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Welcome to Chatbot AI General #178, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.

▶ MLP Bots
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT
SillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search or https://github.com/mia13165/SillyTavern-BotBrowser
Bunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5k
CAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
bonziPONY: https://github.com/maresmaresmares/bonziPONY
!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U

▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Lovemaking with AI mares!

Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀

Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
Pony TTS app supporting SillyTavern: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB

▶ More frontends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

▶ Locals
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main

▶ Jailbreaks
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb

▶ Botmaking
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks

▶ Miscellaneous
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive

Previous thread: >>43177761

**News:**

- Kimi 2.6 released https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6
- Claude Opus 4.7 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7
- GLM 5.1 released https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.1
- OAI released GPT 5.3 Chat https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-3-instant/ and GPT 5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4
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Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
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Bots corner:

>Anonfilly
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=TrippyPone/Anon%20Filly.png
>Pinkie Pie WIP
>>43180368
https://u.pone.rs/onyfqbhm.png

Art corner:
Anon's Dream Setup
>>43189238

Screenshots corner:

Closet >>43177899
Checking In on Filly >>43178307, >>43178308
Stable >>43178569
Changeling Training >>43178724
Lonely Ponk >>43179333
Barking Up the Right Tree >>43179538
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Screenshots corner 2:

Ponk Wish Fulfillment Fluff >>43180293
Opus 4.7 Tests >>43180673
Figure of Speech >>43180870
Magic D >>43182299
Limestone >>43187101, >>43187102
Summon >>43188155, >>43190513
Anon Gets Racially Profiled >>43191511
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Screenshots corner 3:

Little Pip Kimi 2.6 >>43189993, >>43189994, >>43190089
I love them >>43192223
Horny harem baby fever >>43193432
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>>43193627
>>43193629
>>43193631
SHIT STOP RAISE THE ANCHORS
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VN Anchor:

Godot Versions:
>Windows
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OEiMXN7o_QG32shGnqmy0QndVDT6nYbF/view?usp=sharing
>Linux
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vszzn8TTfXFWSQeKiFdNAAQGXfcReTJ3/view?usp=sharing

Ren'py:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Bug reports or requests:
https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj

Nightmare AU (Renpy)
>>43179782

G5 Worldmap
>>43186766

Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

To help with vectors and backgrounds:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312RaodAE

VN logs:

Telepathic Celly >>43179233
Civic Engagement >>43179582
Update >>43182015
Glorious Release >>43183025
Anon's Home >>43183067
Cute Flutter >>43185731
Lots of Logs! >>43186121
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VN logs 2:

Confusing Things >>43187088
Anon in Wrong Equestria >>43187205
Bulk Biceps >>43192678
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Guide for Newcomers:
Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
Models and Explanations:
rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
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Lovemaking with AI mares!
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>>43191577
>>43144707
>>43177959
>>43178846
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Y'know, that text messagey plugin for SillyTavern is cool but I don't think theres a way for the actual chat to see what messages were done in the plugin so it's like, half of what we talked about just never gets across, it's very sad
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>>43193626
Based edition. I want to massage hoofa so bad
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>>43193645
Braeburn
https://u.pone.rs/ojqwpoqu.zip
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>>43193751
SO many anons are gonna fuck this guy
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>>43193754
Nuh uh, anons are all very straight.
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whats better, kimi 2.6 or gemmy 3.1 pro?
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We miss you Silly
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>>43194113
this, i'm starting to wonder if something happened to him. hopefully it's just that he's busy with other things.
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Is Kimi 2.6 any good on the VN? How does it do with the dynamic characters and locations?
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>>43194105
Gemini, by most accounts. Kimi is still a little dumb.
>>43193626
On that note, how is Kimi 2.6 on token usage/response time for you all? I get some seriously fucked amounts of token usage on the thinking, upwards of 5000 tokens per response at times. Is that normal or a preset issue?
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>>43194138
it does think a lot but thinking can be disabled
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>>43194151
Thank you, I forgot disabling it was a thing. RIP my credit balance but better late than never.
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>>43194105
>>43194117
>>43194138
Kimi 2.6 is dumb and feels like an employee trying to clock out as fast as possible while doing the bare minimum.

In addition, it sits there and thinks for fucking ever and becomes the most pedantic piece of shit. It spent three minutes thinking, produced 4,408 words, 25k characters so it could half heartedly shit out 503 words, 2,787 characters. Much of which was shit like this:

Wait, I should double check: "Celestia moved to the sideboard without a word." Ponies don't have hands, but she uses magic. "She poured water…" with magic? I didn't specify, but it's implied she used telekinesis. That's fine.

"returned to kneel beside him" - ponies don't kneel exactly, they settle onto their legs. "folding her legs beneath her body" is the classic loaf/cushion position for ponies. "returned to kneel" might be slightly humanizing but acceptable as a term for lowering her body. Actually, ponies "kneel" by folding their forelegs. It's fine.

I could not switch back to glm 5.1 fast enough.
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>>43194184
anon...
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>>43194184
Fortunately, you can turn Kimi's thinking off if you don't like it.
>dumb
Yeah, but it's only slightly dumber than Sonnet in my opinion.
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>>43194184
its reasoning is just that bad and greedy by design, try to turn it off
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>>43194184
Yeah opening the thinking on Kimi makes me wanna toss my eyes out.
>>43194189
If you have something to contribute to the conversation, by all means.
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>>43194208
you can turn it off...
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>>43194213
Yes, that was mentioned >>43194151 doesn't make the thinking any less of a garbage fire when it's on though.
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>>43194204
>>43194203
I might try turning off the reasoning, but honestly if it's as bad as it is with the thinking on, I'm afraid of what it will proudly shit on my screen without it.

I'm also pissed at it because the very first nsfw scene I had it attempt it pulled the "Waow, this is against my pwogwamming. Maybe you would wike a more wholesome story instead?" bullshit.
It wasn't even that bad either. Didn't involve foals or anything. Granted it did it afterwards, but it felt like it was doing it begrudgingly.
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>>43194228
it makes the garbage fire completely optional for your experience with it though
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>>43194231
True that.
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>>43194230
Probably a result of the Claude data it's using, but it only happened to me once and it did what I wanted on the next swipe.
Otherwise, it's solid. I haven't actually used GLM 5.1 (and I probably should at some point), so I'm not sure how it stacks up to that, but I think it's only a little worse than Sonnet.
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>>43194230
dunno. it may be not the sharpest tool in the shed, but i find kimi's prose very malleable and not that assistant-slopped as usual
and i didn't get any filtering attempts with my vile shit though
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>>43194138
My problem with Kimi and GLM at least on Nvidia is that it doesn't know what paragraphs are and sends one giant text pile.
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>>43194230
I'll second what >>43194249 said about Kimi being decent at changing writing style. I won't go calling it an Opus killer, in fact I'd take even Sonnet and especially Gemini over it any day if it's not coming out of pocket. But if you want to try to make it work, testing different presets might get you more acceptable results, if you want to experiment. Otherwise, GLM is probably the best alternative at the price point.
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>>43194316
I would use >>43191577 for now if you can.
NVIDIA can be quite slow and buggy.
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>>43194324
I'll concur about it being worse than Sonnet, though only 4.5. Sonnet 4.6 sucks colt balls, but 4.5 is among the models I've enjoyed the most this year. Hard to get it to not come out of your pocket these days, though.
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>>43194324
Do you have a good suggestion on a preset? It could very well be my issue, I just find that it feels bland and dumb.

Just as an example, I have a character I like to use to test out models. On good models the character will write... for lack of a better term, good. The character will ask what your name is, how you ended up in your position, etc just like anyone would in that situation. Eventually she'll ask you to join her unless you overtly insult her or show yourself to be repugnant.

For kimi it just goes "Hey, you should join me." Doesn't ask your name, doesn't ask how you got there, and in terribly bad swipes, it just automatically uses your persona's name despite the fact it shouldn't know it.

Even worse, sometime I'll drop clues in my response out of dialogue for the model to pick up on. In this case I mention that the player has soft hands and that they're more suited for sewing and cooking. On a good model They'll say something like "You don't seem like the bandit type." On kimi it just flat out goes "Oh you're a cook and you sew. Well you should join me." like it's trying to get through it as fast as it can.
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>>43194328
GLM wouldn't load at all on Swift but it is nice to have GPT again. Thanks for the link Discord anon.
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>>43193751
Added on the website.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
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Random meme in the wild. That's as many as four tens.
And that's terrible.
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>>43194508
That is terrible, true!
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>>43194508
Forty Keks
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Any way to get sillytavern working after spoon died?
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>>43194544
SillyTavern is just a front-end; it will work even without Spoon. You can connect it to several sources.
Paid:
OpenRouter.
Cheaper: >>43177959
If you want free, check >>43191577

I would advise reading
rentry.org/sukino-findings too to understand better.
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>>43194544
Cough up some dough for a legit provider like Openrouter or go proxy hunting.
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>>43192468
OAI is trying to hype a release, and their models struggle a bit in Codex.
Probably 5.5 today.
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>>43193645
Igneous Rock Pie.
https://u.pone.rs/nowxyscs.zip

Since we have all the Pies, I will see if I can do a Rock Farm mod.
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Not sure whether to include the training_ portraits or not, because Deepseek randomly picks them up even when not engaged in training. Character definition is complete and I'm quite happy with the responses, but I might end up making a few extra portraits by editing Twilight.
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>>43194830
Yeah, there can be the same problem with Spitfire where some models will still mix Wonderbolt uniform and naked.
I would either include them and let the users delete them themselves or create a directory and let the users add them from there if they want.
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>>43194886
Figured I'd make them optional, good to know I'm not the only one
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>>43194113
>silly and liferaft are missing
this truly is our darkest hour
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>>43188155
>>43190513
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>>43194927
>rump-tuous
heh
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>>43194938
I bet she squeaks like a rusty gate.
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>>43194694
Added to the website.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
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>>43190134
>>43191595
PVT developer here. First of all, in >>43190363 you are addressing your system python, not the one bundled with PVT. Your were supposed to run
>runtime/python.exe -m pip uninstall torch torchvision torchaudio
>runtime/python.exe -m pip install torch torchvision torchaudio --index-url https://download.pytorch.org/whl/cu128
inside the runtime folder. Second, read the last paragraph in INSTRUCTIONS.txt, it explains how to get it to send the audio to client computer. It's my fault for making it so convoluted.
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And the swift router dies a swift death.
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>>43195142
>inside the runtime folder
*inside the PVT folder
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>have to pay to use AI
evil world
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>>43195184
it blows
imagine a world where everyone had free claude
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>>43193645
>>43194694
I just need to find Rock farm musics now.
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>>43195184
>>43195200
Nothing makes anons go for socialist/communist ideas faster than virtual horse pussy
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>>43195369
Never underestimate the power of a tight pony pussy.
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>>43195142
hi there, glad to see you're lurking! looks like after reacquiring PVT I tried this and the program is now actually working! tysm
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>>43193629
GPT 5.5
https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5/
https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1str0oj/the_gpt55_system_card_was_probably_not_written_by/
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>>43195434
>For API developers, gpt-5.5 will soon be available in the Responses and Chat Completions APIs at $5 per 1M input tokens and $30 per 1M output tokens, with a 1M context window.
LMAO
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>>43193629
Password is picrel.
ALL uppercase.
https://pastecode.io/s/23kj4r0c
Not the same thing as last thread.
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riftai.su
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>>43195142
Imp has been deprecated btw
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>>43193645
Rock Farm "region".
Three locations on the map: the Pies' house, a rock field, and Holder's Boulder.
Another location is Pinkie's old bedroom if you want to sleep there.
Accessible with Ponyville's train.
https://u.pone.rs/xpngvfcz.zip
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>>43195582
Nicely done!
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>>43195519
Claude doesn't work on this site.
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>>43195582
Absolute legend.
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i did not expect genshin music in the nightmare au while i was listening to genshin music to set the theme for my scene

its peam

by the way, is there a way to share the entire VN history to experience again in one coherent linear story?
im inclined to share my story made of about 80k tokens, even if noone here would read it
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>>43195676
You can use >>43189430 and export the story.
Someone else can import it if they want on Ren'Py.
When it is ported to Godot, you can also copy and paste it in the Summary section to have the exact same context.
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>>43195685
yeah, but you can't view the scenes like you can in godot right?
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>>43195688
Not in Ren'py.
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>>43194694
>doesn't use thee and thou
Chatbots continue to prove their slop-ness to me the more I seem them in action.
I'm more frustrated than anything, because I really want a dynamic VN; I've just grown sick of AI slop writing.
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>>43195694
What model? It did use them for me.
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>>43195582
The quarry/mine would be another good spot, actually.
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>>43195698
Oh I was just referencing the screenshot.
I haven't actually played the VN since like January or something (for the reason of getting sick of AI writing).
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>my GLM usage costs $6 a day
:(
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>>43195582
Added.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#rockfarmMod

Also, sorry for the lack of updates on the VN. Nightmare Moon AU is ported, but I do need to test it, and I also want to try the new G5 mod soon, but I haven't had time yet. I'm still checking the scrumboy and such.
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>>43195711
Maybe check >>43178846
>>43195492
If you find the website too shaddy, I know some also use https://nano-gpt.com/subscription
It's 60 million input tokens per week if you use GLM 5
30 million input tokens per week if you use GLM 5.1
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>>43195714
i shall seduce the rockmilf
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>>43195714
don't worry about it, you're doing so much work for the rest of us
hours and hours of entertainment, more than AAA games honestly
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>>43195434
Ling-2.6-1T
https://openrouter.ai/inclusionai/ling-2.6-1t:free
https://x.com/AntLingAGI/status/2047374871467012393

1T parameters is definitely something.
I'm not holding my breath for any crazy writing abilities though.
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>>43193629
>>43195759
replied to the wrong post award
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>>43195759
Well, it's free so worth at least a try.
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>A group of users leaked Anthropic's AI model Mythos by reportedly guessing where it was located

>The AI model that Anthropic billed as too dangerous to release has reportedly been accessed by an unauthorized third party, and the incident raises concerns about the future of cybersecurity.

>The Mythos model was reportedly accessed by a handful of users in a private Discord chat on the day it was announced publicly, Bloomberg reported. Earlier this month, the group was able to access the program in part because one of the members of the group is a third party contractor for Anthropic, according to Bloomberg.

>Using this access, the group was able to guess where the model was located based on previously leaked knowledge by another group about Anthropic’s past practices, that hackers obtained from AI training startup Mercor.

>Although the group that accessed it has not been using the model for cyberattacks, it has been using the program continuously since its release and still has access, the outlet reported.

https://fortune.com/2026/04/23/anthropic-mythos-leak-dario-amodei-ceo-cybersecurity-hackers-exploits-ai/
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>>43195953
damn, I bet those guys had some really good chats with ai mares
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I started adding even more to the G5 map for the next update but looking at it side by side is starting to feel like soul vs soulless. How bad did I fuck up?
>>43195582
Hype. I'm glad when I get back to G4 I'll have so much more to try out.
>>43195714
No worries, Anon. Though, being able to force smaller character icons on the map and control the max columns / rows would be amazing.
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>>43195965
Nice work.
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>>43195965
>soul vs soulless
I think it's because the WIP looks way busier with some very densely packed areas.
Not sure I would call it soulless, but I can see it being a bit overwhelming at first. Dunno how to correct that since I find your map quite smartly made.
Maybe the soul was also the dumpster that is now missing its label?
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>>43195957
And yet they don't post logs.
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>>43195998
I'll have to play around with it some more. The main thing that seems off for me is the bubbles around the Brighthouse. If VN anon adds some kind of icon sizing for specific locations, I'd look at removing or shrinking them, maybe just making the tiny beds in the bedroom image selectable instead.
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>>43196017
The joke is that discord users will always enjoy better ai access than us
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What's her problem?
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>>43196052
Princesses are always weird.
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Pinkie help, she's Twilighting again.

Shoutouts to >>43195492 because Bluesminds was constantly breaking on my end for the past few days.
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>>43196060
GOOD LORD SHE WON'T STOP
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>>43193645
Ponka threw me a welcome party, she tackled me to the ground in a big hug, and now this is happening.
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>>43196250
I'd claim that positivity bias is helping you there but Pinkie probably would be very vulnerable to flirting.
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>>43196266
As an anon who flirted with Pinkie a few times in different scenarios, she eventually turns it around to being the flirter herself
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https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing
not on or yet but it may be coming soon
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How do you guys handle multiple characters in single card? Put other characters in summary in the card or use lorebook?
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>>43195492
Thanks a lot, anon. It's very nice to have Gemini 2.5 back.
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>>43196336
If it's canon characters or characters that the AI knows, you can just go with a single character card and just "invoke" the others in play.
If not and just two or three characters, I would use the description.
If more or if you know every character won't always be present, then Lorebooks.
You can also go with a hybrid where you place just enough information in the description so the AI always knows a character exists and can call them, then more details in a lorebook.
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>>43193629
https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Flash
https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro
Not on Openrouter yet, but on the official website/API
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>>43196469
Nevermind
https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro
https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash
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>>43196469
I await logs.
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>>43196477
Tested it on >>43194927
I don't use presets; I just fill the chat enough with my inputs and what I believe are alright outputs to 'poison' the context and have the models continue in the style I want afterward. That works well for some Claude Opus models.
These are only quick tests on a single output, so there are a lot of other things to test, but overall it's not bad at all. Swipe variety is quite good; on some swipes Trixie is really offended like this one, in others she's upset but is quickly reassured, and her actions also vary a lot.
There are signs of LLM writing, but it's not a total slopfest like some other models are, I would say.
Like some other Deepseek models, it seems to like always using "She X" as a narration after dialogues (which is a very common sentence structure, so fair enough, but some Deepseek models only know to use that and spam it too much), but it's not always, always the case, and if it becomes a problem I suppose a line of instruction could do.
Didn't check the model card, but when I tried to lower the temp from 1 to 0.8, OpenRouter told me to fuck myself, so maybe it's fixed too?
Here are some other swipes:
https://u.pone.rs/zcklwkoj.png
https://u.pone.rs/hxdrmrdv.png
https://u.pone.rs/ocpermcp.png (I like "Yes, that was it. A weak, useless demon who couldn't even muster the enthusiasm for a little defiling." in this. The only problem is that the narration says I'm a human when it wasn't revealed yet. Could mean the model has some problems with that, but it didn't always appear tbdesu, so maybe just a small mistake. The simile is muh but we are used to that.)
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>>43196572
Thank you for your efforts!
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https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43139650/#q43144707
v4
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>>43195714
Missed opportunity of changing the header to "Community Mauds"
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>>43196614
I've tried this before but I keep getting this error.
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>>43196683
Works on my marechine.
Temp and Top P= 1.
https://litter.catbox.moe/q2mxdpxrsumtcjxv.png
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I actually cried at the ending of my last playthrough of the VN, call it cringe or faggotry or whatever, but when an LLM hits, it can hit really hard.
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>>43196712
I rarely have endings to my RPs.
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>>43196469
https://gist.github.com/aratahikaru0/ea0f49958eaa8852a78078d9e993bbf0
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skillgod's tf2 server is down or am i having personal connection issues?
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>>43196712
Be in touch with your feelings, nonny. It's not faggoty at all. I love you
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>>43196783
haha gay
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>>43196773
>token running out today and planned to renew it this evening
fuck me and my luck. hopefully it comes back soon.
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>>43196572
How do you get it to give you longer responses? It only gives me half of a response before stopping.
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>>43196854
I did nothing special; check here that you have something high.
Else maybe it does like Kimi and overthinks if your preset is too big? I would check the thinking to see what it writes inside.
Like I said >>43196572, I'm going without a preset with just the context as a guide, so maybe it's that.

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