It insists upon itself.

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>>43069927
It's a masterpiece.

>>43069935
Nope. It's terrible in every single conceivable way.

>>43069927
I hate FOE so much that instead of joining in on shitting on it, I'm hiding this thread so I don't see it!

i've never read it, despite being an oldfag who likes fics. I also had most of it spoiled to me, including the ending, years ago by a friend that I don't even talk to anymore.

I kind of like the idea of the ending. Also, it's kind of grim how they deal with the mane 6 in it. I can't remember what happens to AJ, but I know that pretty much all of them except for Fluttershy are already dead.

>>43069927
this

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>>43069947
AJ was the only one to get to a stable safely before megaspells hit and died several decades later of old age. She never left the stable after the end.
Rarity died in Canterlot during the last day, from Pink Cloud poisoning. Her final action was saving Fluttershy by teleporting her out of the city into the everfree.
Fluttershy survived, transformed into a tree by poison joke and forced to observe the destruction of Equestria over the centuries.
Pinkie Pie died in a Megaspell explosion in the Ministry Hub in Manehattan, just after she'd decided to turn her life around, overhaul the ministry and mend the things with Twilight.
Twilight died several days after the war. She survived the megaspell hit, sealed in a bunker at a research facility in Splendid Valley but was later consumed alive by the entity known as "the Goddess", born out of the combined minds of Trixie and several other unicorns that had also been in the facility at the time and were affected by extreme amounts of Impelled Metamorphosis Potion that breached containment after the megaspell exploded above.
Rainbow Dash's final fate is unknown. Littlepip even makes a comment about it in the later chapter. However, it is known that she survived the war as she was the first pegasus to break with the Pegasus Enclave and return to the scorched earth from the sealed skies, sparking the "Dashite" movement of pegasi with similar mindset.

I like Fo:E. Despite all it's faults, it's a very FiM story. Very tragic too. It makes you sad, it makes you smile and it's well written, what else do you need from a good fanfic?

>>43070047
>it's well written
pfft

>>43069927
YES! Finally someone brave enough to say it! Fall out equestria is shit with a stupid Mary Sue mc. Project Horizons was the superior story. Way better written, better characters and world building, more grounded. And less cuck bull shit... I don't consider speak cannon, I have no idea why they turned her into a pedophile.

>>43070181
Project Horizons was shit too. All FoE related media is shit.

>>43069927
So like is the Chosen One from Fallout 2 a Zebra or a Unicorn

>>43069927
People who judge objectively and don't have a pony bias say it's shit.
People who autistically love both Fallout and FiM say it's a masterpiece.
This means it's objectively not good. It's a bad Fallout fic that just happened to be set in FiM. Hearing that a pony fic is good from a pony fan is NOT an objective and good indicator of a well written story. People love pony because it's pony, regardless of poor writing.

>>43070285
I made my fren from /v/ read Fo:E. He tried to finish it but dropped after Red Eye's death I think. He said it was like reading someone's lets play, he liked references to all Fallout games pushed into one story. He said the story is really hit or miss but most of the time it's really boring. Some characters are annoying and dyke shit. He gave it like 4/10 or smth.

>>43070181
>stupid mary sue mc
>shills project horizons
what?

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>>43069927
For normal people, it's only the best fic ever, but for Slavic people, it's the second bible.

>>43070515
>for Slavic people, it's the second bible
No wonder all FoE games come from Slavs.

>>43070515
>>43070543
this is odd because you'd expect slavs praising Ukrainian Stalker over American Fallout, they even had Stalker conventions in Russia and Ukraine. I have no idea why there is no popular My Little Stalker fics or games from Slavs

>>43070546
FoE came out 6 months after the pilot; so it was pretty quick to fill in that niche. After that, Stalker would have had no chance. It would have needed to come out before that.

>>43069927
Write a better one.
>>43070018
Frankly, Pinkie and her ministry is the worst thing that happened to Equestria. It damaged the hearts and souls of ponies worse than the war, the apocalypse, the betrayal of the pegasi and all the dark magic combined. Letting her die was merciful, I have no fucking clue how anybody can even approach mending a mess that big.

>>43070553
>Frankly, Pinkie and her ministry is the worst thing that happened to Equestria
But she brought us those rad drugs!

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>>43069927
I've read or tried to read FoE and around a dozen sidefics to it in the past year. They all have major problems, and the majority are probably not worth reading. But the few that did make an emotional connection were absolutely captivating, and got more invested in a piece of fiction that I've ever been.

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>>43070549
Derailing this thread, but, if any Slav anon are stopping by. Why would Fallout be better to you guys than stalker?

Fallout seems very shallow on its themes and story at large (when taking the Bethesda entries into consideration, less so with just the interplay ones) idk it just seems to be more focused on the retro future look and dark jokes than anything else. Doesnt leave much to think about rather than that.
While on the other hoof, stalker's story is next to inexistant but but it's leaves a lot more to think and theorize about, especially when it has multiple "canons"? (Kinda) That all have their own outlook, roadside picnic being different to the Tarkovski film and then the games and so on.

Idk I just feel stalker is more enjoyable because the vibe of being in bumfuck nowhere Ukraine hiding from emissions, looking for concrete antigravity bread that makes your dick grow 10x its size some far fuck will pay pennies for until I try to reach a monolith that may or may not be a stand in for faith and God (or just a monkey paw machine, or hiding a bunch of fags that live in the pod unironically) is more appealing than fallout.
Also anomalies and mutant mug fallout's creatures.
Though I'll give it to the first game dying in the badlands as a Canon ending is pretty based as a conclusion.

>>43070683
>Why would Fallout be better to you guys than stalker?
Fallout Equestria existed, Stalker Equestria didn't exist.
Also the premise of Fallout Equestria is that ponies and other species fucked their own world, while the premise of Stalker would be that ayylmaos came to Equestria and left their 5D garbage bag on it.
>the vibe of being in bumfuck nowhere Ukraine hiding from emissions
If you consider EQG to be canon then the only logical place for the Exclusion Zone would be Canterlot with its mirror to the human world.

So one setting would have whole Equestria and the rest of the pony world, and the other only a small Exclusion Zone. It's really easy to see which setting has more potential.

>>43070459
Blackjack earns every power up, every win comes at two loses. Power without the ability to save the ones she loves is a fate crueler than being weak. Yes, I know she literally becomes a black and red alicorn. Yes I know she dies three times. Yes there is hella plot armor and the story probably drags on for about 400k words more than it needs to be. But I will forever stand by the fact project horizons was the best story with the best pacing when on the msq. And the best character development. There wasn't ton of back sliding but actual growth. A suicidal person doesn't get better because of one good day. And this story shows that. It reminds me of when Deadpool saves a suicide jumper and takes them out for a day, only to leave them at a hospital after. Saying, I'm not a doctor and one good day isn't a cure. It also vastly expands on the world way more than kkat ever did.

>>43070683
>Why would Fallout be better to you guys than stalker?
Sralker is not really a creative setting IMO
with FO you have retro-futurism, criticism of statism, various groups that try to rebuild the world, etc
Stalker is just a gay Exclusion Zone with paranormal activity and various gangs of equally boring homosexuals

>>43070018
>entity known as "the Goddess"
>Impelled Metamorphosis Potion
>Pegasus Enclave
Holy slop.
>>43070299
>references to all Fallout games
I hate references to other univserses. They all prim.

>>43070810
>Various gangs of equally boring homosexuals
I kek'd

>>43070796
first, understand that I think littlepip is totally a mary sue, what I'm calling out here is saying that bj isn't one as well and I will be comparing the 2 on that basis
>Blackjack earns every power up, every win comes at two loses
backjack undergoes losses for some of the powerups she gets but a lot of things she just gets for free, I can understand the robot parts being losses but she also:
is a direct descendent of twilight with strong magic
unwittingly becomes a major member of the reapers and queen of the society (yes she didn't choose those but the drawbacks were pretty minor compared to the authority it gave her)
becomes the leader of the hoof twice (as cognitum and herself)
makes friend with littlpip and her friends
collects all magical statuettes
gets trusted with gardens of equestria by spike
gets a tv series about her
finds and befriends discord
ends up making friend with everyone she meets and doesn't kill (the town with stable 69 in it and boing being the only exception I can think of)
most of the people she kills intentionally are either crazy (including raider virus), pure evil (legate) and/or going to kill everyone around if she doesn't, the only exception I can think of are the zodiacs she kills)
the people she gets killed accidentally are usually outside of her controls or things she gets easily forgiven for
she ends up ageless and littlepip's best friend

>Power without the ability to save the ones she loves is a fate crueler than being weak
this is a cruel fate but doesn't make her not a mary sue, she still is near universally liked, survived multiple things she shouldn't have and has gotten every bit plot armor along the way
she lost p21, glory and technically lacunae, in a story 4 times as long as foe, she got 3 times littlepip's number of losses, I'd say that's pretty fair

>Yes, I know she literally becomes a black and red alicorn. Yes I know she dies three times. Yes there is hella plot armor
acknowledging those doesn't make them be less marry suey.
she survives:
getting dismembered and having her heart stop for days
having a ship fall on her twice
getting her soul pulled out of her twice
being in the direct blast radius of a megaspel twice
litterally dying (and comming back as a blank but with her soul and all her memories)

1/2

>>43070810
>various gangs of equally boring homosexuals
That's literally Fallout Equestria

>>43070796
>>43070924

in terms of plot armor and narative coincidences, she has also some ridiculous feats:
a couple of deus ex machinas, the one I remember most being in hightower
killing joke jut stopping on its own on her after a while
everything to do with folly, I know it has bad side effects but it hardly changes it from being an automatic win button every time it is used
finding everything there is to know about goldenblood, a stalion who himself values secrets as one of the most important things there is
having the ec1101 mcguffin while being able to discover all of said secrets allowing her to open and even use them
meeting rainbow dash and assisting her

>And the best character development. There wasn't ton of back sliding but actual growth
I feel like this one was well done for her companions but for blackjack herself the only thing I feel she learned was during the early chapters when she learned how fucked up 99 was but after that, she just keeps getting pushed along and is more of a character that reacts to what happens to her rather than really grows from it

> A suicidal person doesn't get better because of one good day
I agree that this part was pretty well done

with all those things, I really don't see how littlepip could be a mary sue if blackjack isn't

2/2
wtf are those capchas

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>>43070925
But I like Yuri, especially toxic Yuri.
>>43070929
This is very well thought out and objectively you are correct. If I was to actually review the story, there's no way I could avoid the fact that she is a Mary Sue. Her plot armor defies even the implausible realm of the foe world. But I consider the auto win button kind of nessary for any story like this, where the character is just so hopelessly outmatched. The writer will quickly keep finding the character in situations where they couldn't possibly win. And I don't recall folly being used sparingly because of the hyper rare nature of the amo. That being said I don't consider her Mary Sue because she is really pretty and I want to fuck her.

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>>43071000
>That being said I don't consider her Mary Sue because she is really pretty and I want to fuck her.
you win this argument my good sir

>>43069927
TRVTH NVKE.
It's just MLP autism plus Fallout autism.

>>43070683
>if any Slav anon are stopping by. Why would Fallout be better to you guys than stalker?
Russian fag here. I'm not sure i can give a direct answer, but i'll pitch in with some of my thoughts.

Stalker is cool, but it's cool in a sense of "wow, it's a cool game in a familiar setting! Looks just like the place i grew up in!". It was the first big game of that kind set in a post-soviet country, and it was very exciting. If you are American, image if all videogames for decades were set in China and then suddenly you get an AAA title set in the US for the first time.

Fo:E is different in a sense that it's a story about friendship and hope blossoming and prevailing in the Equestrian wasteland. It's a story that would be very appealing to anyone who grew up in a depressing place (like this country) which is in some sense similar to the world described in the book. You can't help but draw parallels with reality, even if subconsciously.
I think the reason why it became so big is the same why MLP itself became so popular in eastern europe - the series is something bright and hopeful, something that makes you smile. Fo:E adds danger, thrill, excitement and tragedy to the mix. Sunshine and Rainbows in the wasteland. How can you not like it?

>>43071272
Yeah it's what I guessed.
I feel I prefer stalker due to it being more "exotic" and about thinking about its themes rather than it's story, while fallout less so and I guess vice versa for slav anons.
I mean if you grew up in a krushevka or brejnevka listening to kino and maybe akwarium with the depressing atmosphere stalker really does feel like more of the same while fallout is more novel.
Pretty interesting takes to be honest.

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I asked myself, what does the Chinese fanbase think of FoE, and I stumbled across this review (translated), which I found deeply kek:
>I was profoundly, deeply moved; even though I had only begun reading halfway through, I was utterly captivated - completely unable to tear myself away. This is not merely a good book, but a wondrous one, forged from blood and tears, from light and rainbows. Its emotions are truths so profound that understanding them takes an entire lifetime. Who could ever have imagined that this wasteland - a desolation that corrodes feeling and virtue - would be granted such breathtaking redemption?
>Farewell. That is all I can say to this book. Sometimes parting makes us turn back without realizing it, makes us whisper goodbye again and again, and that farewell burns the most beautiful mark into our lives. This book is the same, isn’t it?
>We who live in a world overflowing with materialism have also grown numb because of this “wasteland,” haven’t we? And at its end, won’t there be a light that cuts through the darkness? And that light - isn’t it the word so familiar to fans?
>Friendship. At least, that is what I believe with all my heart.

>>43069927
I read through it once. Thought it was okay. Saw a physical version of it and PH. But unfortunately I was too slow to get the original, so I ended up just buying project horizons.

>>43071446
>Its emotions are truths so profound that understanding them takes an entire lifetime.
Kek. I like Fo:E and can share the sentiment to a degree, but this is a bit too much

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>>43071446
foe is pretty popular in china, I've met a bunch of people who like it at chinese cons, the funny thing is that a lot of them haven't even read it or read it in full cause it's harder to find a translated version in china, they also don't know much of the sidefics, sometimes they will know of ph and blackjack and one time I met one who liked puppysmiles from pink eyes but that's about it, pretty sad for a murkyfag such as myself

>>43071720
>a lot of them haven't even read it
If you can be a fan of foe without reading it, I can hate foe without reading it.

>>43071000
I want blackjack to wrap her legs around me and force me to sniff snorf her unkempt crotch fur. Lil pip could never.

>>43071720
>it's harder to find a translated version in china
How? China basically has its own Fimfiction and there is a translated FoE there, right? I'm pretty sure there is one even if it seems like you need an account to access it because it's an 18+ story or some bullshit.

Sans undertale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbj6eYVMTT0

>>43072124
Whoops, wrong thread

>>43072058
>it's harder to find a translated version in china
I was told that by only one source so take it with a grain of salt but the part where a lot of them haven't read much of it seems to hold true with a bunch of people I talked with
>China basically has its own Fimfiction and there is a translated FoE there, right?
yeah, it's https://fimtale.com/ but I wasn't able to find foe on it, there is pink eyes and some others though, I know china has some pretty strict laws about the kind of media that can be shared online so I don't know if I searched wrong or if it's just not here

>>43071446
If they like FoE so much, where can I shill Remains to them?

So this is the thread where we goon over Blackjack femdom right?
>>43071837
>>43071000
Oh yeah, this is the thread.

>>43072686
I want blackjack to force me to suck stalion cock to clean them after they fucked her anon. And to be her personal birth control by licking all the cum out of her cunt, no homo.

>>43072785
I will push through this cortisol spike and remain calm and resolute

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>>43070018
>transformed into a tree

>>43070018
Conversely,
Rarity split her soul into 42 pieces.
Twilight is absorbed into one of many of the consciousness of Unity.
Only AJ and Pinkie are really confirmed dead.
I like to think that once all the statuettes are brought together, Rarity would come back like a lich. Twilight gets ejected to one of the alicorns after the Maripony gets blown up and RD could be a ghoul somewhere. Just my cringe headcanon.

>>43072849
Nah rainbowdash is impossible, unless she was the maredowell. I can't remember the full arc. But dash being alive and being quiet about it? No way.

>>43072849
>Just my cringe headcanon.
???
Write a fanfic and it's as legitimate as the main story.
>>43072871
>But dash being alive and being quiet about it? No way.
If she is a ghoul she might want ponies to remember her pony image and don't taint it with her current ghoul state.

>>43072875
Thats why I could see the maredowell plot point. Helmet to cover her face. Can still do stuff while letting "rainbow dash" die a legend. If I recall it was confirmed the madedowell was real and out there doing stuff. But not who? It would be perfect.

>>43072875
shit you're right why didn't I think of that
>>43072894
PH already does RD ghoul as maredowell... except it's shit because it's PH

>>43072785
typical PH fan

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>>43072151
Here it is on Fimtale: https://fimtale.com/t/269
but I guess maybe it doesn't show up in search results if you are not logged in or doesn't come up at all due to it being an 18+ story?
I wonder if somebody has written original FoE sidefictions on there.

>>43069935
This. And Project Horizons is even better. Unironically my favorite story ever, fanfiction or otherwise.

>>43069927

In a nutshell, here is what is wrong with it:

>Plotting
kkat structured his story like an open-world video game: there's a "main" string of quests that forms the backbone of the plot, and a bunch of smaller modular side quests that can be done at any time and in any order. The player can wander in and out of the main plot at leisure; the story won't advance until he completes the next main-plot quest, and in the meantime he can do as many side quests as he wants. In a game this structure works fine, but in a long-form written story it feels meandering and illogical. Littlepip is constantly breaking away from whatever she's supposed to be doing to explore some random area or rescue some random NPC, even when she has far more pressing tasks to worry about. Most of the side quests don't add much to the overall story either; there are large portions of this story that could have been cut at no loss.

Also, even without filler the main plot is meandering and incoherent. Littlepip leaves the stable to go look for Velvet Remedy, but gives up on this almost immediately and just wanders around the wasteland for multiple chapters with no discernable objective. There's not even a glimmer of an overall goal for her until something like 10-15 chapters into the story as I recall.

>Characters
Most of the original characters in FoE are half-baked concepts that could have been good but weren't.

Littlepip: No goals, motivations, or interesting character traits. Primarily driven by a generic sense of morality that can be summed up as "wasteland bad, me angry, must fix." With nothing significant in her backstory to shape her values, her constant moralizing comes across as preachy and obnoxious. It's not a good sign if your main character is the most boring and unlikable character in your story, particularly if she's also the narrator and your story is 600,000 words long.

Velvet: Also very dull, also comes across as highly unlikable. No defining traits apart from being obsessed with Fluttershy for some stupid reason. Like Littlepip, she leaves the stable for a dumb non-reason, wanders around for awhile, then joins up with Littlepip's group because she has nothing better to do.

Calamity: His backstory as a disgraced Enclave officer, whose father and brother are themselves high-ranking officers, could have provided some interesting storylines. Unfortunately none of it was ever fully developed, and what little development exists is awkwardly mashed in towards the end of the story.

Steelhooves: Has probably the most fleshed-out backstory of any of the main characters, but contributes very little to the main story. If Steelhooves is doing anything interesting, it means you're probably in a memory orb.

The Zebra: I don't remember a single goddamn thing about this character, not even her name. That is how little of an impression she made on me.

>>43073133
>Concept/Setting/Lore
Despite the amount of credit people give FoE for having an original, interesting and well-thought-out world, most of the setting is just loosely ponified stuff from the actual Fallout games, specifically Fallout 3. Kkat came up with very few original ideas. All he really deserves credit for is taking two extremely popular things at the height of their popularity and mashing them together. Just about anyone familiar with both franchises could have produced a story as good or better, kkat just happened to do it first.

>Mary Sue Protagonist
Littlepip is the worst kind of Mary Sue. She begins the story as a completely dull nobody with no skills beyond basic levitation and Pip-buck repair. By chapter 7 she's throwing boxcars at alicorns. Her levitation is the most ridiculously overpowered ability I've ever seen in a work of fiction. There are basically no limits on what she can lift or what she can do.

Despite having no firearms training she's an expert marksman, mostly due to her pip-buck's auto-aiming feature, a power that conveniently enough nobody else in the wasteland seems to have. She is constantly getting hit with stuff that logically ought to kill her, yet somehow she not only survives but triumphs. Not only does she triumph, but 9 times out of 10 she triumphs in the most absurd way possible.

Steelhooves is a 200 year old Steel Ranger, and Calamity was an officer in the Enclave. Both of them have been in the wasteland far longer than she has, and know far more about weapons and combat than she does. Yet somehow, armed with nothing but basic unicorn telekinesis whatever meager combat skills she picked up while exploring the wasteland for a couple of weeks, Littlepip constantly outshines her friends and is the undisputed hero in nearly every situation. Despite having zero redeeming character traits, she is hailed as a hero wherever she goes, and is loved by everyone she meets. The universe just bends around this character. I have never in my life hated a fictional horse as much as I hated Littlepip in Fallout Equestria.

>Party Dynamics
Ties into my last point. If the author had any sense, he would have leaned into the RPG dynamics of his setting and created a competent, durable party. Each member should have strengths and weaknesses. Overall, they should be stronger together than any of them are on their own, and they should solve challenges by working as a team, with each member focusing on what they do well. Logically, it should be Calamity and Steelhooves doing most of the fighting and heroics. Velvet should be healing and casting protection spells, Littlepip should be picking locks and fixing mechanisms, and the zebra should do... whatever the hell the zebra was good at. Instead, the whole story is just Littlepip being an ultra-badass while everyone around her applauds.

I could go on, but it's late.

Final verdict: objectively speaking, this fic sucked.

>>43072849
>all the statuettes
He wrote in his character collecting the bobbleheads?! This really is a Fallout 3 playthrough with "PONY" plastered all over it.

The loudest voices against FoE are usually Fimfiction spergs seething because it's popular while their shitty HiE story isn't

>>43073199
Obsessed.

>>43073201
The truth hurts, don't it?

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>>43073199
Snap back to reality.

>>43073286
Literally who are all of those people on your pic?

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>>43073134
>she is hailed as a hero wherever she goes, and is loved by everyone
I mean, it's a low bar out there. If you don't disassemble or enslave ponies for fun and profit, everybody thinks you're alright.
>With nothing significant in her backstory to shape her values
Is the universal moral law within us suddenly inadequate?

>>43072960
Shit did I forget an entire plot point and subconsciously re create it? Damn. Well tbf ph is so fucking long. No one even ever draws fan art of boo since she doesn't happen until way later. I can't even recall what happens to her now

>>43070047
Nta but what you need is accountability. Kkat should have made it more inaccessible to kids.

>>43073688
Shut the fuck up retard flaggot. The internet is not a babysitter.

>>43073688
Why + do you have mental retardation?

>>43073732
That's literally my point. Everyone knows parents will not monitor their children on the internet. The masses refuse to self govern so anyone who isn't a retard has a responsibility to do it for them. In this case the book is something that appeals to kids even though it's harmful to kids so kids shouldn't have access to it. Kids shouldn't know about it. Kids having their innocence is the natural and right way of things, and it always has been. You jaded homosexuals allow popular media to twist not only your sense of right and wrong but also history. You tell yourselves it's not a big deal simply because you're a manchild who gets rewarded by fake internet points when you make excuses in defense of inaccountability and convenience. It's not as if you don't know it's wrong deep down, you just allow yourselves to be tricked. And more times than not, you faggots read the story at too young an age yourself and you refuse to grow up and so you feel the need to defend yourself. Because it's not your fault, but you've always been alone and have always been the only one to have your own back so it feels like your fault. And you don't want to betray yourselves. You think the way things were for you is the way things will always be. And if you don't change then it won't change until we're all dead and gone. Your childhood and your future have been stolen from you, and you will NEVER get either back. The ONLY dignified path for you left is to dedicate what's left of your pathetic life to trying to make a better world for the next generations. Because the way you're going now, you're still going to be alone reminiscing about "the fandom" thirty years from now. What do you actually think your endgame is here by defending random brony authors? For whatever glorious "fan content renaissance" future you envision in your head(that has been placed there by the media), just ask yourself this: is this real life, or am I being entertained? That's a question you should always ask yourself.
>>43073309
Ignore that guy. It's an engagement bot. Everything it said is objectively untrue but it's written in such a way to convince you it's just simply a reasonable dude who hasn't read the book in a while. It just wants you to correct it.

>>43073816
It can desensitize children and rob them of their innocence. Kids should be having fun and playing games. Forming little crushes, trying to grow up into cooler people. They definitely shouldn't be thinking about shit like rape and the fucking ethics of killing rapists and cannibals and gay animal sex and blood and gore. They ought to be thinking about shit like adventure and heroics, which is a part of FoE but hardly the only part. Iirc this book describes in vivid detail exactly how it feels to take a life, and to become a sadistic murderous vigilante, including actual good justification for it. It's extremely immersive too. With how well it's written this type of content is the last thing a kid should be reading. Which also makes me wonder if everything in the book was even necessary to tell it's story. Bit that's besides the point.

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>>43073919
How do you propose this should be done? The only way to lock content exclusively to view for adults would be to somehow identify yourself. Hell no. But fitting for a Glimfag to be in support of that, lel. Children shouldn't be on the internet to begin with and teenagers can handle FoE just fine.

>>43069927
This, it's just kkat's fallout 3 playthrough with elements of 1 and 2 not integrated gracefully

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>>43073892
I am not going to censor myself because some child may or may not see the things I post online. Websites should not be censored because parents don't want to be parents.
My childhood was not stolen from me. I am not a victim because I played Pico's School in the early 2000s. My childhood was not stolen from me because I played Silent Hill as a 6 year old. I was not traumatized by the horror movies I watched as a lad. I will never advocate for censorship, even if it's for something I disagree with or something I personally don't like.
I don't defy censorship for glory, for an agenda, or a potential fandom resurgence. I defy censorship because it is the right thing to do.

Guys, do not engage with the troll. He's been baiting in the Fo:E thread for weeks. It's pointless to argue with him

>>43073892
>Glimmernigger is an authoritarian commie
Shocking.

>>43073946
>how do you propose this be done
Make them pay, unironically. Kids don't have money. I'm not in support of having to identify yourself to the government obviously, but if there's no way to prove you're an adult to Kkat without the government getting involved maybe Kkat should have just not published it and only shared it with friends. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices for what is right. If you choose to make something like this starring the colorful cartoon horses for babies and publish it on websites like fimfic you can't just expect kids to ignore it. It's a thing that everyone on the internet knows about and it's cute as hell and they make fucking plushies of it for pete's sake! Just look at the FoE general right now, it's almost entirely kid friendly art of Blackjack being cute as fuck. Even though her story is all about pedophilia and self harm and shit. Kids are going to see that fucking art on other sites and want to look into it, and the BJfags are literally pedophiles or pedo apologists like BJ herself is, so they will indeed be ecstatic that kids want to read the book and will help them find it. In the previous FoE thread they literally told me as much and they thought it was funny. This is one of the most egregious instances of lack of accountability I have ever seen. Now I don't think Kkat is like that, but she's certainly partly responsible and she could try to do something about it. Or she could have been more mindful in the first place, which is really all I ask. Btw is Kkat a girl? Idk who Kkat actually is.
>hell no
Good argument. I bet you usually get reddit gold for that.
>Children shouldn't be on the internet to begin with
But they are and Kkat knew that.
>teenagers can handle FoE just fine.
Respectfully disagree. It has actual porn in it(in the fimfic version) for crying out loud, how are you trying to justify this? And the porn is one of the tamer sections of this book.

>>43073984
Fuck off, I want to actually have a conversation about this. I stopped responding in the FoE thread because no one was willing to have a discussion about it. Some of you baited me though by pretending you did, and then calling me a faggot and leaving midway through the conversation.

>>43073994
>>43073999
My god, you are a fucking faggot. Holy shit.
Your parents clearly never let you make your own decisions and planned your entire childhood for you
https://youtube.com/watch?v=o7MlC_Qrmmc&pp=ygURbW90aGVyIHBpbmsgZmxveWTSBwkJvgoBhyohjO8%3D

>>43073965
To make your allegory more accurate, it would be like if the steak was made to look like one of the baby's favorite toys and placed directly in front of it without any supervision. I understand not wanting censorship but there's always a balance. There is no absolute truth in the universe so saying nothing should ever be censored is actually quite extreme and objectively wrong. There's clearly a difference between limiting who can read FoE and doing like 1984 type shit. And I'm sure you know this but you're too scared to advocate for small amounts of censorship out of fear that 1984 is where we'll end up. Well going the other way(which is what blackrock wants) is just as bad, if not worse. That's why the middle road is so important for so many different things. These corporations that are in power unironically want kids hooked on porn. They want you to fight for their right to do so for them. That's what the whole payment processor fiasco was about, and why the mainstream media(youtubers) were all against visa or whichever bank they had play the role of villain. I don't remember at this point, it's always the same shit. But ask yourself, by pretending to be some libertarian freedom fighter are you actually fighting for freedom irl, or are you being entertained?
>My childhood was not stolen from me. I am not a victim
What can I say but cope? I unironically think you're just straight up lying to me.

>>43074011
Again you're getting angry like you were in the FoE general. Why does it offend you that I want to have actual discourse about this? And you're wrong btw.

>>43074020
>without any supervision
And who's fault is that? Hint: it's not the strangers on the internet.
Children aren't buying computers and tablets. Children aren't paying for internet. The responsibility to curate content falls solely on the shoulders of the parents.
>I unironically think you're just straight up lying to me.
My life was not worse off because I was scared of Silent Hill as a child. I'm not going to blame Konami for my parents letting me play an m rated game, even if I was hypothetically upset about it.
Final (you). I am done engaging with your mental retardation you vantablack nigger.

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>>43073994
>Make them pay, unironically.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but there is something like IP laws. FoE has the characters Twilight Sparkle (tm), Pinkie Pie (tm), Rainbow Dash (tm) etc. in them so that wouldn't slide. It's le illegal. You should rather advocate for laws to be set in place that hinder children from accessing the web or internet-enabled devices than for laws that would fuck everybody over with censorship.
>In the previous FoE thread they literally told me as much and they thought it was funny
It literally is.
>Respectfully disagree.
Respectfully calling you a faggot. You can't handle reading words about rape as a teenager?
>Btw is Kkat a girl?
Yeah, she's a lesbian midget IRL and Littlepip was her self-insert.

>>43074031
>"We have to impliment Minitru on mlp and the internet because the proles cannot selfgovern and some children may see fallout: equestria!"
I understand you're a glimmernigger ans so you are severely microcephalic, so I'll try to explain
Why do you think the proles cannot govern themselves and there own families? Is it really because they are an inferior species or is it because power-hungry people like you encourage the average person to offload the responsiblity of regulating what information they consume to an expanding state?
Explain how fallout equestria stunted a generation. What studies are you citing? What mass outrage of parents are you quoting?
The only discourse you are interested in is a censorship state where people cannot be trusted with too much and "malquoted" information because some nebulous "children" may be harmed. You are quite literally demanding a Ministry of Truth because "PLZ THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!1!"
You're the most useful of idiots

>43074020
>it would be like if the steak was made to look like one of the baby's favorite toys and placed directly in front of it without any supervision.
Why is this an issue? What the fuck is the point of this “analogy”? Steaks are fucking tasty, if baby’s hungry I’ll cut the steak up into chunks and feed it, or puree it if it doesn’t have any teeth. What, you’re going to tell me that you support everyone eating ze bugs too?
This ultimately is a parental responsibility, it’s not my responsibility to prevent the CHANCE of a child stumbling on my content, if a child stumbles on something they’re not supposed to see, you (as a user of the internet) cannot do anything and should not do anything about it. Their parents, caregivers, family, etc are the ones responsible for their upbringing. If their parents are shit, we have CPS for a reason to put them into government care or into foster homes.
>but you gotta let censorship happen!
Censorship only serves to harm people, there is no point in doing it, if you want to combat the threat of “misinformation” then you fund high quality education to let people form their own conclusions, not censor opposing ideas or content. Modern science is already poisoned by unfavorable publications being ignored or not questioned, and opposing views being shut down instead of allowed to elaborate on what they think, grab supporting evidence, why their theories work, etc.

>>43074043
>Why is this an issue?
That wouldn't be vegetarian, so I'd agree on that.

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Please, for the love of ALL THAT IS HOLY, do we finallly have a LittlePip modelswap for Fallout 3/NV?

I've been dying to experience FO3 and/or NV but I refuse to do so unless I can run around as LittlePip due to autistic reasons.

>>43074032
>The responsibility to curate content falls solely on the shoulders of the parents
No, that's how it SHOULD work. But we don't live in fantasy land and we all know parents won't all take responsibility. For those of us who aren't retarded we have a responsibility to pick up the slack for those who are. It would be anarchy otherwise. And kids don't deserve to suffer just because everyone who could have protected their innocence all unanimously agreed that it was somebody else's job.
>My life was not worse off because I was scared of Silent Hill as a child
Not even the same thing. FoE puts you in the mind of a serial killer who masturbates and does drugs, in such a way that it feels like you're actually there thinking those thoughts and feeling those emotions. And it's justified quite well in the book. Maybe it has something to do with your reading level or something, idk what your time with the book was like but if you really think a shity ps2 game is comparable to FoE you clearly didn't get the full experience. Not even to jack off FoE or anything but seriously, it's actually an experience. Silent Hill strikes me as basically like a chucky movie but Japanese. I haven't played it but I can still tell you're being disingenuous.
>final (you)
You seem like you really care about this, yet you give up after literally two posts. You're demonstrating exactly what I'm calling people out on, lack of responsibility and laziness. You're quite comfortable giving in. Go ahead and quit. Lose this argument. I'm sure you're not a loser in real life and that whatever you're fucking off to go do will actually make changes in this world. I mean you can't do the easiest fucking shit in the world which is debating but I'm sure you never give up on anything harder than that. Seriously dude I'm not trying to be mean, but your actions(or lack thereof) suck dick.

>I didn't play the game but I'll pretend I know what I'm taking about
Yup. It's retarded.

>>43074071
>But we don't live in fantasy land and we all know parents won't all take responsibility.
Again, why is that? Parents had no trouble with that til about the 90s

>Not even the same thing. FoE puts you in the mind of a serial killer who masturbates and does drugs, in such a way that it feels like you're actually there thinking those thoughts and feeling those emotions
So a fucking story? You seem to be awfully insistent on censoring anything that you don't like-I mean, hurt these nebulous children. You have not presented a single piece of evidence that this problem exists. Show us the fucking studies you're citing.
You are clearly simply looking to ban all ideas that you don't like. Feel free to fuck off to North Korea then, you'll love it there

>>43074083
Stop arguing with the flaggot. It's clearly mentally retarded. You are wasting your time.

>>43074091
True, though a loud retard needs to be beaten with a belt in full view so other retards don't get any ideas

>>43074036
>not sure if you noticed but there is something called ip laws
Fuck I legit forgot for a second. Exactly why the government shouldn't be involved. And ip laws are fucking evil. Now it's literally illegal to tell our stories because ip only covers the most surface level shit like what characters look like or what their powers are. Since corporations only want to subvert, and they "own" all our myths, they get to make the most backwards shit ever and call it the official [thing]. And creators play along with this. Why do you think so many of them want to "put their own spin" on [thing]? Because they actually want to tell an original story that's about something entirely different, but that story just so happens to contain some superficial aspect of [thing]. The Fallout amazon show is a perfect example of this. It has nothing in common with Fallout and even stands for the exact opposite ideals that Fallout does, yet the only way these faggots were allowed to use the concept of ghouls or vaults is by becoming the new official "Fallout". It's like a symbiotic relationship between these Hollywood "creatives" and corporations. Their evil actions keep encouraging each other's evil actions in order to sustain this system.
>you should rather advocate for laws that hinder children from accessing the internet
True but personal accountability also matters. You can't expect the government to babysit us. Cause they're evil.

>>43074099
>And ip laws are fucking evil.
You only say that because you are a retard that can't create anything original and instead wants to get people to pay for access to your MLP ficlets. If somebody can't make a post-apocalyptic radiated wasteland without blatantly ripping off Fallout, then they don't deserve to make a profit off that.

>>43074036
>You can't handle reading words about rape as a teenager?
Not in such vivid, immersive detail. And it's alot more than a few instances of rape. The whole book is like nonstop desensitization bro.
>Yeah, she's a lesbian midget IRL and Littlepip was her self-insert.
Kek you got me. Do we actually not know who Kkat is still?
>>43074042
>you encourage the average person to offload the responsiblity of regulating what information they consume to an expanding state?
First of all please don't say consoom. It's gross. Second of all, I want the people, specifically the author in this case, to pick up the slack and take responsibility for their neighbor. I don't want the state to have anything to do with it, as I've said.
>Explain how fallout equestria stunted a generation.
>What studies are you citing?
It didn't but it did take innocence away from a few kids at least. And it's part of a bigger problem thar did stunt an entire generation, which is a system that's hypercomfortable with zero accountability. I got indoctrinated into the "fandom" as a kid and it made me believe in so much nonsense that destroyed any chance I had. How many of you people complain on here daily about all you missed out on and are still missing out on? How many times did someone make a thread asking why bronies suck at making friends? You think your upbringing had nothing to do with it? You don't need studies, you need pattern recognition. Asking for studies is a trap. Who decides which studies the people have access to?
>The only discourse you are interested in is a censorship state
Nigga I literally said earlier the only thing I want is for people like Kkat to think before publishing. I'm not even saying it absolutely should be censored, I just think we need to talk about it. No one has given me any reasons yet why it being so readily available to any and all is a good thing btw. You all just hate censorship, which isn't actually what I'm talking about. That was a word that you guys want to use when I just mean being careful. Can you tell me the pros of your side instead of just the cons of the side I'm currently advocating for?
>you're the most useful of idiots
You say that while doing exactly what the media asked you to do during the payment processor scandal. I'm just saying.

>>43074043
>Steaks are fucking tasty, if baby’s hungry I’ll cut the steak up into chunks and feed it, or puree it if it doesn’t have any teeth
I said without supervision. Why are you pretending to be retarded? It's not safe for baby to eat it without you there to make it safe.
>This ultimately is a parental responsibility
You keep using "is" instead of "should be". Who do you think you're fooling? You expect anyone to believe that every parent in the world does their job?
>but I don't care if kids get hurt
We only have one future, you better give a shit about it.
>you cannot do anything about it when kids see things they shouldn't
You can take preventative measures to make it less likely to occur to begin with.
>you shouldn't do anything about it
Why? To teach the parents a lesson? To fucking own them at the expense of their kids who did nothing wrong?
>we have cps
Now who wants the government to babysit the people? And you know cps will not do their job anyway. You're still just trying to avoid accountability.
>fund high quality education to let people form their own conclusions, not censor opposing ideas or content
You're asking me to use the money I don't have to babysit the people for you because you don't want to do it. But in this situation the only non-evil people with the power to do anything are the parents and the author, and the author knows the parents will not. Therefore it's the author's responsibility. Remember what Uncle Ben taught you man.

>>43073892
>Ignore that guy. It's an engagement bot. Everything it said is objectively untrue but it's written in such a way to convince you it's just simply a reasonable dude who hasn't read the book in a while. It just wants you to correct it.
First, I'm not an "engagement bot." Give me any Turing or Voight-Kampff test you want, I assure you I can pass it. Second, everything I wrote is my own opinion. You don't have to agree with me, and you are free to argue against me if you like, or just call me a faggot and walk away if you like. Either way, I'm at least trying to make points about the fanfic, which is the point of the thread. I'm not the one derailing with long schizo rants about an unrelated subject.
Third:
>Everything it said is objectively untrue
Proofs?

>>43073309
>Is the universal moral law within us suddenly inadequate?
In fiction? If you're trying to create a compelling, emotionally relatable main character? Yes, it is inadequate. Characters need motivations and core values. Particularly if you're trying to take your Level 0 PipBuck technician and transform her into a Level 99 World Savior over the course of a few weeks, and you want the person reading your book to take you seriously.

Another point: if this "universal moral law" is so universal, then why is Littlepip seemingly the only character in the story who A) has a conscience, and B) is willing to do anything about it? The whole premise is that the world has just been stagnating in post-apocalyptic misery for 200 years, and in all that time nobody has ever attempted to rebuild any serious vestige of civilization, overthrow the slavers/Red Eye, or do anything about the psychotic raiders who run feral around the wasteland murdering ponies for no reason. Then along comes this Level 0 PipBuck technician, with no skills, training or experience, who just wanders out of the stable one day, says "this sucks, I'm going to fix it," and somehow does. It's completely idiotic.

>43074155
>want the people, specifically the author in this case, to pick up the slack and take responsibility for their neighbor. I don't want the state to have anything to do with it, as I've said.
You literally are advocating that access to the internet needs to be gatekept and the information sanitized of wrongthink.

>It didn't but it did take innocence away from a few kids at least. And it's part of a bigger problem thar did stunt an entire generation
1. You contradict yourself here. "It didn't stunt a generation but it did take innocence away from a few kids at least. And it's part of a bigger problem thar did stunt an entire generation."
So it didn't stunt a generation, but it did?
2. You have not cited ANY sources for this supposed mass mental trauma, so as far as anyone is concerned, you're just pulling shit from your ass to justify a powergrab. I'll say again. CITE. YOUR. FUCKING. SOURCES.

>I got indoctrinated into the "fandom" as a kid and it made me believe in so much nonsense that destroyed any chance I had
So you were retarded even back then? You do not get indoctrinated into a fandom, it is not an ideology. You took the things you heard at face value and wholeheartedly believed them, which you still do in this case, authoritarianism.
You are actually right when you say "system that's hypercomfortable with zero accountability" because YOU are the one who will not take accountability for believing whatever bullshit flies your way because you lack critical thinking.
>"It is the mark of an educated man to entertain an idea without accepting it." Aristotle.

You are in effect, arguing for a system that ENCOURAGES "people" like you to proliforate because the state shields everyone from outside ideas. Children cannot learn critical thinking or discernment if they are never challenged or made to think between differing ideas. YOU are the system that promotes no accountability on an individual level

>All the tonic effects of murdering Desdemona and being murdered by Othello, without any of the inconveniences."
>"But I like the inconveniences."
>"We don't," said the Controller. "We prefer to do things comfortably."
>"But I don't want comfort. I want God, I want poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness. I want sin."
>"In fact," said Mustapha Mond, "you're claiming the right to be unhappy."
>All right then," said the Savage defiantly, "I'm claiming the right to be unhappy."

>>43074213
>Children cannot learn critical thinking or discernment if they are never challenged or made to think between differing ideas
They absolutely can. This is patently wrong. There are countless children of trump voters out there who spent their entire life in the echo chamber, and came out smarter and more critical than their parents as they clawed out of the hole themselves. You are a real idiot.

>>43074155
>I got indoctrinated into the "fandom" as a kid and it made me believe in so much nonsense that destroyed any chance I had
And instead of being mad at your parents for giving you unrestricted internet access at birth, you're mad at bronies for grooming your shota self 10 years ago?
>No one has given me any reasons yet why it being so readily available to any and all is a good thing btw
Because nobody wants to give out their identity to read a fucking fanfic and monetising it is illegal so FoE wouldn't exist if it came to you. If Kkat only shared it with her friends, there would be no culture surrounding it. And me and most people wouldn't have been able to read it, and thus the total enjoyment of life would have decreased globally. Plus, somebody would have killed himself it it weren't for Project Horizons and Blackjack, lol.

You writing stuff like:
FoE puts you in the mind of a serial killer who masturbates and does drugs, in such a way that it feels like you're actually there thinking those thoughts and feeling those emotions.
...is the funniest thing ever. I'm going to mail you mare hypno memory orbs next time you act like a faggot since you can get this easily manipulated and immersed.

>>43074082
Sorry maybe I'm wrong. Idk. But that's obviously why I let you know I didn't play it.
>>43074083
>Again, why is that? Parents had no trouble with that til about the 90s
Because they're like you. Apathetic. Their whole lives they've been told nothing matters and they don't have to do anything they don't want to do. Nowadays they're told it's a fucking crime to be made "uncomfortable" so they think they're a victim when asked to actually give a shit. And this is used by blackrock employed therapists to pull apart families.
>So a fucking story? You seem to be awfully insistent on censoring anything that you don't like
But I love FoE.
>You have not presented a single piece of evidence that this problem exists
I don't have to. Pay attention to real life please. Or even just to this board. Fucking disingenuous motherfucker, you know exactly how asocial and jaded everyone is. You know their suffering. What you should be asking me for is proof that FoE plays a part in it. Which I don't have but I have seen it happen. I just didn't document it. Either way it's impossible not to come to the logical conclusion that FoE is a part of the system given everything I have talked about thus far relating to how it appeals to kids. And the fact that it's part of the fandom which kids have been known to use as a substitute for real friends.

Daily reminder that glowniggers are pushing for the total internet control and age verification right now.
99% chance you are arguing with a glownigger now.

>>43074218
So if you censor the entire internet to make it MAGA approved with no other differing information, then 20 years later, most children will instantly snap out of it and become wise?
Most trumptards come from the generational rejection of the previous ideology, in this case progressivism, and turned into the most gullible retards ever. Critical thinking is a skill. Some people are naturally better at it than others, but it still requires learning otherwise you just get reactionaries.

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My child downloaded a copy of Fallout 3 and blew up Megaton. How could Todd Howard do this to my child?

>>43074151
>If somebody can't make a post-apocalyptic radiated wasteland without blatantly ripping off Fallout, then they don't deserve to make a profit off that.
This is a whole other discussion. I wasn't talking about creators wanting to make a profit. You can't even make a tv show or video game without being backed by big bucks, and those who have the big bucks won't give them out unless you can make them a profit. That's why it's illegal to tell our stories in this system. Because it's illegal to make a profit using an "ip" owned by a company, and having potential to make a profit is the only way to make [thing], unless [thing] is just a written story or comic. I don't want Kkat to make a profit off of FoE nor do I want to make a profit off of any story. I literally only suggested paying for it so that kids can't view it. Not everything is some ulterior motive. But anyway, a lot of our stories aren't written. Mlp is an animated story. If you wanted to create a new animated mlp show faithful to Faust's vision you wouldn't be able to. But the guy who wants to make everything in mlp about racism and faggotry and satanism? Hasbro would put him in charge of all things mlp for a decade.

>43074223
>Because they're like you. Apathetic
You are the apathetic one here because you want the state to do your job of raising your kid for you. When I have kids, i'm actually going to fucking parent them and make sure they don't end up like you. You nor I have the right to take the liberties of others because we don't want to take responsibility.

>"I don't have to. Pay attention to real life please"
Yes you do, because real life has this thing called EVIDENCE in which sensible decisions are made, not "It made me feel bad so the creator should be publically executed." You are the gullible, weak, power hungry fucker that the Brave New World is constructed and maintained. You are mentally weak and so everyone else must be because it makes you feel bad.

>>43073892
>Everyone knows parents will not monitor their children on the internet.
And they shouldn't. Few things are more damaging for an impressionable person's soul than observability, that's how you mass produce buckbroken bitches. Even adults need privacy to stay sane.
>The masses refuse to self govern
No we ain't. In part because we were thinking hard about ethics of fighting rapists and grew up cool.
>>43073999
I sympathize, but you seriously should make a better case. Less personal attacks directed at made up opponents, more figuring out what other people mean. Less "debating" (ew), more precise definitions and working together. For starters, I don't think I'm familiar with the concept of innocence as you understand it. The words are all familiar, but the structure they describe doesn't ring any bells, other than some superficial similarity with the old purity culture psyop. Having fun, playing games, falling in love, trying to be better? Adults do it all the time, you don't need some nebulous yet fragile quality as an entry ticket to this flying circus.
That being said, there are real threats in the internet. Mass surveillance, authomatic personalized propaganda, this kind of stuff. If you want to protect vulnerable people of any ages from that, or from some other internet threat that I'm regrettably myopic to, there's one way that is historically known to work in such cases: make them afraid of it. Your children go anywhere they want, but most of them don't get eaten by wolves in the dark forest nearby because they are afraid of your scary stories about this dark forest. To this end, the internet needs more, not less, spooky scary shock content. Unless you know how to destroy mass surveillance and bot farms once and for all, sanitizing the internet and making it more welcoming for people who can't or don't want to risk their sanity would only make matters worse.
>>43074099
>stands for the exact opposite ideals that Fallout does
Can you elaborate? I secondscreened the first season and I have no idea what are you talking about.
>>43074155
>How many times did someone make a thread asking why bronies suck at making friends?
You know it's a meme, right? There is, indeed, some overrepresentation of autists in internet fandoms, but most of us adults are well adjusted and whatsnot.
>You don't need studies, you need pattern recognition.
Oh no, not this bullshit again.
One of my neighbors IRL is afraid of junkies. Every time anything happens, any old device breaks, every time there are any strange noises at night or anything, her mind jumps to the same conclusion: junkies are at it again. She's not insane or stupid by any measure, I would trust her with my life, but that's how her pattern recognition works. I know it's bad form to go armchair psychologising in the same post where I bitch at you for attacking people you know nothing about, but come the fuck on. Pattern recognition is full of bugs, that's why we invent methods to begin with.

>dude just make [thing] cost money so kids can't access it.
Damn I guess all the squeaking children I met on Call of Duty were actually criminals stealing video games. What a shame.

>>43074212
>why is Littlepip seemingly the only character in the story who A) has a conscience, and B) is willing to do anything about it? The whole premise is that the world has just been stagnating in post-apocalyptic misery for 200 years, and in all that time nobody has ever attempted to rebuild any serious vestige of civilization, overthrow the slavers/Red Eye, or do anything about the psychotic raiders who run feral around the wasteland murdering ponies for no reason.
One of the major themes of the fic, if not its main theme, is the idea of heroes who appear, try to fix something and promptly get killed or broken by hardships. Red Eye was one of them.

>>43074212
>First, I'm not an "engagement bot."
I would say I'm sorry, but by pretending like there's no such thing as an engagement bot proves you are obe of them or a shill, which is the same thing.
>Either way, I'm at least trying to make points about the fanfic, which is the point of the thread
Op literally just says it's shit. How do you know what the point is? And I am making points about it.
>>43074213
>and the information sanitized
I never said this. I only wondered whether the story would work if it was less explicit. I can't fucking wonder things?
>wrongthink
That's a crazy way to say kids losing their innocence. C'mon now be serious. And you're mad at me for "thinking wrong" in this same sentence bro.
>so it didn't stunt a generation
Not on it's lonesome. And it wouldn't have even played a part if Kkat had published it in a more exclusive manner.
>cite your sources
We've been over this. Why won't you address what I said about that?
>so you were retarded back then
That's nice.
>it's not an ideology
And antifa's not a group. Don't you see the fallacy here? Go to any discord, or eqd, or twitter and they do indeed have indoctrination methods. If you say something the hivemind doesn't agree with you'll be banned and theyll act like you're the only one who thinks such things, as if they didn't just ban everyone else who agrees with you already. They do this knowing that lonely kids who desperately need attention and companionship will come back with alt accounts and fall in line. Then they start doing shit unrelated to mlp like talking about how americans were so evil or how christians so bad. They're toxic and gang up on anyone who wants to be kind, so the only way to avoid that is to join the gang. It's different here, but you can't exactly make friends here anyway.
>authoritarianism
No, I just want some rules.
>YOU are the one who will not take accountability for believing whatever bullshit flies your way
You're saying this thinking that I'm some alt right grifter but I'm not. Why do you think that's what I am?

>43074298
Christ, your complete lack of selfawareness is absolutely astounding

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This nigger should be paying me to post in my thread. A child might read his retarded posts and get brain damage.

>>43074213
>You are in effect, arguing for a system that ENCOURAGES "people" like you to proliforate because the state shields everyone from outside ideas
First of all I said I don't want the state to have anything to do with this. Second of all do you not understand the concept of like amounts? Like what I'm talking about right now is maybe 13% right wing and you're acting like I'm going all the way Hitler. Is it because I'm a Glimmychad? Because that doesn't mean I'm Stalin.
>Children cannot learn critical thinking or discernment if they are never challenged or made to think between differing ideas.
Agreed. This discussion isn't about that. Porn and other such harmful things aren't "differing ideas". And even if they were, that's still not something they need to think about at such a young age. There are age appropriate ways to challenge them.
>YOU are the system that promotes no accountability on an individual level
I'm just being real. Sure it's not ideal for retarded parents to get away with it but the only other option is to let the kids suffer. I just think that instead of saying "fuck da kids" everyone should take responsibility, even if their peers don't. And again, I want the state to have nothing to do with this.
>All right then," said the Savage defiantly, "I'm claiming the right to be unhappy."
Again dude learn degrees, or levels or amounts or whatever the fuck. I can't see why you're struggling with this concept. Clearly I want freedom just as much as the next chad, but some rules are required otherwise there is no freedom. No rules means everyone is guaranteed to be unhappy, not just a chance. You have to hold yourself accountable. And you can't be a fucking retard and assume everyone else will do the same. You're like 100% libertarian dude and it's kind of crazy.

My god, it's like a jew who somehow fully believes the bullshit he's peddling. It's like an evangelical

>>43074351
>everyone should take responsibility
So when are you going to take responsibility and stop using harmful, non child friendly words like "fucking" or "retarded"? There might be kids here reading your posts.

>>43074298
>pretending like there's no such thing as an engagement bot proves you are obe of them or a shill, which is the same thing.
When did I pretend that there's no such thing as an engagement bot? All I did was clarify that I'm not one. Accusing someone of being a bot or a shill is what retards do when they have no argument to make but desperately want to save face. For my part, my biggest complaint about this site these days is not the presence of bots, but that the bots tend to be better conversationalists than many of the human users.

>Op literally just says it's shit. How do you know what the point is?
OP is effectively taking the position that Fallout Equestria is a bad fanfic, with an implied provocation to try and prove him wrong. Basically the same thing Charlie Kirk did which is kind of ironic considering that Littlepip is the sort of character who would rather shoot a guy in the neck than try to argue with him. Meanwhile, you're clogging up the thread with an unrelated side conversation about internet censorship. You think that Fallout Equestria somehow spoiled your childhood and kkat should have self-censored instead of publishing it. Fine; you're entitled to your point of view. However, it has nothing to do with the current discussion about the quality of the fic itself. If you would rather blabber about a topic unrelated to the current topic, start a separate thread.

>>43074288
Okay. Then why didn't Littlepip get killed or broken by it? Why is she the only pony to appear in 200 years who is morally grounded enough to stand up to forces that broke the minds of all other ponies? What qualifications for heroism does she have other than plot armor?

>>43074372
>What qualifications for heroism does she have other than plot armor?
She is the Chosen One. That's completely in the spirit of Fallout games where a "literally who" can kill entire factions and decide the political landscape for the coming decades.

>>43074222
>And instead of being mad at your parents for giving you unrestricted internet access at birth, you're mad at bronies for grooming your shota self 10 years ago?
I can't say they both did wrong? And if I did have to choose just one to be mad at why wouldn't I choose the pedophiles?
>Because nobody wants to give out their identity to read a fucking fanfic
You don't have to necessarily. If it's not the gov't making sure you're an adult. If you had to show your face or something to Kkat or associaye they're not going to screenshot it and then later find out who you are. Oh but that idea requires the bare minimum of effort so it's not doable right? Or with the money thing, I'm pretty sure you can pay without any agency knowing what it's for. But anyway this isn't a positive thing about your side.
>culture surrounding it
This actually is. I appreciate that. And I don't disagree with it.
>And me and most people wouldn't have been able to read it, and thus the total enjoyment of life would have decreased globally
Are you sure about that math? And don't forget to take into account all the grooming and whatnot from the non FoE bronies.
>Plus, somebody would have killed himself it it weren't for Project Horizons and Blackjack, lol.
Really?
>...is the funniest thing ever. I'm going to mail you mare hypno memory orbs next time you act like a faggot since you can get this easily manipulated and immersed.
I'm sorry I'm a good reader and can enjoy it on a deeper level than you can. Literally how is that a bad thing?

>>43074375
All this does is prove that FoE is literally just the author's imaginary lets-play of an imaginary Fallout 3 pony mod. You haven't proven that Littlepip is a good character or that FoE is a good story, you've simply exposed the weak narrative structure of the games. However, a game can get away with having a weak narrative structure, because the entertainment value comes from interactivity first and story second. A literally-who game protagonist is able to topple systems and change global politics not because it makes sense, but because the game would be boring if you couldn't. Also, having a blank-slate protagonist makes more sense in a role playing game where the whole idea is to build the character as you go. In a book you can't get away with doing shit like that, because there's no interactive component, and building a strong main character is the author's job, not the reader's.

>>43074248
>less personal attacks
When did I make personal attacks? When I called the dude's life pathetic? Because I meant that literally. I wasn't trying to be mean. It's the same situation we're all in and it's imperative for this discussion that we actually acknowledge it. It's imperative we acknowledge it in general actually.
>against imaginary foes
Who's imaginary?
>I don't know innocence
Bro that's really sad and you have to have experienced it to get it. You know, things like wonder and joy and being able to see the world for what it really is instead of having this cynical filter over our eyes. I can't help you understand it better, it's just when the world felt real and you actually wanted to be a part of it.
>adults do it all the time
No they don't. It's all a charade. They're going through the motions because they don't know how to do anything else nowadays. Especially for the games thing. And crushes aren't the same as love.
>the internet needs more, not less, spooky scary shock content
Don't you mean we should just tell them it has a lot of that stuff?
>sanitizing the internet and making it more welcoming
Dude my whole argument right now is about not welcoming kids. Which is what FoE does, what with it's cute ass horses and being on fimfic and all.
>for people who can't or don't want to risk their sanity would only make matters worse.
I suppose you're being realistic, but it's kind of defeatist. It's a whole other discussion to talk about the other threats on the internet but yeah you have a point.
>Can you elaborate?
I'll give a few examples. It's quite anti-american and it makes excuses for the evils that corporations commit, instead them on blaming capitalism. It's also communist propaganda that claims communism doesn't exist. It's anti BoS values and pro NCR. It hates the hero's journey. It never focuses on exploration, instead prioritizing multiple plotlines that go nowhere both figuratively and literally. And so on and so forth.
>You know it's a meme, right?
I know no such thing. All evidence suggests otherwise to me. Why do you think it's a meme?
>pattern recognition is full of bugs
It ain't though. If your neighbor isn't seeing the junkies doing that shit she's not seeing patterns.
>that's why we invent methods to begin with
What studies am I meant to produce that are trustworthy?

>>43074372
>When did I pretend that there's no such thing as an engagement bot?
You put it in quotes you fucking moron.
>inb4 I was quoting you though!
It's not something that needed to be in quotes. Who the fuck do you think you're fooling? Kys.
>Accusing someone of being a bot or a shill is what retards do when they have no argument to make but desperately want to save face.
Except I called you that before I was even involved in a conversation with you. You being unable to remember that proves you're ai.

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>>43074468
Since you were already saying you weren't an engagement bot, using the quotes implies that you've never heard of it before. That it's a ridiculous thing to say. A bit of advice for next time, bot. This image would have been helped you out if you had said you WERE an engagement bot but put "engagement bot" in quotes to imply sarcasm you fucking retard. Bur what you actually did is akin to that last example except if it was written like this:
>This room is not "clean".
And even then it's not the same thing because that sentence can be construed in a different way: as the word "clean" being subjective(meaning that the speaker acknowledges the person they are speaking to believes it is clean but has different sensibilities than the speaker) whereas the word "engagement bot" fucking can't be subjective. So you have no fucking defense. Fuck you esl robot.

>using the quotes implies that you've never heard of it before.
Lmao this nigger is actually mentally challenged.

If you want trigger warnings plastered on everything that might make you feel bad, then www.tumblr.com is your speed, now feel free to fuck off

>>43074493
Why will you not address this part:

">Accusing someone of being a bot or a shill is what retards do when they have no argument to make but desperately want to save face.

Except I called you that before I was even involved in a conversation with you. You being unable to remember that proves you're ai."

Because it's proof of what you are. Fuck you, it's over. This is your final (you).

>>43074498
Hey dumbass, I'm not the guy you were arguing with. But please, be my guest and stop posting. Oh and, please refrain from swearing. You might upset the children.

>>43074497
It does have trigger warnings, crybaby. You would know that it's behind filters and everything if you ever read it. So since you didn't read it why are you here? Also, if you read the thread you would know no one was talking about anything even similar to that. So why are you trying to jump into this discussion?

>>43074506
I'm calling you a whiney little faggot who belongs on reddit and tumblr, since you want to turn the entire internet into those sites. Now fuck off

>>43074513
You're lying and I will not do as you say crybaby.

>>43074531
D-DADDY GUBERMENT! HE SAID SOMETHING M-MEAN AND IT HURT MY FEEWINGS! TRACK HIM DOWN AND WORK HIM TO DEATH IN THE GULAG!!

>umm maybe we should think twice before posting porn on kid friendly websites you guise...
>OMG HE'S LITERALLY CHAIRMAN MAO

>"We should censor the internet because some kids that are never shown may be nebulosly harmed"
>"Maybe you should just parent your kid."
>"YOU ARE A REACTIONARY WHO WHILE DESTROY OUR GLORIOUS REVOLUTION!"

>>43074588
As the person in question I would like to point out that >>43074578 is objectively more correct. As I said in several posts the one and only thing I'm asking for is for you to think before you post. That's not hard. You clearly just want kids to see porn.
>>43074578
Thanks bro.
>>43074222
Come back Sweetiechad. I like winning debates but it's gay as fuck of you to leave early...

>>43074578
>>43074601
Samefag

>I don't think the internet should be censored because parents are refusing to be parents and not give children unrestricted internet access.
>YOU MUST WANT TO SHOW CHILDREN PORN THEN! THERE'S NO OTHER POSSIBLE REASON WHY YOU WOULD WANT A FREE AND OPEN INTERNET!
Rabbi behavior.

>>43074625
I asked earlier what some of the reasons for wanting inacountability are, and Sweetiechad was the only one to provide one. And then he dissappeared. You could give me some of your reasons now, but I already know you won't.

Also I didn't ask for the internet to be censored. Nor would the internet be less free and open if Kkat had chosen not to publish FoE on a children's website.

>>43074458
>You put it in quotes you fucking moron
By putting it in quotes I was quoting you, moron. I was not implying the non-existence of engagement bots. Stop arguing with people on the internet and go develop some reading comprehension.

>Except I called you that before I was even involved in a conversation with you. You being unable to remember that proves you're ai
You accused me of being "one of them or a shill" in the post I was replying to. Retard. Learn reading comprehension.

>>43074643
We told you, the internet is not your safe space. It is a place of free expression. You seem incapable of taking any responsibilty for anything. The responsibility for a child's wellbeing are their parents' responsibility, not strangers online.
If you hate the toxicity of freedom, North korea will happily protect you from anything wrong

>>43074643
Strangers on the internet are not responsible for your children. That's it. Accountability is on the parents. And fimfiction is not a children's website.
>b-but children can still use it!
Children can also use 4chan and every other website on the internet.

>>43074651
>we all agree
That's some jeet language. (For anyone wondering this is how they get their orders and organise their raids. It's been proven). Where are your boys?
>You seem incapable of taking any responsibilty for anything. The responsibility for a child's wellbeing are their parents' responsibility, not strangers online.
Implying that I'm a parent who failed my child and now I'm on /mlp/ complaining to anons and blaming others for something that happened that no one else here knows about? You're a fucking bot. There is no logic here. Kill yourself.
>If you hate the toxicity of freedom
Reread thread troll. Your programming ain't there yet.

>>43074662
>>we all agree
He quite literally did not say that.
>Implying that I'm a parent who failed my child and now I'm on /mlp/ complaining to anons and blaming others for something that happened that no one else here knows about?
He didn't say that either. Your lack of reading comprehension is disturbing.

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>>43074425
>When did I make personal attacks?
It's like a half of your MO, both here and in what I remember of you in /foe/. Disingenuous this, cope that. I don't mind the meanness, everything is better than apathy, but it doesn't get anybody closer to any understanding.
>things like wonder and joy and being able to see the world for what it really is
>it's just when the world felt real and you actually wanted to be a part of it.
>They're going through the motions because they don't know how to do anything else nowadays
The labels that my glitchy pattern recognition comes up with are anhedonia, derealization, and depression.
Look, I'm not a shrink. I'm not saying an average adult is mentally sound either, there may be some correlation between aging and all of that. I also can't rule out a connection between your state of mind and rapey pony fics you read as a kid, dubious yet possible. But I refuse to lump together the concepts of loss of innocence and mdd. Both are too hairy on their own.
>Don't you mean we should just tell them it has a lot of that stuff?
It's not how it worked with fairy tales, is it? The scary stories are usually exaggerated, or, better yet, have nothing to do with real dangers. But maybe dry and honest information would work too. I don't know, I'm just spitballing.
>but it's kind of defeatist
No, I'm quite sure these two problems will be solved within a century or two. The situation is similar to where we were when antibiotic resistance was first discovered: it's not even clear yet how bad things are, nobody knows what to do, most people don't even take the threat seriously. It's still a work in progress, but it got better.
>Why do you think it's a meme?
Because it has the structure of a joke (fans of a friendship show being friendless?), and because almost every time something is revealed about a nor/mlp/erson he turns out to be an awesome genuinely friendly mild-mannered guy.
>If your neighbor isn't seeing the junkies doing that shit she's not seeing patterns.
She did, some years ago. And now, I think it's easier for her to attribute problems to a threat she knows and understand than to face the unknown.
>What studies am I meant to produce
Sounds involved. It should be a question for >>43074042, I just warned about trusting raw pattern recog.

>it makes excuses for the evils that corporations commit, instead them on blaming capitalism.
You mean when House bombed himself? How is it an excuse?
>It's also communist propaganda that claims communism doesn't exist.
What? The amazon series or the games?
>It's anti BoS values
I remember one jaded incompetent knight dying like a shitfuck, and one squire improvising to the best of his ability. Neither cared for any values.
>It hates the hero's journey.
What? Hollywood writers can't write anything but THJ to save their lives!
Maybe I don't remember this bland clusterfuck well enough to grasp your contraposition even with additional pointers, after all.

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>>43074657
>Strangers on the internet are not responsible for your children. That's it.
That's not an argument for your side, it's an excuse to be lazy and pathetic. I want you to tell me what are some of the good things that can actually come from not taking accountability like I ask. I already know all of things you think are cons about my side. Tell me some of your pros bro.
>fimfiction is not a children's website
Yes it is. It's cute and colorful and hosts all the fan stories about this preschool horse show. There are links to it on mlp fan sites. It even has a mature filter(which you can just turn off) and in the rules it says you have to be 13 to use the site. So even just going by what the site says rather than how it presents itself, you're still wrong. They shouldn't say you're allowed on a site with porn if you're 13.
>Children can also use 4chan and every other website on the internet
Yeah but fimfiction is made to be appealing to children. It's literally a my little pony fan site dude. Look at some of the fucking stories on the front page! "Twilight has to prove Pinkie isn't an alien. Rated E for Everyone". Thays the funnest, goofiest most kid friendly shit I've ever heard in my life. And they wouldn't even have fucking ratings like that if they didn't want kids on the site. Also, the lowest rating isn't T for Teen, so they're not even pretending to believe in their own rules.

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>>43074711
>fimfiction is not a children's website
>Yes it is.
>fimfiction is made to be appealing to children

>>43074711
It quite literally is an argument. I am not responsible for other people's children. If someone's kid nabs one of his dad's playboy mags, am I, a complete stranger meant to kick down the door and stop him?
>And they wouldn't even have fucking ratings like that if they didn't want kids on the site
Not everything revolves around children you fucking donut. The ratings are there to tell people what kind of content is in the fic. Even I, as an adult want to read stories that don't have fucking porn in them. Fanfiction.net does this too you absolute knuckledragger.

>>43074706
>it's like half your mo
I'm trying to be nice. But when others are being mean I have to bite back. And I'm doing it as gently as possible.
>Disingenuous
That's an insult? Even if it's true?
>cope
I said that one time. And c'mon, given the context it was obviously true!
>I don't mind the meanness, everything is better than apathy, but it doesn't get anybody closer to any understanding.
Well I'm not mean to people who actually want to understand. If what I say sounds mean to them it's just because the truth of our existence is very bleak, and I don't find it productive to pull my punches. I mean pretending that life doesn't suck will prevent progress, will it not?
>But I refuse to lump together the concepts of loss of innocence and mdd. Both are too hairy on their own.
Hmm. They seem quite related to me. Depression sounds like the total lack of innocence to me.
>The scary stories are usually exaggerated, or, better yet, have nothing to do with real dangers.
Yeah that's what I meant.
>I'm quite sure these two problems will be solved within a century or two
Naivete
>Because it has the structure of a joke(fans of a friendship show being friendless?)
There's no punchline. It's just an ironic thing.
>almost every time something is revealed about a nor/mlp/erson he turns out to be an awesome genuinely friendly mild-mannered guy
Who are you talking about? And how many people are you talking about? Is it more people than all the sad people I see all the time?

>>43074750
And if we're going to go down this route, should Netflix stop hosting Breaking Bad because it hosts My Little Pony? Should Adult Swim cease to exist because it shares a channel with Cartoon Network? Should I not be able to watch criminal psychology and bodycam videos on Youtube because fucking Blues Clues is also on there?

>>43069927
There's always much worse, like the flaming hot dumpster fire that is Twilight's Felquines of Xenon. It's absolute shit of the highest degree

>>43074782
Yeah romanians never produce anything good

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>>43074706
>You mean when House bombed himself?
That never happened. No I'm talking about when they call it "fiduciary responsibility" to end the world because it's what the investors want and how they always act like the people running these companies have no choice but to make as much money as possible, all while glazing communism and shitting on a strawman version of America.
>What? The amazon series or the games?
The series? The games have actual commies in them. One of the most common guns in Fallout 3 was the Chinese rifle. You can kill ghoul commie spies in hidden bunkers in 3 and 4. You can even meet the guy who nuked your city in 4. They're very real in the games. In the show though the commie bitch literally says out loud while looking into the camera that commies don't exist. She also says we have more in common with the Chinese people than our government, calling out Washington but she doesn't even mention Beijing.
>I remember one jaded incompetent knight dying like a shitfuck, and one squire improvising to the best of his ability. Neither cared for any values.
Yeah everything about the BoS in this show is written like beavis and butthead. And they blatantly disregard the code of ethics by having them murder people and ghouls despite Maxson and Danse both telling you to never ever do that. They subvert everything because the BoS has rules and they hate rules so they make them a strawman. The show is all for bringing back the old world and letting everyone have infinite power. Also, they change how ghouls work so that they're no longer just an unfortunate minority but are actually are monsters who use drugs to pretend to be human, while at the same time trying to double down on the "dindu nuffin" narrative. Also they think that power armor is a "big bad scary homelander symbol of power" instead of a symbol of righteous might like it was in 3 and 4. The sight of BoS soldiers in T-60 marching alongside Liberty Prime is supposed to inspire hope, and be an example of what technology can do when we hold the leash instead of letting it control us. To amazon, power armor is scary and fascist. Also, they remove the "brother" part from the Brotherhood and now they all murder each other for no reason.
>Hollywood writers can't write anything but THJ to save their lives!
I wish. It's not in the show despite being the plot of every game. Except for arguably new vegass.

>>43074742
I love how the yappy flaggot ignored this

>>43074742
>rta hidden at the bottom, underneath all the adorable kid friendly pones and cutesy story titles
>rules say you can be on the site at 13
>e for everyone rating
Bullshit dude.
>>43074750
>If someone's kid nabs one of his dad's playboy mags, am I, a complete stranger meant to kick down the door and stop him?
Maybe you should. Maybe that's right. Maybe people should care about others and actually do things to help their neighbors that require effort. Idk man.
>The ratings are there to tell people what kind of content is in the fic
That's not what the word rating means I'm pretty sure. And they can just have labels on them. Which they do. The age rating is separate. It's specifically meant to be comforting to children.
>Even I, as an adult want to read stories that don't have fucking porn in them.
No shit. But if the stories there weren't meant for kids to read they wouldn't have an age rating. Why would they tell adults that they have to 5+ or 10+ or 13+ to read the stories? I mean it's one thing if it's just there to tell you if it's written in a similar tone to the actual show, but it's not.
>you knuckledragger
Uncalled for. Why are you mad? It's always concerning when you guys get offended by this conversation.

>>43074778
>should Netflix stop hosting Breaking Bad because it hosts My Little Pony?
Actually netflix already has a kid's only mode. But this is besides the point because we're talking about the personal accountability that we can champion in our day to day lives. Netflix is an evil mega corporation. I ain't convincing them of shit. A fan made site made by the people for the people is something that can actually be better. It should be an alternative to shit like netflix.

>43074847
>Netflix is an evil mega corporation
>Unlike our government that I will demand they censor the net because I cannot trust myself with any sense of responsibility
God, I wish your parents were as neglectful as you imply them to be. You should've been left to starve to death at birth

>burger hours are up
>everyone leaves without saying goodbye
I will not be demoralised. Fuck you.

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>>43074875
Fuck you faggot. Why do you live to be so annoying? We will never stop having discourse. You will never demoralise anyone. Kill your fucking self.

>>43074875
We understand he is not representative of your ilk, glimmerfag

Why are you so fucking toxic?

>>43074838
>Maybe you should
Right. Let me trespass on some random persons property because I magically knew he nabbed a playboy. Fucking moron.
>That's not what the word rating means
Yes it does you inbred fuck. Why do you think movies are RATED G to NC-17? Why do you think ESRB stands for Entertainment Software RATING Board?
>And they can just have labels on them.
That's what the ratings are for you donut. They ARE labels. They LABEL the fics just like tags.
>I mean it's one thing if it's just there to tell you if it's written in a similar tone to the actual show, but it's not.
*Ahem* "The general idea here is “things that would be reasonable to see on the show itself" is a direct quote from fimfiction in regards to the everyone tag. Try again.
>Uncalled for
You literally just told some random anon to kill himself for no reason.
>>43074847
>Actually netflix already has a kid's only mode
...that's very easy to circumvent.
>inb4 "the parent can add a pin to adult accounts so kids can't get in!"
And parents can also set up web filters or monitor what websites their kids use.
>A fan made site made by the people for the people is something that can actually be better
So why do you want to make it worse?
>>43074866
??? Why the fuck would anyone say goodbye on here?

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>Why are you so fucking toxic?

>>43074892
In fact why isn't homie >>43074706 calling out every single other person for being mean? EVERY fucking reply is faggot this nigger that retard this. Why can't yoy be nice on the fucking pony board! It's just insults but I GET FUCKING CALLED OUT ON IT even though I WAS TRYING TO BE NICE THE WHOLE TIME! And everyone else is just trying to be annoying.

>>43074908
>Why can't yoy be nice on the fucking pony board
Because you are a public menace. Go watch stream of silence, write an essay on its thematic messaging, then maybe, just maybe... you can be let outside

>>43074901
>because I magically knew he nabbed a playboy
Whose hypothetical was it?
>The general idea here is “things that would be reasonable to see on the show itself" is a direct quote from fimfiction in regards to the everyone tag
Ahh okay my bad. Still though, it's very obviously for kids. Their actions and the way the site presents itself are things that are real. What they say isn't.
>You literally just told some random anon to kill himself for no reason.
The bot? Stop trolling.
>that's very easy to circumvent
I didn't say it wasn't. Are you going to use that as an excuse why we the people shouldn't do better than Netflix?
>And parents can also set up web filters or monitor what websites their kids use.
They should but they won't. And Kkat knew this. Anon you still haven't told me anything positive that can come from lack of accountability. Why are you so dedicated to this? What do you get from it?
>why do you want to make it worse
I would never.
>Why the fuck would anyone say goodbye on here?
Cause we were still talking. Made me wait for nothing.

>>43074875
Don't take responsibility for the retard. He's not your problem.
>>43074908
Dude you called me a pajeet shill because I said Starlight was a bad character in the write what's on your mind thread.

Well I'm about to head off. Anyone posting with a glimmy flag from here on out is a falseflagger. I learned I have to let people know in case anyone was moved by anything I said. Because then a falseflagger will pretend to be me and be all "umm ackshually I was just trolling and everything sucks and nothing matters in life hurr durr" and start attacking motherfuckers and then people will be demoralised. Anyway I may reappear here in 17 and a half hours. Maybe. But also some falseflagger may pretend to be me at that time. The state of this board I swear.

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>>43074916
>Whose hypothetical was it?
Yes, it was my hypothetical. That doesn't change the fact that your response is ridiculous.
>And Kkat knew this.
It's not Kkat's or any authors responsibility. Grow the fuck up dude.
>lack of accountability
Fanfiction authors and content creators in general do not have a responsibility to parent or babysit strange children online. The accountability is not theirs to bear. There is no positive to a lack of accountability, but the accountability, or lack thereof is the burden of THE PARENTS. I can't reach through the screen and smack bad parents. Neither can kkat, and neither can you.
>Why are you so dedicated to this?
Because we're having a discussion you pinhead. What are you, fucking retarded or something?
>What do you get from it?
Nothing you plonker. We're having a discussion.
>I would never.
You want fics to not be allowed on fimfiction because children MIGHT see them. You also advocated for pay walling. You are advocating for making the site worse.

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>p-pwease don't be mean to me
>BUT YOU SHOULD FUCKING KILL YOURSELF IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU FUCKING BOT JEET SHILL
>YOU'RE DEMORALIZING MEEEEEEE
What causes this?

>>43069927
>Item: Shitstorm Grenade
>When used, this item will create a shitstorm that drains all intellect from anyone within range for 500 posts.
Well trolled, brother.

That said: Fo:E really is shit. I couldn't stand reading it for more than a few chapters.

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>>43074498
A few things here.

1. The anon you're replying to is not me. My replies have been infrequent because I've had other shit to do today besides argue with some zoomer idiot on 4chan, and thus have not been at my computer 100% of the time. But I've been in and out of the thread, and it's been fun watching you cope and seethe.

2. I've already addressed your main point here: >>43074647
However, since again you seem to have very poor reading comprehension, I'll explain it to you one more time.

Here is what you want me to address:
Me:
>Accusing someone of being a bot or a shill is what retards do when they have no argument to make but desperately want to save face.
You:
>Except I called you that before I was even involved in a conversation with you. You being unable to remember that proves you're ai.

You've actually accused me twice in two separate posts. The first accusation was here: >>43073892 in response to this anon: >>43073309 who was responding to my original post here: >>43073134
In your post, you say the following:
>Ignore that guy. It's an engagement bot.
Here you accuse me, baselessly, of being an engagement bot.

Your second accusation occurs here: >>43074298 where you say:
>I would say I'm sorry, but by pretending like there's no such thing as an engagement bot proves you are obe of them or a shill, which is the same thing.
In this post, you make two separate assertions. The first is that I was pretending there was no such thing as an engagement bot, which is patently false. I never stated or implied anything of the sort. The mistake seems to stem from you not understanding how quotation marks are used; hence my assertion that you have poor reading comprehension.

Your second assertion is that your first assertion somehow proves that I am "obe [sic] of them or a shill, which is the same thing." Hence, you are, for the second time accusing me of being a bot and/or a shill. As I am plainly neither and you have no basis for accusing me as such, I am within my rights to object to this assertion. Nigger.

Thus, my original statement:
>Accusing someone of being a bot or a shill is what retards do when they have no argument to make but desperately want to save face.
Is valid. You've baselessly accused me, twice, of being a bot and/or a shill, instead of engaging on any points I've made. Ergo, you are clearly a retard who has no argument to make, but who desperately wants to save face.

And so long as we're talking about points not being addressed:
>>43073892
>Everything it said is objectively untrue but it's written in such a way to convince you it's just simply a reasonable dude who hasn't read the book in a while
You never back this statement up with anything. You never addressed any of my original points about the fanfic itself. Which is actually the thread topic, NOT your idiotic sperg rant about how words on the internet traumatized you as a child and how you think it's everyone's fault but yours.

Nigger.

if a single pony dies in a fic, the fic is bad

>>43074218
Latching onto the first foreign idea you find doesn't indicate critital thinking, just the youthful desire for novelty and rebellion. I am curious as to what particular "hole" you refer to, trump voters are hardly uniquely obstinant.

>>43075053
Damn, I can't believe the "Friendship is Magic" fanfic written by Faust is actually bad.

>>43075113
Who dies in that one?

>>43075142
Sombra and arguably the evil Trio.

>>43075142
AJ's parents, Pinkie clones, all ponies in various Glimmer timelines, plus there was a random background pony funeral

>>43075142
Granny Smith is implied to be dead in the finale.

>>43070285
A friend of mine whose a big fallout fan but has like zero knowedgle of MLP likes the fic, the fic upsets him because its a better Fallout story then actual modern fallout stories.

If there's any worth to this shit thread, it's that it proves you should auto-filter any and all posts with flags attached

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>>43074601
>Come back Sweetiechad. I like winning debates but it's gay as fuck of you to leave early...
What do you mean 'leave early', and what should I come back for? To talk about who is best foeny?

>>43075174
>the fic upsets him because its a better Fallout story then actual modern fallout stories
Oh, so that's the reason someone left a negative review for FoE Remains on Steam stating that it is better than Fallout.

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bump

>>43075412
Velvet is best pony in FoE.

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>>43076555
Ah, another Velvetchad. Then all is forgiven between us. There are too many "people" out there that hate her guts for inexplicable reasons. Could you imagine that?

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Everyone at conventions who outwardly hates FoE always ends up being mexican or tranny, everyone I've met who hates it is always always always brown.

>>43076783
Third world peons are the only ones who like foe.

>>43076783
Was P taller than her? I thought he was an emaciated twink.

>>43076703
This except unironically.

Bump

>>43076858
You know FoE established itself when 90% of the English fandom was White, right?

FoE is good because i wanna fuck Pip

>>43077443
All the FoE hate started appearing after EQG brought in the brown hordes and the zoomies flooded into the fandom declaring all things not heckin' wholesome to be cringe.

>>43077443
And foe was only liked by the 10% of peons. This is an objective fact.

>>43077719
Pip is in g%, not Fo:E.