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A Trump-authorized strike on Iran took place just hours after JD Vance lied to allay MAGA fears of another conflict without a clear end.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-melts-down-over-iran-war-no-one-voted-for/

President Donald Trump is facing a furious MAGA backlash after embarking on an unauthorized strike in Iran that he admits will kill U.S. citizens.

After being urged by sections of his own base not to enter another foreign war, the president announced on Saturday morning that he had launched a major attack on Iran as he vowed to eliminate the country’s nuclear program—which he insisted months ago had been completely “obliterated”—and bring about a change in government.

Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson told ABC’s Jonathan Karl that the attack on Iran was “absolutely disgusting and evil.”

Former Trump ally Marjorie Taylor Greene took to twitter to blast the president, accusing him of abandoning his “America First” principles.

“Now, America is going to be force fed and gas lighted all the “noble” reasons the American “Peace” President and Pro-Peace administration had to go to war once again this year, after being in power for only a year,” she said.

“NOBODY WANTS THIS WAR,” said the Trump-aligned, self-proclaimed misogynist Andrew Tate, a friend of Donald Trump Jr and the president’s other son, Barron.

MAGA congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna wrote on twiiter: “Hold our country in prayer right now. Hold our service members and their families in prayer right now. Hold the innocent people of Iran in prayer right now.”

Alt-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos was less diplomatic.

“Oh, how disgusting. F--- you, Mr. President,” he wrote.

“This is so wicked and disgusting and vile,” added Cassandra Macdonald, a writer at the right-leaning Gateway Pundit. “He is sacrificing our best for a foreign nation. What comes after blackpilled because I’m that.”
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Far-right figure Nick Fuentes posted on twitter: “@realDonaldTrump NO WAR WITH IRAN. ISRAEL IS DRAGGING US TO WAR. AMERICA FIRST.”

The strike took place in the middle of the night, without Congressional approval—which is required by law—as most Americans were asleep.

Only hours earlier, amid the biggest military build-up in the Middle East since the Iraq War, Vice President JD Vance had tried to assuage MAGA fears, telling the Washington Post that there was “no chance” the United States would end up in a years-long conflict without a clear end.

“Acts of war unauthorized by Congress,” noted Republican Thomas Massie, who had been trying to push through new laws that would force the president to seek approval before striking Iran.

But in an eight-minute video announcing the move, Trump sought to justify his “major combat operations” on the basis that Iran had refused to reach a deal to cease its nuclear program.

He then called on Iranians to overthrow their government when the U.S. military operation came to an end.

“It will be yours to take. This will be, probably, your only chance for generations,” Trump said.

He added: “My administration has taken every possible step to minimize the risk to U.S. personnel in the region. Even so, and I do not make this statement lightly, the Iranian regime seeks to kill. The lives of courageous American heroes may be lost, and we may have casualties. That often happens in war, but we’re doing this not for now. We’re doing this for the future, and it is a noble mission.”

The fact that American soldiers could die is set to infuriate the anti-interventionist wing of the Republican Party.

Only one day earlier, former Greene had posted an old video of Trump lamenting George W. Bush’s decision to go to war in Iraq.

“They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none, and they knew there were none,” Trump said at the time.
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The strikes marked the second time in eight months that the Trump administration has used military force against the Islamic Republic.

Last June, the president boasted that the military had “completely and totally obliterated” Iran’s nuclear enrichment facilities and it would take “years” to rebuild.

In his video overnight on Saturday, he claimed the regime’s nuclear program would once again be “totally obliterated.”

The strike also came just weeks after Trump ordered a military operation to capture Venezuela’s president, Nicolás Maduro. On Friday, he also suggested another foreign intervention: a “friendly takeover” of Cuba.

WASHINGTON, DC - FEBRUARY 27: U.S. President Donald Trump stops to speak to the media as he departs on Marine One on the South Lawn of the White House on February 27, 2026 in Washington, DC. Trump will deliver remarks in Corpus Christi, Texas before traveling to Florida to spend the weekend at his Mar-a-Lago resort. (Photo by Heather Diehl/Getty Images)

Iran responded to the latest strikes by launching a wave of missiles and drones targeting Israel. It followed with strikes targeting U.S. military installations in Bahrain, Kuwait and Qatar.

Iran’s Foreign Ministry issued a defiant statement, saying the country “will not hesitate” in its response. In a statement posted on twitter, the ministry said: “The time has come to defend the homeland and confront the enemy’s military assault.”
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>>1492668
>Last June, the president boasted that the military had “completely and totally obliterated” Iran’s nuclear enrichment facilities and it would take “years” to rebuild.
>In his video overnight on Saturday, he claimed the regime’s nuclear program would once again be “totally obliterated.”
Ok so the same guy who said it bordered on fucking libel to say that MAYBE Iran's nuclear program wasn't as destroyed as the US claimed, is now claiming actually just a few months later they're about to nuke us. Meaning he's either lying to justify this or he was trying to sue people for telling the truth.
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>>1492666
>Former Trump ally Marjorie Taylor Greene took to twitter to blast the president, accusing him of abandoning his “America First” principles.
As expected, Dems are tossing the salad of our sloppy seconds. The thing is, no one ever liked this Democrat plant.
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>>1492666
There's no troops on the ground (maybe special forces and CIA). We're just lobbing missiles into another Middle Eastern country. It don't matter. None of this matters.
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>>1492666
This is a bummer and a major let down from Trump.
I'm very disappointed with the Israel support.

I'll still never, ever, ever vote for a Democrat again. If there were another viable option I'd vote for that party though.
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>>1492666
Credit to tuck the cuck where it's due: He at least stayed by his principle of anti-war instead of suddenly re-writing his NPC programming like 99% of MAGAniggers have in light of this news to think War is Good and the War on Terror ended favorably for us.

That said he should have read the fucking documents in Project 2025 and realized that this was the end goal all along: Turn the USA into a police state so people couldn't protest like in the War on Terror and then proceed to repeat it.
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>>1492672
Copium
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>>1492669
>>1492671
>>1492672
>>1492674
Least obvious neocon damage control team
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>>1492669
Everyone knows Iran doesn't have nukes and its bolstering is an attempt to keep from getting invaded.

There's literally no reason for us to be over there other than Bibi told us to annihilate something, and Goilet (Goy + toilet) Trump got on his hands and knees and kissed his wingtip again (the wingtip is his uncircumcised penis)
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>>1492674
Thats how we know you are in a cult
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>>1492677
I could believe this is the last and final "Fell for it again" for the neocons, thoughbeitever.

It may not be damage control, the one and only argument he had over Kamala in the general election in 2024 was that Kamala's party was harping over War in Iran. Now that final layer has fell, he's just a shittier version of what Kamala would have been.
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>>1492679
>Cultist claims others are in a cult.
You'll literally never recover from supporting trannies, you loon.
And the country will never recover from the Clinton presidency.
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>>1492680
>Both sides would have invaded Iran and are equally bad
Least obvious vatnik
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>>1492666
I voted for this. Trump is my king. Our patriotic politicians must fly Israeli flags outside their offices. My children are at your disposal to make the Trump family wealthy and to defend pedos. Dems are just mad they didn’t think of this first
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>>1492666
I mean he's still not caught up to what Obama did yet
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>>1492683
All this and Trump is still the better choice than any Democrat.
Are Dems ashamed? No, they have none.
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>>1492680
Trump is anti immigration, that's all that matters.
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>>1492681
>Sure I'm dragged into another forever war BUT AT LEAST THE TRANNIES ARE OWNED
wow anyway that means you'll be signing up tomorrow at your local recruiter, right anon?
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>>1492686
A rock would have been a better choice than Trump.
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>>1492682
Yes.
https://www.dw.com/en/us-election-how-would-kamala-harris-deal-with-iran/a-69764798
Here's her cabinet admitting that they would have continued Biden's foreign policy.

What's next, nigger? Going to step on a land mine and get your body raped by dogs in a field? it's basically all you're good for, being wank material for my compilations.
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>>1492693
I think my major concern there was that Bill Clinton set the US on a downward spiral. The tranny support just shows you're lunatics forcing literal propaganda.
And last time Democrats took power they voted for Democrat pedigree and 40 or more year veteran of congress, Joe Biden. They did everything they wanted and it, predictably, raped the fucking shit out of the economy.
So, you and your lies and bullshit can go fuck off and eat shit.
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>>1492696
Quote exactly where she's going to drag the US into a forever war like trump is doing.
I'll wait.
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>>1492695
Incorrect, he makes retarded leftoids like you seethe.
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>>1492682
>Democrat cointel tries to erase that Biden bombed iran, too
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-iran-live-updates-beirut-strikes-hezbollah-ayatollah-rcna173983
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>>1492700
See
>>1492698
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You know JIDF, vatniks and the usual election tourists are freaking out given how much they're trying to distract from trump dragging the US into another forever war.
Odds are the US has already lost troops due to trump's incompetents given the level of their damage control.
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>>1492698
>If Harris wins the presidency, she is expected to largely stick to Biden's foreign policy script on key issues.


>He's starting to spin it
keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
How do you live in your gay little bubble without offing yourself? Seriously, do you wake up every morning and think "I sure deserve to breathe today despite not being able to read or having perpetual amnesia that makes me forget reality in one year increments!", then when you pick up a newspaper, do you also scream at it "YOU FUCKING VATNIK HOW DARE YOU REMIND ME REALITY EXISTED MORE THAN A YEAR AGO!!!!", because that's how you're acting.
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>>1492702
>vatnik
Stop being a mentally ill nigger for ten seconds and just admit you were wrong.
Russia WANTS the US dragged into a forever war with Iran. This is the best news for Vatniks all week.

>Odds are the US has already lost troops due to trump's incompetents given the level of their damage control.
Probably not this but they have already hit at least one school.
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>>1492705
>>1492703
>Vantiks seething that their lies have been exposed.
How's that 3 day special operation in Ukraine going for you?
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>>1492707
>Coping
I kneeeeeew it Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha you got the fucking quote from the article and all you can do is moan "v-vatnik" like you're a stuck pig being raped in a Ukrainian prison.
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>>1492707
Sorry that you're mentally ill and also quite stupid and can't read. That's not my problem. This is about Orange Nigger invading Iran for no fucking reason.
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>>1492708
>>1492709
>N-n-no U
Vatnik still seething that he failed to take over Ukraine even after trump betrayed them to his master putin and is now going to ensure that the Repblican get wiped out in the midterms because he's dragging the US into another forever war in the middle east.
Not a good day for the bad guys (you)
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>>1492710
Shut the fuck up you mentally ill nigger. We're talking about Orange Nigger invading Iran for no fucking reason. You have 50 other threads on this board to scream about the imaginary vatniks in your head who are attacking you when you say something fucking retarded and are proven wrong by reality.
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>>1492710
mald
>Not a good day for the bad guys (you)
you live in the third world LARPing as someone important. stop being the villain of /news/.
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>>1492714
>>1492713
>Vatnik having a total melty over the fact he's third world shithole is still bogged down in Ukraine even after trump betrayed them.
And now trump is dragging the US into another forever war in the Middle East which will mean the republicans get wiped out in the mid terms even with trump actively stealing the election
LOL
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>>1492697
>I think my major concern there was that Bill Clinton set the US on a downward spiral. The tranny support just shows you're lunatics forcing literal propaganda.
The tranny support is a smokescreen. I'ts literally Abortion but for the left.

>You think babies should be aborted?
>No, Unless-
>YOU WANT RAPED WOMEN TO SUFFER

It's just this except it's "YOU WANT WOMEN IN BATHROOMS AND CHILDREN TO SUFFER". That's all the tranny propaganda boils down to: another personal attack utilized during elections

What does trannies have to do with what is going on right now? Oh right, fucking nothing. You would have been better voting (LOL like that changes anything) for people who wouldn't get on their hands and knees to kiss Israeli toes. Is what I would say except this has been going on since before either of us were born
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>>1492715
>he's still malding
why do third worlders like yourself have such fragile egos? you told me to prove something and i immediately did and now you're having the biggest mald in this thread lol
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>>1492717
>U-u-u-Mad?
Vatnik seethe
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>>1492715
>And now trump is dragging the US into another forever war in the Middle East which will mean the republicans get wiped out in the mid terms even with trump actively stealing the election
Well at least you're attempting to steer the topic back on track, so I'll bite.
It's going to take a bunch to destroy Trump in the mid-terms. He still has approval of 2/3rds of his voter base despite this. Sadly, Republicans really are just that stupid
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>>1492718
why did you ask for the quote and then start screaming Vatnik after I gave it to you. did the vatnik appear after you embarrassed yourself?
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>>1492720
>N-n-no U
Are you done projecting?
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>>1492721
i didn't say 'no u'. i asked why you started losing your shit after i gave you the quote
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>>1492722
>>1492720
He's trolling, he's been doing this for months, he is /News/ dedicated schizo who tries to hijack every thread and every political topic into being about Russia and Ukraine because he lost an argument maybe 5 years ago and never recovered. Stop replying.
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>>1492722
>>1492723
>1 minute apart
Already running away since you couldn't change the narrative from irrefutable truth that trump dragging the US into another forever war in the Middle East?
Your masters will not be happy.
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>>1492719
trump's voter base is only a third of the country who wouldn't care if he raped children, which he did. And as for all the ones currently quibbling, I'm sure the conservative controlled media will create some other culture war issue to bring them all back into the fold like they always do.
What does matter is he's hemorrhaging support among independents and burning his party to the ground because of it, especially on issues that actually matter to voters like affordability given prices are still out of control. Blowing more money on wasteful stuff like forever wars in the middle east instead of investing it in the American people is only going anger voters even more to where he'll need to just crib off Putin again and outright steal the election for the republicans to still have control over the legislator.
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Israel First
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>All the war mongering shills get driven out, and now /news/ is all quiet.
What a smoking gun that they actually tried to raid /news/ to control the narrative.
And failed.
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>>1492674
Voting for dems is equivalent of chopping off your dick. even if I agree with their policy I will never vote as that would mean I know longer man no more.
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Looks like we got one hold out already pushing culture war cancer to keep the cult in line.
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>>1492674
>I'll still never, ever, ever vote for a Democrat again
You stupid sap, are MAGA gang of 4 will increase the turmoil on domestic soil, and you won't get a chance to vote in 2028.
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>>1492674
I think you are right
We already saw how the Afghanistan withdrawal looked like under the Democrats.
We saw how they eroded deterrence and allowed the Taliban to get billions in military equipment. This weakness signalled to Russia and to Palestine that they could attack and the United States wouldn't respond
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>>1492790
Holy fucking esl. Migagolems are fucking retarded pajeets confirmed.
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>>1492791
they really are that easy

https://youtu.be/ersYYsujVdc?si=KpAMT7zkZwty4xCy&t=9
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>>1492697
>The tranny support just shows you're lunatics forcing literal propaganda
But enough about the lunatics who voted for this tranny supporter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guve7Y856kY
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>>1492804
they love trannys, you're just feeding into their fetish
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Before Trump came back, Israel was a dead country. A dead country. Joseph R. Biden made it weak like he made America weak. Now Israel is back and Israel will be strong and Iran, Iran is going away. Iran will be a dead country and you can thank Trump!
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>>1492812
We wouldn't have to be doing this if Biden hadn't fucked everything up. This is all Biden's fault. He forced Trump to do this.
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>>1492666
>Middle East forever war
Dude Khamenei was dead before lunch on the east coast.
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>>1492695
And a rock would be 50x better than any Democrat.
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>>1492817
We removed Sadam from power after like a month of fighting. Look how long we stayed after that
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>>1492822
At least if the Dems won we wouldn't have to refund billions in tariffs paid by US consumers, or be embroiled in another conflict in the middle east, or protect elite child traffickers at the highest levels of government, or have the economy and labor market get flushed down the toilet, or have feds murdering US citizens and getting away with it. But yea, Dems would have totally been way worse...
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I genuinely doubt MAGA cares until they're actually impacted by it. They have no empathy (which is whatever, I know people will consider it a weakness) for their own neighbors, let alone a war. Maybe on Monday they'll give a shit since gas prices will go up, but this changed nobody's minds that was already settled with a red hat on top.
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>>1492824
How long did we stay in Venezuela after taking Maduro out of power?
How long did we stay in Panama after Operation Just Cause and the arrest of Manuel Noriega?
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>>1492822
I will vote for literally anyone over a narcissistic, lying, hypocritical pedophile
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>>1492828
>How long did we stay in Venezuela after taking Maduro out of power?
We took Maduro out of power and left literally every part of his regime intact. Nothing change except for who was leading it.
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>>1492831
>We
I love how you think you were part of the team.
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>>1492831
And in Iraq we systemically dismantled the Ba'athist Party, and left no part of the regime behind. How did that work out?
Taking Maduro out of power is regime change. Like killing Castro in Cuba would have been regime change
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>>1492832
Does it give you a stiffy whenever you use a line someone used on you? >>1492831 is still right.
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>>1492834
Would it have been regime change if Maduro died of a heart attack overnight? You cannot fucking argue that leaving the entire system, including every single corrupt official and general he used to steal the election, is a "regime change".
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>>1492837
The Soviet Union experienced regime change on March 5, 1953, when Joseph Stalin at age 74 suffered a massive fatal hemorrhagic stroke
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>>1492837
But they didn't. Maduro was arrested, and the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was assassinated. Their replacements face the pressure that their local security forces cannot protect them from further retaliation, and they are forced to play ball with the United States lest they face the same fate
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https://news.sky.com/story/iran-latest-israel-launches-preventative-attack-defence-minister-says-13509565?postid=11167072
Donald Trump has confirmed the death of the Iranian supreme leader on Truth Social.

"Khamenei, one of the most evil people in History, is dead," he has said in a post.

The US resident says Khamenei "was unable to avoid" US intelligence and tracking systems, and "there was not a thing he, or the other leaders that have been killed along with him, could do."

Trumps calls the move "the single greatest chance for the Iranian people to take back their Country".

Washington is hearing that many of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, military and other security and police forces "no longer want to fight", he claims.

Trump suggests he would now be willing to give them "immunity".

He adds that, along with the supreme leader's death, the country of Iran "has been, in only one day, very much destroyed and, even, obliterated".

However, heavy bombing will continue "uninterrupted throughout the week or, as long as necessary", the president adds.

Confirmation of Khamenei's death comes after a number of claims and counter-claims by the Israel and Iran earlier today (see 20:02 post).
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>>1492681
>made up claims about my belief
Notice how i dont have to make anything up to say you are culty
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>>1492845
>The US resident says Khamenei "was unable to avoid" US intelligence and tracking systems, and "there was not a thing he, or the other leaders that have been killed along with him, could do."
Wasn't he killed by Israel's strikes?
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>>1492842
>Their replacements face the pressure that their local security forces cannot protect them from further retaliation, and they are forced to play ball with the United States lest they face the same fate
Maduro's replacement paid Trump the oil fee he wanted and is now allowed to continue to use and abuse the power that, reminder, she helped Maduro steal.
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>>1492666
sounds like no more drones for putin, no more oil for chayna
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>>1492850
And the money went to trump's personal off shore account and not the American people.
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>>1492849
He's going to take credit for anything possible.
Either way Iran is going to be a shitshow since either the new leader wants war, or is a puppet of the US and we et Iraq 2.0 where billions are wasted propping him up.

The worst part is Iran was caving in negotiations, but they were a sham since the attack was planned months in advance.
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>>1492716
>What does trannies have to do with what is going on right now?
Nothing except prove I'm arguing with lunatics that don;t deserve any power. I guess you didn't get the context (it was in the post).
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>>1492666
How many fucking times do MAGAts need to be told "I told you so" before they fucking get it? How thick are their fucking skulls?
You got tricked. Played, fooled. He was lying to you. He was lying to you the entire time and you ate it up. He's just another rich asshole business guy in a suit. He TOLD YOU TO YOUR FACE that he doesn't care about you and only wants your vote. And he doesn't need your vote now, so you are worthless to him.
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>>1492679
>You're in a cult because you won't vote for infinite Mexicans
Are you going to send the browns home? Because you're not getting a single vote until you send every last fucking brown home.
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>>1492966
They don't care, Gaslight, Obstruct, Project.
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>>1492966
Given 4chan is being flooded with shills now trying to say regime change is necessary and a very good thing and we're totally not doing it because of Israel, something more insidious is afoot
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>>1492966
Well it works out because he's given me everything I wanted and then some: low gas prices, loosened gun laws and less illegals. It must be frustrating for you that he managed to take out leaders in two different countries without a single American dead. Meanwhile Biden couldn't even leave Afghanistan with the Taliban helping without fucking it up and getting people killed.

But I digress. Keep seething while I enjoy this term.
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>>1492973
4chan's always flooded with shills. Their words mean nothing.
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>>1492975
That's a given, the shill's post above yours is proof enough.
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>>1492666
>forever war
>literally over in one weekend just like venezuela

its funny how desperate you leftist traitors and monsters are for a big war all just so your wrong media manufactured anti trump believes are justified, yeah pray for millions to die because your worthless ego cant handle to be wrong about trump for almost a decade now all just because you are a brainwashed pig cattle.
Newsflash retard there isnt a war and there wont be a war, i know so sad for you. No one wants to die for the islamist cunts corpse who literally just weeks ago murdered 30.000 of his own citizens for protesting.
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>>1492666
>MAGA already having meltdown over trump dragging US into another Middle East forever war
>the only people ITT having a meltdown are the people who hate MAGA
LMAO nice try Satan.
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>>1492978
>>1492980
Most obvious samefag
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How is this a forever war? Iran's leadership us dead, the "war" ended in hours with no loss of American lives.
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>>1492666
please draft democrats and take away their homes to give to immigrants. its the largest demographic of karens and entitled POS imaginable. No one would care if they got sent to war and died for america oh and to make sure people aren't sexist make sure to send all of them
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>>1492983
It's not. I want to win an election by stirring up feelings of the Bush-Obama era of ME wars though.
Please vote for Democrats. Our platform is..."death to America", unironically
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>>1492983
>>1492987
>>1492993
Second most obvious samefag
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>>1492987
>Gets my fucking fee-fees hurt when people call me nazi or fascist. Preaches murdering ideology I am too stupid to engage with. Need somebody to kill the nasty dems for me, because a fucking corpse could run circles around my intellect.

Just do it. Just eat the shotgun and do us all a favor. Your family will be so much better off, and it's clear civilization left you behind a long time ago. I know you're angry and suffering, or why would you be here? Death is the end. Your suffering will end. The people you love will be so much better off. Kill yourself.
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>>1492983
>How is this a forever war? Iran's leadership us dead, the "war" ended in hours with no loss of American lives.
Iran is actively bombing US military institutions as we speak and at least three US troops are dead. Iran's leadership has been "wiped out" like every other year. Khamenei was fucking 86, you really think he didn't have a whole list of successors waiting for him to croak?
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>>1492983
>kill some geriatric
>declare the war over and won while US military and allied installations across the middle east get bombarded
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>>1493013
trump is a child too.
>“THEY BETTER NOT DO THAT,” Trump fired back in a social media post. “IF THEY DO, WE WILL HIT THEM WITH A FORCE THAT HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE!”

>I killed you guys and called time out, you can't attack me now, nah nah!
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>>1493015
Considering they already killed their leader right after apparently restarting peace agreement discussions, literally why shouldn't they? You've literally established any ceasefire requests will likely just result in more bombs. They have nothing to lose and this is exactly why you don't commit fucking perfidy.
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>>1492994
>>1492982
Wrongest turbofag ever.
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>>1493017
>Shill seething he's been exposed
LMAO
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>>1492967
You eat up shit like a fly, or a worm
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>>1493002
>Actively bombing US military institutions
>THREE troops are dead
Which is it? Because three troops is a fluke at best, you're talking about a fucking bombing. If they were competent at all, they'd get at least twenty in just one blast, you mouth-breathing mongoloid.
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>>1493039
>Which is it?
It isn't mutually exclusive you fucking retard. They're bombing US installations now. So far casualties are 3 dead 5 wounded THAT WE KNOW OF.
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>>1493044
You're missing a big and cynical flaw in the war monger shill's damage control where he thinks any American loss of life is acceptable. I'm sure the families of those 3 soldiers were already killed see it as just a 'fluke'

Work off that angle against the shill.
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Seems like a pretty quick forever so far
The snake is decapitated writhing as we bomb it into a thousand graves
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>>1493126
If the war's over, we can stop bombing, right? Killing the leader does jack shit as far as war goals for either side goes.
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>>1493126
Definitely. As soon as America took out Afghanistan and Iraq's leadership and army the violence completely stopped.
>GeorgeBushWithMissionAccomplishedBanner.jpg
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>>1492672
The Americans who died as a result don’t count as real casualties because they weren’t in Iran
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>>1493128
>>1493131
If we complete dismantle power like we did in Iraq with the Ba'ath Party, we leave a power vacuum, like how we allowed for ISIS to be formed, which risked American boots on the ground.
Arresting Maduro is like Operation Just Cause with Manuel Noriega.
What happened after Operation Just Cause? First they elected a leader sympathetic to the United States, then they lost in the subsequent leader who was to the left of the US aligned leader, but he was far more moderate compared with Manuel Noriega.
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>>1493142
NTA, but that's apples and oranges since it was Noriega being a single monolith that needed to be removed, in the case of Iran, it's the entire government., Worse yet, trump clearly has no plan for post war, unless it involves stealing oil to further line his own pockets, and good luck if the Israelis are put in charge of installing a puppet government.
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>>1493188
Wasn't there mass protests that precipitated this strike?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres
>On 25 January, Time reported that a specific list included 30,304 protest-related deaths registered in civilian hospitals for 8 and 9 January alone.[3] The same day, Iran International estimated the total number of deaths at ~36,500.[4] On 28 January, The Guardian reported that the death toll could be more than 30,000, and that less than 10% of deaths may have been officially registered.[11]
>Iranian authorities have imposed a near-total internet shutdown as part of their crackdown on the protests, restricting communication inside the country and limiting the flow of information about the killings to the outside world.
>Khamenei acknowledged that "thousands of people" had been killed during the protests, blaming American president Donald Trump for the massacre and calling all protesters "rioters and terrorists" affiliated with the United States and Israel.[19] The Iranian government put the death toll at 3,117, stating that 2,447 were civilians and security forces, and the rest were "terrorists".[20][5] The government published an official list of 2,986 victims
It sounds like the Iranian government shut down the internet and then blamed the protestors for their massacres.
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>>1492666
Remember who pulled US military out of afghanistan.

No, it wasn't Trump, it was Biden.
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>>1493192
Trump's plan. Also whatabout.
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>>1493193
Trump's le plan which was Obama's le plan
Both of which never left the drawing board.
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>>1493193
On 8 July 2021, President Biden announced that the official conclusion to the war in Afghanistan would be on 31 August 2021.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/8/mission-accomplished-us-speeds-afghanistan-withdrawal
>Biden delayed the May 1 withdrawal date that he inherited. But ultimately his administration pushed ahead with a plan to withdraw by Aug. 31
If he left on May 1st he would have been honoring Trump's agreement, everything that happened after that was Biden's possesion
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>>1493195
It’s nice to see Trump screwing up other’s administrations…
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>>1493189
The attack was planned months in advance even before these protests. So it's irrelevant to trump and his latest owner Yahoo's actions.
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all my countryment are dumb illiterate retards and will forever be trapped in the two party shit fling corporate oligarchy fest. get me the fuck out.
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Y'all need to ask yourselves; what do you prefer?

A war right now with airstrikes and 35,000 boots on the ground, lasting a few months at most?

Or all out nuclear destruction of every city in the world, one to three years from now?

Trump knows what tf he's doing; let him cook.
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>>1493207
>Y'all need to ask yourselves; what do you prefer?
>A war right now with airstrikes and 35,000 boots on the ground, lasting a few months at most?
>Or some delusional fearmongering bullshit that was never going to actually happen?
Tough choice.
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>>1493207
Imagine falling for WMD propaganda again after 20 years of Iraq and Afghanistan
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>>1493207
>Actually trying the WMD fear mongering in 2026
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If you voted for him, you deserve to be sent to the front lines. You knew what you were doing. Go represent your country
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>>1493207
But I thought Trump destroyed their nuclear program so badly it would take years to recover?
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>>1492827
>I genuinely doubt MAGA cares until they're actually impacted by it.
If they care, they won't blame the current admin.
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>>1492974
Most important thing is that he built the camps. The next step is to start conquering territory and began resource extraction. Trump needs to build up the empire. That is the way of making American great again.
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This is still cheaper than a movie ticket.
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>>1493212
How many Biden voters went to the front lines for Ukraine?
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>>1493263
How many tears have you shed for poor little russia
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>>1493269
Russia fucked around and found out, just like Palestine
If you support Palestine, you support Russia. You support attackers.
If you support Ukraine you support Israel. You support defenders.
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>>1493207
boots on the ground in Iran would make Vietnam look like a joke
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>>1493280
Not really.

'Nam was different. Poorly planned, and without the technological edge the US has today.

We literally have tech that allows soldiers to essentially see through walls using AI. Do you think Iran has that?

Not to mention the fact that we don't really know what's going on behind the scenes with the Optimus. It's entirely possible that Musk has chosen not to show his hand yet, and that the Optimus is already extremely capable in combat situations.

Imagine 35,000 BotG, enhanced to super human capabilities with AI, assisted by another 70,000 combat humanoids.

There's A LOT you can do with that, trust me.
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>>1493293
Sure man, I am sure invading a country that is pretty much Mega Afghanistan is gonna work this time
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>>1493293
>'Nam was different. Poorly planned, and without the technological edge the US has today.
You are incredibly retarded, the Taliban is much smaller and much less advanced than the Iranian military and they were giving US troops a hard time three years ago.
>We literally have tech that allows soldiers to essentially see through walls using AI. Do you think Iran has that?
spec ops may have the sci-fi equipment, but 99% of US troops will still be vulnerable to IEDs and ambushes, the casualties would be immense and push this war's popularity even lower.
>Not to mention the fact that we don't really know what's going on behind the scenes with the Optimus. It's entirely possible that Musk has chosen not to show his hand yet, and that the Optimus is already extremely capable in combat situations.
If the bots were combat-ready, Musk would have shown them off because he depends on VC money to run his businesses.
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>>1493293
You know this is the same line of reasoning they sold us in 2003, right?
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>>1493228
Also that, yeah.
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>>1493293
>Do you think Iran has that?
I think you're retarded.
Of course the US can fucking crush whoever it wants. But that means destabilizing the region and creating even more migrant crisis bullshit.
Israel is going to break away from the US, ally itself with India + China, and start fucking with the US after all this shit finishes you fucking idiot.

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