The U.S. Supreme Court in 2019 stripped federal courts of their power to police partisan voting maps, opening the door to state-by-state battles to craft congressional districts. Last year, Republican President Donald Trump demanded that his party redraw the maps to their benefit, sparking a battle with Democrats who in turn adopted a more aggressive approach to the issue.
The Virginia Supreme Court said on Friday it would allow a Democratic-backed redistricting effort to head to a voter referendum in April.
"We're striking back," Jeffries told CNN. "We're going to make sure that there's a fair national map."
U.S. Senator Thom Tillis, a Republican from North Carolina, said on CBS News' "Face the Nation" that he worried about his party's ability to maintain control in the House, partly because of redistricting.

DUMBOCRATS CAN ONLY WIN BY CHEATING

WEVE KNOWN THIS FOR DECADES

Related: How the US Supreme Court set the stage for partisan gerrymandering arms race
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/how-us-supreme-court-set-stage-partisan-gerrymandering-arms-race-2026-02-14/

>>1489754
>Nooo the democrats can't fight fire with fire!
Why not have non partisan commissions draw all the districts in every state if this is so upsetting?

>>1489764
>Why don't I strap on my non-partisan helmet and squeeze down into a non-partisan cannon and fire off into Nonpartisanland where non-partisans grow on non-partisanies.
I think you meant bi-partisan there's no such thing as a non-partisan in america
And the reason they don't do that is because they want to skew the map
Feature not bug

>>1489764
>>Nooo the democrats can't fight fire with fire!
>said the arsonist

>>1489764
Democrats can not, and will not stop until every vote is fraudulent and every map is gerrymandered

>>1489754
Is this the same state that wants to ban AR-15s and get rid of the mandatory minimum sentence for child rapists?

>>1489844
When's the last time a Republican mob looted and burned a city?
inb4 j6, im talking about a real fire not that larp

>>1489847
Sheesh the Democrats are out of control in Virginia I'll never let them take my state

>>1489754
So why did Republicans vote Democrat in Louisiana: and with a massive swing to that party?
Checkmate, Christains.

>>1489857
>Christains
Esl
>Why did the Democrat in Louisiana win
That was a special election to replace the Democrat rep (Chad Brown) who was retiring to take on a job in state govt

A Democrat replaced a Democrat, it wasn't surprising to anyone

>thinks 'Christains' = 'Esl'
>>1489859 has no concept of sarcasm

>>1489861
Spelling errors aren't sarcasm. I'm afraid it's your conceptualization that is incorrect.

Where are you from you smell exotic

Why the fuck do Americans have to make EVERYTHING some sort of partisan exercise? Just make an independent body that decides the boundaries through raw, unbiased data. Literally every other first world country can do it just fine.

>>1489866
That other anon already told you: there are no independent bodies. There are no non-partisan groups. We are very much divided into sides here.
>Literally every other first world country can do it just fine.
Good for them. They're not on the edge of another civil war.

>still thinks 'Christains' = 'Esl'
>has no concept of wordplay: the stain of Christianity on the world
Wordplay and the use of such by those who know about the concept proves you incorrect, I'm afraid.
>smell
>>1489864 smells of curry, with that lack of knowledge about western humor.

>>1489868
God your country is an unbelievable fucking shithole. Please get better.

>>1489869
You're arguing semetics

Now THATS a joke. Yours didn't land don't be bitter about it.

>>1489873
And 'Christains' went over your head, or you wouldn't need to 'argue'.
>>1489859 >>1489864 proves you're bitter or you wouldn't have needed to have replied. But you cannot spell 'Replied' without the word Lie.

>>1489871
You're just now noticing this? Did 2020/21 not give it away?

>>1489875
If you have to explain your joke...

Seplilng dsonet mtaetr aynwyas and it cretnaliy dsonet cnontoe srcasam.

>>1489859
>Christains
>Esl
>>1489878
The duality of the hypocrite.

>>1489881
*Hypocrit

1489882 is still bitter

*Better

1489859 is retarded

>>1489764
They go low, we go lower.

>>1489908
Democrats don't know how to fight dirty they get punished by the voters every time they try

>>1489918
>they get punished by the voters
>New York: Zohran Mamdani
>Miami
>Texas
It's not the Democrats who are being punished by voters

>>1489922
Wrong

>>1489764
47% of the people are not getting fair representation

dems been doing it for decades, nothing new. republicans are just pussies that send stern letters

they are both paid for by the same billionaires, banks, and corpo's
and you just let them keep doing it

>>1489926
*Not Wrong

>>1489929
Anytime Dems say something mean, even if it's true, they lose votes
Anytime Republicans say something mean, even if it's false, they gain votes

We call this the "pearl clutching pussy" factor

>Trump losing support from Republicans in Miami, Indiana, Texas, Louisiana & elsewhere, with Democrats gaining support at MAGA's expense
Q: How can one tell when the likes of >>1489926 >>1489930 are lying?
A: They exist

How Democrats have 14 out of 17 seats in Illinois when Republicans have 40% of the vote in the state?
How do Democrats justify Prop 50 and further eroding representation for the 40% of California that votes republican?

>>1489930
Sounds more like Republican voters are assholes and Democrat voters aren't.

>>1489990
>How do Democrats justify Prop 50 and further eroding representation for the 40% of California that votes republican?
Its a response to Trump demanding that red states gerrymander to steal seats from democrats and making the practice legal
The proposal was approved by a majority of the citizens of California
You retards are free with joining democrats in banning partisan gerrymandering whenever you want, but as long as Republicunts insist on it Democrats are just following your rules.

>>1489995
So what was the Illinois gerrymandering a response to?
They've been 40% republican and 3/17 seats for decades now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois%27s_congressional_districts
Have you seen Congressional district 13? Lol

>>1489998
Republicunts can join in with Democrats to ban partisan gerrymandering whenever they want
Until then, Democrats are fine playing by republicunt rules and quoting shitty republicunt excuses for partisan gerrrymandering

You seem really angry that dems are playing by established rules for some reason

>>1490010
Every time Dems try to fight dirty it backfires on them I guarantee they get greedy and lose at least some districts because they carved the dem voters up to try and snipe Republican districts

>>1490010
If Democrats want to ban partisan gerrymandering, they can start it in their backyard.
California pushing to pass prop 50 and disenfranchise marginalized voters in California shows democrats aren't serious about banning partisan gerrymandering. Otherwise they would be trying to limit the amount of gerrymandering, not expand the amount of gerrymandering

>>1490025
>Guys just accept us giving ourselves more seats
>NO YOU CAN'T GIVE YOURSELVES MORE SEATS TO BALANCE IT OUT, WHY ARE YOU GOING TO MY LEVEL

Every time Trumptards claim Democrats are 'evil' and are failing, it backfires on them because Republicans vote for Democrats in Miami, Texas & Louisiana, and there's more of the same to come betwen now & the midterms, and cultists don't like how reality is proving their opinions wrong, so they're reduced to projecting, lying etc.
Anything but admit the writing's on the wall for them, and their little orange dog too.
...and even if what they're 'claiming' is correct, so what? All's fair in love and destroying MAGAts, certainly denying them of the right to any socio-political power whatsoever. And Republicans are doing that in voting for Democrats: as Miami, Texas, Louisiana etc proves. Reality doesn't give a shit about rightard snowflakes, and recent elections prove that reality's saying 'Fuck your feelings'.

>>1490035
>...and even if what they're 'claiming' is correct, so what?
Then it looks like it's time to up the ante, I guess. Which is what Trump has done and will continue to do. Make sure you have your passport ready if you ever want to vote again lmao

It's always hilarious to me how upset republicans get when democrats adopt their tactics.
They've been having as seizure about trannies for over a decade now, when all the democrats did was say "We'll allow people to ignore reality, like republicans do"
The best part is the trannies and christians act exactly the same when pressed.

>>1490039
Oh no, the republicans will continue their electoral fraud? What a grand change from the last dozen elections!

>>1489848
Literally every single time they have a natural disaster.
The fuckers even shoot at emergency rescue vehicles.

>>1490053
Source? Year/Location?

>>1490046
If Jesus can become a cracker so can I

>>1490054
Why do republicans always play dumb like this?

>>1490061
Not playing dumb, I'm genuinely asking in which year and which city did Republicans riot and shoot at emergency vehicles as a result of a natural disaster?

I haven't heard about this, can you provide a source or even just a year/city?

>>1490068
>Alright agents, watch out for rural idiots shooting at you.
>ZOMG FEMA IS IGNORING HOUSES WITH TRUMP BANNERS

>>1490068
Literally just look up the last hurricane to hit them, this shit is semi-regular and always on the news.

>>1490083
I already have been looking. I have found zero sources saying that Republicans burnt a city, rioted or looted, or shot at emergency vehicles following a natural disaster.

I'm starting to think you made it up. I would believe you if you had a single source though.

>>1490083
I think they even elected the guy they caught shooting at the helecopters in katrina.

>>1490084
So not only have you not done a single google search, you are LYING to me about it.
Why would I want to help you in any way after that?

>>1490085
Is it the same wendell bailey? His wiki mentions nothing on it.

>>1490088
How many Wendell Baileys could there be in the one city?

>>1490068
They can't pull up any sources. That's why all of their posts are DURR OMG GOOGLE IT or DERP HOW DA FUK DU U NOT NO DIS? If they had a valid source they would've given it already. It's typical.

>>1490087
I'm not lying. I can't find any information on republicans burning, rioting, or looting a city following a natural disaster. You don't have to help me, but your protestations are starting to feel increasingly desperate.

I found the news story about Wendell Bailey, the convicted drug dealer, who shot at a military rescue helicopter. That's a wild story but it's no where near the claims you've made.

You're quickly losing my trust, anon...

>>1490094
Note how, when accused of shooting at rescue vehicles, the republican searches for literally everything other than that.

>>1490093
>>1490094
god you're esl (cry about it)

>>1490093
Im starting to think this.

They were just so confident... Oh well he wasted a few minutes but I got to learn about the wacko who saw an army helicopter and thought "fuck yeah today's the day" so that was entertaining at least

>>1489848
When's the last time ANY mob burned a city?
I don't think that's a thing that happens in the modern day. I think you made it up.

>>1490093
>>1490097
>Republicans demanding spoonfeeding
lol, what morons.
Tell me, what city got burned down?

>>1490098
>>1490099
Here you go, here's a source. Let me know if you want something other than Wikipedia.

164 structure fires.

>>1490099
>>1490098
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_town_and_city_fires
None were burned by mobs, and of american cities it's almost entirely republican ones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arson_damage_during_the_George_Floyd_protests_in_Minneapolis%E2%80%93Saint_Paul

Oops forgot the link >>1490100

>>1490101
Man, republicans really need to actually invest in fire departments.
>>1490102
So the city didn't burn down.

>>1490098
>When's the last time ANY mob burned a city
Twin cities, 2020, George Floyd race riots https://youtu.be/v2SZDxmYRac
Minneapolis, 2020, George Floyd race riots https://youtu.be/jCq-eD3Fdmo

>>1490105
>>1490102
So when you say 'burned the city down' you mean 'burned an incredibly small fraction of the city'?

>>1490104
>But we didn't burn down the *whole* city
Pathetic

>>1490104
Don't forget, these are the same retards who 'peacefully' beat a cop to death and tried to shame America into apologizing to them over it

>>1490107
You guys have had larger amounts of fires in towns with 2,000 people.

>>1490106
I don't say any of that, actually. You asked "when was the last time a mob burned a city" and I showed you.
Shrimple as that

>>1490104
Dorothy, 164 structure fires is a significant bout of arson justifying the use of the colloquial "that city burnt down". You aren't winning anyone over by saying "it wasn't the whole city". It wasnt the great Chicago fire, but it was definitely a mob, and they definitely burnt the city, and they were definitely not Republicans. I don't think I can continue to pay you any attention if you won't at least meet me halfway and stop equivocating like this.

>>1490108
I mean, every side has retards who beat cops to death.
The republicans regularly shoot at them, for instance. And who crush them while invading the capital.
>>1490110
Anon, if we're counting fractions of a city, then every single time someone cooks counts.

>>1490109
Who's "you guys"?

>>1490111
You guys have had larger fires with more destroyed buildings in 2,000 person towns.
>>1490113
Why do republicans always play dumb like this when they're losing?

>>1490105
Dang leftists turned those cities into war zones, shit looks like it was bombed out

>>1490115
That just looks like any given southern city. They don't pay for infrastructure down there.

>>1490117
>But the south is like that too, in my mind!
You are retarded as fuck tho.

>>1490119
I mean, it is. You guys can't even pay your taxes.

>>1489846
>>1489928
>Republicans, can not, and will not stop until every vote is fraudulent and every map is gerrymandered
Fixed

>>1490114
I'm not playing dumb, you're just not a very interesting conversation partner. I've asked you to stop equivocating and you can't.

>>1490122
Why are you using equivocating when you obviously don't know what it means?

>>1490123
It means to speak evasively, and I'm using it because it's accurate.

>>1490124
So, when you are directly accused of being a republican, THEN you accuse someone of being evasive?
That's retarded.

>>1490105
That looks like a city being burned by leftists.

>>1490126
Parties are for sheep. I don't think you and I are going to have a productive discussion.

>>1490128
And now YOU'RE being evasive.

>>1490127
Look at this woman, freaking out over every little fire.

>>1490129
No, I am being very direct with you. I do not ascribe to any particular political party. My choices on any given ballot are made based on what I have learned about the candidates or propositions before me.

I don't think I'm going to get anything out of continuing to feed you, so you will have to try significantly harder than you have been to maintain my attention going forward.

>>1490129
They can't help it.
A city burned down? Actually, we mean a small fraction of a city burned down.
A republican? No, I'm actually a more obscure party that is identical to republicans.

>>1490132
>You see, I am actually a super special third thing despite voting a certain way every time
lol

>>1490021
Prop 50 in California went pretty well and passed with voter support.

>>1490099
>Durr Republicans did X!
>Where?
>OMFG GOOGLE IT!
>I did. Still can't find it. Do you have a source?
>LMAO REPUBS TOO DUM TO GOOGLE IMMA WHATABOUTISM TO SOMETHING ELSE NOW
And this is the quality debate I come to /news/ for.

>>1490132
So when exactly after learning Trump is a malignantly narcistic pedophile did you decide it was a good idea to offer him blind loyalty?

>>1490140
I thought it was to indulge in your tranny fetish as you huffed solvents
Honestly that could be any board

>>1490142
Let me know if you find an actual source on Republicans shooting FEMA vehicles during an emergency. Protip: "Just google it" is not a source.

>>1490143
let us know when you get a real job esl shill

>>1490139
Too soon to say it went well. If they manage to pick up the new seats, then it went well. Cant count your chickens until they hatch

>>1490140
>Hurrdurr dems burnt a city down
>Which one?
>This one!
>But that city was less than 1/30th burned down
>Hurrdurr still counts because I don't understand rounding or math
lol

>>1490105
Damn son

>>1490149
>>Hurrdurr dems burnt a city down
Said nobody in this debate until you brought it up. This is what's called "whataboutism", when you bring up completely unrelated topics.

Prior to >>1490099 who brought up cities being burned down?

>>1490154
You guys have been harping about it since
>>1489848
you dishonest retard.

>>1490155
Wow... Incredible.

So that post you linked was in response to someone saying:
>>Nooo the democrats can't fight fire with fire!
>said the arsonist
In response to gerrymandering! You dumb fuck. Holy shit. He's not being literal. He's calling out democrats for starting gerrymandering and then claiming they're fighting fire with fire when they've caused so many ... "fires" (gerrymandering in states).

>>1490157
English is hard for ESL shills
why be a bully

>>1490157
I know language is hard for you ESLs, but there's a reason I linked that post, and not the one before.
Since, as you said, the one before was not being literal. This one however, was performing whataboutism about burning and looting cities.
A topic you continued going on about, since you don't like the republican's long history of gerrymandering.

>>1490158
It's humorous that every single conservative reads at a sub-2nd grade level.

>>1490160
>>Nooo the democrats can't fight fire with fire!
>Why not have non partisan commissions draw all the districts in every state if this is so upsetting?
Is he talking about fires or is he talking about gerrymandering? Which is it?

>>1490161
Yes, it IS ridiculous you jumped to burning and looting here
>>1489848
as a response to
>>1489844
talking about gerrymandering.

But you in fact did this. If you want to blame anyone for being shamed in this discussion, blame yourself for performing the initial whataboutism.

>>1490161
>>1490162
Fuck, why are republicans so dishonest?

>>1490162
>you jumped to burning and looting here
>>1489848
Hey dumbass, do you see a (You)?

>talking about gerrymandering.
Okay great. At least you're honest for a change. So when the other post says
>>Nooo the democrats can't fight fire with fire!
>said the arsonist
Is he talking about fires or is he talking about gerrymandering?

>republicans do a thing
>democrats do it back
>republicans cry
erry time

>>1490164
He's talking about gerrymandering.
Your response, talking about burning and looting, was whataboutism.
>>1490163
is right, you're being staggeringly dishonest here by pretending not to get it.

>>1490167
>Your response, talking about burning and looting, was whataboutism.
>Your response

Let me try this again, you fucking moron.

>>1489848

Do you see a (You) in my post linking that post? No? Tell me, what does that mean fucking moron? Any guesses?

>>1490169
That you don't understand how 4chan works.

>>1490170
Really? Usually when you quote your own post there's a (You) at the end of it.... It's almost like I'M NOT THE SAME POSTER AS THAT GUY YOU KEEP CLAIMING I AM. You dumb fucking nigger.

>>1490171
Yeah you really don't understand how 4chan works.

>>1490139
That's not fighting dirty, if they tried to force it without voter approval like republicans do, then it's fighting dirty.

>>1490172
So when you said
>Your response, talking about burning and looting, was whataboutism.
That was wrong, because some other anon said that several hours ago. I never brought it up. Correct?

>>1490166
So California's prop 50 was retaliation for Texas's redistricting.
Why was Illinois gerrymandered? What is the justification for how Democrats have 14 out of 17 seats in Illinois when Republicans have 40% of the vote in the state?

>>1490167
>>1490169
When California passes a proposition meant to gerrymander their state, and the justification for said gerrymandering is "What about Texas", is that Gavin Newsom engaging in Whataboutism?

>>1490175
Why shouldn't Illinois follow the rules that Republicunts made?

>>1490179
>Republicans made
lol. lel evven. IL is gerrymandered to shit.

>>1490181
Describe why IL shouldn't be gerrymandered to shit in a way that isn't whining

>>1490179
What rules are you talking about specifically?
So as I understand it, The Elections Clause is Article I, Section 4 in the Constitution. This clause dictates that the "Times, Places and Manner" of holding elections for Senators and Representatives shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof. Which means State Legislatures decide the rules for elections in their state. And so if Texas gerrymanders their state maps, California can gerrymander their state maps, as it is the state legislature in both places changing the rules of how election clauses are handled in the state.
How do you turn that into
>Why shouldn't Illinois follow the rules that Republicunts made?
I am struggling to see how you reached that conclusion based off of what I know of how elections are handled within the US bureaucracy

>>1490183
>I am struggling to see how you reached that conclusion
Poor reading comprehension is a pretty standard conservative trait, sucks to be you

>>1490185
When you say
Why shouldn't Illinois follow the rules that Republicunts made?
What rules are you talking about, specifically?

>>1490187
Elbridge Gerry was an early American conservative who thought people were dumb and shouldn't be electing their representatives, and thought it best that representatives should pick their constituents and not the other way around.

Despite centuries of Democrats championing the will of the people, Republicans still prefer Gerry's autocratic preferences and create situations like in IL.

You copy/pasted your other text from chatGPT that agrees with other things I said, so do you want to concede?

Otherwise let me know why IL shouldn't be gerrymandered to shit in a way that isn't whining

>>1490187
>Why shouldn't Illinois follow the rules that Republicunts made?
IL has been gerrymandered for generations. Literally what the fuck are you talking about?

>>1490189
>Elbridge Gerry was an early American conservative who thought people were dumb and shouldn't be electing their representatives,
He was right

>Republicans seething democrats are copying them

>>1490196
Okay. And?

>>1490197
nothing, keep impotently seething

>>1490197
It's funny.

>>1490198
>seething
Who is seething? None of this matters, next census is going to bake a Republican majority into the house for at least a decade.

>>1490200
What's funny?

>>1490200
Its funny that Democrats in Virginia (a purple state) viciously gerrymandered the state using a slim majority in the statehouse?

>>1490202
You seething so much.

>>1490201
how?

>>1490203
>>1490202
>>1490201
This amount of seething is an incredible harvest for pointing out such a basic hypocrisy.

>>1490204
>You seething so much.
No, not really.

>>1490206
Bruh, if you're going to spazz like this I'm just going to stop replying.

>>1490207
>>1490208
bro you responded thrice

>>1490205
Population shift from blue states to red states. Also, the last census was innacurate and over-weighted pops in a number of blue states.
>Congressional seats are apportioned by pop.
10 congressional seats are going to shift from blue states to red states.
>Texas: +4 seats
>Florida: +2-4 seats
>Georgia: +1 seat
>Arizona, North Carolina, Idaho, Utah: +1 seat each
>California: −3 to −4 seats
>New York: −1 to −2
>Illinois: −1 to −2

And if they include a citizenship question in the next census, it could be waaaay more than 10.

>>1490210
>democrats move to red states
>states become more liberal
>MAGATS lose forever
There's a reason why Texas didn't actually move forward with its gerrymander
Try not to sperg out when you lose

>>1490215
I thought California was moving forward with prop 50
>We are gerrymandering our state because of Texas
>Texas backs down
>California moves forward with gerrymandering their state anyways in retaliation for something that never actually happened

>>1490216
>noooooo, you can't keep retaliating after we realized it was a bad idea
>you need to realize its a bad idea too
keep seething, lol

>>1490215
>There's a reason why Texas didn't actually move forward with its gerrymander
Texas has moved forward with its new map
>>states become more liberal
Not really, no.

>>1490216
California has been gerrymandered for decades.

>>1490208
Been there. There's no helping Dorothy, just let them wallow you can't save them anon.

>>1490219
>Texas has moved forward with its new map
so they're going to lose seats

>Dorothy
haha, the closeted tranny lover made you a nickname

>>1490039
Nice fanfic

>>1490176
>False equivalency
When they put the proposition forward, it wasn't what about Texas, it was done directly in retaliation to Texas Republicans forcing it on their voters rather than asking if they wanted it.
Why don't republicans put forward propositions on redistricting?

>>1490287
Can confirm, im Californian and the wording the prop 50 directly said "this is because of Texas" they didn't even hide it, here I'll paste the language below
>In response to Texas’ mid-decade partisan congressional redistricting, Proposition 50 would change the California Constitution to replace the final 2020 maps(link is external) drawn by the Citizens Redistricting Commission(link is external) with new maps drawn by the California State Legislature. The new congressional district maps would be used in any congressional election through 2030, including those in 2026, 2028, and 2030. After the 2030 census, the Commission would return to drawing district lines using the rules set out by law. This measure will not change the total number of Congressional districts in California.
https://igs.berkeley.edu/library/california-ballot-proposition-guides/november-4-2025-special-election/proposition-50

>>1490121
how are you this retarded?

Trump doesn't give a s*** about protecting the border and immigrants or Americans dying from fentanyl. That is why when Democrats offered to work with him to secure the border he purposely told the Republican base to not work with the Democrats so he could campaign on it and win the election and is also why he just pardoned a drug lord that was convicted in the US that bragged about stuffing cocaine up gringos noses.

Trump literally tried to overthrow a safe and fair election. He still claims the election was stolen and has had 60 court cases to prove it even by judges he approved of and has provided zero evidence. He also tried to get the military to intervene to stay in the White House. And the only thing that stopped him from doing it was his own people threatened to resign. Trump is literally the most corrupt president in US history. He is selling out the country in every way possible to the highest bidder. It's a corruption orgy and swamp on steroids particularly with his meme coin. If you're being investigated for fraud and want to have your charges dropped you just donate to him. He is quite literally destroying the foundations of the country dismantling so many institutions of science. He'll try to fire anyone who reports accurately what his administration has accomplished. He has given Russia so many concessions like no other. He's a traitor literally in every way. Did you know twice as many Republicans died than Democrats after the vaccines came out because of the right-wing media's culture wars to distract for the corporate elite?

Google these individual events.