>>28861264
yee and gm stands for "gay morons"

>>28861272
>muh gay

>>28861264
I'm guessing that the Honda style tech cost more and would have been more labor intensive so GM took the cheaper easier route sacrificing performance.
Now they have plenty of performance, just an extreme sacrifice of quality.

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The sooner this shit company suffers final death, the better.

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>>28861264
>play that automation game a long time ago
>70s scenario
>actually make an engine that meets the regs without a cat
>feel smug
>get nuked by the next set of regs that force me into a cat
>that I did not research
>63 horsepower with a 2-way cat choking a little 4-cylinder when everyone else's on a big engine with a 3-way cat
fug

>>28861272
Calling gays morons is redundant

>>28861264
You think they can just stop production of existing powerplants, scrap the molds, start from a clean slate and use new tec? There's no "Easy" button.

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>>28861264
>>GM tells the japs to fuck off
fuck off lmao, overhead cam v8s are for europeans who have an automatic gate with their initials on them, would've alienated the market segment of people who actually liked gm products at that time.

>>28861477
What IS wrong with OHC V8's? I know that pushrods are classic, but the oscillating weight messes with my autisms

>>28861278
>when you get BTFO
who, poorsche by the ZR1X? I guess

>>28861264
CVCC was obsoleted in a decade while catalytic converters rule modern engines. Honda makes zero V8s in production cars to even compare to while GM today makes V8s that rival hypercars. Europoors are eternally stuck in 1974 as that is the only time period they can claim any sort of ‘win’ over the Americans that were shocked by the oil crises.

>>28861523
>Honda makes zero V8s

Maybe so, but they still built a Small Block Impala with CVCC that worked. Had GM used it, they could have kept some power in place.

>Europoors are eternally stuck in 1974 as that is the only time period they can clam a win

No, they had a win from 1974 through 2009. American companies didn't pull their heads out of their ass until post-bankruptcy. Nobody wants a 1998 Bonneville. They want a German car.

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> 5.7L V8
>165hp

>>28861299
I'd argue it emphasizes the point.

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>>28861264
>CVCC
I believe is was to expensive to be viable and not really a real world solution.
Just because you can do something in a lab, doesn't mean it would work for millions of cars

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>>28861523
The same tech is still used.
Not obsolete.

Lmao fuck them japs

>>28861586
I mean it worked for thousands of Hondas which were cheaper cars, and made by smaller factories with less money at their disposal

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>>28861596
>blugblugblugblug
>Image still making 50s diesel tech in the year of our Lord 2026

This post was made by direct injection gang, the superior space age technology.

>>28861264
Let's not forget that the Big 3 were playing political games to varying degrees in an attempt to get the regulations changed or removed so they wanted their product to be shitty in order to generate a backlash. Might've worked in a closed market.

Then you have the fact that it was GM, who's only known MO is to cost cut everything so they were never going to spend money to change a thing. Kinda makes you wonder what Honda was really up to since they had to know GM and its reputation of being a supremely arrogant cheapskate company.

>>28861264
Yes.

General Motors had an unbelievable amount of hubris before 2008.

t. 33yo moomer

>>28862855
Ah yeah let's use more expensive tech that demands more parts, more precise controls, tighter tolerances, astronomical fuel pressure, and super particular fuel for... 10% more efficiency and placating the emissions jews.

not fukin worth it, OM606 with dieselmeken pump is peak passenger car engineering.

>>28863381
>General Motors had an unbelievable amount of hubris
>had
It always did.
t. 34 year old moomer

>>28863381
It wasn't hubris, GM was humbled. The GM engineers looked at it and realized there was no one their incompetent asses could make it work in their cars.

>>28861584
How can I buy one of these

>>28861264
God, it feels good to have a 1973 uncucked stingray.

>>28863510
cadillac engineers took apart an ls400 when it first came out and said they couldn't build that car "using existing GM methods"
i like to think the engineers were making a jab at their management because they'd know first-hand how fantastically retarded they can be.

>>28861512
>oscillating weight messes with my autisms
you are fucking dumb as fuck and too poor to afford a machine balanced pushrod v8 to be posting your opinions on oscilating weight you stupid fuck

>>28861264
It's even funnier when you realize domestics already created and sold fuel injection systems and then acted bewildered by the idea of refined fuel control less than 10 years later

>>28861264
If CVCC is so good why did Honda never use it in an engine with more than 100hp and not since the 80s?

>>28864838
clean air act made it harder to keep using it. final nail in the coffin was 3 way cats getting good enough to supersede cvcc