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Hey /n/!
I could really use your help for something. I am writing a film about bike couriers in a mostly atemporal setting. This is set in a biome-rich beachside town so I would like a few different options for different terrains. Most importabtly of all I would really like to know what the ultimate "jack-of-all-trades" bike would look like if money were not an option.
Thank you for this bikebros!
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>>2066298
>the ultimate "jack-of-all-trades" bike would look like if money were not an option.
Bike messengers are some of the poorest people in America. Like literally they are usually squatter punks or live with their mom
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If you're looking for a specific model of Bicycle, consider either of these two;
>1.) Electra Townie (best selling bike in America, common commuter/beach cruiser type bike popular mostly with boomers but sometimes seen as Uber delivery bikes with rear racks installed) could go well with your "biome-rich beachside town" setting
>2.) Chinese Flying Pigeon (single speed all-around road/hybrid bicycle, also the best-selling bicycle in China) it basically looks like what most people picture in their heads when they try to imagine the "default bicycle"
Otherwise, you could also just go for a European City bike, really what matters is what type of frame you think will work for your setting (Cruiser, Road, Hybrid, Mountain bike.etc)
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>>2066303
I have an in-world justification for the aquisition of parts.
>>2066307
Incredibly helpful, thank you! I wouldn't mind looking at some of the more visually striking or obscure examples if you have any. The idea is a team of bicycle couriers with different bikes for different terrains and one messenger with a bike spec'd to handle almost any terrain decently.
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>>2066298
>the ultimate "jack-of-all-trades" bike would look like if money were not an option.
a motorcycle
but really it deepends on the aesthetic of the book/character, the setting, and the >USE CASE. is the character in a beach town delivering brewskis along the actual sand? or is he in town racing against the internet to transfer hard drives full of sensitive filez? likewise "new parts" are justified but how, is he just friends with his local bike shop owner who hands him wear parts like desk candy or is he replacing whole parts of the frame getting it welded together at the cyberpunk chop shop?
if you were doing what you really are doing and just asking what is >BEST then there are pretty clear winners but for a stylish option for a book character what will fit will change a lot and probably be more exaggerated than the equivalent real-life option
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You shouldn't approach it in this way.
You need to establish an overall aesthetic and choose a bike that fits
Like you said it's atemporal but you must have some idea when like now the future the late 20th century?
Asking bike nerds isn't going to help you
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>I wouldn't mind looking at some of the more visually striking or obscure examples if you have any.
go look at silk road bikes
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>>2066337
nta but good storytelling >>> autism about some niche hobby interest
this is why no one likes the guy who goes "reeee it's supposed to be the invasion of grenada yet the 3 round bursts are clearly resetting each time which means it has an A4 cam the movie is ruined stupid gun grabber hollywood libtards", literally go fuck yourself spergo of us are just trying to enjoy a war movie
rarely and I mean RARELY autism and storytelling can overlap but it's almost unheard of that's why it's such a big deal when it's done right, it is almost never done right
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>>2066339
this, for example Heat is a "/k/" movie but at no point do they sperg out about guns, they just have cool ones on screen that act "realistically". but it's a fucking good movie
meanwhile there's plenty of direct to netflix slop movies that try to do it and are absolutely not even fun C list garbage but happen to have a scene where they rattle off the datasheet of an M16A3 verbatim for no reason and no amount of "accuracy" saves them from being utterly forgettable
that said others are right, nail down an aesthetic but then stay away from namedropping specific models (you WILL get something wrong and someone WILL get upset) in favor of using features to advance the plot. sorta like how nu-blofkamp films (Elysium, Chappie, District 9, etc) always have some ridiculous supertech weapon that advances the plot, tries to include vaguely how it works, but the only point of it actually existing in the setting is to let an actual character move the plot forward at some point
also keep in mind that people using stuff don't sperg out about said stuff when some crisis is underway. people like john wick gunfu because it allows john wick to do john wick things. they dont watch it because john wick painstakingly explains why Center Axis Relock isn't a total fucking meme
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>>2066341
>Look at Tolkien; autism about languages.
languages are a plot device and the book isn't just a dictionary
>Look at Star Wars; autism about samurai movies.
not really at all, their swordsmanship is pretty poor in most SW films and it's more of a WWII Ace Opera with swordfights for garnish
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>>2066381
I am currently researching
>>2066346
No, see. I won't be namedropping or having any expositional dialogue related to any of this. This is about verismilitude and that sort of thing is at its best when it just solidfies the setting while sitting in the background.
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I agree with your take but I am going to do my research for this. I have a costume designer looking through old beachwear catalogues and reference photos of nyc bike couriers. I have also been looking through different flag codes.
I really appreciate all of the help so far.
I guess I just want to communicate is that the idea isn't to appease autism with hackenyed accuracy but rather to understand enough about the culture(s) that watching it as cyclists won't make you roll your eyes and instead, hopefully, feel relatable.
This is not the extent of my research into bicycles either. I am going to contact experts irl to make sure that I am not making nonsense.
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>different flag codes.
is this a maritime drama now?
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well i can tell you right now that average boaters do not give ONE SINGLE FUCK about signal flags and just boomer babble over vhf in plain english
the only one i have ever seen in the wild is Bravo and only on tankers, even Alpha doesn't get used for divers in favor of the white on red X thing (which is usually a rigid panel on a buoy)
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>>2066303
This, my life sucks, I was born lucky though so I get to work this job without being a gutter punk. I used to be a big shitbag tho but I cleaned up and became courier over 10 years ago, people around me accept me more like this than how I used to be
>>2066298
>beachside town
Where I basically live
>ultimate "jack-of-all-trades" bike
I kind of already have it but it's a bit too heavy in headwinds, a bit lighter frame, tighter fit, and thinner tires would be better. The track bike I had before this was also a bit much but the other side, the track bike was too sharp, that's why I got this bike. The cruiser is too heavy but oddly it's become my favorite bike even if it's my lowest value bike, it makes a great work bike. Really though, I want another bike, a flat bar 4130 with 27.5x1.9 slicks, something between what I have now
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>your most memorable experiences as a courier
There was a 1-2 year spree I was into social cycling and attended every big group ride. Some of those social rides were the most fun moments of my life, I met a lot of good people and because I work outside and all over the city, I still frequently run into them
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>>2066540
We absolutely are a beach town, just a seasonal Midwestern version where the beach baddies and beach bums turn up June to September, there's corpos and kingpins with yacht parties in the playpen, and we even have beach bars and volley ball tournaments. I used to think casually grilling by the beach was a normal thing until I learned it's a special occasion thing for non coastal cities. There's a reason Chicago claims the "third coast"
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>>2066553
mate, when people say "beach town" they don't mean somewhere on a lake, they mean shit like you see in florida
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also a pretty key feature of "beach town" is that it's a salt water beach, i.e. that the beach doesn't have an opposite shore you can even see with RADAR no matter how crazy the ducting gets from the metallic smog of industry, gunfire, and cagies
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Lmao no it doesn't, beach towns include fresh water beach towns
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You have never been to an actual beach town in your entire life. Come visit Florida or California, those places have Beach Towns, this just aint it chief. And it's not even because it's on a freshwater lake, I wouldn't consider Long Island New York a real beach town either.
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>>2066558
>LA,
its own thing defying classification
>San Diego,
harbour town
>Miami,
ample beach but who tf is wasting valuable cocaine and gay sex with cubans time hitting the beach in miami KWAB the beach is where you nurse your hangover
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>anon wants to write a screenplay about someone biking on a beach
people do not bike on beaches. have you ever tried? even "beach cruisers" fucking struggle on sand, they're meant for the boardwalk/path next to the beach. even modern fatbikes aren't exactly fun on loose sand.
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