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Seems like both Caltrain and BART haven't recovered from the pandemic. Perhaps people just aren't going into the office, or they might be scared of being like that Ukrainian refugee that got merked in Atlanta. But it doesn't really sufficiently explain why the ridership numbers dropped off so significantly after the pandemic
Or the BART agency is so wasteful with its spending that it can't handle a little lull in business

Seems like the tech companies prefer to run their own private bus lines for their workers. This was going on well before covid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_tech_bus_protests

Plus you have Uber, Lyft, Cruise, Waymo, and Zoox all headquartered there. And also a Tesla factory. Could be factors.

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>>2065197
The tech industry is the reason for this system failing because this is the largest region of the county where remote work took over. BART has always been mostly a work commute system. Before Covid it was packed over capacity for the majority of commuting hours, I remember reports of how it was only made for something like 250k daily riders and it was carrying 500k per day. Since Covid it’s only back to like half or less of previous ridership because of remote work, and it is so dependent on fares that it’s gotten completely fucked.

This is really just a terrible result. BART has been a really great and unique system, being a subway system but covering a ton of miles in a region connecting suburbs all over. I figured it was worth posting on here about it’s failure, especially because it’s an indictment on how America hates public transit where even one of the richest areas of the world can’t sustain a public transit system.

>>2065200
bart doesn't even serve the tech industry what are you on about, it goes exactly where silicon valley isn't
conversely, caltrain, which does serve tech, has significantly improved recently. let's not talk about vta though

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>>2065233
>rich people want to live where there's a good train and not a shitty train
that's fuckin crazy talk, why not force them to live where there's a bart so there's political pressure to improve the bart?

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>>2065186
dart doing the same thing because they dont listen to member city's concerns

>>2065233
Have you never heard of San Francisco being a major tech and finance hub? If you look at ridership pre and post Covid the drop off has been significant, and it’s due to people in SF office doing a lot of remote work now. It’s pretty much single handedly the reason why the system has failed

>>2065251
Well that and the fact that nobody wants to be around fent zombies, and kicking fent zombies off mass transit is fascist or something, so bart can't/won't remove undesirables (who don't pay fares), so desirables seek alternative transportation. You are sort of right that this is tech bros' fault, but that's because they helped push wholeness, not because they want to avoid its effects.

>>2065252
why do americans think the only two options for public policy are to allow junkies to run wild or to just execute anyone who looks at a cop the wrong way and there's literally no way to actually have a professional police force that knows what they're doing and isn't motivated by psychopathic urges

>>2065252
>wholeness
*wokeness

>>2065253
When we try to do the middle ground, the lugenpresse frames it as the second thing, so libtards vote for the first thing.

>>2065255
handcuffing a man and shooting him in the back of the head while he's lying face down on the concrete isn't "the middle ground", freak

>>2065256
We're making the mother of all omelettes here, Jack. Can't go crying about every broken egg.

>>2065252
BART actually significantly upgraded its safety since covid. Increased police presence when before covid when the system was severely overpacked you rarely saw cops and the addicts were everywhere. Also within the last year they got new faregates at every station that make it somewhat harder to fare evade. But people still do it.

My ideal for keeping the fent zombies out would be to get rid of station attendants completely and just have two police officers standing at the entrance of the station at all times. That would deter bums from fare evading, and even ones who try to slip through the officers standing by could arrest them. And without the crackheads, the cops won't need to be patrolling the system, because the crackheads and other fare evaders are the ones causing the problem

>>2065266
>My ideal for keeping the fent zombies out would be to get rid of station attendants completely and just have two police officers standing at the entrance of the station at all times.
in Montreal the "transit security" are real cops. idk all the lore but i've heard it's basically where fresh hires go to both get experience with the boring parts of policing (lots of paperwork and stops for dumb shit like people smoking indoors or doing graffiti) but also to weed out the tryhard superhero wannabes (since they will quit after a year of telling teenagers to stop writing on things) but also the at least somewhat sane ones have to see the worst of humanity day in day out not committing crimes and have to resist the urge to hassle them until they start some shit

in fact one time i got a ticket from a normal ass normal cop in a pretty abnormal incident where i had two dudes draw guns on me on me but the ticket had the STM logo on it. I guess buddy was just out of normal tickets or something

>>2065309
>where i had two dudes draw guns on me on me
you owe us a greentext if you're going to tease like that. were you running around the tunnels in a ninja suit or what.

>>2065310
I was carrying home an air rifle from a friend's house after drinking too much to think to just disassemble it and carry it in a bag so some karen called the cops

i wasnt even on transit, i was walking on the street

>>2065312
all good stories start with "after drinking"