>>129556884
It's visceral in ways other instruments are not.

>>129556884
>>129556902
All my old bands except one used drum machines. Feels really nice when you don't have a "me hit things" Neanderthal trying to control your band because he knows he's in high demand.

>>129556884
Most musicians only have one instrument. Drummers have many instruments. You are also the foundation of every band. No pressure.

there are drummers, and then there's Buddy Rich
https://youtu.be/9esWG6A6g-k?si=Q_m45Rpgfe6c3EWo

>>129556953
This is like claiming guitarists play 6 instruments because they have 6 strings. Very disingenuous.

Watching guitarist play is also fun as long as they're not doing that lazy "3 chords and muh truth" nonsense deligated to nogs

>>129556953
you want to sound smart so bad

https://youtu.be/XJXfDcxzkJU?si=67dE4SxuC1DWLGuq
One of my favourite drummers to watch.

Drums are for retards who can't play instruments.

hitting things with sticks is a primal as it gets
its literally monkey music (in a good way, thats not a criticism)

>>129557867
Gavin is the greatest drummer born after 1960 by a long shot.

>>129557867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuZFyTvMPLk

this guy for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o3NQnSvJZI

>drums can't carry a tra-

>>129557011
he cant improvise for shit

>>129557408
Drums are always the foundation. They set the beat. Drums and bass are closely related. They set things up for guitar, keyboards, and singing. If the drummer can't hold a beat, everything else fails around them.

There are many different percussion instruments. If you're a guitarist, and can't play any other stringed instruments, you are as worthless as a drummer with one drum.

you want it so bad

>>129557270
Not him and not true. Drummers use all four of their limbs and playing a kick pedal and hi-hat pedal is different from hitting a drum, which is slightly different from hitting cymbals.

>>129556884
because you want drummer boy to stick his drum stick somewhere.
iow, youse a fag OP but don't realize it yet.

>>129559689
>projection

>>129559689
>>129558956
>>129557408
does /mu/ have some kind of anti-drum schizo?

>>129559797
Yes, i think it’s the pathetic wannabe nazi that trolls the shill threads

>>129558563
go to bed, child

>>129559867
he's a one-trick soloist pony who only impresses pseuds and tourists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoIZQh1IjI8

>>129556917
those bands lacked stage presence and any real live energy and I'm willing to guarantee that is why it didn't work out with them

>>129556953
Guitar is the lead, the melody and the main instrument on stage. No pressure.

I think I'm a drummer at heart, despite being a guitar/bass player..

>>129561089
There is lead and rhythm guitar, but if you're relying on them to set the beat you have much bigger issues.

>>129556953
I quite love some good drumming but most drumming isn't even needed in modern music. Woah dude you hit the same shit for four measures but did a generic little fill at the end you sure add to our band don't you

>>129556884
Try it and it is like a high. Guitar is more wanking with frets.

>>129562221
Every time I read your post, it appears dumber to me. I'm sorry my generation failed you with no child left behind when you could be in band or orchestra learning about the fundamentals.

>>129556902
the only other one i found to be as visceral is trombone. while you can make anything as abstract as you want, at the end of the day you're just blowing into a tube and moving a slide around. just like the drums you can but as little or as much strength into it and it will handle it and respond accordingly.
feeling the trombone vibrate in your hands and the hearing the crackling of the high harmonics when you blow very hard is the best shit ever. it's the only instrument that doesn't get drowned out by someone blasting on the drums.

>>129562221
>i only listen to not music

>>129556917
The last statistics I could find were 25 guitar players for every drummer. Generally, they act like the chick everyone wants to fuck. Most of them are shit players, too. A good, humble, sane, sober drummer is a special thing... but so is a unicorn.

>>129561039
I'm a Big Black and Godflesh fan. Come again?

>>129562728
Yeah I figured

>>129562728
Oh yeah. Forgot. Neil Peart. His type is rare.

>>129556884
Because there's impact on each note and you just feel it more. All that guitarists and bassists feel with their piddly little pussy sticks are the minimal fingertip impacts against the fretboards, which do not hit deep or hard enough to trigger the impactful, powerful, penetrating, explosive feelings that come to a drummer with with the pounding impact of every stick.
>t. drummer

>>129563157
lol. you cant even play melodies. is that even considered music? lmao.

>>129562158
I was about to post this too. I'm subscribed to a bunch of drum channels on YouTube, which is how I became a Gretsch fan and picked a favourite China cymbal (Paiste Novo 2002).
But then I realised I own a shitty pair of bongos that I haven't touched in over a year. Maybe I'm just an enthusiastic drum ally.

bump

>>129568442
Why

>>129563898
One of the reasons Foo Fighters are so great is because Dave Grohl decided to become a guitarist after Kurt Cobain blew his brains out. Their music was completely different because it was written by a drummer. If you aren't versatile, If you can't work with other musicians and don't understand their function, your career will be very short.

>>129568590
Dave already had experience being in bands before Nirvana, then made it big with Nirvana, Kurt killed himself, then he tried his hand at songwriting. Not every musician has a main project then a side project that becomes a main project that is as good as the one before. Usually side projects are trash.

>>129563898
Except I also play guitar, bass and keyboard so I've seen it from all sides in different bands. A band is only as good as its drummer. A song is only as good as the drummer wants it to be.

I wanna drum like Ringo

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>>129556884
I would not want to be a drummer. There's a ton of equipment to haul around, extensive setup and packup, and everyone tells you you're too loud.

>>129568627
In his previous bands, Dave played as a drummer. Exactly how fucking retarded are you to think guitars conduct any band?

>>129563128
lack of live drums are their biggest flaw

>>129568461
cuz drummer obvs

>>129563898
>doesnt know drummers can be melodic

>>129563128
i loved ted in godflesh. sad justin hated having a drummer

For me it's Tatsuya Yoshida
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31NdGz02hBo

>>129556884
how do drummers decide what to play like a fill, every time i listen to a song and focus on the drums i think of what i would play and it's never what they would do

>>129570259
Its not really a spontaneous decision, its usually just muscle memory from random fills/patterns they have already learnt or played in the past. Not the OP btw

>>129570259
Restraint is honestly like 90% of it. I could showboat over the entire song but if I think a chord or riff sounds better with a basic beat then I'll do that. Guitarists have no idea how much is in a drummer's control to make it work or not.

>>129570388
*Rock and metal guitarists

>>129570259
there a million ways to think about it.
and then a million ways to change it live in the moment. sure some dudes are muscle memory bros. other dudes are melodic/thematic phrase dudes that can embellish or reduce. other times its relying on sense of syncopation to vary a pattern. sometimes its purely sui generis depending on a persons taste, interest, and experience. sometime its becuae you want to pretend your trump filling a dirty diaper on stage. just doin some shit, y know?

>>129570259
a lot of instincts built up from practice and what the drummer listens to.

>>129556953
>You are also the foundation of every band.
>No pressure
No pressure, dude if you fuck up the rest of the band does

>>129556902
>>129556953
Piano can be kind of similar sometimes, it's similarly a "percussion" instrument that can take your whole body to play and you also can play many parts at the same time and feel like a whole band by yourself.

>>129557270
The drum kit literally evolved from percussion players trying to play the part of several percussionists at once to get easy gigs.

There's a long orchestral and military tradition of bass drums, snare drums and cymbals being considered different instruments that three (or more) different people would need to play.

The guitar didn't evolve from trying to replace six one-string instrument players.

>>129572397
There's a long orchestral and military tradition of different lengths of non-valved trumpets being considered different instruments that three (or more) different people would need to play.

Would the invention of the valve on a brass instrument all of a sudden mean a trumpeter is playing multiple instruments?

>>129556884
I would love to have space to put drums and practice. Klaus Schulze, ambient music mother fucker since the 70s, started out as a drummer, and a damn good one. He's said in an interview somewhere, I think it's one of the remasters of his early albums, that every musician should learn the drums in some fashion. Obviously many talented sons of guns were never drummers, but I think about his comment when I think about drum parts in Ableton Live sometimes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fqpc64kDv0&list=RD3fqpc64kDv0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxUycrXb6eQ
He was an absolute machine, and it does the world a shame that he only drummed 2 or 3 albums in his long career.

>>129556884
PRO TIP: when you learn an instrument, you're really learning two things:
• producing successive notes
• how place those successive notes in proper time

if take old school drum lessons for a year or so you'll have had a good introduction to timing, so you'll only have to learn one thing on your instrument: producing successive notes

-- and you don't need drums, just a practice pad and sticks ($50 or less)

>>129574274
literally just get a pad and a metronome and practice until you don't miss a beat

>>129570252
drummers with zero dynamics can get raped in hell