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Puppy murderer Noem announces Trump gov will steal the midterms 02/15/26(Sun)16:36:10 No.1489464
Puppy murderer Noem announces Trump gov will steal the midterms 02/15/26(Sun)16:36:10 No.1489464
Puppy murderer Noem announces Trump gov will steal the midterms Anonymous 02/15/26(Sun)16:36:10 No.1489464 [Reply]▶
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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5739328-noem-voting-midterm-elec tions/
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem suggested on Friday that her department has a broad role in election security, claiming she has the authority to identify “vulnerabilities” in the election system and implement “mitigation measures” to make sure local and state elections are “run correctly.”
Noem argued during a press conference in Arizona, where she was pushing for passage of a national voter ID law, that elections fell within the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) mission of “maintaining critical infrastructure.”
“I would say that many people believe that it may be one of the most important things that we need to make sure we trust, is reliable, and that when it gets to Election Day, that we’ve been proactive to make sure that we have the right people voting, electing the right leaders to lead this country through the days that we have, knowing that people can trust it,” she said.
A clip of those comments began circulating on social media Saturday morning, drawing swift criticism from Democratic lawmakers and political commentators.
“This is Trump’s idea of democracy: leaders get to select their voters instead of the other way around,” Sen. Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) wrote on the social platform Twitter.
The House passed the SAVE America Act on Wednesday, a bill that would require Americans to show photo ID when voting in federal elections and proof of U.S. citizenship to register. If enacted, the legislation also mandate that states remove non-citizens from its voter rolls.
Its passage tees up debate in the Senate, where similar legislation has stalled in past years over Democratic opposition. At least one Republican, Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), has indicated she does not support the effort.
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With prospects murky, President Trump on Friday floated the idea of issuing an executive order that would accomplish the same goal.
“There will be Voter I.D. for the Midterm Elections, whether approved by Congress or not!” Trump wrote on Truth Social.
Critics have slammed the proposal as an attack on voting rights and warned it could disenfranchise millions of legal voters, including women whose married names do not match their passports or birth certificates.
Noem pushed back on that opposition on Friday.
“Each of the arguments laid out to criticize this bill are baseless speculation from the radical left because they want illegal aliens to vote in our elections,” she said.
Noem has come under fire in recent weeks for her rhetoric surrounding immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota, particularly her hasty use of the term “domestic terrorism” to describe the actions of two U.S. citizens fatally shot by federal officers.
Trump has so far defended Noem and resisted bipartisan pressure for her resignation or firing. Former Obama adviser David Axelrod suggested in a post on Twitter that Noem’s comments on election security could help explain why.
“THIS is why @KristiNoem will remain in place, despite her flagrant, corrupt mismanagement of the @DHS, at least through the midterm elections,” he wrote. “@POTUS wants a loyal apparatchik in place who will do whatever is necessary to ensure ‘the right leaders’ win.”
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>>1489464
People without ID should have anticipated the president would do this right before an election. Why should this go to a vote? 100% of Americans agree with this already and Trump is guaranteed to win a supermajority now that whites and minorities overwhelmingly agree he’s the greatest president in the world
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>>1489483
>>Poll tax is fine
>>Even though it's expressly against the constitution
And so were tax stamps. You were cool with that until Trump reduced the payment to $0. So don't waste my time whining about muh constitution when you're perfectly fine with violating it when it suits you. It costs less than a happy meal to make a one-time payment for a voter ID (at least in my based state). Why is this always a monumental challenge for minorities that gets brought up every election?
Other than you want to give illegals a chance.
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>>1489468
>>1489467
>>1489472
There’s no credible evidence that large numbers of undocumented immigrants are voting in U.S. elections or meaningfully influencing outcomes.
Non-citizen voting in federal elections is illegal, and investigations by researchers and election officials—including analyses cited by the Brennan Center for Justice—have consistently found it to be extremely rare.
The claim is mostly a political talking point tied to broader debates about immigration and voting laws, not something supported by verified data.
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>>1489490
And there you have it.
>when I tax you to enjoy a right it's okay
>when you do it it's bad and against the constitution
Fuck off. You're not allowed to use that argument anymore. Now tell me why we shouldn't have voter ID like every other democracy on the fucking planet.
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>>1489488
>So don't waste my time whining about muh constitution when you're perfectly fine with violating it when it suits you.
Does your countries constitution allow the federal government to dictate how elections are held?
Because thats probably the main difference between your third world shithole and the USA
Despite the propaganda you're paid to push, you wouldn't be able to vote if you came here
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>>1489494
>There’s no credible evidence that large numbers of undocumented immigrants are voting in U.S. elections or meaningfully influencing outcomes.
And there's no credible evidence that the majority of democrats are so fucking poor they can't spend less than $20 dollars on an ID to vote.
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>>1489504
And I accept that you have no valid answer against requiring an ID to vote.
>durrr it's against the constitution
>perfectly fine with violating 2A and requiring a tax to own firearms
>hurrrr no proof illegals voting is a serious problem
>can't prove requiring an ID to vote to prevent the problem entirely is a serious burden
>derp derp derp feds interfering with state elections is illegal
>was perfectly fine with Biden doing it during his term
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Imagine being so stupid but you think shooting a puppy is going to make you look like a tough guy. And then being so stupid that appearing before some shaved head men in a 3rd world super prison in a tight t-shirt it's going to get you some votes in the future.
Stupid bitch keeps falling on doorknobs of her own volition
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>>1489497
To vote at the Canadian federal election you have to prove your identity and address. There are three ways to do this
Option 1: Show one of these pieces of ID
your driver's licence
any other card issued by a Canadian government (federal, provincial/territorial or local) with your photo, name and current address
Option 2: Show two pieces of ID
Both must have your name and at least one must have your current address.
Examples:
health card and bank statement
utility bill and student ID card
See the full list of accepted ID below to prove your identity and address under Option 2.
Option 3: If you don't have ID
You can still vote if you declare your identity and address in writing and have someone who knows you and who is assigned to your polling station vouch for you.
The voucher must be able to prove their identity and address. A person can vouch for only one person (except in long-term care institutions).
https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=ids&document=ind ex&lang=e
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>>1489511
>noooooo stupid libs, you have to believe its a problem
>sure we don't have any examples, and its never happened before
>but it might
>ignore Trump whining about losing the elections before pivoting to these problemless answers
Maybe if you weren't transparent faggots who only whine about voter fraud when you're losing
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>>1489527
Don't forget, the way republicans force it is intentionally racist and attacks the poor, on top of the fact it's a solution in search of a problem.
https://assets.aclu.org/live/uploads/document/aclu_voter_id_fact_sheet _-_final__1_.pdf
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THERES A LITERAL PHRASE
"THAT DOG WONT HUNT"
THAT MEANS "USELESS"
SORRY YOUR LIBERAL EMPATHY CRIPPLED YOUR USEFULNESS BUT PROJECTING IT ONTO A DOG WONT MAKE YOU ANY LESS OF A TOOL
IF THE DOG WONT HUNT ITS A DEAD DOG
YOU COULD LEARN SOMETHING FROM THAT PHRASE
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>>1489526
>And that's not specifically outlawed by the constitution
>shall not be infringed.
>>1489527
>sure we don't have any examples,
But that's wrong you fucking retard, and those are only the people we've caught. If only we had some kind of verification system like our European and Oceanic counterparts...
But no. Can't have that. ID is racist!
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>>1489547
You think that Illegals getting drivers licenses and illegals getting the vote are unrelated?
https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/automatic-voter-registrat ion
>Automatic voter registration (AVR) is a process in which eligible individuals are automatically registered to vote when interacting with certain government agencies, such as a department of motor vehicles. Information gathered from participating government agencies is transmitted to election officials, who use it to either create a new voter record or update an existing registration. While this process is triggered by an interaction with a participating government agency, it is not compulsory
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgql5gk38wno
>California is revoking 17,000 commercial driver's licences after an audit found they were given to thousands of immigrants who are no longer legally allowed in the US.
>The Department of Transportation said California officials confirmed they "illegally issued" those licences "to dangerous foreign drivers", and the holders were notified their licences will expire in 60 days.
California admitted to "mistakenly" issuing 17,000 commercial drivers licenses to people who are not legally allowed in the country.
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>>1489551
lmao, you're trying to pretend all these things mean that immigrants are being registered to vote when they're not
do stupid people really fall for that?
just because people are being submitted doesn't mean they're not being immediately rejected for not being citizens, you're so fucking dumb
>>1489552
just because you're being paid to be here doesn't mean your time is precious
go fuck up your own countries elections, America doesn't have your problems
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>>1489554
1. California offers drivers licenses to illegal aliens
2. California has automatic voter registration, a process in which they are automatically registered to vote when interacting with government agencies, such as the DMV
3.California has admitted to issuing 17,000 commercial licenses in error, and revoked those licenses
This leads to 4. California has automatically registered to vote people who weren't legally allowed to vote "by mistake"
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>>1489556
Nah, you're missing:
4. Non-Citizens who register to vote get rejected
which leads to 5. No one that isn't cripplingly retarded thinks this somehow means illegals are able to vote
also 6. Commerical Licenses issued for a full term that happens to go beyond the date an immigrant is legally allowed to a country aren't invalid licenses, no matter how much shills are paid to believe they are
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>>1489547
If illegal immigrants cant already vote then theres no issue with requiring identification to vote. Most nations already require it, and America leads the world why should we be any less secure than the 3rd world
What are you even afraid of? It won't make the voting line any longer or slower this is a good change
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>>1489593
>If illegal immigrants cant already vote then theres no issue with requiring identification to vote
There is when that identification isn't something many or most citizens have.
>Most nations already require it
Most nations have federal, country-wide IDs. The US doesn't, and is making no moves to implement them. A state ID is not proof of citizenship.
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>>1489594
Then its high time that those citizens get their identification.
It's a small cost to participate in our democracy.
I support free passports for all Americans. Get rid of the fees, but only issue them to legit citizens.
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>>1489602
Do you seriously need citation that most Americans don't have a passport? Or that many citizens have different names than their birth name?
>>1489613
>Then its high time that those citizens get their identification.
That costs money. Requiring citizens to purchase something in order to vote is a poll tax, which is unconstitutional and illegal.
>I support free passports for all Americans.
Great. They're not doing that.
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>>1489618
Traveling to your polling place costs money
Eating food on the way costs money (Australians get a free meal)
Reading up on the candidates costs time and time = money
There are a plethora of poll taxes in place already dont be disingenuous just because the latest one is going to disproportionately cuck Your candidates
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>>1489628
You do now! Cry about it all you want libtard, being properly documented is now a prerequisite to participating in our democracy
*Trump's executive order isn't public yet. But it's written already
Buckle up buckeroo, we are going to see how many of the "swing states" hinged on the illegal bloc
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>>1489634
Whites are well regulated enough to own guns, they don't let their emotions get the better of them
Black Americans are in the wrong latitude they don't get enough sun and the first symptom of a vitamin d deficiency is mood changes
Of course things go south fast when they get their hands on firearms. It's just in their nature
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>>1489620
>If you can't afford to have a passport, you can't afford to vote.
That's illegal and unconstitutional.
>>1489622
That's nonsense.
>going to disproportionately cuck Your candidates
That is the point of all this, though. Two demographics that would be heavily disenfranchised by this are (married) women and trannies, who predominately vote Democrat.
>>1489628
You will with Save, which is what people are mad about.
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>>1489639
Married women won't have any troubles that's fake news and if you believe it youre not smart enough to talk to. Neither party will disenfranchise married women. They can vote under their husbands surname, just like they always have. Don't exaggerate
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>>1489645
>There is when that identification isn't something many or most citizens have.
>identification isn't something many or most citizens have.
>identification
Prove it. Or just spare us the time and admit you fucked up.
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>>1489649
It's cute you refuse to Google and insist on me doing it for you ok here ya go
https://ariventures.co/passport-ownership-in-the-us/
https://passportlists.com/why-dont-americans-have-passports/
https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/voters-without-passports-or- birth-certificates-demographics-acc ess-eddc50
https://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/01/SA VEact-tables.pdf
Faggot
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>>1489659
Yes, I've already answered you twice. Passports are the only acceptable form of identification to vote in america. Spamming the question at me won't change anything.
Unless you spam it one more time, then that will make the answer magically be "no you can vote with just a driver's license" so don't you dare spam it one more time I'll crack under the pressure
Faggot
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>>1489660
>Yes
That's wrong you fucking retard. Which you know, but you won't answer correctly because you made a blatantly bullshit claim, got called out, and instead of saying 'oops I fucked up, what I meant to say was X', you decided to double-down on your retardation and make it about passports being required to vote - something nobody in this thread was talking about at all until you did here >>1489618 to cover your lying nigger ass moving the goalposts, because nobody else in this thread was talking about requiring passports to vote, which you would still be wrong about either way.
Nice try faggot, now kill yourself.
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>>1489662
>Passports are the only valid identification to vote.
Wrong, and not what anyone was talking about. Your deflection failed.
>Racists don't get to be part of the social fabric,
Awww did I hurt your subhuman feelings? Go cry on reddit about it.
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>>1489668
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/13/trump-voter-id-congress-00782 094
"Whether congress approves it or not"
Keep laughing and saying he can't do it all the way to November. The illegals will never be able to vote again lmao
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>>1489669
So not currently the law, which means you're incorrect. Not to mention the bill accepts other forms of identification... which you don't think exist... besides passports. So again, you're wrong. So now that we've entertained your pathetic attempt at moving the goalposts, lets get back to the topic we were talking about, which is you flailing wildly to come up with any reason why we shouldn't have voter ID like almost every other western country does.
>>1489670
Clearly you haven't noticed that Trump says a lot of shit. He said he was going to take Greenland. Did he? He said he was going to make Canada the 51st state. Did he? He said he was going to pull the US out of NATO. Did he?
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>>1489675
We should have voter id
Greenland will be ours, Canada will be ours. That won't happen until after the Final Plan is implemented, which anyone who was on truth social would know. It's not my fault you're ignorant.
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>>1489651
No, they're not, but we're not talking about form of identification, we're talking about proof of citizenship, which is what the Save act requires. Of course there are other forms of identification in America, but most of them don't prove you're a citizen.
You d this all the time. Asking some yes or no question like you've got some big gotcha lined up, and it never actually fits the discussion being had.
>>1489661
That ain't me, anon.
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>>1489682
What did I just fucking say?
Not explicitly. It requires proof of citizenship, and there's not many forms of ID that provide that. Passports are one, but most Americans don't have one. Birth certificates are another, but only if you've never changed your birth name, which many people have. There's a few other forms, like naturalization papers or tribal documentation, but most Americans can't get those at all.
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>>1489693
>Militia,
Which is composed of every able-bodied male. I've wasted enough time waiting for you to answer honestly.
>Now why are you so desperate to change the subject from the trump poll tax which is specifically in the constitution?
>And that's not specifically outlawed by the constitution
>shall not be infringed.
You hypocrites were fine with violating rights in the constitution and requiring a tax on 2A. Don't bitch about a lousy $12 dollar "poll tax" for a $12 dollar ID. If anything, we should charge you fuckers $200 and you need to buy a new one each time you vote. See how you like it then.
>More than it's a classic Russian tactic
Da comrade, everyone who doesn't agree with you is a Russian bot.
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>>1489699
He did it on Day 1!
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the -meaning-and-value-of-american-citi zenship/
And here's a summary of how it's going:
The Supreme Court is set to review the constitutionality of President Trump's executive order that seeks to limit birthright citizenship for children born in the U.S. to parents who are undocumented or in the country temporarily. This case will be argued in spring 2026, with a ruling expected by summer 2026.
You're out here playing checkers, faggot
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>>1489711
No, the way America works is we have checks and balances. The executive order has been checked until the Supreme Court rules on it.
The good news is, trump appointed half of the supreme court. So once they rule on it this summer the fake citizens are OUTTA HERE
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>>1489535
>SORRY YOUR LIBERAL EMPATHY CRIPPLED YOUR USEFULNESS
Disgusting human being to actually think like this
>empathy=evil
how do you justify having become a person like this?
Do you sleep at night? Is your mother alive, and is she horribly disappointed in you?
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>>1489750
>YOU DONT LOVE STRANGERS YOURE JUST VIRTUE SIGNALING
No you're just a horrible person. You can have love for your neighbors, naturally. thats what it is when youre a healthy person. You worship child molesters bro.
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>>1489769
YOU USE THE SAME WORD LOVE
TO DESCRIBE HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR MOTHER
AND HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT STRANGERS
YOURE LYING ABOUT ONE OF THEM AND I ONLY HOPE ITS THE STRANGER YOURE LYING ABOUT BECAUSE HOW SAD WOULD IT BE IF YOU REALLY FELT THE SAME WAY FOR A RANDOM PERSON ON THE STREET AS YOU FEEL TOWARDS THE WOMAN WHO BIRTHED YOU
STOP LYING TO YOURSELF
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>>1489770
there are different forms of love
romantic, famillial, general kinship, close friendship.
I didnt read all of that because what a joke. Anyways, you worship child molesters. You deserve 0 respect, and thats why you get none from anyone.
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>>1489770
so when I meet others, I can choose to harbor goodwill, or malwill for them. I choose to harbor goodwill. Thats what it is to love your neighbor; to act out of love. Christian conservatives would know nothing about that. All you know is worshiping child molesters, and making excuses for them, to justify your own disgusting character.
you see the world in a disgusting way, but not everyone does. thats just the world -you- live in. your own personal hell.
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>>1489477
This link you sent is for a class on how to fill out asylum requests, not apply for voting. This class has nothing to do with voting. Do you know that you're lying or do you just repeat what you hear on the internet without bothering to check?
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>>1489968
Thats why he said "application requests" and "probably something like that" youre the one who failed reading comp sorry he never claimed they were helping illegals vote, just that upper education was organizing to help illegals stay in our nation. I'm sure all the first year law students got a real fuzzy feeling when they helped illegals secure their American dream, but America has had enough. Elitist liberal brainwashing can't stop what's coming
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>>1489978
Migrants decide when to come to the US based on the people in power, trump definitely had a chilling effect on immigration when he was elected the first time, and thats only grown now that he's getting down to business
I'm going to give you respected nongovernmental sources only and I'm going to especially direct you to the ez to read data. This is for you and anyone else who is doubting.
CMS - liberal bias
>Center for Migration Studies. NOT to be confused with the anti-inmigration think tank CIS (center for immigration studies)
>You can select the entire nation, your state, or a group of states. Many data are provided including Period of Entry. This is the single best tool, the others provided are merely redundancies.
https://data.cmsny.org/
>Data from previous years, if you want that. Click sidebar button, click download for 2010-2019 data
https://cmsny.org/data-undocumented-state-2010-to-2019/
PRC - nonpartisan
>Graph page 4, entire resource is valuable
https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025/08/RE_202 5.08.21_Unauthorized-Immigrants_REP ORT.pdf
MPI - left center bias
>Click your state, scroll down to "years of US residence" to see what % of the illegals in your state today came at what point in time.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/us-immigration-policy-program -data-hub/unauthorized-immigrant-po pulation-profiles
You don't have to take anyone's word for it. You can check for yourself. I have not provided any sources with Republican bias.
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>>1490000
no one claimed illegals didnt enter. the claim was trump changed the value every time he talked because he is a blow hard idiot.
you got a study showing that not one single person has illegally entered the usa in the last year as Trump and his admin have claimed? >you dont
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>>1490013
The methodology of data collection for such large sample sizes sadly means that we won't get 2025 numbers until 2027 or so. Maybe late 2026. Depends on what kind of efforts are being made to collect the data.
Now, the government sources I didn't provide, they DO have 2025 data (keep in mind this refers to the period that is July 2024 to June 2025)
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2026/01/histori c-decline-in-net-international-migr ation.html
Here ya go. The non-government data will be out in a year or so to confirm that the govt wasn't lying.
If you're mad at Trump personally for exaggerating or lying I can't help you.
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>>1490036
What? All I said was omg, the rest was grammatical and omg is a very common phrase.
Does anyone have a source on the thousands of American citizens who have been arrested like anon claims? I want to read it, please.
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>>1490038
So far ICE has completely blocked any investigation into deaths involving their agents. However, their attempts to sue victims after non-fatal shootings have repeatedly not only failed, but in one recent case involving the people who were accused of ambushing an agent with shovels, exposed them outright lying about the justification. Turns out there was no ambush and the ICE agent shot someone through a fucking closed door.
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>>1490038
No, it was determined to be a justifiable homicide so he "got away with it".
Not only did he get away with it, but now...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-agent-jonathan-ross-a-crowdfundi ng-millionaire-after-renee-good-s-s hooting/ar-AA1UlRAb
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>>1490040
>So far ICE has completely blocked any investigation into deaths involving their agents.
You mean the DOJ? Because if they're not bringing up charges against the officer then that's probably a good indicator that it was a justified shooting and the bitch got what she deserved.
Maybe you faggots in MN wouldn't get brutalized if you weren't constantly doing stupid shit.
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