>>28846048
Smol pp

>>28846048
>honestly i dont get the small portion of people on here that hate these thing
because they occasionally inconvenience me slightly by obstructing my view in traffic therefore they shouldn't be allowed to exist

>>28846048
back to the farms Cletus. fuck off from civilization

>>28846054
as soon as you break 65 in the left lane little buddy

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>>28846048
>my presence on the road is actually acknowledged
i actively hug traffic lane when a nutruck/suv is oncoming. its been very comical with lately with all of the snow and ice that has narrowed the roads lately

>>28846062
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>>28846048
>driving is scary!

>bumpy as fuck
>trash handling
>nothing to haul
>can't fit in a garage

>>28846097
do /o/tards think every truck is a 80's dually?

>>28846048
>fuck ton of room on the inside
What are you doing that you need a fuck ton of room every day? Are you pretending 99% of the time it isn't you, your lunchbox, and your laptop bag? The rest of your points are irrelevant.

>>28846048
>daily driving farm equipment
Do mutts really?

>>28846105
im tall, trucks have insane amounts of legroom without fucking the second row and no its rarely just me lol.
>The rest of your points are irrelevant.
good luck getting out of the snow every morning with your mustang anon or better yet make any sort of money off it when you get bored of it.

a Subaru Outback is better in the snow than any truck

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>>28846099
Are you implying 80s trucks are *smaller* than 2026 trucks?

>>28846116
>gets "stuck"
>puts truck in 4hi
>dont even step on the gas
>moves through snow like nothing
or
>gets stuck
>fiddle with jap shit awd for 10 minutes
>suv pulls you out because they're tired of waiting for your "totally capable" crossover to get out of the snow

>>28846050
>outs himself as obsessed with cocks
>>28846097
>outs himself as a citycel who pays $300 a month for a cuckspot in a shared garage

>>28846113
>good luck getting out of the snow every morning with your mustang anon
Right, as we all know literally nobody has ever dailied a car anywhere with snow. Literally never happened in the history of mankind. Makes you wonder why they even bother selling cars anywhere with snow. Or how did you do it before now since according to the OP post you've only had a truck for all of two weeks.
>or better yet make any sort of money off it when you get bored of it.
Even more reason to not buy a truck, why pay 80k for a FORD Super Triple King Cab Extra Tiny PP Edition when you can get a lightly used Mustang for literally F R E E since they have no resale value?

>>28846048
Blocks my view.

>>28846136
>Tiny PP
thinking about penis
>lightly used
not even going to humor this.

>>28846117
the comment was more about the bumpy ride and bad handling.

>>28846117
They are smaller
A 1980s f250 is a "small" as a 2019+ ranger

>>28846117
Nta
I think he was implying they were bigger
Which is laughably false

>>28846048
>>rides high af you can see everything
Because its an arms race. If people around you start getting trucks then you need something even higher

>>28846143
Lmao no

>>28846144
Yeah, I accidentally mistyped my post. But, after considering deleting it, I laughed at the idea he'd see (my error) and do whatever he could to reaffirm himself despite it.

>>28846048
>they're everything you need.
Trvke. Now go ahead and splurge on a Raptor. Mine fucking FLOATS over the road better than a 70s Chrysler New Yorker. I'll never go back to a car shitter unless it's something absolutely rapidly mad like a Mono or a motorcycle engine swapped stripped mini. Fuck cars. They're shit.

>>28846126
subaru is full time awd with an active differential and your gayniggermobile truck has open diffs

>>28846192
My truck has an active diff in front and a diff lock in the rear

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>>28846192
>subaru is full time awd
and yet they're always in snow berms and stuck in parking spots
>gayniggermobile

>>28846159
Why do you always act like cars only exist in a perpetual state of bumper to bumper traffic? Is it just like that where you live?

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>>28846050
I drive small cars and big trucks and my cock is big

>>28846048
An omder volkswagen bug is still more practical than this

>>28846192
That's irrelevant when the traction control won't let the vehicle move.

>>28847845
in reality the kia soul is all anyone needs. only compact cars and crossovers should be street legal.

>>28846048
i have a fullsize truck i use for towing my projects around. i would absolutely never daily it. they drive and handle like utter shit and are a pain in the ass to maneuver.

>>28846048
>Mutt 1500
>better anything
It's nothing more than an eyesore.

>honestly i dont get the small portion of people on here that hate these things, they're everything you need.
Europeans essentially. Fox and grapes attitude. Every single European that is given the opportunity to drive a truck becomes a trugger instantly. Like you said, because the truck is designed to do truck stuff, anything that isn't truck stuff is extremely understressing for the vehicle and you don't have to work about over working an EconoEfficiencyBox.
Now go get some big ass truck nuts on that hitch and really piss off that Prius driver with his "got my lobotomy at Claire's" sticker next to the pride flag.

>me high me see everything
What can you see that you can't see in a regular car?

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>>28846097
>drives a truck without factory air suspension

peasants, please.

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>>28848300
cleavage of the girl in the car next to you.

>>28846048
When it snowed here in flyover land a few weeks ago, I saw countless overconfident truckfucks nearly losing it in the tiny bit pf snow we got. My dinky fwd mom car handled it like a champ though. Love that thing like you wouldnt believe. Sad that the suspension is starting to go.

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>>28846048
>honestly i dont get the small portion of people on here that hate these things, they're everything you need
the drive feels retarded unless under load, proportions are huge because of an epa loophole and they cost as much as a nice sports car. used to do the driving for my general contractor and besides the high vantage point, it was boring to drive and the lifted f250 was a pain to load by myself. one of the contractors we used drove a crown vic with a trailer everywhere which was extremely kino.

if they were cheap and proportioned properly i would be a lot more understanding.

>>28848348
that saucy kitty is just begging for the D

>>28848327
most truck fags either
A: never use 4x4
B: forget that they actually need to drive different in 2wd
or
C: always use 4x4 and bitch that their trucks a pos when it goes out.

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If you're not a plebeian this is your daily and you have a truck as second vehicle to do truck things if/when truck things need to be done. Anything else is poorfag cope.

>>28846097
>can't fit in garage
Bus rider detected

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>>28849645
>Lives in apartment
>Has a pickup truck

>>28849506
>I want a vehicle that destroy my spine as a dd not the comfortable zero stress trug with 12" of articulation, 3" shocks, and 35" of pothole ignoring tread

I daily a gmt800 RCSB v8 4wd, it's fantastic. I can park in the city and it's the perfect amount of beat up but runs great.

>>28849657
yeah this one is pretty embarrassing honestly

>>28849506
I just have a bunch of pickups as secondary vehicles to my pickups. Shit's comfy bro.

>>28846048
>better transmissions by default
big yikes

>>28851816
ECSB Masterrace checking in

New pickups are too fuck ass big, i prefer 20 year old truck proportions. Also Longbed>>>>>> shortbed

>>28846048
An SUV does all of that while being significantly shorter, easier to maneuver and having more interior space. And no, you, nor the 80% of people who buy a truck, don't need a bed.
The vast majority of truck owners would be able to do everything they need to with an SUV, station wagon or even a hatchback in a lot of cases. They're only buying a truck because of perceived social associations, just following the societal zeitgeist instead of thinking for themselves and what's actually best.

>>28852065
>And no, you, nor the 80% of people who buy a truck, don't need a bed.
> let me put this bleeding dead deer in the carpeted trunk

>>28852068
yeah if only there where something to line the cargo area. like a 'cargo liner' if you will. too bad that doesn't exist... and they stopped making tarps. but then again no one hunts anymore so that's a non-issue.

>>28852065
>I am one of the 20%.
Feels good bro.

>>28852079
i shot a deer during season and you are not gonna fit a fucking deer in a trunk dumbass

>>28852065
What's your definition of "SUV"? Because you're going to need at least a Tahoe sized SUV to compete with the interior room of a crew cab half ton and that's going to be just as long if not longer. Also SUV's cost a lot more than trucks. You can also cover a truck bed and turn it into a SUV but you can't turn a SUV into a pickup without a Sawzall.

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>>28852140
Guess which one of these has 45 cu.ft more interior space and is $6000 cheaper.
>cover a truck bed and turn it into a SUV
You crawling through that itty-bitty window?

>>28852178
I thought you would post a crossover. Nice try but those interiors are not remotely comparable. A pickup with a tonneau cover has much more cargo capacity. If you go with a cap/canopy/camper shell/whatever yeah you have to go in through the back but you have a separated cargo area which is good for hockey gear, lawn and garden materials, hunting kills, dogs, etc. Have fun cleaning your SUV after that.

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>>28852203
See >>28852079

>>28852203
>I thought you would post a crossover.
Even though they were never mentioned...
>Nice try but those interiors are not remotely comparable.Yeah because an SUV actually has usable interior space, unlike a truck.
>If you go with a cap/canopy/camper shell/whatever
That wouldn't be interior. Interior space was specified because OP said "fuck ton of room on the inside". Inside means inside the cab. That's what this discussion is about.
>Have fun cleaning your SUV after that.
And have fun making disingenuous bad faith replies pretending you don't know what the fuck a tarp is.

This is the answer to the OP, people hate trucks, not because of trucks themselves, but because truck drivers are retards who shouldn't be behind the wheel.

>>28848177
can't you turn off TCS? or did nu-cars remove that feature?

>>28846126
>gets stuck
What's that like? It's never happend in a Subaru.

>>28846192
you can buy trucks with lockers

>>28846048
Everything you listed is done better by (good) midsize or large sedans. The only purpose for a truck that justifies the drawbacks is towing or contract work

>>28846048
>fuck ton of room on the inside
Good for you, you must be hauling a lot of stuff or be some kind of farmer. I personally don't need a "fuck ton of room"
>rides high af you can see everything
No shit, and everyone else who drives normal cars can't see shit when surrounded by fuckhuge trucks. And once every vehicle on the road is a massive truck you won't be any better off.
>4wd so you arent useless in 2 inches of snow
I bet that even a fwd sedan with winter tires would perform just as well in w inches of snow as your truck.
>bigger engines and better transmissions by default
But you're stuck driving a massive truck
>my presence on the road is actually acknowledged
lol
>actually practical so my resell value wont tank
Doesn't seem very practical to me. Plus, are you really ending up with more money after taking into account increased gas usage and maintenance costs?

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>>28846048
They have worse visibility to their immediate surroundings. Running over children is a real risk. I have to be super careful with my truck in parking lots that might have children because of how tall it is and I can't see behind the tailgate.

>>28848327
>t. Head canon
Trucks are nice OP. Enjoy it.

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>>28846048
>full size
Step aside vehiclelette. Real big boi vehicle comin thru.

Everything a truck does for 98% of people 99.9% of the time can be accomplished by installing a tow hitch on a sedan and buying a 6x6 foot trailer.

>>28846048
>and better transmissions by default
What the fuck were you driving before to make you think that?

>>28846129
He's not wrong about the garage part, 20' garages are standard in modern developments and most half tons won't realistically fit in that. I bought my midsize truck in large part because of that, but I've since moved and now have two 25' garages so I'll probably upsize to a half ton when I get my next truck.

>>28846048
>>4wd so you arent useless in 2 inches of snow
We got 4-6 inches the night before last and the number of lifted 4x4 truggs I saw today that still had snow on their roofs was absolutely pathetic, literally every other one if not more

>>28852216
>Even though they were never mentioned...
Which is why you're a fucking retard for using a crossover as an example.
>Inside means inside the cab
Do you have any fucking idea how cavernous a modern half ton or larger cab is? Are you sitting in the cargo area of a SUV or a crossover? Sitting room vs sitting room there is no comparison. You're the disingenuous if you refuse to believe a truck bed can't be used as a trunk.

>>28846048
Lmao
Look at that list of objective facts
>Resale value!!1
XD

>>28853015
i have a half ton and a 20 foot garage lol, it's just a bit of a squeeze. it's a 30 year old house i think the newer ones are bigger

>>28853153
What does the empty space around your seat matter, past a certain extent? How fat are you, anon?

>>28853202
It's just more comfy being in a big vehicle even if you're a little twink. We also don't live in 200 sq.ft flats. Sorry we don't subscribe to the "live by the minimums" way of life like you people.

>>28853233
>It's just more comfy being in a big vehicle even if you're a little twink
Then get a semi truck
>We also don't live in 200 sq.ft flats
I can move around freely in my living space as opposed to my vehicle
>flats
You're not even American lol

>>28853102
>Honey, can I borrow your Kona? I can't take the truck because they haven't plowed yet :(

>>28853240
>>flats
Why do they do this? I swear amerilarping wasn't a thing until fairly recently

>>28848319
I have a small car but this post gave me a vivid memory of car pooling back from a field trip in 7th grade and the suv kept pace with a chick with great tits for a few miles. The older brother of my best friend in front seat and me behind him just getting eye fulls.
I should get a suv.

>>28846048
>>28846048
you described a big SUV but bought a pickup.
you wrote all that and never mentioned the bed.
a pickup is a working truck, get yourself an Highlander Durango Hellcat or Bronco.

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>>28846048
They feel appropriate in Australia (at least in the rural areas) but they stick out like a sore thumb in the cities.

>>28853200
Must be really tight if it's a newer one, at least on paper a current F150 crew cab would only have like 3/4" of leeway.

>>28853458
a motorbike has the same effect because you're sitting higher and you can get closer.

t. pervy biker

>>28851816
the gmt800 was the last thing of worth gm produced, easily the best gas truck for its time.

>>28852918
>not backing in
trucks and suvs already beg you to back in with their horrible turning radius anyways, if anything thats all on you and if its not a toyota or nissan, trucks from 2010 and up have a back up camera you have to literally try to hit someone.

>>28854144
Not to mention the biggest problem, all the other truckolds will think you're not a real, real man if you don't tactical park

>>28846143
LMAO bro even obs f250s were like 21ft what are you talking about? a current my f150 is 7 inches longer than an old highboy

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>>28852978
I like to pretend I'm in the Baja 1000 and all the spics I speed past are spectators to my glorious victory though. No sedan does that.

>>28852978
People always say this shit but I have to wonder how many have actually tried it, because trailers are a gigantic pain in the ass.

>>28857672
6x6 is puny as can be, are you serious?

You will never drive a real pickup truck. Your truck has no scratches, no dents, no "tire pressure sensor fault" message on the dashboard. Your truck is a land yacht for larping faggots twisted by marketing research divisions into a crude mockery of an authentic work vehicle.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your truck's gaudy appearance behind closed doors.

Tradesmen who drive fleet vehicles are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of hours of coffee breaks have allowed tradesmen to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even land yachts with a bit of dirt on them look unnatural to a tradesman. Your plush trim is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to cut off another driver he'll know what you are the moment he sees your shiny polished trailer hitch.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll go to a dealership, buy an SUV, and trade in your toy truck. Your buddies will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They'll tell you it looks great and joke about how surely "the wife" made you do it to haul kids around. Your land yacht will be bought by another insecure man with a weak ego, and all that will remain is a $85,000 car loan at a modest 15% APR.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

>>28852978
A wagon with a trailer is even better
>>28857672
I've had both, trailer every day of the week. Being able to walk onto the trailer (low to the ground) is better than lifting things up to chest height. There's more usable floor space in a trailer, you can abuse the shit out of them, ramps are lower angle for wheeled objects, and you don't have to carry it around when you don't need it. Unlike truck owners that use the bed for moving loads once a year.
A wagon with a trailer is even better because you have a dry weather sealed space for the shit you actually care about. Sure you can put a canopy on your truck but then you can't use it for tall or forklifted loads, unlike a trailer.

>>28858191
kek

>>28846136
>why pay 80k for a FORD Super Triple King Cab Extra Tiny PP Edition when you can get a lightly used Mustang for literally F R E E since they have no resale value?
You're right. Just buy an F250 or F350 super cab 8ft bed with a Godzilla engine and XLT trim for 52k.
>But I don't need to haul houses every day
Who gives a fuck? Brand New $52k, big ass engine, no cylinder deactivation, OHV, 4x4 and locking diffs, torque band from 1500 to 5500rpm, no turbo, big naturally aspirated breather, and port injected. What more could you need?

>>28846050
>see truck
>think of penis
curious

>>28858204
I won't dispute that in terms of cargo loading and carrying, trailers are hands down better, but it's all the bullshit that goes with them that's the issue. A truck still drives normally with a load in the bed (other than maybe longer braking distances if it's really heavy), but towing means major impacts on speed, maneuverability, and vehicle stability. It also means having to store, register, and maintain an extra "vehicle," even if it's relatively cheap compared to a car or truck.

>>28857951
In a lot of ways that makes it worse, small trailers are unstable as fuck, suck to back up, etc.

>>28858525
>Brand New $52k
>What more could you need?
A better price.

>POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

>>28846048
A 30 year old woman made this thread

>>28858618
The whole market could stand to take a price cut. Not an exclusive complaint to truggs

>>28858558
>suck to back up
It is not at all that hard. Though apparently every trugg owner only even backs in to park now because they all have cameras so the skill floor is rock bottom

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>>28848319
First and only valid argument in favour of tall trucks

>>28858670
Small trailers do suck to back way more than large trailers. Anhydrous tanks and hay wagons suck even more. It's science.

>>28846048
Pickup truck drivers are the modern day 90s-00s mini-van drivers.

>>28846048
>4wd so you arent useless in 2 inches of snow
my fwd polo with 64 horsepower on quality studded tires will murk the shit out of your TRUGG on all-seasons when real snow comes

>>28857285
what do people think of gen 1 vs. gen 2 Raptors? I'm currently in a 2017 Gen 2 (recently paid off) with only 80k miles. So I think I'll be ready to start putting in the 'for fun' mods soon. I make a rule for myself that I don't put in fun parts in my car unless its paid off and I own it outright.

However I am considering trading in the Gen 2 for a Gen 1 with similar mileage. I'm just not sure how much I trust the 3.5 Ecoboost and the 10 speed vs. the old reliable 6.2 and 6 speed. Aftermarket support is MUUUUCH bigger for the Gen 2 though. I think I'd feel retarded trading in a newer vehicle for an older version that is significantly less powerful (the 3.5 Ecoboosts are retardedly fast if you tune them).

>>28858670
Like the other anon says, small trailers suck, and it's still way more of a pain in the ass than just driving a truck. There's a reason companies use rigid trucks instead of semis for local delivery etc.

I almost never back my truck into spaces btw, for one thing that makes it impossible to load shit into the bed, and I'd rather have the camera and sensors for backing out of a space, since otherwise you have to pull like 5 feet out of the space before you can see if there's oncoming traffic or people.

>>28858714
You know big Mantis and Cobra?

>>28858525
if you're going to get a gas truck get a half ton. heavy duty gas trucks where made around their diesel's, gas engines where an after thought. sure you'll save more money up front with the cheaper engine but that 10 mpg maximum isnt worth it in the long run. dont even get me started on towing mpg. gas hd trucks are fleet vehicles not made for the average consoomer. for the love of god if you're getting an f250 or 2500 get a diesel i dont care if you "dont need it" you'll look even more retarded filling up your truck every 3 days.

>>28861611
It's not 1980 grandpa. Modern gassers make 400+hp and a lot of torque at decently low RPM's. An 8 or a 10 speed also helps a fucking lot. A modern gasser will get 12-15mpg city and up to 20 highway which isn't that far from a modern diesel. Towing with the gas vs the diesel is a couple MPG difference. Is that 1-2mpg worth going for the $10k diesel option with expensive as fuck diesel? Also 3/4 tons ride more than nice enough to be comfy daily drivers and road trip vehicles. They're definitely not dedicated fleet trucks.

>>28846126
Never once got stuck in my 2016 forester living in Michigan. I would still take a truck over a forester though

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>>28846048
I think small truggs are the way to go

>>28846048
We hate the new trucks that have fucktons of plastic on the outside and inside, are disproportionately huge, and have tiny beds. Trucks were cool until about 2007.

>>28862656
Half and 3/4 tons aren't really disproportionately huge. They are huge on the outside but they're also massive on the inside as well. It's the """midsizes""" that are the size of a couple decade old half or 3/4 ton yet have a slave ship interior.

what an organic and natural thread
wow!

>>28862699
Really, all the OP wanted to post in justifing pruning a thread was
>big trugg
>my presence on the road is actually acknowledged

>>28862735
this board is filled with euro econobox gay boy posts anyways, no one here actually likes cars id rather a thread where gay retards fight than /o/tards bouncing and creaming on some economy car but 2000's or muh old car good new car bad.

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>>28846048
welcome to the dark side brother
trucks are basically lifted muscle cars and always have a good power to weight ratio, and usually more biased towards producing torque

>my presence on the road is actually acknowledged
OP is 5'6"

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>>28863351
Next models will cease to have windows, all replaced with cameras to display on interior screens.
They will disallow human steering since "that could lead to an accident".
They'll be built like safe-boxes and will all have blazing lights and horns that will screech at-all-times when the vehicle is in motion, so that anyone outside of the car will know it's coming.

...because it's safer that way!

Oh!
And make sure you pay General Kiassandai Forgeuot BMaservrolet Co. $4,544 a month for the rest of your life to permanently rent their car!