0 care for security, which is based as one should be ready to die at any moment when they've got so much money anyway

Because you were 5-15 during that time and they're your point of reference.

>>28860165
Saleen S7 was amazing. built to go racing instead of just being collected. No one talked about it. Top Gear never acknowledged its existence. hell, Top Gear gave more attention to the hennessy Venom GT which was a modified lotus than they gave to the S7. imagine a Top Gear episode where they compared the S7 to the Enzo, Zonda, and the Veyron.

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>>28860165
Clay sculpting > computer generated

This isn't limited to just super cars, as a whole cars that were designed with clay by passionate human hands investing countless hours into every pain staking detail and contour and curve while making everything flow together in unison were far more beautiful and soulful than their computer generated counterparts.

Modern car design isolates every piece of the car and makes each component "interesting" to look at individually however once zoomed out and observed as a whole it looks uncanny. Like a hivemind of designers insisting their work is "perfect" or "flawless" rather than a small team or lone designer working with the imperfections to make a more natrual and fluid (or coherent) design.

The nerds became cerebral narcissists and hijacked the artists domain. Sterilizing creativity for the sake of safety, gimmicks, and post modern computer made hyper styling.

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>>28860165
because you have nostalgia for example I have nostalgia for nascar so I like pic rel it's like a civic but 10 times more based so this is what I like

>>28860225
Yeah I loved all the v6 fwd nascars too

>>28860165
None of those cars were considered great looking with the exception of the Zonda in the 2000s

I still remember the automotive forums consensus

The Murci was just a blanded out Diablo

The S7 was considered a generic blend of every supercar but trying too hard

And everyone flat out hated the Enzo


Funny how times change

leave the bubbleshit in the past where it belongs

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Growing share of 'ethnic' buyers.

Have you ever wondered why things designed for 15yo gamers are so obnoxious?
It's because their prefrontal cortex in not fully developed yet so not only they're driven to loud, flashy designs but are also unable to differentiate between the product marketing and actual social perception, so it's easy to convince them that they will receive a lot of positive attention thamks to their cool gaming setup

Now look how tacky this piece of shit it.
You could slap a Razer logo on it and it would fit perfectly and I'm sure that people without fully developed prefrontal cortex absolutely love it.

>>28860272
>The S7 was considered a generic blend of every supercar but trying too hard
You just pulled that straight out of your ass. that's too vague to even mean anything.

>>28860165
F50 > Enzo

>>28860460
Nobody likes the F50.

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>>28860165
I hate the Enzo. Kids at school used to fawn over it like it was the second coming of Christ, but it just looks goofy as fuck. Stupid Pygmy Shrew-ass lookin' car.

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>>28860284
>Now look how tacky this piece of shit it.
Ferrari always gets a pass, always. Remember that.

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>>28860489
Silvers and greys really accentuate the Enzo's industrial gundam jet fighter aesthetics. But yeah, in the cheap looking default red and without the Ferrari badges people would think it's just a Czechoslovakian kit car

>>28860489
I always thought the shape of the arches never fit the shape of an actual wheel, and the wheels that were fit to it were such a strange size with rims too large and tyres to thin that made every enzo look stolen

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>>28860464
>gated manual
>sex on wheels
>b-b-but other people don't like it
You can form your own opinions, right?

>>28860165
For me, it's the Saleen S7.

>>28860206
>Clay sculpting > computer generated
/thread

>>28860272
Everyone liked the Murcielago, and every car made by Lamborghini since then has been an embellishment on the Murcielago.

People liked the Enzo.

Straight people liked the S7.

>>28860165
ok boomer

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>>28860583
>looks worse than F40 and Enzo
>zero progress in performance compared to F40 despite more power
And here comes the FEELING which I can't have a honest opinion on cause I've never driven it
>Clarkson loves F40 and Enzo but he said F50 feels like the engine was bolted to your spine
>a supercar collection owner (The Gentleman's Garage) said F50 is good but not as wild as F40

>>28860730
the F50 GT was faster than the prototype with the same engine. the F40's most hardcore variant never came close to that kind of performance. you're delusional if you think a boosted to shit V8 full of turbo lag comes close to the all naturally aspirated power that the F50's V12 can make.

>>28860733
>starts arguing about two completely different cars
OK but what's that got to do with anything?

>>28860733
The turbo lag is the most legendary thing about F40. Same as driving like shit is the most legendary thing about Countach.

>>28860736
>completely different car
>F50 GT is literally just a more raw F50
???

>>28860225
White trash/10

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>28860272
>28860460
>28860489
>28860571
>28860576
>28860730
The MC12 is the better looking enzo

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>SSC ultimate aero

I am forgotten.

>>28860730
>those specs
Lol, torquelets never learn

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Oh my, what's going on in this thread?

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>>28860165
Nothing in particular.

The Enzo is ugly. It is the Ferrari version of HHR or PT cruiser.

>>28860750
Now this I agree with. The MC12 has always been far, FAR prettier in my eyes.

>>28860642
oh really? the opposite of reality was actually the case?


what car forums were you posting on in the 2000s?

>>28860730
if i ever bought one of these i'd have to swap a small block chevy into it just to make it drivable.

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>create a beautiful, optimally engineered, excellently balanced hand-built carbon supercar
>it costs twice as much as everything else in the performance bracket
>still manage to lose money on each one sold

>>28860730
That's because those old supercars got their power from massive turbos that took them from no power to hold onto the fucking steering wheel because it's going to rip out of your hands power in the middle of the rpm range. They were un-driveable.

>>28860750
this
faster too but ferarri wont admit it

>>28860272
>And everyone flat out hated the Enzo
Never understood this. The car is gorgeous. I wouldn't get one though because of the paddle shifter.

>>28861086
Much faster over a lap due to the stability and downforce of the bigger, more aero friendly body and wing.
Also the cause of much seething in GT racing. IMHO not an issue, but I love the argument about whether the MC12 GT1 was legal or not.

>>28861117
Pretty clear cut and dry that the FIA let them cheat. Imagine if IMSA let GM make a special long tail corvette to race while not letting anyone else do the same.

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>>28861130
Exactly what I mean lol

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>>28861105
>Never understood this

I'm guessing most posters here are underaged and don't have memory of being thrust into new edge/slab styling in the early 2000s from the relatively evolutionarily bubbly aesthetic of the 90s

Combined with newer safety regs the cars just appeared blander and fatter versions of the pervious generations.

Ferrari fags were especially sensitive to change and the Enzo was the most controversial design in the early 2000s next to maybe the bmw E65

The front overhang was also off putting


I do think the Enzo has aged extremely well but almost no one thought that when it just arrived.

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>>28861155
They got cucked by the C6.R regardless lol

>>28861007
>charge more money than others
>profit
Sorry but the market doesn't work like this

>>28860165
Designed less by computer and not cucked by regulatins.

>>28860284
How come the people you hate are so well off?

>>28860171
I fondly remember the S7 because some pornstar from the mid-00s had one.

>>28860165
They don't. Mid engine cars look like shit, they should not exist outside of open wheel racing.

>>28860167
meme talking point, all the supercars since the Veyron have been a lot less exciting and I'm 54

>>28860755
the front doesnt look very good I like its ass though