i've been busy and haven't had to do any work on my MX-5 this winter. in fact it's coming to a whole year since the last time it had any mechanical issues. 24 years old this year.

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Everyone has been on Christmas holidays. Welcome back /mg/.

>>28816315
Cute thread!

>>28816325
Classy

>>28816340
you may enjoy this manga
https://mangadex.org/title/675ee9b2-19bd-46f4-a592-e7eb256a465e/open-car-girls

mazdaspeed3's on fb marketplace talking to me like the green goblin mask
must resist.
>tfw still haven't replaced brake master cylinder on the miat
tomorrow...

>company retrofits miatas with a kit to be EV
>they want $20,000 just for the kit
would it really be that hard to buy a dead miata and put a gokart motor and battery in it? I really want a miata, and I think EVs are cool in principle but cant stand how gay they are in practice, but also cant justify buying a second car unless I can save gas or something with it

>>28816315
>>/lgbt/ is that way

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>>28816368
>miata EV
I don't think it's a great idea. There's a big risk that it won't feel like a Miata anymore. I'd pick another car with a shittier driveline for this.

>>28816368
>Take a slow lightweight car
>Make it's pig fat heavy with fucked up weight distribution
Yeah idk about that one dog

I have bad knees from an injury and test driving a miata while fun, left me in pain because its too small for me. is the mazda speed 3 comparable?

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>>28816441
>is the mazda speed 3 comparable?
No, it's a FWD hatchback. Did you try the most roomy Miata, the NC?

>>28816441
Definitely a touch roomier. They look like fun.
>tfw rehabbing l4/l5 bulge and stenosis
Pain…

How strict are autocross classes? I bought some things and want to buy more things for my car but I also want to try autocross soon and I don't want to be put in a class I'm not ready for.

I got the carbonmiata spyder grille which I doubt makes much of a difference but it's technically lighter and improves airflow.
I also got the roadstersport race exhaust. negligible hp gains but its lighter. I want to get the versus rear diffuser to compensate for the turbulence but I don't know if that would be an upgrade in SCCA's eyes. also thinking about the versus throttle pedal spacer.

>>28816315
redpill me on miatas
>t. car newb, buying my first car soon

It's winter so Miata is in storage. No one works on their cars and if they did no one would care to post about it. General threads are 10x better than the other generic ai 4chan threads they pop up.

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>>28816362
Yooooo, this got past the oneshot? Fuckin' A!

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>>28816907
Mine's not in storage for the winter I don't experience, though it is true I am not working on it (much) because I spent around $6k in just parts on it last year and would like a bit of a break from working on it for now. I put a set of paint matched OEM small tupperware on it that I found a good deal on but I am just enjoying driving it for now (especially given I'm balls deep into a clutch job on a different car of mine that isn't a Miata at the moment), not much to post about in /mg/ for me.

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>>28816315
I've not really been driving my Miata 'cause of the shitty weather and problems it's developed lately. There's a leak coming from *somewhere* in the driver's foot well, the genuine Mazda clutch master I bought squeaks after warming up / pressing the pedal for a while, and the rear window still has two gaping holes that have only now just started to drip in water (I have no idea why these haven't leaked in all the years they've been there, but meh). My brother has had his Scirocco in the workshop for the past 3 weeks while he waits for a new starter to come in, and I can't work on anything outside because of the aforementioned weather, so I've been unable to make progress on *anything*.

I feel like I'm in purgatory... -_-

>>28816907
>It's winter so Miata is in storage
pfft, casuals

summers get so fucking humid where I live that I unironically enjoy driving with the top down more in our 40°F winters

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I got a new head unit for my NA but I got someone else to install it, which was a huge mistake because they broke some trim and screwed through the little cubby underneath the radio, with the spikey side of the screw facing towards me. A little surprise for me whenever I reach for my wallet :)
Lesson learned.

>miataposted on the stock market thread on /biz/ this morning
>still getting roasted after several hours and multiple threads

>>28816884
they're reliable and affordable sports cars. not as much power as other sports cars but can be more fun to drive. if you're a fag that prefers driving fast in a straight line then look elsewhere.
car guys will either look down on you or think you're based. most girls think they're cute, especially the NA generation with the pop-up headlights.
avoid ND1 miatas since they're prone to tranny failure. I think NC miatas are the cheapest. they're the fat ugly middle child that nobody likes but they don't look that bad in person and they're more spacious if you're tall or fat.

>>28816925
This is why I always put a cover on mine. Not that it leaks, but to protect from the hot Australian sun and prying eyes. Ten years now, third cover with no problems.

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>>28816925
>>28816833
Saw your post in another thread about covers. No need to reply here.

>>28816315
I literally bought one of those toy ND for my Niece last Christmas. It came in pink. She really likes cars and I'm going to make sure it's the right ones.

>>28816362
BIG CUTE

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Things really don't seem to be going to plan, lately... Loaded my MX5 on my brother's trailer, and got roughly a mile or so up the road before I noticed smoke coming from one of the trailer wheels. After pulling over to inspect it, I can only assume that the rubber suspension inserts in the axle have given up the ghost, as the the wheel has flipped back on itself, in turn forcing the tyre into one of the floor supports and shredding a layer of rubber from the outer circumference. Fun!

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>>28817837
This is how everything *should* look.

>>28817837
at least the miata is ok

>>28818148
True, silver linings and all that.

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Picture time.

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>>28819965

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>>28819970

Is there any reason to get a ND Club over a Sport if you plan on getting aftermarket coilovers?
Like the main draw of the club is the suspension?

>>28816921
Looks clean. I like the contrasting black lug nuts, but why does only the left side look like it's heavily tinted?

>>28821430
Trick of the tint, I guess? Both sides are tinted with the same tint, but you're viewing the passenger side through the inside plus the soft top glass you're seeing it through is untinted as that actually voids the soft top warranty if you read the fine print.

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>>28821442
At least doing the doors stops people staring at you at the lights. Few more stickers on the back and you won't need to tint it.

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Is this too high mileage/ too modded for a daily driver street car? Says 145k

Zuckerburge site com/marketplace/item/1171031131507226

>>28821622
Sorry, says 156k. I'd have to fly out and drive it back so ass another 1k to expenses

>>28821112
limited slip differential.

>>28821632
>I'd have to fly out and drive it back
Do it if you're comfortable with the idea that you might be stranded on the side of the road after you buy it because your car is overheating and the guy who sold it to you "forgot" to mention that, and your 20 minute test drive wasn't enough to get it to the point of overheating. Speaking from experience after buying a 175k mile NA

>>28821929
Yeah I'm gonna pass mostly because the value of the mods isn't worth over the value of a stock car with possibly 75k less miles for 1-1.5k more. He actually told me 12k is the lowest for now

Do I buy my hispanic coworker's absolutely CLAPPED (yet mechanically sound) NA with 120k miles for $2800?

>>28823735
Is it restoreable for under 2k

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>>28823735
>CLAPPED NA
If it's really rusty, give it a pass. Also do some math on how much it may cost to repair it. Things like a new top may add up more than you think.

is there anyone who has managed to retrofit flip up lights in the post-flip up miatas?

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>>28824759
Not seen it, but I have seen an NB front fitted (poorly) to an NA

>>28823735
that sounds like a steal to me.

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>>28824759
i don't know but some japanese shop did this for the GR86 so hopefully they decide to do the miata.

>>28824804
dang, now if only theyd do it for the zzw30, but that things probably too curvy for it to ever work

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Did I fart? Seems quiet in here lately.

>>28825814
it's just dead for some reason.
maybe too many yankees. can't drive their miatas in salt-the-road weather.

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I put together a pretty good solution for the lack of spare tire on the ND, at least on initial testing. I got one of the Moss Miata trunk racks and it seems like it should work, but it does sit just a little taller than I would have liked. With a factory 17" wheel, the center sits right above a cross bar on the rack, and a simple U-bolt spare tire mount from a farm supply store fits the bolt pattern well. I just need to get some stoppers so it can't scoot sideways, and I recommend putting the top down before opening the trunk, because it's heavy now and the tire would probably go through the back window if fully opened.

With the top down, the trunk still won't open all the way, but it will stay open on its own and there's enough space to fit a carry-on bag through, which is pretty much all of the usable trunk space. The rack has a 50 pound weight limit, and I purposely hit some bumps today to test that, and I see no deformation in the trunk lid. There are some scratches in the paint on the inside of the trunk opening from the rack clamps, and those only happened after driving with the weight of the wheel on it, so I'll need to put some film over those spots.

I'll drive it more on Saturday and put some top-down highway miles on it to make sure that there are no weird sounds or wind effects due to the spare wheel, and I'll have daylight available to take pictures.

>>28825914
i have the same konigs on my NA.
based.

>>28821448
Why the fuck does that trailer need 3 axles?

>>28821430
it's because the interior is less lit than the outside. you're looking into a dark space through a tinted window vs looking out to a bright space.

>>28825952
They seem to be quite popular and I understand why. I appreciate that the inside is dark gray instead of the gloss black that most other companies selling polished-rim wheels are doing.

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>>28826763
Thanks. Figured it out when the owner said the back window wasn't tinted.

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>>28826409
>3 axles?
Thinking he's whipping down to the pub for a few cases of beer, a packet of darts and some ice.

>>28825914
how's visibility through the rear window with the top up?

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Watching Noryaro's coverage of an Itasha show and spotted a cool NB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=427gqfb0zO4

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>>28828324
and an NA with the NOPRO front.

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>>28825914
>>28828221
It's not terrible, but it is obstructed. I can see under the rack and enough around the tire to know that I'm safe to change lanes between a shoulder check and the mirror, but I'm tempted to move the spare off to the driver side.

I drove it for a couple days with the wheel mounted, on normal roads, bumpy roads, highways, highways with 40+ mph winds, and washboard dirt roads, and I love it. The first thing people should know is that the clamp screws on the rack need threadlocker. Not only for security purposes, but it doesn't take a lot of uneven terrain to loosen them up, and only 1.5 miles on a rough dirt road jostled them loose. When they get loose, they start scratching paint and adding unnecessary noise to bumps.

On the highway, with the top down, under 75mph, the cabin seemed a bit quieter, but the wind would hit me in the back of the head in a way that's not normal. No complaints, it's just different. Above 80mph, the wind noise overwhelmed everything, which is the same as my experience without the rack/spare. My 150 mile trip today averaged 30.9 mpg, which is about normal for me, but keep in mind that there were 40+ MPH winds for half of this trip.

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>>28828410
Here's a picture of the way I have the tire mounted. I used a few clamps from bicycle water bottle holders to act as stoppers, keeping the spare tire holder from moving sideways.

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>>28828412
This is an example of the paint scratching I was getting when the clamps loosened. It isn't much, but it's less than ideal.

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>>28828412
I'd be thinking of adding a cover for that tyre, like 4WD's often run.
I have a different type of rack for NA/NB by RS System. It pivots so you can open and close the top. Can't use it on the PitCrew though, as I filled over the frankenstein bolts.

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>>28828413
I put film over those spots and it doesn't seem to be getting worse. Aside from those little scratches, I'm satisfied with the rack and it's a nice way to have a full size spare tire. I'll experiment more with moving the tire off to the side, and a carry-on bag might be able to fit and still make it under the 50 pound limit.

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>>28828420
That's my plan, for security and for looks. I want to go with a plain gray cover to match the top, and because I have some gray kydex plastic that I'm going to turn into mudflaps. The fatter tires tend to spray mud across the side of the car and I don't care for that.

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>>28828420
>filled over the frankenstein bolts
>>28828422
>carry-on bag
A drinks cooler would look neat.

clutch hydrolics are fucked. FAWK I don't fawkin feel like working on the fawking car but I will do it anyway fawking hell... muddafawka fawkin master cylinder and/or slave cylinder suck my nuts. Suck 'em good too. and I'm replacing the hard line with a flexible braided stainless steel line too

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>the Cars movie was produced in 2005
>first Miata was released in 1989
>so back then she was underage
>does pic rel with her sister

Why are they such a little sluts?

In my opinion Mitsuoka is infinitely more cool than Miata and Fiat

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‘iata or liter bike? I can only afford one for now.

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>>28828676
Are you the Le Seyde owner? If not, you should get one of them. I'm a big fan too.

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>>28828712
This is the Mitsuoke Himiko, based on the NC Roadster.

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>>28828424
>mudflaps
Did you know the factory mudflaps are available on eBay? If you want to make your own, check out these listings to see how others have done it.
https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e1217352618
https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n1216551387

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>>28828672

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>>28828676
I really like the Rockstar. Extremely cool, and infinitely better looking than either the Miata or Fiata.

>>28828822
That actually looks pretty good, which is surprising of it's a mitsuoka

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can ND miatas really use the same filters as NA/NB? If so I might start buying filters from them so I can get more of those free flyin miata stickers. these are cheaper than the stock filters at my local dealerships anyway.

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>>28829547
Ignore this post, I answered my own question on Bosch's website.

>>28828672
What would be a good cheap (CHEAP) beater car for winter to avoid fucking up my car? electric is fine

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>>28829632
Depends where you live.

>>28829640
Upper Midwest, roads get salted like crazy, snow gets cleared from main streets within a couple of hours

What size wheels do people usually get for NAs? 14" tires are impossible to find and 15" isn't much better. Do 16" wheels fit fine?

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>>28830030
Most people stick to a 15", even when buying aftermarket wheels. There are examples of people using 16" wheels, and they will fit so long as you get the correct size tyre, but I think they look a little silly thanks to the "rubber band" look they have. Not sure why you're having trouble finding 15" tyres, they're extremely common and usually very cheap.

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>>28830030
I was the biggest ricer back in the day. Have run all sizes from 17" to 13". The taller the wheel and lower profile the tyre, the less it likes bumps. Run 185 60R14 Dunlop on 6 1/2" now and they're great, but have a 15' set up in stock if required. I would never go bigger than 15" again.

Lads, I have an NA with a short nose crank. Can I just swap in a crank from a later 1.6 or do I need a whole different engine?

>>28830841
Yes, but you also need the matching big nose (91.5+) oil pump and its o ring and gasket(90-93)/RTV (94-05), front main seal, timing cog, woodruff key, crank pulley and balancer, and crank pulley bolt. If you buy an oil pump (not harvesting it from a junk engine with the rest of these parts) I would recommend picking one for a VVT NB2 as they have the highest flow and fit big nose NA6.

>>28830073
>>28830518
Oh I see, I'll look at 15s then, thank you.

why is it that I have to start in 2nd gear to keep up with traffic? this is my first manual car and I can't tell if I'm doing something wrong or if everyone else is just driving insanely fast

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>>28831208
No idea if it's the same for NC and ND Miatas, but I know NA and NB's have very short gear ratios, which makes 1st gear in particular exceptionally short. This likely results in you not getting very far before having to change gear, which isn't an issue if you're quick enough, but if you're new to manuals then I'll assume you're not changing gear very fast, and thus are spending a fair chunk of time coasting while you find the next gear. Now consider that everyone else around you is most likely in an auto, and all they need to do is jab a pedal and go.

Obviously this is just a guess as I'm not in the passenger seat with you, but as far as I can tell, this is the most likely reason.

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would you?

There's an alleged rust free garage kept NA 1.6 near me that I'm checking out next week.

Is there anything particular I should look out for mechanically? Is $8k a good price for 120k miles stock if its as mint as they claim? Seller seems pretty firm.

>>28829632
I bought a suzuki sx4 a while back with low miles. There must have been a dealer in my area in the past, since they pop up for around $3k on marketplace/used dealers regularly. Manual transmission and a weird marketed AWD system that acts more like a 4x4. Great in the snow and fun enough to drive. No issues for me other than a rear diff seal that was easy to replace. Only downside is that the engine is crammed in there, so it'll be hard to replace the water pump when it goes.

>>28829632
>electric is fine
You do NOT want an electric car for the winter. If you think the quoted ranges are bad, in winter you can cut it in half and forget about running the heat at all.

>>28831221
I see. I've been deliberately waiting a bit to shift because I read somewhere that shifting too quickly is bad for the synchros or something.

>>28831581
That advice isn't exactly wrong, but you'd be better off double clutching if you're worried about the syncros, rather than just waiting a few seconds with the clutch depressed. Slamming each gear home like you're in the Fast and Furious is obviously not a good idea, but you realistically don't need to worry too much, just change gear at a reasonable but relaxed pace and you'll be fine.

Just as an example, the speed at which this guy - https://youtu.be/VrcZ5IR3jtg?t=121 - is shifting is perfectly fine for regular driving.

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Should I get this or a newer Miata?

>>28828664
>Tfw went through 3 clutch slave cylinders in 50k miles.
Fuck that's a real issue with these. It's only $50 but there's nothing like calling out to work, pushing your car off the street, and waiting hours for a tow just because of that damn slave cylinder.

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>>28831828
Whatever floats you boat, man. Driven similar model boxter and it's faster and more comfy than an Mx-5, but I won't be switching. Mx-5 feels more raw and exciting.

>>28832148
holy shit what are they feeding these birds

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Does anyone know the OEM manufacturer/part number of the downstream O2 sensor in the ND2 (2019+) Miata? Got a CEL suggesting I need to replace mine, the dealership quoted me an astronomical figure for the job and even the part alone is like $300.

From Mazda parts sites, the ND1 and ND2 O2 sensors have slightly different part numbers and it says the former is not compatible with my car. I've read on the forums that the ND1 O2 sensor is just a Denso part you can get from RockAuto for like 80 bucks. I can't confirm the source of the OEM part for the ND2 though.

The part number from Mazda is P518-18-861. RockAuto has a Walker one that is "OEM based" and while I like the sound of "based" I don't really know what that means. Any help on this would be based.

>>28832323
I'd just slap the Walker in it. Walker is a supplier for OE parts for many manufacturers. I don't know if they're the supplier for the ND downstream O2 sensor specifically but they do make good stuff, and the actual OE sensor price is a joke.

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why shouldn't I? other than the fact that they can't be found in 17x7.5 anymore

>>28834575
If you think of a curb they will wreck the spokes.

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>>28828822
Looks odd to me. Looks like a fake C2 Corvette.

>>28834982
That was the point tho.

>>28834575
These look like shit

>>28834585
surely you exaggerate
>>28835051
they're 4 lbs lighter than the OEM BBS wheels. wouldn't be getting them for their beauty

Flying Miata just dropped this vertical vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x7Fm7oRCKc&t=280s
TLDW: don't buy race parts for the street and you can trust our quality parts.

>>28832172
Laxatives

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>>28834585
Whenever I go somewhere in the miata

>>28835129
I am not exaggerating. Look at the spokes sitting outside the rim. Plenty of comments on these wheels on grassroots Motorsports too

>>28834575
Not a fan. Because the spokes extend out past the rim, they look heavy, which to me is a bad thing.

>>28835129
>wouldn't be getting them for their beauty
Yea that's for sure but at some point you have to draw the line. Spokes extending out past the edge of the wheel is ugly as fuck.

Miatas are for faggot ass trannies

>>28835904
>faggot ass trannies
You're the first I've seen here, but welcome, I guess. Just don't post any selfies, we're a SFW board.

>>28835596
ah shit brother yeah I looked further and found multiple "my S1's exploded" threads. one such jabroni who's on his third set in three years
>>28835807
>>28835852
noted, thanks for correcting my taste lads
I was hoping to achieve something lighter than hypergrams, and admittedly something less common

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are there any plug and play na miata itb kits?
I dont wanna deal with tuning do if there is the itb+ecu pre-tunedfor the itb that would be perfect
unless each engine is different and requires specific tuning

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>>28836716
>each engine is different and requires specific tuning
Yes. Your best bet would be to ask on the Miata forum.
https://forum.miata.net/vb/

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>>28834575
Brian Goodwin sells the Storms. What does he run?

>watching a miata video
>the guy randomly gets approached by 2 women while filming and gets their numbers
fuck my chudcel life

>>28836716
beer money motorsports ECU supports ITBs

>>28836716
I'm sure the base tunes are fine and run...but you're going to want to dial it in.

Since when are new batteries $250 Jesus fucking Christ, I only get 3 years from them anyways....

>>28831223
this is similar to my NB that I got a few years ago in a "bro deal" for like $2k. turned out to need a lot more work than anticipated. among other things the top was completely dry rotted. replacing the top is a pain in the ass to DIY and spendy to have a shop do, and if the top is fucked, I bet the carpets are, too. if I had to do it over again I'd pay the premium for a low mileage boomermobile that's always been garaged and well-maintained. having to fix leak after leak has been total bullshit, and I haven't even started in on the a/c, which needs complete replacement
>>28838166
raw material cost has skyrocketed, AGM is more expensive than flooded. you can still get flooded batteries for like $100 but they suck dick

>>28838204
>AGM is more expensive than flooded. you can still get flooded batteries for like $100 but they suck dick
I've always used regular (flooded) batteries with no problems (NA). Why do you claim that they suck?

>>28838343
the "economy" flooded batteries you can get from autozone etc. are "maintenance free", which means that without modding them you can't top them off with distilled water, even tho the electrolyte solution will still evaporate. this shortens their lifespan, sometimes right after than 1 year warranty expires. whoda thunk. dunno if anyone still sells the ones with built-in refill ports

also, flooded batteries can leak acid, which fucking sucks. unfortunately my NB has corrosion in the battery area because of that. one of these days I'm going to get around to cleaning that up

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>>28838422
Guess I've been lucky so far.

>>28838422
You can buy corrosion cleaner really cheap that will neutralize the acid. I buy $100-120 batteries from Walmart that have 3 year warranties. I actually had one start to die on my g37 a month before the warranty ended and they replaced it after doing a test. It's a good deal imo.

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>>28839116
I just oil up the terminals and disconnect the battery when I'm not using the car.

>>28840253
Man that looks gay as hell dude what the fuck lel

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>>28840293
Gets boring just posting stockers. That came from a Kaido Roadster prompt.

would you buy a 1990 miata for $5k if it lived it's life in the northeast and was repainted? I'm sure there's tons of rust that was repaired or still exists. Has an up to date inspection sticker if that makes any difference.

>>28840253
That is the coolest miata I have ever seen. Just needs to be a bit higher and fix the camber. Slamming detracts from the car, but its all there.

what are the demographics of Miata owners in your area?
my local Miata club seems to be 99% boomers. and I'm talking about the actual meaning of baby boomer, they all look like they were born before 1965.

>>28840409
For like 2k maybe but no not really

>>28840477
Is this about the Windy City club? Same thing

>>28819965
>>28819968
>>28819970
>>28819971
wtf I love miata now

Gonna go look at a 2020 Miata Grand Touring softop. Been my dream car since the ND came out. What am I in for?

My quest for a Type-1 4.1 ratio Torsen begins!

>>28840410
>needs to be a bit higher
It's LBWK's brochure car and has air suspension fitted.
https://libertywalk.shop/body-kits/mazda/roadster-nd-body-kit/

>>28840477
boombooms and xoomers. new miata ownership skews way older, kiddos are priced out of the old shit, and the cars give millenials anxiety or some shit
>>28840547
a damn fun car. stockers sit much too high and have too much body roll imo but most people don't give a fuck and hopefully you're one of them

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New top, good times.

>half decent miatas are $10000 now
fuck

>>28842081
He cute

>>28842951
Even more if you want a decent nc2

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>>28842081
got a new red top for my '93 in December, but its so cold here that i still havent been able to open it 2 months later (fabric too tight).

hopefully it gets warmer soon so i can drive topdown again!

>>28843311
Noice. Cool looking forest, too.
I haven't even put the new top down yet. It's 19C here so maybe I will on my beer run later.

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>>28843311
Nice. Been thinking of getting a red softy for my 93. Who made the top? Where did you buy it? Are you happy with it? Anything else? Thanks.

>>28843311
>jacket
>hat
>maybe gloves
>heater
top always down if it's not raining, cold feels good

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>>28844218
>Top, always down.

>>28840477
Last summer another young couple waved to us driving past in their NA, we were driving in my R129

>>28840477
I consistently see 2 Miatas besides myself around town.
One is a stock red NC driven by a lady who looks to be about 60-65
One is a white NA with rollbar and LED headlights driven by a lady who looks to be about 40

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>>28840477
It's either middle to old aged people with largely original and well-kept examples, or zoomers with ratty fuccboi examples, pic rel. Very little in-between.

>>28840477
My Miata club is 70% boomer, 25% GenX, everyone else in the 5%. It's fine because they still drive fast on our runs.

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>>28843708
The top is from Robbins. I really wanted a burgundy top but they stopped selling them online a few years ago, so I emailed them and they were happy to make me a burgundy fabric top as a one-off special order - talk about customer service!

I think it cost me about 1100, so it wasnt cheap, but it looks gorgeous and seems really high-quality - I am hoping it will last a very long time.

One thing to note - I went for the glass window (instead of plastic) for maximum longevity, but I only realised after taking delivery that the glass window makes raising/lowering the roof a bit more fiddly and requiring 2 hands. Its not a huge deal, but I like to drive with the top down as much as possible (and quickly yank it up with 1 hand when it starts raining) so in hindsight if i was buying again I would get the plastic rear window.

>>28844218
I totally agree. I am in rural England* and I actually think its the ideal weather for such a car - sunny in summer but not too cold or scorchingly hot - I have californian colleagues who say they almost never drive their miata topdown because its just too hot, which seems a real shame.

but in my case, I need at least one hot day to ease the fabric so I can actually raise and lower the roof - right now its stuck closed due to being a brand-new top

*the other big plus of being a bong is my Miat is an grey import RHD original Jap Eunos Roadster, totally unmodified and with all those little details like badging and carpets that the car nerds go nuts for

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uhhh bros

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>>28844592
>small
>defenceless
>underage
Checks out

>>28844537
Weird, every glass window NB I've driven I've been able to raise/lower tbe top one handed. Did you install the fabric straps that go between the rearmost bow and the rain rail that help support the glass window?

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>>28844537
>top is from Robbins
Thanks for the explanation. Sound good. I think I will choose the glass window too.

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>>28842081
>>28843326
Finally put the top down today. Two hands to undo the hooks, one hand to drop it. 10 sec tops, you can do it at a quick red light. Mine was $1600 installed with new rain rails (I'll do a water pump and belts, but not a convertible top. No idea what brand but it's glass with defrost. Got the car for $4k @130k completely rust-free. $2k for a top, oil, air filter, PCV valve, and battery and it drives like a goddamn dream for $6k. Now I just need an LSD.
People are paying more for auto FWD shitboxes.

>>28845092
>its the only miata that can seat more than 2 people
>two in the seats and 2000 new yorkers in the ash tray

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>>28845092
Smart. Always wet the asbestos before removal.

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>>28845098
Just got an NB. I've had an NA before, but this thing doesn't have a cupholder, it has an ashtray where the cupholder would be and a cigarette lighter. Even my NA had 2 cupholders stock. Pretty respectable t b h but I quit smoking 7 years ago.
Anyone remember going into restaurants in the '90s and it was so smoky you'd see smoke billow out the door at night? They were very different times.
>>28845087
https://youtu.be/9G0ro0ySwOo

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>>28845113
>NA had 2 cupholders stock
Nah, that was just a common accessory. Ashtray was stock.

>>28845122
Fair, I got the NA at 170k miles and never questioned it. Clearly a dealer option and not aftermarket at least. NB doesn't have something like that. I'll just bring a thermos of water behind the passenger seat.

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>>28845132
From what I can see on Yahoo, NB cup holder looks like it fits in a din slot.

>>28845143
I do have an empty DIN slot, but that looks like it would send a soda to my face during hard cornering. The NA one slung sodas into my lap frequently and it was more-sturdy than that thing.
I'll stick with a thermos or bottled soda behind the seat.

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>>28845113
>>28845143
No need. NB2 center console with 2 cupholders bolts right into an NB1. The hinges on the armrest lid don't break like every NB1 console too.

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>>28824759
Here's one from Chyna I spotted on X

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>>28845897
Dog says "get the top down dad"

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>>28816315

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Meaty!

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>>28847964
i've never understood the rubber band tire trend, thicc juicy-ass sidewalls look good

>>28847964
This yours? I saw your car on Reddit, looks phat

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>>28848647
>car on Reddit
I saw it on reddit too. I was intrigued as I have those same wheels. Had them on my NA and never knew they would fit on an ND.

>>28848549
>i've never understood the rubber band tire trend,
Makes the car feel extremely twitchy.

>>28848780
The Miata is already twitchy as shit. Rubber band tires slightly overinflated and aftermarket sway bars and it's dangerously twitchy, in a fun way.
Me? I'm running 14"s with thick sidewalls though I have a set of 15"s.

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warmth is back.
car is on jacks
street tires still inside
insurance suspended

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NA or NB?

>>28849809
NA for looks, NB for everything else.

anyone got a recommendation for a fuel pump for an NA that's just for street cruisin and picking up homos

>>28849829
Stock. Or a dw200. No walboros, those are extremely loud.

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>>28816954
what is?
it got bluetooth? i like retro stereos. i took my grandfather's old pioneer i'm gonna put it in mine but idk what i'll do about android auto or bluetooth

>>28838166
i put a lawnmower battery in my na it was like $100

Apologies if this is a retarded question, but what is stopping someone from just using a normal sized car battery in a Miata? Is a "normal" sized battery too powerful?

>>28849937
Shit ain't gram strategy at all my blackest of negro bretherin

>>28849939
I don't know what this means

>>28850023
It's an ironic satire of lightweight car people, and he's trying to make it racial, as if black guys are out there obsessing about curb weights.
Just ignore it.

>>28849937
No idea about NC's or ND's, but NA's and NB's have a pretty small battery as standard, and so the area for said battery is pretty tight, limiting the number of batteries you can choose from.

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>>28849937
Doesn't physically fit, at least on NB. You could get away with putting it on top of the trunk mat NA style, but then you'd lose trunk space when it's already at quite the premium.

>>28850041
What if your battery mount rusted to shit and you removed it, and therefor you basically had no problems with putting a larger battery inside? Asking for a friend, etc etc.

Basically, outside of the physical size difference and post size, would there be any issues running a normal sized car battery in an NA Miata?

I'm finding ND1s for $12-15k, ND2s for $17-24k, and NC2s for $10k (found a 63k mile PRHT 2010 6MT for $9k but could have some big issue).

NC3s are retarded money and cost around $15k at which point I'd rather just get myself over a ND.

Are ND1s worth the money over a NC2? I won't do anything more than intake/exhaust, 200TW tires, and coilovers as a weekend/autox car.

>>28850082
>Are ND1s worth the money over a NC2?
They're not performance cars so just pick the one you like the look of better.
>I won't do anything more than intake/exhaust, 200TW tires, and coilovers
All unnecessary.

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>>28850099
>They're not performance cars
Maybe if all you know is benchracing. Nice try though.
I'm sure your automatic nissan rogue is the most-raced car in America.

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>>28850102
>the most-raced car in America.
Oh wait, it's the Mazda MX-5! Big surprise! No way!
Why listen to professional racers when you could listen to neckbeards rave about 1320 times and displacement?

I understand that this varies greately based on maintenance and use, but what kind of longterm reliability do NA Miatas have? I got ahold of one a while back that I thought would be a fun project, and it has 289k on the odometer. Its a '90 with the 1.6

>>28850082
ND1s have a glass tranny, it's why they're so cheap

>>28850108
My last NA got 300k miles before some chick ran into me. I redlined all day long, did burnouts at redlights on the way to work - not a "I did it occasionally" thing, I did it every day, for over a decade. And took it to tracks where I ran it WOT to redline every gear for 2-3 hours straight. I didn't even do the coolant reroute though I did have a nice radiator and fans.
The 1.6? I've never had one so I don't pay much attention, I do know there's a "shortnose crank" version that has problems.
It's an engine that was specifically designed to be turbocharged, without a turbo. It has to propel 2,200 lbs instead of 4,000 (this is a big factor in reliability). It's pretty damn reliable.
That said, I would not buy a 1.6 with so many miles, it's gonna need $5-10k in restoration and why not hold out for a 1.8? Still better than paying 3-10x as much for an FWD automatic crossover with surveillance on maccas.

>>28850102
I actually owned an ND1, and I'm looking for another one, hence being in the thread. But you're talking about a car that is literally slower than a Fiesta.

>>28850104
>>28850121
(on a race track)

>>28850121
I'm aware. I had a car that would do 170+ mph by the time I turned 18, and I was on prescribed amphetamine at the time. I've done some shit. Over twice my life later I appreciate a car that gives you control over one that makes you go fast but puts you at serious risk of death. The older you get, the more aware you are that the reaper is standing right behind you.
You can meme about it, but when you push the limits long enough you learn which cars do what you tell them to consistently.
I like stunt driving, not laptimes or top speeds, though I used to.

>>28850114
Good to hear they're on the more robust side.


I bought it from a neighbor because I thought it would be fun to have a FR convertible roadster that I could go for drives in during the summertime. I've owned a vehicle with a sunroof before, but never a convertible. In terms of a project I thought it would be a good candidate partially because of its age and (relative to newer cars) simplicity and also partially because of the huge amount of aftermarket support that exists.

>>28850127
It is exactly that. It's the perfect project car.
I got one at 19 and changed the water pump, belts, and cam seals with just a book and some beer.
Everything is right there, there's always room to fit a normal tool and your arms instead of needing some proprietary nig-rig method or tool. It's well-documented because so may people race them, anything you want is a google search away.
They're amazing, and as you said, there are still parts for them. Cheap parts. Restoring a miata is much cheaper than restoring an MR2 or camaro - and you actually can do it yourself.

>>28850051
Had NA's for decades and only ever used the cheapest batteries. No issues, but I spray a bit of lanolin around the battery area to prevent any rust starting.

>>28850099
>they're not performance cars

yes they are, they're more performance cars than 90% of the cars on the road that shit the bed when you actually start pushing them to the limit either mechanically or drivability. look at how many cars cook or starve their engines when you start to really push them for more than a few laps

i just want to know if the nd1 is worth it over a nc2

>>28850109

it cant be that bad if im keeping it to stock power and not racing it every weekend, the nd1 issues seem overblown

>>28850123

the fiesta will want to tip over as soon as you give it too much grip and comes open diff with a engine that likes to blow headgaskets >100k miles. they also fall the fuck apart (RUST even in warm states) and explode the rear strut towers with abuse/stiff springs.

>>28850114

at this point a na is a vintage car as long as its not rusty it'll be fine imo

>>28850132
The tranny in the ND was designed for the 1.5 and really doesn't like the increased torque of the 2.0. Also some theories about failure rates going up when you have a LSD and sticky tires. ND1s (particularly the first couple years) have a high failure rate, and I don't think it's overblown at all. There's a reason for all of the TSBs and 4 revisions. Doesn't really matter how much you baby it, either, tho autox and track days will put more strain on it. ND2s and 3s have a dual mass flywheel and engine tune that mitigates most failures, but if you rag on it really hard or if you get very unlucky, 3rd gear's synchros go. 22s/23s apparently have more problems than other ND2/3s. A lot of people rebuild the tranny with the beefed up gearset from Walter or Mazda Motorsports, but that wasn't enough for the Global Cup cars, which get really robust sequential shift transmissions now

Anyhoo it's a common enough issue that I would avoid getting another ND1, not just because of it but also because the ND2 gets nice improvements to the engine. For a few thou more it's a no-brainer imo. But if you're dead set on the ND1 you do you

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>>28850132
>just want to know if the nd1 is worth it over a nc2
Probably not, unless you're choosing the ND1 with the 1.5. They are much cheaper than the 2.0 versions. My choice would be NC2-NC3 with the PRHT. NC has more room inside and less modern electronics.

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>>28816315
>mfw Miata is the car I'm never meant to have
Fucking lack of garage is killing me.

>>28816375
I didn't know Gargamel had a drivers licence.

>>28850051
If you can get it to fit, then no, no problems running a bigger battery.

>>28850132
if you come into an ND1 with extra cash, there are multiple NA and FI options to get more power out of it than a stock ND2/3. just be prepared to replace the tranny with one from an NC and take on a little extra weight as a result. still WAY lighter than an NC

>>28850143
See, I did not know there were 4 revisions already. The difference ends up being closer to $5-8000. The cheapest ND1s are $12-15k and the cheapest ND2s are closer to $18-22k. Really out of all the NDs I've seen for sale I only saw one (a 2021 RF for $18k with 90k miles) that had the transmission changed out (from a ND3)

How is the 124 Spider then? I just don't like the engine, it seems like it hates to rev and even a 124 Abarth is about as quick as a ND1.

>>28850158
PRHT actually makes minimal difference in pricing. NC1s are $5-8k and NC2s are $10-14k. I'm in America anyways (East Coast). I hate how NC1s look so I'm avoiding them unless its the right color (I like white or bright silver) with a 2.5 swap. NC2/3 front/rear looks so much better.

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>>28850238
>white or bright silver
Nice. I like them in light colours too. Also like the yellow and true red

>>28850051
Twelve volts is twelve volts.

>>28849884
It's a RetroSound Grand Prix
https://www.retromanufacturing.com/collections/retrosound-grand-prix-radio/products/retrosound-grand-prix-din-radio?variant=42443928764572

And yes it does have bluetooth

would you pay $1500 for a rusty piece of shit NA that (allegedly) runs but needs a brake line?

>>28850458
>Piece of shit
Maybe
>Rusty
Hell no

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>>28850247
its so hard to find a good nc because i want:
-light colored (majority are dark grey, black, or dark blue, red im on the fence about espc. copper red)
-nc2 or nc3 (i hate the nc1 front end)
-suspension package (again, most of them were open diff and its hard to tell online unless the seller posted a pic under the car, unless its a good deal a lsd is still like $1000 to $2000)

there's also a competition yellow car but its $13k, i would love competition yellow but its spitting distance from a nd1/fiat 124

https://www.fb.com/marketplace/item/920402613816798/

that and nc prices are on crack. nc3s cost as much or more than nd1s; like $15-20k. nc2s are $10-15k.

anyways why its probably been for sale for 6 months im not driving 3 hours for it unless mazda tells me it has a lsd and even then

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Man being NBA player tall fucking sucks when it comes to cars.
I wish I could drive a miat comfortably but I’m stuck with obese landyachts for all eternity.

What are all of your must do maintenance items on a na6?

Picking one up this weekend with 120k miles. Going to start with fluids, sparks, brakes, and tires. Timing and water pump were done 20k miles ago, but that's about all I know.

>>28850634
Apparently clutch slave cylinder is a known weak point, according to this thread.

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>>28850649
Yes, it is. I just got an nb and I have no intention of changing mine til it fails, but my na had the slave cyl fail three times (in 11 years).
>>28850634
PCV valve, it's cheap and takes 30 sec to swap.
Don't forget the trans and diff fluids.
Fuel filter if you feel like it.
Air filter, but you probably checked that already.
Check for play / deflection in the throttle cable and tighten it to spec.

>>28850662
>PCV valve
Good one. I'll do that when replacing plugs
>Check for play / deflection in the throttle cable and tighten it to spec.
Not a bad idea either

Also looking to snag either some OEM daisies or one of the 15" repros out there if anyone has experience with that. Currently has some 5 spoke wheels from I'm guessing decades ago

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>>28850634
Another common maintenance item is the shifter. Pull it out (easy) and replace the oil. Often the rubber pieces are damaged resulting on a poor shift feel.

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>>28850797
Definitely. The shift boots are torn by now. It's good to take these three bolts off and add a little gear oil to the space below.

>>28850797
>>28850801
The shifter actually felt great with no play, but I'll take note when I replace the turret oil. That was on my fluid checklist

>a decent NA or NB is 8-10k now
I’m getting priced out of miata ownership

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>>28850809
Prices are likely to continue to rise. All nineties-noughties sports cars are appreciating. The longer you wait, the harder it will be to find a decent one that's attainable.

>>28850827
It’s over

>>28850809
buy it now becsuse the price is only gonna climb

>>28850809
I just got a near perfect rust free NB for $4k (had to put a new top on, $1600) last month. My dad is 75 in a gardening club and this old lady in there had one but apparently never looked further than the kbb price. There are deals out there.

>>28850803
The boot itself doesn't make *too* much of a difference to feel, that's usually down to the plastic bushing that the bottom of the shifter ball sits in; the boot does, however, stop quite a lot of heat from entering from the trans tunnel. After a good run, my NA's shifter was a pretty effective hand warmer until I replaced the split boot below.

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>>28850809
I love my NA, but christ, I could not imagine paying more than 3,000 for it. 4,000 gets you a pretty decent one over here, and 5 to 6 will get you a near show quality one.

>>28850856
Maybe it's because of inspections or insurance, but older cars are always cheaper in Britain.
From what I understand you'd take that in for an MOT and end up with £10k in repair bills that you have to do to keep it registered.

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>>28850857
>From what I understand you'd take that in for an MOT and end up with £10k in repair bills that you have to do to keep it registered.
Nah, MOT's are pretty easy to pass, assuming the car hasn't been sitting in a field for the last 10 years. It exists to make sure your car isn't wildly unsafe, so most failures are just because a bulb is out, or your tyres are nearly bald. It's nowhere near as strict as the German TUV or Japanese Shaken. People will act like MOT's are somehow responsible for taking perfectly good cars off the road, but generally speaking, it just filters out the worst of the worst. I had a 350z that was getting a little too close to "the point of no return" in terms of rust, pic rel, and it still passed with only a few advisories.

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Would you? I'm seriously considering it.

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>>28851236
Yes, I like the solid red

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>>28851236
It also doesn't look like Soul Red Crystal so if you scratch it somewhere there's a good chance it can be fixed without a mark.

>>28851246
Man this thing looks so gay compared to the older models.

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Reminder this is the true successor to the nc

>>28851246
Like your ND. The black screen frame, mirrors, grill and other small details really make it pop. Good job.

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>>28851236
goddamn this guy has a nice garage, I'm fucking jelly. anyway yeah if the ppi looks good I'd go for it

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>>28851246
soul crystal red looks insane on an NB though

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>>28851249
Worse Italian Japanese collabs have happened.

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>>28850797
Make sure to do the whole kit, just the boots and oil might improve feel slightly (and help keep the oil in it) but the real improvement is in the bottom cup bushing and the big bushings with wave washers. Definitely some of the best money I've spent on mine, if you don't know for sure it's been done in the last 5-10 years order the parts right this second. You won't regret it. Good time to change the transmission and differential fluid too, while you're thinking about it. NA/NB takes 2.5 quarts of GL-4 in the transmission including the 5 speed turret, 2.0 for 6MT. (my personal recommendation is the Motorcraft XT-M5-QS "unicorn tears", well worth the cost for the shift quality) and 1 quart of GL-5 75w90 in the diff regardless of open/torsen, I use Redline there.

>>28851558
Shifter oil? I was talking to (OT) someone the other day about Peugeot steering oil.
Peugeot steering oil named filler cap anyone?

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>>28850488
good: its a lsd car and you can get rollbars for the prht that pass the broomstick test (im 5'8 so nbd)
bad: it somehow sold in the last 24 hours after being listed for sale for 6 months lmao

guess im gonna fix up my 2016 sti (steering rack, iag aos, radiator, a/c) and enjoy it this summer until i find a nice miata

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>>28851571
Yes, the NA/NB 5 speed, NC 5 and 6 speed, and Fiata all have a separate shifter turret that takes its own small amount of oil. It's far less picky about fluid quality than the transmission internals themselves, it mostly just needs to be clean and at the proper level.

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>>28850488
>competition yellow car but its $13k, i would love competition yellow
It might be the most expensive colour, but it will always hold that extra value. Yellow is totally based.

>>28851536
fuck I wonder how much that paint job costs

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>>28851941
Would think it will be expensive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVEU7XpAGWM

>>28850488
>im not driving 3 hours for it unless mazda tells me it has a lsd and even then
man you sound like a faggot, you literally cant even shift what the fuck do you want a lsd for kek

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I'm not going to make it.
I can't remember the feeling of the sun on my skin. The Sky is so gray and cold, but I remember it had another color once, When I would put the top down.

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Our response?

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>>28852109

>>28852109
bmwniggers, not even once

what mods are essential for a miata? aside from coilovers and some nice tires

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>>28852350
>what mods are essential for a miata?
None. You can enjoy them stock.

>>28852350
you named them

>>28852350
There are none. It's totally fine stock. If you do it depends on what you want and how you drive.
For me it's sway bars and an open intake. Intakes make them sound deeper, exhausts make them sound like bees in a can unless you cram 3 resonators in there.

>>28850238
yeah, 4 revisions before they threw in the towel and went with the dual mass flywheel. they could have put the NC tranny in but I guess they didn't want people whining about the additional 21kg

the fiata engine is kind of a dog. you can make it more responsive with typical tarbo mods and a tune, but the multiair system is janky and doesn't like it when the car sits for too long. after a few weeks the oil will drain out of the top end of the engine and you have to prime the system, which can be a pain in the ass. not a problem if you drive it all the time but annoying. love how the fiata looks tho
>>28852109
that's a couple of juicyass lawsuits. one against the retard bmw driver, other against mazda for the side airbags not deploying

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>>28852350
Padded arm rest. First thing I noticed after buying my NA was that my elbow would ache on the hard plastic cubby lid, so I glued some thick foam to it and covered it with vinyl, and the result is as you see. You can just buy one of those pre-made stick on pads from Moss or whatever, but I think they look a bit naff, whereas this looks like the factory did it (providing you don't look under the lid, anyway).

>>28852350
>aside from coilovers
Imo the best ride is nb on new billies
>and some nice tires
By nice you probably mean some fat meaty ones which completely ruin the driving experience

>>28852568
koni special active is highly underrated

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>>28852350
the ND's stock exhaust is kind of boring but several aftermarket options sound fun.
a lot of people like myself dislike the stock grille so there's the carbonmiata or zunsport grille for a look more similar to the spyder nd concept car.
and if you have an ND you might want a throttle pedal spacer.
none of these are essential though.

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>>28853209
>the ND's stock exhaust is kind of boring
my choice here. Been running it for a few years.
Deep and smooth. Get complements a lot for how good it sounds, especially since adding mid-pipe and header

>>28853385
I went with the SQTT and I fucking love how it sounds when it revs out

>already 6000 miles since last oil change on my 1.6
>already bought the oil and filter
>too lazy to do it in the cold weather

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/d/kirkland-2007-mazda-mx-miata-instant/7915997469.html

2007 80k miles for about $11,000. 3 owners, no reported accidents. Inside/Outside looks relatively clean.

>>28854398
I could be wrong but I thought that the true red (solid) was only available in the NC3, and the NC1 only had copper red mica. What makes me suspicious is that there is no pictures of the engine bay.
See:>>28850247
Looks nice tho

>>28854586
True red was available every single year. But also somehow I can't find a fucking manual nc2 prht gt with it

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>>28854590
Ah well, wrong again. Good thing my name is Anonymous. I can just sneak off for a few weeks, until the coast is clear.

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my boat is taking on water.
found the tail light gasket in stock on Bofiracing so can sort soon (only did them 3 years ago. only drivers side seems to be leaking though).
did the scuttle panel mount on passenger side last weekend as I had water coming in there as well. Will do the drivers side when I can be bothered (if it ever stops raining).

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>>28852109
https://youtu.be/X2W8CaRAc6s?si=-Xih43r8Qd8fM7Wv&t=1153

Boom Boom

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>>28852350
Torsen/LSD diff, it transform the car.

>>28850228
I feel like an nd1 with mods gettijg maybe 190 is not worth it when an nd2 stock is 180 and can have 240-260hp for a mere 7k in mods

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After 10 years of Sunday driving the clutch is on its way out. Its not slipping but the biting point is relatively high. What other things that can be changed "while in there"? Bearings are a thing, any seals that can be done?

>>28856139
Assuming 5 speed NA/NB: Rear main seal and new RTV for its carrier, rear oil pan half moon seal, transmission input shaft seal and input shaft housing gasket (required for access to the seal), transmission output shaft seal, and of course the throwout bearing and pilot bearing that should come with your clutch kit. I'd recommend getting your flywheel resurfaced rather than a new lighter flywheel, especially if it's a daily driver not seeing any track time. Make sure to liberally grease the transmission snout surface the throwout bearing rides on and the contact points on the clutch fork where it touches the slave cylinder pushrod, throwout bearing, and the pivot ball, then very lightly grease the input shaft to clutch splines. You'll have to remove the shifter, so that would also be a good time to do a shifter rebuild as well if it hasn't been done, as new oil for the transmission and shifter turret. If you were thinking about a coolant reroute, having the transmission out of the way will make accessing the rear of the head much easier. Grab a little blue loctite for the driveshaft bolts if you don't already have any.

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>>28856218

What the fuck was Mazda thinking making the next gen Miata hybrid. FUCK

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>>28857661
I'm not seeing that. Sauce?
https://www.motor1.com/news/788105/mazda-argues-synthetic-fuel-save-miata/

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>>28857661
>>28857669
It's just another retard falling for clickbait.

Hell! I don't even know where to get real automotive news anymore. Everything is click bait, AI slop, unsubstantiated rumors, and complete fabrications.

These days if it's not an official press release I wont read it.

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>>28857694
The source for the Motor1 story was this Dutch article.
https://autorai.nl/interview-opvolger-mazda-mx-5/