>>2062179
Wait till you try to downshift the front deraileur.

>>2062183
there are some really stupidly steep roads in my city and even on those i dont go to 1st and 1st. it feels like the bike doesnt even move even though my legs are churning the cranks a billion rpm

>>2062186
When I was a kid my first "real" bike was a trek 820 with a shimano "megarange" 3x7 which had an absurdly short first gear, I called it the wheelie gear but really the reason was so short I think its only real purpose is for fully loaded touring going up a steep mountain

>>2062187
yeah at that point i just get off and walk. it's literally faster AND easier

>>2062179
Its incredible how hard this is for normal people to grasp. My girlfriend never understood that, bless her heart. Or that special forces dude who thinks its a better workout to stay in high gear

>>2062190
Depends on the load really. A steep enough hill, a tent, 2 days of food, some tools, and that’s enough weight to really dampen your spirits walking

>>2062179
>climb 18%-20% slope
>put 42 in rear 30 in front
>it's still hard while barely moving

wow my home rides can suck

>>2062179
>>2062192
Did you (or anon's girlfriend) never have driven a car? Or learned about transmissions at least?

winning move, when you see a hill, is to turn back

>>2062202
Literally and unironically no

>>2062206
Low gear = lower speed = higher torque = easier to move from a stop
High gear = higher speed = lower torque = harder to move from a stop

>>2062202
Most people under 50 think driving a manual car is some kind of dark sorcery to be listed on your linkedin like it's a phd in math

>>2062246
>vtec
Lol, I used to have one of those when I had a cage. Fun times. I think if you own a car past the age of 20 you should be questioning your life choices. Like who are you larping as? Ahmed the uber driver? Lol!

>>2062198
put that shit on the bike itself and use the bike like a cart you retard

>hurr im gonna get a 120l backpack that needs a fucking tubular steel frame to hold it together
>but a pannier on my bike omg that would increase the weight too much, muh performance!!
hate you people so much

>>2062204
if you try to use bike gears like a car transmission it sucks ass. on top of just being generally unnecessary, you need a fair bit of speed to get a derailleur to work. it's easier to just stand on the pedals from a stop and use the gears like range/overdrive settings work in a car then trying muh left foot braking type shit

i swear, 99% of this board has never actually ridden a bike for any longer than it takes to make an instagram post

>>2062263
The dunning kruger in this post is intense, did you used to trip as sieg on /fa/?

>>2062263
None of what you said applies to the posts you replied to, this may be the worst post of 2025.

>>2062183
>struggled with underground crossing ramps on my 1x bike, had to time switching from 7 to 1 exactly to getting onto the ramp to not spin, and it's still not enough
>got a bike with 44-22 front
>just get onto the ramp with some speed, haphazardly toss it into low, fly up the ramp and quickly get it back to the big boy gear at the top
wide range doubles are fucking magic

>>2062263
That last part of your post can be provably extrapolated to every board
I'd wager only 10, maybe even 5% of a boards users actually engage in said hobby

>>2062202
Nope most people here drive automatics. Infact when it snows no one knows you can downshift the gearbox, its sad

>>2062263
It was very brave of you to make a post like that, everyone opinion of you has certainly changed

>>2062281
word

>>2062186
I have one of those at my local trails, tops out at 23%, 34tx52t and lowered tire pressure but still spin out on the loose stuff... just end up pushing the bike up hill for a mile

>>2062377
spinning has nothing to do with the gears dumbass. if you chose a gear so low, the torque will be increased at the wheel and you'll spin MORE. dumbass.

>>2062179
slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

>>2062424
That's what my flight instructor would say.

>>2062406
lol im on dirt so it really doesn't matter you fucking faggot. You cant keep spinning over all the rocks and obstacles anyway or you will clip a pedal on root or a rock.
Roadies really are shitty people who deserve to die in traffic.
and I made a small mistake I actually have 30x52t

>>2062514
t. fat chairlift princess who spends 10 hours driving and buying lift tickets for every 30 seconds on a bike

>>2062183
I never fuck with front deraileurs unless it's on a mountain bike. All me road bikes are just rear 7 speeds

>>2062240
While it's not difficult to learn, it's difficult to master. Most humans can't be trusted with operating both hands independently, driving a manual requires 3 limb independence, on a motorcycle that's 4 limb independence, similar to the kind of 4 limb independence drumming requires, which is another one of those, easy to learn but difficult to master kind of skills. Then to add another layer, the driver still needs to worry about vehicle dynamics. Realize now the extend of car knowledge of most people is "put car in D, right pedal go, left pedal stop, wheel steer, weee gooooo"

>>2062253
Shingo Shoji Actually

>>2062240
people learn to start a manual car within the first 5 minutes behind the wheel, the real issue is doing all that while turning left on an unregulated intersection and squeezing in the limited time you have available in the traffic without stalling the engine or going too slow.

>>2064880
I started with motorcycles then manual cars. Conversion was easy peasy. One thing to remember about cars is that you can't fit them through a three foot gap in traffic.
Auto is mind numbingly boring, I occasionally forget it is me driving.

>>2064845
must be flat as a pancake where you live
or else you're just a hardcunt

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>>2064936
>>2064880
>>2064863
>>2062240
None of you have ever actually driven a real manual. The car I learned to drive manual on was a 1928 Ford Model A, pure double clutch, none of your modern fancy shmancy synchro gears

>>2064945
i drive a 2006 nissan tiida, it stalls out if i release the clutch without pushing on the gas going from a stop. i have no idea what the stall prevention/auo throttling feature on more modern cars is called.

>>2062343
kek

>>2062342
You don't want to downshift in snow though. Starting on 2nd gear on ice is better to avoid too much torque going to the wheel and breaking traction.

>>2064945
unc...

>>2064833
Its only 2 hours to Trestle but I still havent gone yet. I have to settle for going uphill for an hour or so just to go downhill for 5-10 minutes.

But once again I hope you die in traffic after thinking you can "take the lane"

>>2065317
I have no doubt you'll take the opportunity to kill me. But I'll die happy and you'll always be miserable so that seems like a good deal

>>2065317
>Trestle
>2 hours drive for 2,000 feet of vertical rise
grim

>>2065009
mate you are not making enough torque with your legs alone to care about that. cyclists need to stop pretending that their 9999$ memedale is actually precisely the same as a dirtbike and has to be driven the same way

see also: the countersteering meme

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>>2062183

Is this true? Or is it all about carrying speed and pushing hard during climbs?

>>2066409
spinning the legs on an easier gear will always make it easier than pushing hard. Particularly on longer bike rides, all that pushing down the pedals compounds as fatigue much faster than spinning the pedals

I personally have always preferred stair mastering it to crazy legs.