bruce. Comics are unable to move past their own "first" versions most of the time (Whether or not those successors are good or not is another issue).

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Honestly I'm shocked they haven't tried this sooner. Stuff like Mazinger, Gundam or Getter do it all the time.

>>23762099
Any time they make a new Spider-man movie or cartoon nobody needs to be explained that it's a new thing. Western adaptations do this all the time.

>>23761841
So this is what they meant when they said Eva was "about the characters"

>>23762177
>It's spiderman but he's uhhh black lol
Wow such high concept!

>>23762099
I am no genwunners, it's just that Eva wants to do its AU a bit too late in my opinion. While for Gundam and other series having multiple casts of characters in multiple settings is the norm (see Gundam), this is absolutely not the case for Eva.
From a cultural point of view, if I can use this word, the Eva that most love is the network of relationships that the characters have with each other, which is then inserted in the broader context of the story settings.
A total blank slate with at most some liefmotif from the original show would be a huge jump for Eva as a franchise. So huge that I would bet my left testicle that some sort of multiverse bullshit will come out to justify some original character to come back at some point in the story

>>23762225
Retard.

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>>23762205
While I will happily agree that Miles is a complete Poochie you're ultimately still missing the point. Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1PePr8hAsc

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>>23761897
I don't agree that Eva universe is narrow.
I want to watch a series that's for example about Nerv operators, or Nerv security/intelligence. There's lots of possibilities with the Nerv vs Seele dynamics. Show me who the fuck is the cat lady.
Then Rebuild left the time skip possibilities, Wille vs Nerv, show what the fuck was that all about Commander Nagisa and all that.
Then of course there's the possibility of a real AU and in that case you have endless possibilities with a different way of presenting the Eva vs Angels, the Impacts, Adams, Lilith, etc. A totally new cast is indeed a risky move, but the setting and universe provides a lot of tools to work with.

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New Eva-01? Design

>>23762334
I'll call it the Nu-Unit-01.

>>23761818
It sure worked out well for Gundam. Every AU series has been just top notch quality. Interesting, believable and likable characters, outstanding world building and sensible plot lines. Pinnacle mech designs, the list goes on and on!

>>23761818
They've been doing AUs the entire time
>Show
>Death & Rebirth, EoE
>Petit Eva: Evangelion@School
>Rebuild
>Manga
Why wouldn't another AU work? That's all it's ever been.

>>23762327
It's a mile wild, but an inch deep. There's no actual substance, just surface level ideas.

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>>23762384
Because you say so?

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>>23761934
>The show establishes that there are no angel battles before episode 1, there can be no angel battles after episode 24, and THE third impact already happened at the end of the show, and cannot possibly happen again
a proper AU could disregard everything NGE laid out and do its own thing utilizing only recurring themes & visuals
>is there room for more content?
unlike the shitty rebuilds, a proper AU wouldn't have to confine itself to what came before

>>23762379

Earlier Evangelion AUs simply used the same characters (Shinji Ikari and his father Gendo, Misato Katsuragi, Asuka Langley Soryu, Rei Ayanami, et al). I do, however, hope this upcoming AU avoids using them.

>>23762379
>>Death & Rebirth, EoE
>AU
The absolute state of /m/.

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>>23762530
He's correct.

>>23761818
>Twatter thread on /m/
This board is truly dead

>>23761846
what he mean is that a all new cast of characters in a universe outside of Shinji's kinda like how Wing has nothing to do with Universal Century shows.

>>23761818
I don't care for AUs after G-Cucks.

>>23761818
No. This is because of the world Anno set up. Now, if it's someone that isn't Anno, yes. Because EVA is as loose as a goose that just wants to be for the taking. But I accept 3.0 + 1.0 as the definitive finale. He should do something else.

>>23762316
>It's spiderman but he's uhhh a gook lol
Wow such high concept!

>>23762648
>It's anon but a massive faggot
Wow such high concept!

>>23762571
wing doesn't have -nothing- to do with UC, just look at characters like zechs
anyway i get what anon meant but rebuild cast only shares superficial traits with tv cast, they're basically different people
it's all AU to varying degrees

>>23762777
>anyway i get what anon meant but rebuild cast only shares superficial traits with tv cast, they're basically different people
>it's all AU to varying degrees

Rebuild still had the first two movies that were direct retellings of the original series though, before it branched out. Yeah, there were differences back then, especially in the 2nd one, but even, say, SEED wasn't so close to MSG.

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>>23762388
The universe revolves around Shinji and everything else is secondary. Did you even watch 3.0? Proves Anno did not give a fuck about the lore and it's just there to look cool in a superficial manner lol

>>23762648
He is barely spiderman and more like tokusatsu nippon ichi #13565467

>>23762159
There's like five hundred different Bruce Waynes

>>23762205
>>23762648
Arguing in bad faith. I accept your concession. Don't post again.

>>23762388
The series is surface level. Things are just name dropped and barely explored. These subjects weren't explored at all till the Nintendo 64 game, then never again.

>>23762831
And they are all Bruce Wayne

>>23762834
lel zoomers read a wiki page and think they know shit

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My current favorite genre is tsunderes from mecha anime in an office lady AU.

>>23762837
Why do you think videos like "X explained" got popular? They don't actually experience things themselves anymore.

>>23762837
Yeah, that's why I don't bother to argue with people concerning deeper NGE lore if they haven't played the N64 game.

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>>23762831
In the comics Bruce is still and will remain as the main Batman for all the eternity, there was a year where he "died" and was replaced by Dick, but we knew he was still alive and making his come back. The batman that sells is Bruce, not Christian Bale Bruce or Manhattan Bruce.

>>23762837
Worse, they read a 100 page thread on evageeks discussing an interview by the dude who did the colors in episode 10 on the newtype magazine, carefully translating what he said and all the possible meanings it could have.

>>23762862
Yeah. Splitting hairs on different versions is irrelevant and not what is meant by genwunnerism. They are all still the person people want.

>>23762862
The Batman that sells is poor Bruce.
Actually, it's the only DC comic book that sells nowadays.

>>23761841
This.
Just compare tv shinji with the rest, there are enough differences even in tone, they could be considered essentially AU's.

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>>23762862
And nobody had any trouble understanding or enjoying TAS, Justice League and Brave and The Bold, plenty of off continuity and elseworld books get made and enjoyed

Is /m/ full of newfags today or are people purposely pretending to not understand decades old terminology that is used every day in this board?

>>23761990
>fan service completely taken over the IP and the character who is the namesake of the IP is a literalwho cause all the "fans" are too busy grooming
Kek

>>23762879
Study English before using it.

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>>23762834
>These subjects weren't explored at all till the Nintendo 64 game
nani?

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>>23762850
How and why is this actually a thing now?

>>23762956
Evangelion episode 27

>>23761818
Anything can work with AU, but the question is will the AU be good.

Will it be like Tsurumaki and Taro's latest projects where all the new characters and plot get ignored and the only things people care about are cameos from the older more popular characters and maybe one character's ass

>>23763057
The better question is will you complain about it regardless of the show's outcome like you have been doing for literally every new show?

>>23762530
If you think EoE Shinji is the same person from the TV series you have zero media literacy.

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>>23763109
NTA but was it ever stated that they were different universes between TV and EoE?
Wasn't a lot of the events from EoE originally planned for the TV series? (Which is why a lot of scenes are parallel between EoTV and EoE, like deas misato and ritsuko, eva-02 under the lake, etc)
Shinji "wanting to be here" at the end of EoTV I always understood as just the same ending of EoE: he rejects instrumentality and prefers the individuality and being himself. I do remember 1 single instance of an official piece of merch (a trading card IIRC) where it kind of suggested EoTV was shinji's heart complemented (so like he accepted instrumentality), as opposed to his rejection in EoE. However that doesn't make too much sense to me. If he had accepted instrumentality, there would be no Shinji or any individuals at all anymore. Also the coral seafloor scenery of the Omedetou finale is also paralleled on EoE to the part Shinji talks with Rei and Kaworu and tells them he "wants to be here".
It's ambiguous really, but I don't think it'd make sense to "accept yourself" if you're complemented with all other humans, since it's more like a hivemind.
Another thing, besides the "theatrical edition", the original Genesis:13 and Genesis:14 contained both episodes 25 and 26 respectively, suggesting all 4 episodes make the ending, and aren't meant to be separate or AU.

>>23763146
It's not a different universe, that guy is a twitterfag and deserves no (You)s.

>>23762388
Explain the purpose of Seele without talking about Shinji or his mom and dad.

>>23763146
>>23763157
People have become retarded about the whole concept of "timelines" in media.

If the Gundam 0079 movies came out today we'd see people treating them as some new timeline.

>>23763218
>dude but how could amuro be from 3 different nationalities? they HAVE to be different universes!!!!1!1!!1

>>23762308
thanks you too
>>23762327
I never stated that the Eva universe is narrow. The first thing that comes to my mind is ANIMA and the wild shit that happens there. Even the rebuilds are somewhat in that territory, too bad they never expand the post 2.0 world and everything is there just kinda for show this ignoring the clear changes they made in plot/""lore"" between movies. The question is if the show will manage to stand on its own after 30 years of Eva being Shinji and co.

>>23763109
this, fuck that movie.

>>23761818
Pretty much all large mecha franchises have gotten the AU treatment at some point, but I think the issue will be how they approach the EVAs and the Angels, since both have a hyper-specific purpose of the former combatting the angels and the latter trying to kickstart the third impact before Gendo can. I guess you could reduce it down to a generic "super robot fights monster of the week" with NGE branding, but that seems rather uninteresting. It's also funny how the end of rebuild was Anno telling all the fans to move the fuck on with their lives, but has no qualms about doubling back to cash out like a total kike.

>>23761818
of course, it opens up new opportunities to sell more merch, I'm sure they can only sell the same EVA figures only so many times until fans get bored, so it's time for an excuse to have AU variants

>>23763733
>I guess you could reduce it down to a generic "super robot fights monster of the week" with NGE branding, but that seems rather uninteresting.

I mean, look at Persona 3/4/5. They all made up different reasons to keep the calendar system going where each month has a big boss battle. I'd imagine something similar. We'll get weird monsters appearing due to some behind the scenes plot slowly unveiled, it's just that the behind the scenes plot will be different from the original Eva's.

>>23763760
now they'll rip off a mix of Thunderbirds and Kamen Rider instead of UFO and Ultraman

>>23763207
Keel Lorentz and his buddies were dying men and saw this as an opportunity to never die if they achieved HIP within their lifetime

>>23761818
a spinoff in the same universe would be impossible but every anime can have an AU and it'd work. AUs are just completely different anime with some similar motifs, doesn't even have to have the same themes and vibe if you're talking about Gundam style alternate universes. Eva designs and stuff like ATs are recognizable enough that it'd easily work

ok but who is the mech designer?

>>23761931
>Anno loves Gundam.
Then he should work on Gundam. What's the problem? They don't pay him enough?

>>23761818
Only if its with other characters and new Eva models, and even then it wont be as interesting like Gundam or Kamen rider, Eva isn't a particular interesting concept on itself, the characters and plot did the heavy lifting

>>23764581
>Eva isn't a particular interesting concept on itself
You people say the stupidest shit with so much confidence.

>>23761818
Any story can be reworked to fit gimmick templates with enough care and effort. The real question is, even if it were as engaging as the original series, will a certain subset of fan be able to accept it without spontaneously combusting?

>>23763879
I actually wouldn't mind this at all.

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>>23764578
>he should work on gundam
Anon...

>>23764585
Only a person with double digit IQ who is just following a treand would disagree with that statement. Yes, Eva is narrow as fuck. You don't like eva, you just heard it was kwool and influential and decided to hang out with the cool kids who actually gave a thought ot two to the series, well you're fucking retarded.

>>23764578
You don't know what "Studios" are, do you?