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>Make setting school because modern audiences feel disconnected from actual wars
Well that idea aged like milk.

Though on the other hand, given the post-9/11 era and Iraq conflicts seemed to have heavily influenced Gundam 00 and some other, I wonder what the world landscape of the world will influence future media.
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>>23770811
I don't think the Japs care much about the shit going on in Ukraine and Iran.
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>>23770812
You're wrong, but they were affected even less by what I already said, but that inspired anime.
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>>23770811
Trump's about to start a renaissance in Gundam
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>>23770812
We got Dougram out of the French slapping the Algerian independence movement around.
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>>23770879
It's more about Middle East. Dougram mention Israel and Palestine through newspapers.
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>>23770811
>Well that idea aged like milk
What do you mean? They captured American school shootings perfectly
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The real problem is this show was simultaneously stuck to a school setting AND uninterested in actually using the school setting, so it had all the disadvantages of being anchored to one location for most of the show, without capitalizing on what would make that setting unique for a Gundam.
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>>23770963

OP was referring to this:

>Another thing about the PROLOGUE is that corporations seem to be one of the key factors in the show, as the Benerit Group runs Asticassia School of Technology in the main story.

>That would be correct. Though, exactly how that relates to the story, well, you’ll just have to wait for the broadcast to find out. But, during the proposal stages, the reason we chose corporations as one of the factors is because of the happenings in the world, as I mentioned earlier, and reaching a younger generation. We felt that a major war between major powers, something like nations pitted against nations, wouldn’t seem that realistic and would be difficult to connect with. Smartphones and online shopping are pretty easy to navigate, but most of what we own and use today is dominated by specific corporations. So I figured that a world everyone might connect with more today, one divorced from war, would be a society dominated by such corporations.

Source: http://www.zeonic-republic.net/?page_id=9814
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>>23770982
The 'between major powers' bit is pretty key. The audience they're making it for is in the developed word for the most part, which hasn't really had to smack on with anyone in a peer or near peer capacity in a very long time.
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>>23770811
>>Make setting school because modern audiences feel disconnected from actual wars
>Well that idea aged like milk.
Not really, WFM already aired and reached that audience, anyone who would be influenced by the nonsense in Iran will just be a different group for a different show.
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>>23771007
WFM audience is women with an IQ lower than 80.
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>>23771008
I don't give a shit about who the audience is, the point is that the show accomplished exactly what Bandai wanted, new major events just means they have something new to fuel their next AU
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>>23771009
I don't like AUs and it got me thinking why, and I realized the older I get the more I like Tomino rather than the IP itself. I have more loyalty to a person than I do a brand. So many things are made by a boardroom now to appease stockholders and we stopped trusting individuals with a vision who have a story they want to tell.
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the only interesting part was the terrorist attack in the school and the poor bastards that had like negative realm fucking chances to survive the onslaught
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>>23771058
Oh man, I didn't even make it that far into the show before dropping it.
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I'm fascinated by the handful of people constantly making threads to talk about how much they hate a show they also then say they didn't really watch much of anyway.
I would simply not spend my days thinking about a show I disliked. I would even opt to talk about the ones I like instead.
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>>23771062
it was at the very end of the first cour and it is reasonable why many people dropped the show before that part as barely anything happened in the first 10 or so episodes
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>>23771068
Hatred is one hell of a thing.
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>>23771068
I'm fascinated by what becomes popular and why. Like how do people enjoy this mediocre garbage? It is like Starbucks to me. I drink black coffee and when I see people waiting in line for Starbucks my brain cannot process it, and not enough people drink black coffee for me to talk to others about it.
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>>23771073
I would've believed that like, a year of these ritualistic hate threads ago maybe.
You are on a board filled with threads about other shows. You can absolutely find people talking about things you actually enjoy.
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>>23771076
Spite is keeping me alive. I'll talk about shows I like on Friday when the new episode of Frieren airs.
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>>23770812
Well good thing we have China taunting Japan over their support for Taiwan then.
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>>23771068
I'm OP and I'm not any of those people you're talking about. I just wanted to comment on the irony like >>23770982 said.
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Can I ask a question? What do you guys like about G-Witch? Is it the setting, the mechs, the characters? Is it just like the themes of the show and the overall writing, or do you just watch anything that is yuri?
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>>23770812
>Iran
If only we could get another 00... What a timeless classic.
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>>23771008
In Japan, GWitch audience are middle-aged men. In the west, it's trannies and feminists
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>>23771131
Mostly setting and characters. The yuri I'm actually a bit resentful towards it for becoming the entire focus of S2 and kneecapping everything else, including themes. But the girls are all cute, so it's whatever.
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>>23771175
Is Witch your favorite Gundam show?
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>>23770812
Victory Gundam was largely set in Eastern Europe
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>>23770884
no it isn't you dumb faggot, it's nearly 1:1 with the algerian independence movement. i watched it while i was studying algeria for a college course.
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>>23771011
spoken like a true retard who probably hasn't watched anything by tomino that isn't gundam
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Just to be clear as OP, I didn't make this thread to necessarily be a WFM thread specifically.

But on subject, mecha is probably the genre most affected by and influenced by war. Sure, its not the only genre to be, but because it deals specifically with conflict, it in turn is influenced by it. Changes in the world affect people who will write based on it.

As the US declines as the sole super power and others catch up and will probably surpass, we are entering a new era as larger conflicts have sprung up. Regardless of what one feels towards any sides in those conflicts, outcomes will affect the world at large even if not immediately apparent. As we enter probably the biggest shift in the world in a long time, these things will affect more and more people. Up until now, open large scale warfare was not something that happened anymore was the thought that most people had and many people had no connection to. Even the American War on Terror stuff, while a big influence on the world stage, was not as big of a shift as things happening now are.
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>>23770811
Having female protagonists is a direct byproduct of this. Gundam was created by people whose immediate family fought in ww2, every aspect of the story was colored by this fact. Now such people might as well be ancient aliens to the writers.
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>>23771261
Nobody's reading/watching your WWII memoir, grandpa. And if you want to get the same stories over and over again, you end up like Hollywood capeshit - increasingly insular, targeting an aging population of nostalgic oldfags and with returns ever diminishing.
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>>23771279
Maybe I am just a retard and consider some things to be timeless idk.
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>>23771279
An /m/ equivalent of the Night Witches as the basis for a story could be interesting.
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>>23770812
Tomino called Zelensky a newtype
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>>23771289
>>23771293
Based.
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>>23771279
That's exactly what Gcucks was and it had a marketable female protagonist so your correlation is wrong
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>>23771322
Machu was just a excuse to get a show about Challia Bull wank approved
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>>23771324
So? If that's a requirement to get a story about war approved then that proves that i'm right
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>>23770812
They weren't super affected by the Iraq war but we got 00 out of that.
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>>23771073
>Like how do people enjoy this mediocre garbage?
Anon, entertainment is about resonating with the audience and it did exactly that. People on this board masturbate all over Turn A Gundam and would let Tomino shit directly into their mouths, but it flopped because it's the most boring, auteur shit ever featuring the ugliest mecha design in the franchise and an effeminate black man with no agency of his own, and so it resonated with no one. It's not that complicated.
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>>23771348
I am sorry for liking David Lynch?
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>anything remotely newsworthy happens
>OMG HOW WILL THIS IMPACT THE NEXT GUNDAM??? (we all know it won't)
Shut the fuck up.
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>>23771348
Anon is not here to understand, anon is here to marvel at how people can have worse taste by not liking all the same things he does.
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>>23771008
So all women?
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>>23771177
It's losing to 00 by a neck.
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>>23770811
>Well that idea aged like milk.
Got a problem with cheese and yogurt?
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>>23771675
I think I watched maybe three episodes of 00. My favorite Gundam is Zeta. Zeta might be my favorite anime ever made.
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>>23771068
Those people are zoomers that don't pay attention to anything that isn't their smart phones and ipads. All of their information on stuff comes from secondhand sources like sloptubers who also didn't watch but cribbed what they were told through TV Tropes.

>>23771073
And then there's this asshole who doesn't actually watch anything and just likes to argue.
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>>23771721
You're right. Anyone who dislikes G-Witch is an idiot. They are probably nerds who read actual books without pictures and watch black and white movies and other lame shit.
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>>23771705
Understandable. It's easily my favorite UC entry too.
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>>23771729
>Anyone who dislikes G-Witch is an idiot.
Well yes, but not for the reasons you mentioned. Usually it's just stock twitter outrage like "Wokeism". Go ahead anon. Say the line.
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>>23771771
What line? I don't like the show because I think the writing is bad. The main characters are bland, and the narrative lacks any nuance or subtlety.
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>>23771783
Like seriously I think the MC is incredibly annoying and unlikeable and I want to punch her in the throat everytime she stutters. I couldn't even tell you if the white haired girl has a personality or not.
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>>23771787
She failed as a mecha MC and would better fit in a shoujo or some CGDCT shit.

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