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remider: henry ford wanted and excuse to not pay back money he owed the dodge brothers who provided the industrial machinery ford needed to build the model t. henry found out the dodge's wanted to start a competitor car comany and wanted to sabotage the dodge brothers' operations.
henry ford was literally a thieving lying nigger and an honorary jew. while the dodges won they died before they ever saw a cent.

in before a disingenuous liar posts the dodge logo from the 1920s that was never used on a single car when they were alive

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>>28856355
Unfathomably based truke knower enjoyer.

>honorary jew
That explains his books a lot actually.

>Go look over at those international jews, nevermind the domestic greed right in front of you goyim and get back to work.

Fords the reason we have the current structure of the work week too. Which sucks ass. Thanks ford for robbing 5 of the 7 days I get to exist.

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>>28856360
he went so far right he looped around to left again
he didn't like jews because they were the only people who were morally worse than him, and he couldn't stand playing second fiddle.

>>28856364
>Gold medal of Olympic gymnastics goes to

If jews are so bad, why haven't I heard of a Jewish suicide bomber Mr Muhammad? Why was it the whites who made planned obsolescence?

Seems like a fictional scapegoat for you to blame all your problems on. Jesus was a jew btw.

>>28856367
>If jews are so bad, why haven't I heard of a Jewish suicide bomber
you can't take the money with you when you're dead

>>28856369
And yet, pharaohs and vikings buried their riches with them.

Curious!

>>28856346
>every product you love is either getting turned into a subscription or turning into the cheapest chinese plastic you can find
in the last two years my shampoo, body wash, and shaving cream all changed their formulations and are worse now while also being more expensive, so i had to go through the whole shit of finding good stuff again and i get mad every time i think about it

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>>28856367
>Jesus was a jew btw.
And yet you're not supposed to snitch on a jew and they did just that like bro this ain't the win you think it is bro. KWAB

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>>28856370
pharaohs buried their treasures in pyramids specifically to prevent jews and subsarahans from looting them
vikings didn't have to deal with swarthoids much but they still had the same idea

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Fuck you.
Fuck you for slandering a good man's name.
Fuck you.

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>>28856373
fucking old spice discontinued the flavor of antiperspirant I liked a couple years ago (coffee and amber) and I still haven't found an adequate replacement

>>28856379
henry ford was not a good man, he was a liar and a moron who nearly ran the company into the ground several times throughout his tenure and had to be removed from power by his own family so he wouldn't piss away their fortune.

>>28856360
>84 hour 7 day weeks were heck'n better!!@!
>old Henry was evil making us work less than half the time for far more than industry standard
Holy shit, moparfags are actual retards.

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ford stopped people from repainting cars they were the original no fun allowed ferrari before it was cool

>>28856384
>forgetting ford's abhorrent working conditions and high turnover was literally the reason they had to go to a 5 day workweek in the first place
imagine getting a paycheck from a guy so mistrustful of accountants he doesn't even do math and just vibe-paid all his suppliers by weighing bills on a scale. you'd have better odds in vegas.

Just say you hate the antichrist bro and I'll have a discussion with you about henry ford's bad behavior.

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>>28856379
>AI summary
>citing Wikipedia

>>28856374
The Romans cruxed him, not the jews.

Always remember that. Doesn't change the fact Jesus was a jew btw.
>>28856378
Clearly you don't know your history if you think those 2 groups buried their riches because of graverobbing. You think they'd bury their personal servants too in order go stop them heckin looters? Kek stupid kraut sucker.
>>28856384
See
>>28856391
Not every place was 7 day work weeks, you had total agency if you were smart.
>>28856393
You probably voted the antichrist in schizochan.

>>28856441
>The Romans cruxed him, not the jews.
The Bible itself says the blame for the crucifixion was on the Jews multiple times, only Jews say "No uh the Romans did it, we only threatened to riot if they didn't and chose a murderer to release instead when they gave us a final chance to stop demanding his crucifixion!"

>>28856346
the lawsuit basically said that you can't not pay your shareholders their dividends just because you decide your for-prodit business is now a charity for its staff

>>28856355
That's nice Fletcher, so why include a nigger e-celeb with your post?

>>28856449
Yeah it was bound to happen but it's s till easy to be mad at Dodge for it because they basically railroaded the decision (which would have happened regardless) into happening when it did. Buying part of a company to use its profits to spool off competition is obviously a move against Ford's interests, and he would've been stupid to not at least resist it.

Ideally he would have just bought them out but you can't force someone to sell their stocks. The only way Ford could have pulled that off would've been to sell his company into another larger one that was private, which would have forced a sell of minority shares.

>>28856446
>Didn't quote the scripture
Many such cases from the larping religious types.
Yeah bro, I'm sure it was all of da jooz who put a pike through christ and not the romans and 1 dude named judas.

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>>28856441
>The Romans cruxed him, not the jews.
the jews wanted him dead too retard

>Clearly you don't know your history if you think those 2 groups buried their riches because of graverobbing. You think they'd bury their personal servants too in order go stop them heckin looters?
thats exactly why they did that dumbass
regardless if they truly believed they could take their riches with them when they die, the hard fact is you can't, so the best way to keep the criminally dishonest from looting the place -- or worse, assuming the identity of the deceased and claiming their possessions including whatever power they wielded when alive -- is to bury everything and seal it off as best as possible.

also to be totally fair jews as a mass cultural group are also victims of zionist chicanery and i only harbor ill will against those who use religion as a cudgel against their fellow man to deceive and commit evil, regardless of which sandnigger sky magician they believe in.

>Not every place was 7 day work weeks, you had total agency if you were smart.
yeah pal tell us how it was a full 90 years before your dumb ass was conceived through rape behind a texas gas station

>>28856398
Pro tip, you can write up an article saying whatever you want, then post it on your website and AI will cite it as factual

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>>28856454
Matthew 27, verses 15-26:
>Now it was the governor’s custom at the feast to release to the crowd a prisoner of their choosing.
>At that time they were holding a notorious prisoner named Barabbas.
>So when the crowd had assembled, Pilate asked them, “Which one do you want me to release to you: Barabbas, or Jesus who is called Christ?”
>For he knew it was out of envy that they had handed Jesus over to him.
>While Pilate was sitting on the judgment seat, his wife sent him this message: “Have nothing to do with that innocent man, for I have suffered terribly in a dream today because of Him.”
>But the chief priests and elders persuaded the crowds to ask for Barabbas and to have Jesus put to death.
>“Which of the two do you want me to release to you?” asked the governor. “Barabbas,” they replied.
>“What then should I do with Jesus who is called Christ?” Pilate asked. They all answered, “Crucify Him!”
>“Why?” asked Pilate. “What evil has He done?” But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify Him!”
>When Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but that instead a riot was breaking out, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “You bear the responsibility.”
>All the people answered, “His blood be on us and on our children!”
>So Pilate released Barabbas to them. But he had Jesus flogged, and handed Him over to be crucified.

1 Thessalonians 2, verses 14-16:
> For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea. For you suffered the same things from your own countrymen as they did from the Jews,
>who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out, and displease God and oppose all mankind
>by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved—so as always to fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them at last!

>>28856460
This nigger is so transparent with his shitty little reaction images and Dodge dickriding that I can call him out with 100% accuracy ROFLMAO

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>>28856469
you can seeths at me all you want but it won't make you any taller little man

>>28856449
>you can't not pay your shareholders their dividends just because you decide your for-prodit business is now a charity for its staff

Yeah man! Fuck the people who actually do the work! The people who contribute nothing other than cash deserve preferential treatment.
I'm glad there are smart people like you who see how things should be. Live for next quarter or don't live at all brother.

>>28856464
Nice try pajeet, but obviously this is AI slop. Try again.

Doesn't change the fact the roman governor got em.

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>>28856479
the fact is Ford still increased wages (only to match inflation) and improved this factories (only to increase output) even after losing which meant he never needed to redirect dividends at all and the only reason he wanted to do that was to sabotage the Dodges. He was a real rat bastard. Mopar or no car. Verif. not req.

Ford knew of the Epstein clan's real behavior and that makes him one of the GOATS. End of story.

>>28856484
ford would have been jeff's best customer

>>28856482
This doesn't work when I provide the chapter and verse for anyone to look up, IDF.

>>28856479
nice straw man lol. shares are more or less you paying people to run a (portion of) business on your behalf. you may not know how to run one or how to make a part or product, but you know a bunch of people that do, so you pay them to do it for you and you get a little slice of the pie.

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Dodge defends your freedoms.

>>28856488
What you mean, Ford besmircher?

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>>28856391
>ignores ford halved the workday for triple the pay
>ignores ford wanted to invest into workers and lowering prices
>b-b-but henry said I couldn't be an alcoholic womanizer
>thinks the dodge kikes are the "good guys"
Retard, plz.
>>28856441
>Not every place was 7 day work weeks, you had total agency if you were smart.
That's like saying you don't HAVE to work 40 hours nowadays. No shit you don't have to do the industry standard, but to claim Ford didn't make working conditions better and expand the middle class is pants on head retarded. Ford had thousands of people waiting outside everyday to be hired for a reason.

>>28856346
And now they're busy ruining the auto industry under the name Stellantis. Fuck them. Their only half decent car the Viper wasn't even a Chrysler idea, it was Lamborghini and Shelby.

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>>28856551
>>thinks the dodge kikes are the "good guys"
the Dodges were Protestant day drinking bros who enjoyed a good bar fight and Henry was literally afraid they would beat his scrawny ass to a pulp if he crossed them.

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look at this fucking faggot with his weak chin and feminine complexion no wonder he hated the Dodges, they literally mogged him

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>>28856346
This may sound crazy but its true.

I inherited an original 1800s house rug that was the entrance rug for the Dodge Family Estate. I used it as a computer chair mat because I didn't want to scratch the hardwood floor of the old lumber baron mansion I was living in at the time, in Eau Claire Wisconsin.

I spilled so many loads on that rug that I had to use a carpet cleaner once a week. Eventually the rug was out for sale when I moved out of Wisconsin and didnt want to bring a bunch of shit with me. An assistant museum curator happened upon the rug and now its on display at Meadow Brook Hall.

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>>28856492
>and you get a little slice of the pie.
Except it's never just a little slice of the pie. Instead, all publicly traded companies bend over backwards and make retarded choices just to eek out two more cents per share for the (((investors))). The cumulative weight of short sighted bullshit decisions eventually causes the business to stagnate because long term planning and investment can't ever take place. When all of the value has been wrung out of the business some VC vulture comes along and buys out the corpse of the business, fires everyone and sells off the parts for profits that benefit no one other than a handful of paper pushing asshats who never had a hand in building or maintaining the business to begin with.

the fact of the matter is the Dodges weren't just shareholders, they ran the company that provided the industrial equipment that Ford needed to build cars in the first place. There would be no Model T without Dodge. Ford quite literally owed them money, refused to pay, and also tried to sabotage their company by redirecting dividends out of pure butthurt.

>>28856617
Then all of that should have been settled by contract law, awarding Dodge damages - not a pronouncement for big business to be warped into a life sucking hell for everyone except the folks who have extra money to park.

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oy vey

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>>28856626
>first used over a decade after the Dodges had died and their wives sold the company to (((them)))

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>>28856623
>Then all of that should have been settled by contract law, awarding Dodge damages
that is literally what happened retard

>not a pronouncement for big business to be warped into a life sucking hell for everyone except the folks who have extra money to park.
do you understand what a "legal precedent" is? henry ford was already afoul of federal law, that's why he was sued.

>>28856631
>go check for myself
>a literal lie, again
ffs
very low iq

>>28856528
>You Just By A Driving Got Passed Soldier A Hemi!!!
What did he mean by this?

>>28856652
Many such cases.

>>28856489
That's because it was ragebait.

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>>28856652
dodges both died in 1912
that logo was not used until the mid '20s when thier widows sold the company to its investors. they neither approved it or ever saw it. it was also quickly dropped 5 years later when Walter P. Chrysler bought the company in 1928.

>>28856667
why keep lying if anyone can just go check?
a trolling by stupidity is so tiring

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>>28856652
>>28856661
typical jewish pilpul
>i looked it up and that didn't happen!!!
>doesn't provide source he "looked up"

>>28856667
Ya mouf is frothing with blind hate, that logo wasn't adopted in the """mid 20s"""
It was in 1914.

>>28856673
Typical kraut sucker, don't you have a Walther to suck on in a bunker?

Even if you were presented sources you'd do the retard play of writing off whatever shown as a Jewish lie/mossad source/Yada Yada Yada.

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>>28856673
>>typical jewish pilpul
>>i looked it up and that didn't happen!!!
>>doesn't provide source he "looked up"
typical drooling imbecile
>knows and uses more jewish words than a rabbi
>can't use google

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>>28856673
>>28856667
typical drooling imbecile pt. 2
it's like so easy to check, you're literally on the internet RIGHT NOW, but google is a sacred knowledge for retards

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>made the kikes itt prove the Dodges in fact weren't Jewish

damn im good

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>>28856687
every time

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>intentionally posting wrong information and forcing a disingenuous shitposter to prove himself wrong in order to prove me wrong

you guys never learn do you

>>28856454
There were no Roman legions in Judea at the time, only the auxilia who were made up of local men.
Local men. In Judea.

>>28856757
wonder how they dealt with the judean people's front

>arguing over which sect of industrialist corporate pigfats that only care about profits were the more admirable industrialist corporate pigfats that only care about profits
This thread is so retarded

>>28856384
Moparfags are all kikes, anon

>>28856346
>your boss is always stressing you out because this quarter's numbers need to be better than last
>you can't get a raise, but shareholders are getting an increased dividend again
>every decision your boss makes is short sighted and retarded
>your spouse was fired because reducing headcount is a quick easy way to improve profits
>every product you love is either getting turned into a subscription or turning into the cheapest chinese plastic you can find
are you going to vote for worker's rights?
>NOOOOO THAT'S COMMUNISM NOOOO!!!!!
okay, then you deserve everything you get.

Imagine siding with Stellantis in 2026

>>28856360
>Thanks ford for robbing 5 of the 7 days I get to exist.
there are 168 hours in a week. 40/168 is 23%. so by entering into a voluntary agreement in which you provide value to your employer in exchange for less than 1/4 of your time, you are given the ability to do whatever you want with the other 3/4. you are also enriched by the working experience in which you are able to develop friendships, meet your future wife, learn valuable skills, and build your character during the 23% of the time you voluntarily spend at your job.

>trying to make it seem like politicians or people voted for this when in actuality if Henry Ford had just paid the Dodges what he owed instead of being a faggot he would not have been sued and the legal precedent would not be established

absolute kikery

>>28857040
the 40 hour work week was based on the idea that you already had a wife to help take care of chores at home while you wageslaved.

car dependency extends the working day to well beyond 8 hours. 8 hours of wageslavery, 30 minutes unpaid lunch, 60 minutes daily average commute, 60 minutes of wageslaving preparation. that's 10.5 hours total. let's assume you sleep 8 hours a day, you get 112 conscious hours per week of which 52.5 are spent wageslaving or performing wageslaving adjacent tasks. that is 47% of your waking life from ages 18 to 68.

>>28857073
you're either a child or a communist, either way you're an idiot.

>>28856346
I key every Dodge I see if I can get away with it

>>28856883
this board is flush with brandwhores, what do you expect?

>>28857073
I wish we could go back to le lockdowns just because WFH was the greatest thing ever.
>wake up 2 minutes before clock in
>comfortable clothing all day
>clock out the second the workday ends
>not spend an hour+ on traffic
>not see, hear or smell shitty NPC colleagues
>save on gas
>laugh at people wearing masks IN THEIR OWN HOME

>>28857079
seems like a good way to get shot by a nigger

>>28857084
keywords: if I can get away with it

>>28857075
no actually i'm a 36 year old man who works from home and probably makes more money than you.

>>28857073
>30 minutes unpaid lunch

If your lunch isn't 1 hour then you really are working a wagie job.

>>28857087
you probably don't, judging by your overuse of the phrase 'wageslaving' and disdain for the concept of work in general.

>>28857096
how do you want me to prove my job and income without leaking any personally identifying information?

>>28857097
post receipts of you flying business class or above.

>>28857100
why would he need to fly anywhere you monumental fucking retard he's not middle management clearly

>>28857101
i didn't specify flying for work.

>>28856355
Both were massive jews. Dodge brothers were scamming ford to make their own company, and ford was scamming them using the guise of helping workers (which also was to improve his image as he was known at the time as a brutal union buster)

>>28856488
Ford would have told Jeff that he already is taken care of. He would be one of the people trying to say "YOU KNOW WHO ISN'T ON THE LIST?" while hoping no one looks into him

>>28857083
>>laugh at people wearing masks IN THEIR OWN HOME
wait, did people actually do this?

>>28857112
Yes, people did this, they also wore masks when driving by themselves. Wild times

>>28857100
i work from home.
>>28857101
i am a middle management wagie. i work in accounting.

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>>28856379
>blindly trusting AIslop
humanity is receding

>>28856976
this is pretty much the IT world. sysadmins bitch about how the hourd are insane and management dismisses their efforts etc. but talk about unionisation and they act as if you just grew an extra head

>>28857083
i look for job listings that offer hybrid if not full remote. so fucking good being able to cook your own lunch on your break and getting other shit around the house done at the same time. or even wrenching on the car when there's a bit of down time.

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>>28857040
This mouth breather doesn't even realize how much wealth Ford created by raising wages so far above industry standards that it had a ripple effect across the whole economy. He's also pretending he didn't slash work hours on average by offering people to work less time for so much more money.
>Robert Whaples of Wake Forest University (who compiled many of the numbers used here) explores some of the unique circumstances of 1910-1940 in his analysis of Hours of Work in U.S. History. He noted that there was an unprecedented 18% increase in wages between 1914 and 1919 alone, and that many workers used this increase to "buy" some free time back.
What happened in January of 1914 again? The institution of the $5 a day wage? Ford>Dodge and its not even close.

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>>28858054
how about the beginning of world war 1 you absolute fucking retard

>>28857663
Too bad those started dying when covid madness ended, and the few that remain you'd have to kill the current job holder and a thousand applicants to get it

>>28856355
>remider: henry ford wanted and excuse to not pay back money he owed the dodge brothers
Anon, if Ford winning that case would result in us not having this gay "share price go up at all costs" corporate meta that we have now, I wouldn't care if he skinned them both alive and took a shit on the corpses in that very courtroom.

>>28857106
>unions are an inherent good
Ford's employees were in the top 10% of earners in Detroit, teamsters were fifth columnists who were trying to make things worse

>>28858447
there is no law requiring "line go up", retard. you need to stop getting your understanding of corporate law from infographics on /pol/.
Ford was sued in a CIVIL court for defrauding his investors. no different than if I lent you some money on the agreement you'll pay me back, only for you to instead blow it on hookers and coke and laugh in my face when I ask for my money back. no sane person or court in the world would side with you over me.

>>28858447
>>28858860
also to clarify this the legal precedent that a CFO/CEO cannot say "fuck the board" and do whatever he wants with the company's earnings also protects workers against higher ups embezzling funds and cutting pay. it protects all the people involved in a business against the whims of a single manager noatyer how much power he weilds.
it establishes a chain of command between the shareholders and the leader of a company, it does not disenfranchise workers. In fact it gives them more rights because workers can also be shareholders and have a say in the company's business operations without fear of retaliation.

what Henry Ford did was already very illegal and scummy, Ford V. Dodge Brothers just covered the bases by reinforcing the fact that even if your intentions are good and you plan to increase profits, you still can't defraud your investors by redirecting money you physically owe them by contract.

>>28858860
>>28858886
Go be insufferably Jewish somewhere else, "line go up or else" is an absolute corporate fact, and pretending otherwise is fantasy

>>28858893
explain Disney and Xbox crashing and burning

>>28858899
Easy. Disney tried to maximize profits by squeezing their customers like lemons and providing less than the bare minimum in compensation to make the line go up, only the line didn't go up, so they're in the "or else" phase. Xbox isn't a company, Microsoft is, and they're like Disney except with the employees instead of the customers.

>>28858924
how is making utter dogshit nobody likes but strokes the egoes of the narcissistic retards in charge "squeezing cash out of normalfags"?

and Xbox operates independently of Microsoft.

>>28858408
Delete this.

>>28858893
yes that's how business works dumbass
if line doesn't go up you are not making money and your business is unsustainable. Line must go up faster than your moneys value drops from inflation. that's not kikery that is literally how capitalism operates.
A business is not a charity, the first thing you learn in the auto tech trade is "NEVER DO WORK FOR FREE". If you're not getting paid, you leave and go somewhere you do.
Same is true for big business, it doesn't matter if you want to donate your dividends to starving children in Africa or build a monument to yourself, it's immoral and stupid to take money specifically earmarked for the people financially invested in you and spend it on whatever bullshit you want to do. When those people don't get the money that was promised them they will leave and go elsewhere and now you have no investors and no money so you can't make your product. Then the real jews, the creditors, come to take your factory away because you can't pay them either, as you spent all that money on Billy-Bob and Jimbo the Good Ol Boys what work in the riveting department. Oh and once the creditors take what's left of your business those guys who you went out of your way and redirected dividends for are now out of a job too.

>>28859061
There's a difference between "I paid my workers fairly and still have money left to put back into the business and live comfortably" and "I reinstated chattel slavery and am purchasing a 3rd superyacht with my fuckhuge profits by screwing everyone else"

>>28859234
Shares in a company are a contract between you and that company, and the owner of that company cannot suddenly decide either way that you are not going to get the money you signed the contract for.
If Henry Ford had won that would have established it was perfectly legal to do exactly that: reinstate chattel slavery and buy a superyacht with the money that you had promised to your investors. That would make it perfectly legal for say, Elon Musk to rugpull his own companies' stock, run back to South Africa to buy out the government and kill all the niggers. Would a large amount of people consider this to be a good and productive thing? Probably, SA is a shithole. but that doesn't change the fact that he, and the people who invested in his companies signed a contract (the stock) which says they get a certain percentage of their investment back. If you sign a contract you are morally and legally obligated to fulfil it, regardless if your alternative use case for the funds is more profitable or not.

so technically no, there is no difference between those two concepts. If you violate a contract to save a kitten from a tree you are still violating a contract. most people would consider this worthwhile because kittens are great, but when you have 14,000 kittens who need saving from trees and you have to violate every contract you have ever signed to do it, then you got problems. and thats what Henry Ford did.

also also in 1914 Ford stock was owned by roughly 8 people, and it was a private company meaning basically only people who personally knew Henry Ford or worked for him had stock in FoMoCo, so invariably not a single one was a Jew. The Dodges owned a mere 10% of the company which entitled them to 3.8 million dollars in dividends, and Ford himself owned 52%, entitling him to TEN MILLION in dividends from his own company. that's 10 million in 1914 dollars, equivalent to 314 million today. He wasn't some poor destitute man desperately trying to make it he was a keen business magnate who was sitting on more money than even he knew what to do with.
The people in his factories earning $5 an hour couldn't even conceive of the amount of money their employer had.

>>28857100
>>28857104
why would a car enthusiast fly anywhere?

>>28859319
kek my boss knows i like driving sobwhen we have to do branch visits he'll give all the ones that can be driven to rather than flying to me since everyone else hates driving. it's fun taking the scenic route back

>>28859248
executive leadership has no legal responsibility to maximize profits. it's a widely accepted doctrine, but it's not the law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedman_doctrine

>>28859319
is this a trick question or are you retarded

>>28856346
Unlike you OP i am part of a union
>your boss is always stressing you out because this quarter's numbers need to be better than last
I am paid by the hour not by production numbers
>you can't get a raise, but shareholders are getting an increased dividend again
My wages increase at 4.5% per year
>every decision your boss makes is short sighted and retarded
My boss consults everyone on site about changes and if there are disagreements everyone discusses it
>your spouse was fired because reducing headcount is a quick easy way to improve profits
My wife doesn't work
>every product you love is either getting turned into a subscription or turning into the cheapest chinese plastic you can find
i don't subscribe to bullshit
stay mad virgin

>>28859544
no, really
do you think some wfh 4chan car enthusiast with an above average income is jet setting around the world?