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Philosophical pondering edition
Previous: https: //boards.4chan.org/mu/thread/129878692
SCALES:
www.all-guitar-chords.com/scales
fretboard-navigator.com/
GIT GUD with GUITAR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg1L-sBIxnY&list=PLJwa8GA7pXCWAnIeTQyw _mvy1L7ryxxPH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QCt3UBTS1Y
ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND GUITAR PDF: web.archive.org/web/20251212114818if_/https://files.catbox.moe/qafrab.
EAR TRAINING:
tonedear.com
www.tonegym.co/exercise/
BACKING TRACK GENERATOR:
www.onemotion.com/chord-player/
www.musicca.com/chord-player/
DRONE TOOL TO PRACTICE SCALES BY EAR:
www.dronetonetool.com/
METRONOME:
scottsbasslessons.com/groove-trainer
www.onemotion.com/drum-machine/
RANDOM NOTE GENERATOR FOR FRETBOARD MEMORIZATION:
www.therandomscalemachine.com/index.html
random.bretpimentel.com/
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>>129920911
Only 2
1 strat 1 ibanez
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GIBSONSISTERS WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
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Am I going to strip this screw if my jack is too tight and needs to be pulled out pretty hard?
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>>129920832
I've had the opposite experience so far. Haven't had much success on guitar when I practiced it but I've been doing scales every day on guitar then switching to bass.
>>129920842
This sounds good. I think you're going to make it.
>>129920854
That's also a big issue with work. If i want to learn multiple instruments but don't have time to practice 1 a day I would prefer sticking to my main instrument.
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how they got away with this gigback?
in anime, it's ibanez branded
here they made a custom one just for this model
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Can someone explain the second chord to me, the Eb aug (b9 #9)? That finger pattern doesn't even contain a Eb note (guy is using a capo on the 6th fret so the 6 on the A string is a 12)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXa1yZGaF38
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>>129920970
>going to make it
thanks man, it really doesn’t feel that way with chords for me at times. I see a lot of guitarists say they just practice chord transitions for 10 mins a day and they’ve got it mastered in like a month. maybe they’re overstating their real abilities but it’s more like 4-6 months for me. lead has been no issue but it doesn’t feel right to have such a large disparity between the two
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>>129920991
the 6th fret of the A string is an Eb. guitarists do this weird thing where they don’t acknowledge the key change when using a capo and it drives me crazy. no wonder so many of them don’t understand theory or know their fretboard; they’re being sabotaged by their own educators
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>>129920979
It's not really anything new, they'd always come out with anime branded merch even if those characters used industry standard equipment
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>see posts about burgundy mist
>not my favorite finish but don’t hate it, wouldn’t be in top ten favorite finishes though
>want a specific model Stratocaster, preferably white but not picky
>normally sell $2k-$2.5k
>new listing, 2 hours old, already in multiple carts
>exact model Strat I want in great condition
>$1500, $500 to $1000 less than what they usually go for
>but it’s burgundy mist
>apparently a rare finish for the model that they only did a few hundred of in only one year, unlike various standard finishes that got half a decade of production
>screw it, too good a deal for the exact model I want
>I’m after the specs, not the finish
>anon posting about burgundy mist prophesied about me finding this guitar
At least burgundy mist guitar is a free ticket for blackface as long as I wear a spiffy suit I guess
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>>129921011
OH MY GOD MY FUCKING BRAINFART
You're right, thank you
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>>129921031
Literally me havin a dream one week after I get the guitar
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>>129921036
I was looking at some Japanese ones but I wanted a vintage style neck with a fat profile and most sellers don’t give you that information and I didn’t want to ask a ton of people questions about it. US 1965 reissues are basically unanimously known for having fatter necks than the reissues of previous years so I focused on that reissue year. Basically there’s the current production AVII line or the AVI line from a decade ago, and of those I wasn’t picky but this AVI’s price is what won me
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>>129921012
i know but there is legit ibanez gigbag and they just made their own version of it lol
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>>129921124
hot take I love a high quality gig bag more than a hard case
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>>129921054
you are getting a time machine and going back to 1966 to play with Louis Jordan?
As much as I love Louie Jordan. if you are going back to 1966 I'd suggest you look into that rock and roll stuff thekids are playing.
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can anyone in the thread solo over this beginner-friendly backing track? most jazz musicians will learn this in year 2 or 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKKj0v82EpM
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>>129921216
same methodology for walking basslines. I mean there’s really only so many things you can do: pedal, chord tones, scalar approach, chromatic approach, scalar and chromatic ascension/descension. they all work and form the basis, but the mastery is weaving them in a way that creates movement and “tells a story.” I have 4 books on walking basslines and they all have the exact same information :(
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>>129921256
that’s pretty true, there is a lot more room for bass movement that most people believe. I find that you should at least establish the true root once every two bars or the harmonic center really falls apart
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>THERE IS EPIPHONE TOO
ho lee fuk
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>>129921216
that's what I thought
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Anything I can do as a bassist to help lead my guitarist better in jams? I'm not 100% sure what they mean by that. When we play i don't play any particular progression. I just play notes in the key in no particular order. I usually try to end the 4th beat on the 7th or 2nd since they add tension when returning home. I'll usually go root 5th 3rd root. But I can't seem to find a good way of exploring while jamming with my ear being unable to pick up on what my guitarist is doing.
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>>129921564
Split your measures right before the chord changes into two halves of two beats or whatever you play. Play your riff/melody in the first two beats and use the last two beats to steadily walk to the next root note. I’m guessing your guitarist is completely relying on you to remember the song which is wrong. But you can still lob your band softballs and play creatively. Before BBA has another fit about James Jamerson you can just study some of his lines. He literally covers everything you need to know about modern bass playing except complex time signatures
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>>129921662
Also if you’re just playing random stuff you have to look at playing the bass as whatever you are doing, the laws of nature are going to feel like the song is going to automatically resolve itself on beat 1 every two bars. If you don’t go back to the root at that point it changes the tonal center to the listeners ear and it feels like a key change. I’ve been playing for 4 years. I can do whatever I want every two bars but I have not found a way to go 3 without fucking up the song
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y4GBQwTpUYg
Does anyone know if the chorus progression that starts around the 2:00 has a name? I swear I've heard that sound a bunch before and that is something i feel I could learn and bring to my jams.
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Yeah we improv without a song. It's fully just make it up on the spot and find something that works. Moving to a new key without saying it out loud is another thing I'm not sure how to do. I have a book on walking bass lines i started yesterday so hopefully it'll explain a bit more of the walking concept.
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Zoomers wilding out…
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>>129921722
there’s going to be a difficulty curve if you don’t verbalize the key change. the easiest way to do it is play eight notes and walk up in an incredibly linear way. say you are working on going from 1 to 4: R R, 2 2, b3 b3, 3 3, then you arrive at 4 on your downbeat. that’s the easiest you can make it without verbalizing it. In the meantime I would work on condensing what you are playing into one and two-bar phrases that repeat themselves periodically. Walking over a single chord will seem very repetitive and riff-based, there’s no getting around it. Walking is great for getting used to the sound of bass movement and getting used to the fretboard and chord changes, but there are still so many notes you can play that it doesn’t mean your band will be able to follow you along to an improvised progression. Bass is great and fun but it dictates the entire harmony for the rest of the ensemble so keep in mind that you need to provide some form of stability and familiarity for your band mates.
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Any anons got any advice to introducing kids to the guitar?
My nephew is turning six in one month and he says he wants a guitar like me. Whenever he comes around my house he always wants to play my guitar and I try to teach him but his hands are still too small and puny. He also doesn't have parents who are in any way musical, they don't even listen to guitar music but he seems keen but of course children are scatterbrained and have a million distractions these days beyond sitting down and practicing an instrument.
I was thinking about getting him a lyre harp and teaching him really simple songs that are applicaple for a child like nursery rymes and shit but i'm wondering if anons have a better clue than me
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>>129921888
If he wants a guitar, get him a guitar. I feel like anything else would be disappointing. Maybe a fender nylon (Fa-25n) or some other 3/4 acoustic. Both affordable and smaller than normal so it'll be easier for him.
Loog if you want something specifically meant for kids, but theyre a bit pricey for what they are. It may encourage him to learn more though. 3 strings are less daunting than 6.
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>>129921952
True, but buying a $500 guitar for a 6 year old is a bit silly. But hey if he takes care of his stuff, I guess it's worth it, he'll have something of quality.
I just know me at 6 would have accidentally destroyed it somehow.
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>>129921952
Absolutely no fucking way am I buying a six year old a baby fucking taylor
He needs to prove to me first he is motivated before I spend anything more than £50 on him. Hence why i'm looking at a lyre harp instead, because he can learn songs quicker and enjoy playing music. I have no idea if a six year old in this day and age had the patience to go through the early pain of learning chords and shit
This is why i'm wondering if any anons have done the same because i'm wondering how to approach a childs sensibility
I also have my own first guitars that I got when I was a kid. a 3/4 acoustic and a half size electric which I plan to give him when the time is right
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>>129922386
not a bad idea…
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Classic shapes with the wrong pickups
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Amazon really knows me, I can't play without diecast tuners and an adjustable truss rod.
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>>129922845
Yamaha or Eastman. bear in mind Yamahas specs are Yamaha, their dreadnought are damn near all the same size shape and string spacing. If you want something with Martin specs on a budget you’ll need to Eastman but if you don’t care I’d get a Yamaha and call it a day.
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>>129922912
songwriter has the same scale length as the martin so they sound a lot closer. I think the martin is a little warmer sounding but I think the songwriter looks really cool. if it’s a cutaway songwriter I’d get the martin. if you do get the martin put monel strings on it.
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>>129922935
I’m not going to meet up with two random people from Facebook just to try their guitars and tell them maybe I’ll get back to them.
>>129922949
Why not the cutaway?
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>start every day with major/minor pentatonic and regular guitar scales
>only play bass the rest of day
>try to get walking down
>get to 100 songs learned on bass
If i don't start playing my G&L it'll collect dust. Next month I'm not going to touch my bass though. It's all guitar. I'm stealing anons idea but in May I'll focus on guitar. I'm very close to a breakthrough on bass so I feel focusing on bass till it happens this month will be good. At about 66 songs learned
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>>129923153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsLesPLnbyI
cutaways sound better
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since i started playing guitar, my elders recommended i always wipe the strings with a cloth after playing
i understand the logic is you get some of that acidic finger grease your body produces off them, but is it even a difference? sounds like penny pinching for strings idk
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>>129923355
it's partly due to corrosion
partly due to finger gunge accumulation muting the string as >>129923366 said.
gunge can be wiped off, but the rate of corrosion depends on genetics and diet just as much as how often you clean the strings. I use coated strings and they last way longer because my sweat rots some metals
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>>129923430
if i play a lot im gonna need a monthly change of strings or so anyway, i dont think that will change much regardless, but it may help
i could wipe from underneath the strings too, just pass the rag across under the strings
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>>129923517
It's more just getting a feel for how the strings react to your sweat, and the brand's corrosion resistance. Might not be a big deal long term either way. coated strings last me 2-3 months tho.
>>129923582
go lift weights so you build up calluses and finger pad fat. "bony fingers" only is an issue if you have never worked a day in your life and have thin skinned girly fingers
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>>129923961
welcome aboard
>>129924036
you’ll get there someday
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>>129922525
Dropped tunings require heavier strings on acoustic (Kottke tuned down a major 3rd below standard).
Also, if you play slide, choose a guitar with higher action. Slide is difficult on an electric with 9s, but easier with 11s.
>>129922596
be funnier
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You Wouldn't Download An Amp
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>>129924344
>5 mins of vocalizing scales or playing a melody in my head as a warmup
>deep learning and assimilation of songs by the people that inspire my playing 1-2 hours
>20 mins of jamming along to random song playlist (ear training)
I practice technique when I am bored and night and just have my guitar in my lap. just getting mindless reps in
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Might as well have all 3 (ignore the bass)
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>>129924080
What does a J bass have that a P bass doesnt?
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>>129924344
>pick up bass
>play along to 3 or 4 songs I know for warm up ~25 mins
>maybe do scales ~10 minutes
>try to focus on book work then get bored ~15 mins
>try to learn some new songs ~ 1 hour
>randomly jam along to drum track ~15 minutes
I will probably extend the learn new songs to hour and a half. I would say majority of my practice time is spent on learning new songs vs fundamentals or shit that really helps but I LOVE fucking playing along to songs I've been listening to for years. The jamming with the drums track is probably the most helpful
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>>129924503
I will look into it. I might just get another P bass and drop tune that but I think of i drop tune a J bass that could be cool
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>>129924658
break the song down into segments, typically phrases. learn the intervals, what chord they’re being played over, why it works, why they played it etc, learn the rhythm so I can mess with the rhythm or play other intervals with the same rhythm to see how it sounds. I take everything good and turn it into licks, to put it into layman’s terms, but in a way where I can transpose them into different keys and rhythmic sequences. it’s nothing crazy but goes beyond just learning and rehearsing the song
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I literally never actually practice guitar. I've been playing since 8 and all i've ever done is noodle. I had a couple guitar lessons as a kid, was taught the chords and how to read tab and then I was like thats enough, I know all I need to know and stopped going and ever since i've just noodled.
I never even realised it until recently too, i've been playing for 20 years, very passionately and I could be a real solid professional but I just never gave a shit. My skill level could probaly be achieved in like a year or two by someone dedicated to learning. I learn a new thing every few years and then just play with whatever sounds good to me.
Anyone else like this?
I'm not that good, but I still play like every day, just making up my own little melodies
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Kill, fuck, marry, and why?
Justify yourself
GO!
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>>129924247
I don’t watch gay shit, but you seem to be familiar
>do you have any other gay suggestions
>>129924252
thank you for your contribution
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>>129924344
i practice at least 3 times a week for at least 2 hours. i usually comp into a looper and play over that trying to be mindful of things i've recently learned and am trying to integrate into my playing
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FMK?
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I also got a 44 the round before this. its a pretty fun ear game. have you guys ever tried
My sound memory is a 37.9/50.
https://dialed.gg/sound?c=VXYVSG
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>>129925377
48.6/50. I can hear a fly blink. Your turn.
https://dialed.gg/sound?c=UXEF4K
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>>129925794
Attack the message not the messenger.
>>129925802
I disagree. Very rude post, very rude person.
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>>129925825
If your hands can't convert what your mind is thinking you need to practice more.
https://voca.ro/17bftmadLmP9
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i haven't received any message that my guitar has been repaired. they said it'd be completed in 3-4 days but i brought the guitar to them almost a week ago
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>>129921888
Get a nice folk guitar with nylon strings. This will make sure they don’t hurt their young hands, but they can still approximate real stuff.
The real lesson is that he looks up to you and emulates you, so keep up the drip feeding lessons. As he progresses, you can be like, “okay, now you can learn x because your hands and arms can reach it.”
The First Act guitars may sound like a shit proposition but they are short scale, cheap, and I know the basses have flat wounds. What you should REALLY teach him is how to put the guitar on the stand or in a case. Kids love rituals and you can see if the guitar has snot or scratches on it. Dont make a big deal about it, but tell him/her/xir that respecting your instrument is one crucial aspect of learning the craft.
I taught my neighborhood kids how to play instruments and they picked it up quick. They learned on guitar and piano, and my neighbor kid would bring his trombone to play rudimentary parts at like 9am on a Saturday morning.
Don’t let him down.
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>>129926227
hush looshbot
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>>129926181
you just need to listen to good shit for inspiration
>or just give it to me
https://youtu.be/iP5lu5RnrtM?si=wlJKvmpHQfCO10nY
>play until a bitch holds an umbrella for you
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>>129926181
Stop buying shitty guitars then. Get one good one that can do both and sound great doing both.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGgxIdY9z4Q&list=RDaGgxIdY9z4Q&start_r adio=1
PS, I wish I could play fingerstyle like this motherfucker...
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>>129926385
>get this guitar with the base price $1.5k already
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>>129926385
How do youtube playlists work? This playlist in the link has some videos the same as mine, that it's scary. Like cover artists and such with lower views
list=RDaGgxIdY9z4Q&start_radio=1
Are they tailored to the individual even when the list name is unique with what looks to be 16 characters?
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>>129926513
I'm not too sure about the Google wizardry going on. Their job is to stalk all of us. I guess that's why I use ad blockers on my desktop/lappy and browsers with built in blockers on my phone. Google is evil but so is everyone else...
Somehow they're sniffing your cookies like pervs.
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This is another cool guitar but it's not really the guitar itself, it's they Hyvibe computer preamp that is the cool part. You can actually order the HyVibe separately and get it installed into your own acoustic of your choice. It's just a surgery I wouldn't DIY for fear of completely fucking your guitar...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFTZBErh60A
It's a pretty cool demo, watch the whole thing.
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>>129926680
Work on your picking. You also seem to be cycling through licks (you start in the same beat for runs), and you fucked up at :17 and :21, not to mention later (especially when you run out of ideas).
Thank you for your contribution (and keeping it short)
> +0 loosh earned this round
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Good evening /gg/
Is there a buyer's guide for electric guitars? I am am looking for the most maximum budget guitar that doesn't compromise on being more guitar than toy - additionally I won't be able to use a traditional outlet powered amp as I will soon be on an indefinite road trip (homeless but with a car), and have my eye on a AA or USB rechargeable battery powered headphone guitar amp, like the Valeton Rushead Max - also open to suggestions there.
I don't know much of anything about musical instruments but I do like metal music, and have a lot of time on my hands now to learn.
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>>129926609
Now combine this with AI so you can just tell it to give you the tone of SRV or ZZ Top or whomever you like and it can instantly emulate their tone on the fly. But all the wizardry in the world won't help you with effects/tone/loops etc if you can't already play (pick or fingerpick). I think AI will somehow get baked into these gadgets eventually somehow. I'd bet on it.
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>>129926742
>didn’t listen
it’s gonna take you a couple of hours with a metronome, so just wait until you do that until you foist this on us
Listen to great guitarists versus living in a cynical space
>you’re hurting
>we’re hurting
>even a slime feels pain
But yeah, metronome. I can hear the amateur cynicism in your playing
>what will they think of this
I dunno, listen to Fripp. Don’t play, listen:
https://youtu.be/lPutToA0ZHs
I know you want the last word or pretend that you don’t
>relent
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>>129926724
>cycling thru licks
>blues
thanks for the input chief
https://voca.ro/1d21iUex4VnV
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>>129926746
Just get a pignose amp. It can be battery powered or plugged into an inverter in your car for traditional power. I'm assuming your outlet is North American? I actually have no idea if they make Pignose portable amps with Euro plugs. I suppose I could look that up...but so can you.
They're cool little amps. I have one. You can daisy chain the pignose to a bigger amp too for crazy distortion and sounds you just can't get otherwise.
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>>129926777
i just kinda want to play guitar and post vocas you seem to add the context yourself
https://voca.ro/1e32hVPKZQrJ
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>>129926828
Yep I'm heading north like many before me for a slightly cooler summer and to live that Nashville dream
Appreciate the recc, if I can budget right I might get both because I don't wanna wear headphones all the time but I also might wanna stealth play at night in a parking lot
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>>129926828
I had no idea they made pignose travel guitars too. Crazy!
I just like the amps. They're tiny but mighty and portable.
I have the 7-100 model. Not very expensive but not China cheap.
https://pignoseamps.com/products/
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>>129926875
>living in your car in nashville
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>>129926838
Nah you got a shit attitude, which seems to stem from a lack of self esteem (hence the half-baked vocas). Rather than have a tantrum (what, did you want feedback?), I offer THE WOODSHED
>go post free for a month
>see if your mental health improves
We’re all rooting for you unironically
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>>129926875
Cool man. I wish you the best in your journey.
I posted earlier on that Cole Clark true hybrid. It is probably a bit out of budget to start with but maybe something to look towards in the future. Scroll up and find my post on it and watch the demo video. It's like a 2 in 1 guitar both acoustic and electric.
I mean it's one instrument that plays like an acoustic and is also electric so it's a 2 in 1 bang for the buck. I dunno. It gives you serious versatility and it takes up little room compared to two separate instruments. Just an idea.
Otherwise any Strat electric is a good bet. A Squire is the cheapest. Lots of guys on here can tell you more about them than I can. Coupled with some kind of effects processor that can be battery powered. Mine can, I just can't remember what it's called off the top of my head. Go on Aliexpress and see what kind of effects processors they have. The Pignose and a battery operated effects processor will give you crazy versatility combined with any guitar you choose and can afford. That's how I'd personally go. You have to think busker (street corner performer) like...but with minimal gear/space.
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Oh and I can plug a headphone jack into my effects processor via a 2 in 1 headphone splitter and a guitar jack adapter. It's pretty nifty. This means I can be fully electric with an infinite amount of effects all via headphone jack or unplug that and into any amp I want.
So there are really 3 things to look at. 1) The guitar, 2) The amp 3) The effects processor. And any cables you would need to connect it all together.
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>>129925221
Always lurking
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>>129926746
You can plug into your stereo system like an amp. Look for TRS to USB or 1/8” aux headphone connection and voila, your car is an amp (yes it will feedback)
>no it won’t sound good
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>>129926909
Thanks bro. I expect a lot if mental head cases to air their transmuted grief on everyone until they get 86’d. Sad, and expect more but it’s best to help our brothers who’ve lost the way
>or, I dunno go the Hellraiser path
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>>129927255
>lol
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>>129927286
it’s okay, let it out
I listen to this visceral jam when I feel lost like you:
https://youtu.be/GRYCXzZ_YkI
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>>129927312
>I can’t listen to those in pain
It’s too much
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nobody forcing u 2 click my guy
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are noiseless pickups good yet?
i like the sound of my strat on the bridge pickup but theres just too much hum when i start doing high gain palm mute stuff plugged into my 2i2. sometimes theres like a volume swell of noise thats kinda annoying too
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I've learned the major and minor scale patterns (5 each for each root position). Now I'm learning the major pentatonic and I'm having trouble memorizing it all.
Of course the pentatonic is the same as the major, but without certain intervals. Still, it requires memorizaton so I don't have to consciously think about it while playing.
My practice routine has already tripled.
>5 minutes to play through the major positions
>5 minutes to play through the minor positions
>5 minutes to play through the major pentatonic
I've looked through the book and my "revising" routine will be 60 minutes long eventually.
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>entertain people irl
>get applause and cheers
>compliments from around the bar
>recognition from other musicians some professional level
>post on /gg/
>get told i suck
https://voca.ro/1iOd7pbN5Q4m
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>>129929023
I think you sound pretty good anon.
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>>129929354
Definitely start with songs. I would say these things in order
>Tuning (very important, you won't have fun with a guitar if it's a badly tuned one)
>Beginner traps and bad habits you should avoid
>Chord shapes
>Chord progressions (so songs)
I personally started with theory, but for a beginner, learning songs is the right way to go. For many people it's even enough, if you only want to play around a campfire
About 6 months in, if you're into it, you should learn theory and get rid of some bad shorthands that educators use like >>129920991
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>>129929389
Thank you.
Should I also invest into a clip on tuner or would a phone app suffice? And what about a capo, is that something that I should get right away too? One of the artists I like (Colter Wall) uses it quite a lot, but he plays an acoustic/acoustic electric mostly, and I don't know how a capo translates to an electric.
So far what I've ordered is: a Yamaha Pacifica 120H; a Fender Mustang 25LT; a cable; a few different picks and a stand.
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>>129929388
One thing that would help in your place is learning that it's intervals that matter and not the exact notes
OK do this exercise. Make an E major barre chord shape (I'm assuming you understand what this means, it's basically the F major chord shape, moveable around on the frets. When your index finger is on 1, it's the F major chord, if it's on 2, it's the F# major chord, if it's on 0, it's the E major)
Now put the index finger with your barre chord shape on the following frets and strum once for each number
0 7 5 4
1 8 6 5
2 9 7 6
3 10 8 7
Do you notice how despite the exact notes being different, the chord progressions "sound" the same? It's not the exact notes that are the same but the intervals (+7 frets, - 2 frets, -1 fret) and the quality (all major in this example but you can try it with minor shapes, power chord shapes, etc)
This is one fundamental idea of music theory
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>>129929423
For tuning I recommend something really, I wouldn't say weird, but, well, just try it
Use this youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tODGpdQehrU) to tune the lowest E, the thickest string. What you want to do is put this video on loop, turn the peg until the two notes harmonize, that is to say both notes are the same, you can tell one is from piano, the other is from guitar, but otherwise, they're the same (it's a hard concept to communicate over text)
Then once that is done, try to harmonize the E and the A. This happens at the 5th fret.
So press the E string at the 5th fret, turn the A until they harmonize
Then press the A string at the 5th fret, turning the D
Same for the D to G
Now for the G to B, don't do it at the 5th fret but rather the 4th fret (only exception)
Finally, B to E, do it at the 5th fret again
This is step 1 to ear training. You have to know whether you're higher or lower than your reference pitch, and turn the tuning peg according to that
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>>129929436
Ok, I'll have to look into that when I'm not laying in bed. I'm probably on the right track.
The intervals/mode section of AUG goes over my head but I'll try to continue to learn how shapes, modes and keys work
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>>129929388
Learn The White Album by The Beatles. Every song is easy to figure out and functions as lesson in and of itself.
>examples
“Dear Prudence” - Drop D, descending bass figures
“Blackbird” - Tenths, fingerpicking, modal interchange and chromaticism
“Helter Skelter” - common 1 b3 4 progression, Dorian and mixolydian scales
“Rocky Raccoon” - cowboy chords
“Revolution #9” - musique concrète, recognizing bullshit
>and so on
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>The former manufacturing company, established as "V. C. Squier Company" was founded in 1890 by Victor Carroll Squier in Battle Creek, Michigan, producing strings for violins, banjos, and guitars. In 1965, the company was acquired by Fender.
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>>129907437
Nice track, inspired me to wank on it
https://voca.ro/1gl0bKBpBsNW
>>129921164
>beginner-friendly backing track
lolol I know this is facetious bait but I'll bite. Here's my posted attempt after hours of retake and it's still shite. I had to stop doing the head at the beginning and just put it at the end as I was getting tired of redoing the head after all the retakes. Reminds me of wanting to kms after learning it during the scamdemic for 2 months and forgetting it after lol
https://voca.ro/1efcPwEHiZnL
Can you play it?
>>129929023
Nice. For what it's worth I don't think you suck. Also anyone can say and larp as anything here in 4chinz without much consequence (barring direct government intervention)
>>129930098
Old Jap copies (Greco, Burny and such) were held in high regard back then as there wasn't a wide variety of options for cheaper guitars compared to their MIA originals. Dunno how much that applies Fender/Squier Jap stuff. I tried an old 90s jap squier a decade back and it was just alright and needed some fretwork, didn't blow me away. You should try it first if you like it and if it's in decent condition. Otherwise there should be "better" options specwise these days from other Asian sweatshops for the price.
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>>129930098
They're about on par with Mex made. Higher quality than modern low end squiers. If it's in good shape and was maintained decently that's not too crazy of a price. Some Crate amps aren't terrible either, I've had some with great clean tone, and reasonably good enough distortion channels.
Could always flip the amp to recoup a couple bucks too if it's not beat to shit.
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>>129930286
It’s in decent shape, it’s a B series which apparently predates the E series everyone talks about. It might have an alder body, it might not. The Squier logo is peeled off in an attempt to hide its a Squier I guess? Pickguard definitely isn’t original. The Crate amp I’d never use. I don’t need another Stratocaster but if it’s a good deal it might me worth picking up to potentially flip I guess.
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>>129930288
Thanks, appreciate it. Now if there was only a house band that would let me stop and start and retake from the opening set til the bar closes.. kek
6 years back I learned Coltrane's solo but I couldn't even imagine improvising on it as it was too beyond me. Now I'm too lazy (and pissed at forgetting it) to relearn it but at least there's some baby steps in progress.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musique_concr%C3%A8te
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>go to jam night at guitar store
>introducing myself to the people who have been going there for long time
>they ask who my favorite guitarists are
>they scoff when it isn’t some turbometal shredder or some boring old blues boomer bender
Why are 90% of guitarists like this? Boring old blues and fast and flashy shredding are the only “acceptable” guitar styles for those big ego players. If you’re not interested in those two styles of playing you’re inferior to them. It’s really annoying.
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>>129930921
>go to jam night at guitar store
that's where you fucked up. Find a bassist and a drummer, make a weird anything-gaze-dream-core-post-gypsy-jazz-bedroom-pop-garage band, play local shows PWYC on week-nights to 15 people, and you'll have so much more fun, unironically, than going to a group jerk off session with dentists and radiologists.
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>>129930921
I always notice this even as a bassist. I don't even have a favorite and if I had to choose one it would probably be vern from unwound. I say this every time and boomers especially always say, "you need to listen to X or Y album." 9 times out of 10 I already have. They really don't understand not liking everything mainstream
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>>129930939
I don’t have many friends who play music and was hoping to just find someone to jam with.
>>129930978
Pretty generic names, not even revealing my true power level of people they've probably never heard of. I told them Dave Davies, Dick Dale and Mike Campbell, three pretty generic normal names as far as guitar goes but since they’re not Shredmaster Count Fetusfucker von Cumstain or our lord and savior Eric Clapton (pbuh) they’re not “real” guitarists and not good enough to be favorites.
>>129930989
It’s just annoying. I don’t care who your favorite is. If I like him cool, we have that in common. If I don’t cool, I don’t care. Let’s just play together and see if we click and get something going. But no we have to have identical tastes in music in order for to be worthy.
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>>129931051
>don't have many friends who play music
where did I say you had to be friends? Put up a flyer saying "I'm making a shoegaze band" or "I'm making a garage rock surf band" or whatever and I fucking guarantee you'll find people to play music with.
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>>129931051
Remember back in the days when boomers were our age, that is how bands were formed.
>do you listen to X band
>no but do you like Y band?
>I love Y band do you know song Z?
>yes! I play song Z all the time
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The former is an early 20th century technique of mixing found sounds (like prerecorded tapes) and creating pieces based off of this. It’s bullshit because it typically is formless or not very appealing (at least the early examples - one could argue it evolved into sampling, Plunderphonics, Negavtivland, et al). That being said, its inclusion seems like an afterthought to be edgy, or to take up 8:22 of an album side because there weren’t any more songs.
>Zappa did it far better and more entertaining, like making it musical theatre about fucking roadies or interstitial palate cleansers between tunes
>the slime had a near mental break at 17 attempting to understand John Cage, John Zorn, Stockhausen, Schoenberg, Webern, et al.
It’s a musical lesson that shows a piece’s form tends to be necessary to convey meaning.
>but it’s lack of meaning, slime
Yeah it’s a pretty ballsy move but just plays into the Mystique of John Lennon. It could’ve been 2 minutes and would’ve accomplished the same thing.
I’m glad you’re asking on a forum, not just researching endlessly. When I was young, I made it a musicians goal of competency. Once you listen to the “hits”, you start to explore weirder and more divisive stuff. In the classical tradition, minimalism seems to be the end zone. Outsider music (Wesley Willis, “Songs in the key of Z”) is the same way -> tends to sputter out into noise music or weird shit like dudes playing nothing but extended techniques.
There are exceptions, like Terry Riley or Glenn Branca
>see pic rel, sry had to censor out slime jr
>inb4 muh ego
Don’t make me astral project into your moms underwear
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The guy(s) above you cared.
>why are you giving me W’s this early in the morning?
The slime is at the NY/MA border. Arthoes are gradually appearing in The Berkshires and I enter the domain on Saturday.
>time to start bringing the guitar to the parks to find some hunnies
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my favorite guitarist is jonny cash
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Pic rel
>if you could read music, you’d get the “hidden” joke at your expense
>>129931169
Nah, crazy train solo takes shit to a new level
>opinion disregarded
>>129931174
I have access to my guitar and I just sued my landlord for $13,500 + pain and suffering. I’m WFH on a $2,000/week work project from this chill hotel after escaping Owego, NY’s meth hotel.
Tmrw should be good weather, so I’ll try to come up with some acoustic shred beds to summon the shredder
>oh the “shitposting retard”
I said shredder not homosexual looshharvester
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Check out a Stream Deck if you do guitar-oriented DAW stuff (see next pic) Here’s my Ableton stream deck setup and I’ve been planning some new macros.
>less hotkeys to remember
>automatically opens when you select a program
>trigger multi actions on a timer while I’m playing or recording practice sessions.
>has a randomizing feature via variables if you just want to swap effects or samples you’d normally not use, like ring modulation or salsa claves
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>>129931482
If anyone has one, I can give you my macros written in the editor or through AutoHotKey
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>>129931515
Like, the big headstock and the 3-bolt neck plates are lowkey goofy as hell but in like an endearing way
A strat like this would deadass be like a forever guitar
https://reverb.com/item/95067530-fender-hardtail-stratocaster-with-ros ewood-fretboard-1979-sunburst
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>guitar-oriented DAW stuff
i will kill myself before i involve my desktop computer with my music. half the reason i got back into music was to unglue myself from my office chair. it's the OP1 by teenage engineering for me
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>>129931093
Thanks. Yeah, I know and appreciate they cared.
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>e-f-e, d-f-e
I don't get it
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>>129932218
yea i didn't mean when did you stop being a student, just when did your guitar playing stop being exclusively routine practice. for me it took maybe 3-4 months and getting a couple tunes down since i told my teacher day one my goal was improvising
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depends on your trajectory and goals. the average person will waste their first year or two in a program that isn’t very effective or waste months learning written theory. if your goal is to strum 4 chord songs you can do that in a month or two. if your goal is to play SRV songs you can jump right in and do that in 6-12 months. I took your question from the perspective of when are you good enough to stop practicing. but the truth is you never do in a sense
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same reason you want the looper in the effects loop, at least if you have more than one channel. if the looper is in front, then you change channels and your loop sounds different. once i have a loop going I don't want it to change
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Samefag
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im about to finish the first hal leonard bass method book should i start taking some real-life lessons too or just keep going with the book? ive never felt this motivated to practice before ive been having a fuck ton of fun recently
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Good thread guys but looks like I got the last post
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>>129932642
I think you should look into some Truefire video courses. If you use Yandex you will come up with a lot. However, a teacher is always a good thing if they're decent. They can correct bad habits and offer you tips and feedback on your playing that you didn't realize needed doing. Your motivation is great though but seriously, look up some teaching videos from some really good players. You can pick up things visually quickly that a book simply can't teach without pages of text.
https://truefire.com/learning-paths/bass-guitar-learning-path/a14